Orunmila and Socrates: What do they have in common? - 'Oro Isiti' with Prof. Sophie Oluwole #5

Prof. Sophie Oluwole is a renowned retired Professor of African Philosophy. She is a cerebral scholar who takes great pride in her Africaness. Her passion for Yoruba philosophy has opened a new frontier in the world of philosophy.
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[@beproudofyourown7571]

A year later am back here. My people (the Yorubas) are so blessed.Oluwa Modupe that am privileged to be one.

[@stumainimk]

i would like to request: The words spoken by Professor Oluwole in Yoruba be translated and made available as text across the screen. This will expand the learning opportunity for non Yoruba speakers. Thank you. I am grateful for all that is currently available. Ase!

[@beeojeiks6516]

I will read it. These are books that I want to be able to purchase online or when I visit Nigeria.

[@AngelGonzalez-ku5kd]

Or learn Yoruba

[@biarritzzz-tq6bp]

this is precious. hope it never gets taken out from the internet. blessings from Brazil

[@olivercage4398]

Who watched this during lockdown coronavirus 2020

[@dadataiwo2173]

How I love this Mama! I’m glad Baba Tunde Kelani recorded her before death! I’m glad I can speak Yoruba fluently

[@alicecarter3792]

Hello Dada taiwo, I am interested in understanding what Mama was saying, could you please translate it and send it to [e-mail]. Thank you

[@alicecarter3792]

I will be happy to pay for a copy, if necessary.

[@jonralph8843]

@@alicecarter3792 did you get a response?

[@johnad101]

She makes a strong point. How can an entire generation call something fetish or evil when we don't even understand the language it has been recorded in properly. Every Christian would call our tradition evil and dangerous but accepts Pythagoras theorem. This was a man who created a religion based on eating beans. Imagine if because of this I said he is a madman I will not read his work. I have deprived myself and mankind of the opportunity of understanding this concept that could change humanity as a whole in ways we may have never known. The knowledge to be gained may seem so simple or small but remember complex things are simply a combination of simple things some of which could neutralize an entire system or order of events if they didn't exist. There could be knowledge in their that can save lives and if because of our personal beliefs we ingnore and shun it, are we not responsible for the lives that could be lost as a result?

[@tiye4771]

So well said 👌🏾

[@famousemmanuel5531]

I’m a Christian, I don’t have any problem with yoruba philosophy, in fact I study it. But I will never go near yoruba spirituality or way of worship, cause that’s something else entirely.

[@osariemenefosa4569]

Oromila is thousands and millions of years before do called Socrates. Africa gave Greeks civilization.

[@beproudofyourown7571]

Imagine! This was uploaded in February! And I'm watching I'm December! I'm so mad at myself! Where have I been??? Oh where have I been? Oh thank God I ran into this! Thank you God! Knowledge indeed has no limit! Thank God.

[@kutioluwagbenga5519]

Be Proud of your own this comment of yours I could sense your feel wish the young producers of our future armies would crave the knowledge of our ancestors

Dont be feel sad,jajaaa@d most important is dt you value n recognise your root@Be proud of your own

[@olivercage4398]

I'm just watching now

[@beeojeiks6516]

Am just seeing in 2021😃

[@jonralph8843]

@@beeojeiks6516 me too😢😢😢

[@biarritzzz-tq6bp]

this is so brilliantly important. respect from Brazil!

[@bujuaji]

The Egyptians learnt philosophy from the Yorubas/Hebrews in ancient Egypt and the Greeks learnt from the Egyptians.

[@lightgodmantv2432]

I love her logic! I hope to find a copy of the book soon.

[@osariemenefosa4569]

Great mama in black mythological history.👌👌👏👏

[@Omoagbametala10]

Modupe Mama Iya Abiyamo mi , e seun o. Orunmila is the wisdom of Olodumare. All true Orisa energies are the cultures of primal womb. This is why we have Odu Ifa (the wisdom of the cosmic and material womb). And reason why the primal deity is a woman (Abiyamo Aye Abiyamo Orun). All these greek/roman/latin philosophers learnt in Ancient Africa and most of what they could assimilate were condensed in that form, tainted and repackaged for the whole world. Yes philosophy (Filosofi) is love of wisdom as philo is "love" and sophy/sophi/sofia is wisdom. Sophia is a woman's name. Philosophy is love of the woman/love for the woman. The woman is the womb. Philosophy is love for wisdom of the womb. The cosmic and material wisdom of the womb is Odu Ifa. Odu Ifa/Orunmila are cosmic "families" in the WOMB. There is no deity like Mother, there is no deity higher than the Mother. Orisa bi Iya kosi. Modupe O. Ase

[@beproudofyourown7571]

Omoagbametala Oh! I just busted into cry reading this! How beautiful! How impressive! Thank you for sharing this. Thank you Thank you. I'll really appreciate it if you can reach out to me, pls Sir, mail me, [e-mail]. God bless you Sir.

