Socrates & Plato's Philosophy - Myles Burnyeat & Bryan Magee (1987)

In this program, Myles Burnyeat discusses the thought of Socrates and Plato with Bryan Magee. This is the first episode in the 1987 series on the Great Philosophers. The rest in the series can be found here: • The Great Philosophers...
00:00 Introduction
04:07 Socrates’ Death
07:32 The Socratic Method
09:55 Doctrines of Socrates
13:35 The Socratic Question
16:28 Learning as Recollection
21:19 Plato's Theory of Forms
25:32 Literary Value of Middle