[@Omoagbametala10]

Thank you for your kind words sir/ma. Will be reaching out to you via your email. Ese o

[@beproudofyourown7571]

Omoagbametala Oh how kind Sir, thank you. And you are very welcome.

[@Omoagbametala10]

I have got back to you on your email provided

[@stephenayodeji4383]

Her critique is so apt IMHO

[@saarfrancken6172]

It would be great if this video had subtitles, I would love to understand it!

[@femorotti]

I can help

[@bathshebachipulujere1366]

Some things are not meant to be understood

[@ahmedakande6283]

You are right... that’s a good suggestion... guess the editor will work on it

[@JerseyArewe-gc9yq]

Nice analysis this woman has knowledge

[@babatundeoluwatosinmichael9167]

Never gets old

[@stephenifedayo3941]

Thanks Ma.

[@shesanmichaeliwaloye5249]

what a wisdom.. otito oro.

[@nicholasnestabal8372]

Absolute genius ❤

[@yinka661]

She was, is a class act. I love this woman.

[@Nov_18_25]

I love this queen mother among women!

[@osineyepatrick]

Thanks prof

[@altevisuals7917]

2019!!!! Y'all can get the book at Jazzhole, ikoyi.

[@seyelag]

Rest in peace mama Sophie the great,

[@jonralph8843]

She died?!!!!

[@eedreezdolapo914]

nice one mama

[@Whatsyournarrative]

I would love to buy her book, but I can only find the Dutch translation. What a great icon!

[@mamaafrica9627]

Ase edumare...!

[@titopiano7661]

God bless your memory Mama

[@pejuodunlami238]

Indepth knowledge. Ørunmila baba Agbøniregun

[@MrDre6000]

Great video, but can you provide an English translation of the parts spoken in Yoruba? Thanks

[@omisakindotun]

Big ups tunde kilani rest in peace mama Sophie

[@angelsofmercyhomes9312]

This is very informative. Where can we buy your books?

[@raph-raphael6568]

I don't really get myself I've been seen this video since but with my ignorance I ignored it ,but thank God I watch it today, please we're can I get this "book'.

[@kentnike85]

Mama, may you live long so that we may continue to share in your knowledge. Thank you!!

[@FyahGoddess]

ase I love you

[@xabitu3732]

Hello, please how can i order for the book( socrates and orunmila)? i could not find it on amazon.thanks .

[@olufemifawehinmi5609]

Mama, where can one get a copy of your book? Would the University of Ibadan' book store or Odusote in Ibadan be a good place to check? I would love to learn more about your findings. I have always found how laws like the Newton's 3rd law of motion "to every action, there is equal and opposite reaction" and how yoruba sayings like "oko ta ba so mo ope lope n so mo ni" (i.e. throw a stone and a palm tree and you will get it thrown back at you) intriguing. Anyone with information on how to get this book should please post something.

[@PalenqueRecords]

real wisdom

[@babaolowo35]

THANK

[@ADE-of-LAGOS]

Great video. There was Orunmila, the Irunmole (divine being for wisdom) who was a witness to Olodumare's creation of all beings and humans. And there was also the Orunmila, the human, who lived among the Yorubas. That's why Orunmila is both an Irunmole and Orisa. In fact, I heard one Ifa priest say, different Orunmila came to live among the Yorubas at different times. I will like to get the opinion of other Ifa priest on this.

[@toyindipo]

Orunmila had parents, I guess also Obatala, who was the 'Orunmila' to Orumila, when Orunmila was coming to the world. Egg and chicken.

[@JuanPerez-ui9sn]

yes

[@hzollneruk]

mama,you are wonderful. Please where may we buy this book?

[@Toxxaluvier]

+Henry Zollner That is the real question.

[@Itsrichayo]

Ese mama wa. Adupe baba. Ogbon ati imo wan koni d'ibaje. Can I find the book online?

[@ephremkoudahoua9472]

I need that book, where to find it?

[@SamuelAkinbo]

I read the book, in fact I gave one to UBC library

[@chrismimshack2060]

Where do I get one to buy?

[@phillipsturrup7009]

I would love to read her books but its IMPOSSIBLE TO FIND A COPY!! Even e-books arent available. Not even a ebook!!

[@Infinitybein]

IYA!

[@joeb.1163]

Please where can I get a copy?

[@uodavid]

How can i get a copy ? And how much?

[@olivercage4398]

Sir, can I post your video on my Facebook page.

[@isholatoheeboladipupo8471]

Orumila Baba wà ❤

[@cleverubiagegeCvland]

#Tunde Kelani: Please try to add English subtitle. It will be nice to understand everything. If the book is totally in english, where can we order it? Cheers :)

[@Fan_de_pompompurin]

I understood everything

[@sjappiyah4071]

Chavon Boyd the whole video was not in English.....

[@phillipsturrup7009]

the book is impossible to find. even ebooks arent available. i have to wonder what type of malpractice by her university estate kids publisher etc. that its impossible to get her book in any form

[@jonralph8843]

@@phillipsturrup7009 you may have to dig deeper and harder. TRUTH is not taught to the masses. The amount of effort you put into possessing this knowledge will show your readiness to the Universe to learn the mysteries contained therein.

[@jimzywest0014]

Hello .. please where can I get this book from .. written by her Socrates and orunmila please some should please answer me

[@sundayoluwakayode6420]

What is title of book wrote by mama, where can i get one sir.

[@user-uc1qf5qi3i]

make a close caption for this

[@olumigthyoyewole5795]

How can I get professor Sophie oluwole books?

[@topeigbekele7238]

Please how can I get this book?

[@kemigbeleko9460]

Our ancestral, goddesses is the true way...thy twisted our story for us n turn it into religious; Christian and Muslim.

[@samuelolawole102]

How do I get the book

[@Aiproductions713]

Iya gbogbo wa! ajuba ooo. E sunre ooo

[@wordifywithomatthew]

Wow! What's the name of the book and how do I get it please. I thoroughly enjoyed this. How I wish we would include this kind of teaching in our primary school curriculum. This is our heritage.

[@jodaijohnsonfilms3963]

Socrates and Orunmila by Prof. Sophie Oluwole

[@keithnorton8647]

You can just do it.

[@yosefhoward5929]

Ptah is one of our first religions in Africa

[@yayafantastic161]

I hate to miss out on this knowledge bc I don’t speak her language. 😢

[@14inc]

Where can I buy a copy of this book. I'm surprised neither a Google search nor amazon.com search provides avenues to buy a copy of this piece of original thought.

[@sonofapollo6814]

yes where can we buy the book

[@ephremkoudahoua9472]

they don't want us to know the truth that is why we can't find it on either amazon.com or google

[@SamuelAkinbo]

I got two from University of Ibadan Bookshop. I was at Unilag but the bookshop didn't have.

[@urbanhairess]

I would love it if we could get subtitles for those of us who don't speak Yoruba : )

[@tkooo8343]

Hi PetiteFleur..it might be more fulfilling (especially if you're interested in Yoruba spirituality) if you try to learn the language. It's a bit of a complex one, but a lot of things will make so much more sense.

[@efemzyekun900]

@PetiteFleur, sorry to say this, but what the wise woman was saying in Yoruba can never be fully grasped in English, because English Language i far inadequate. I say this, not as a condescending matter, but to emphasis the fact. I speak English, maybe a little better than an average English man, and I speak Yoruba, and I must tell you that both Languages are operating on a different level and realm. Please, find a good Yoruba App on Google Playstore and learn some basic words, maybe you'll understand what i'm trying to say. Thanks.

[@SANGO697]

@@efemzyekun900 i get it. I made it a mission to learn yoruba. If im to live to Nigeria that’s my first start

[@efemzyekun900]

@@SANGO697 wow!, good luck bro.

[@SANGO697]

@@efemzyekun900 sounds bad

[@BakareLawrence]

Yoruba is the source of all human and Ifa is the knowledge encoded with the formation of the entire universe amd beyond. We have been foolishly cheated but why we have remain follolish still is the fact i cannot decipher. Well, i am lost for words because i do not know how else to make oir peple see reason to think outside the cage we have been locked in 😢😢😢

[@jonbanks653]

You have so much knowledge to share but perhaps a translator would help you spread it farther

[@afolagboyeralph9189]

Where can one get this Mama book please

[@sesancoker1060]

I bought the book when I visited olumo rock Abeokuta,

[@user-sw8py5ep6g]

Please send a link of where to buy the book...Thanx

[@afolagboyeralph9189]

How can one get this book?

[@noobhunter2986]

University of Ibadan

[@Tundefitila]

How can i get the book sir

[@sesancoker1060]

Visit Olumo rock Abeokuta

[@Tundefitila]

@@sesancoker1060 thanks a bunch 🙏..kindly subscribe to my channel 🙏

[@tuforu4]

she will creat thousands of JOB IN NIGERIA..

[@petrawieben8060]

i can speak and read, but i know the wood.

[@laolupeters2804]

Orunmila ni "ko si kon ton je gbe"

[@kayodeiledare7966]

Orunmila is from Oke Igeti in Ekiti and NOT Ile Ife

[@shalipse]

Orunmila was a Yoruba prophet

[@petrawieben8060]

urikie. hörts sich alles ähnlich an ulrike das gab nonnen, mit der fahne

[@onishango4935]

que mal que no está traducido o subtitulado al español 😢😢😢😢😭😭💔💔💔👎👎👎👎👎

[@famousemmanuel5531]

But was orunmila actually right? There are some knowledge that a eternally True, e.g God is the creator of the world, and that will never change.

[@ChiefMD4governor]

Orunmila should be compared to Jesus and Mohammed. My opinion. Simply because Jesus Christ came with a method to seek God and same as Prophet Mohammed likewise Orunmila baba Ifa. Socrates came with an idea to live a life while Orunmila, Jesus, Mohammed came to established a way to seek and worship God.

[@yinkagiwa415]

The statement that "there are no absolutes " is itself an absolutist statement . Making it an oxymoron or simply nonsensical statement

[@osirisshabazz7510]

What's one man's oxymoron is another's paradox!

[@yusufdaud8368]

You do not listen well when she said except God

[@jonralph8843]

You are totally wrong. There are truly no absolutes. There is only ONE ABSOLUTE. Every other thing is RELATIVE.

[@RodioXYZ.]

What an unintelligent comment! To you, a statement of fact is an "absolutist statement"?

[@bujuaji]

call me crazy but the prophet/messenger known as Orumila/Ela is the man the world knew as Jesus/Yeshu/Yeshua from Oke/Mount Geti/Gethsemane which is called Galilee by the Romans. The Yorubas/Yaribas are the real jews but they do not know who they are. I know people will curse me which is fine but do your research and go read books by the European explorers like Mungo Park, Captain Forbes, Emanuel Bowditch, Landerer, Snelgrave and others and you will be shocked at what they knew about the Yorubas/Yaribas wherever the encountered them all over West Africa. They are the real children of Aku/Yakub/Jacob and the religion of their ancestors was misunderstood because it involved the Mosaic/Moshere/Moses bloody sacrifices with ancestral homage in the form of idols. They are not idolaters they were only misunderstood by ancient empires like the Romans, Mohemmetans and others. The only empire that understood them were the Greeks and you will find the same pantheon of Gods in their history.

[@olawaleakinkunmi3713]

Thanks u bro

[@oladunjoyeolaideeniola7109]

Pls where can I read these books? Thanks

[@beeojeiks6516]

Awesome! Hmm did she just say Orisha is better than Jesus the son of God? God incarnated?

[@akanudoesu999]

Orisha is better for we Africans, Jesus is better for you since you’re white

[@teejayahmed6517]

Mama is 100 % correct, Socrate is not father of philosophy. The Greeks stole Egypt or Kemet Philosophy i recommend people to read the stolen legacy by Dr George. M. James or download and also in Audio

[@famousemmanuel5531]

Orisha can never be than Jesus Christ. And I get my reasons and evidences

[@tuforu4]

she cannot speak anglish..

[@adeolaibigbemi8612]

English is not a measure of knowledge

[@olubibabalola]

nobody speaks anglish as far as I know

[@jonralph8843]

She's Yoruba in case you missed that.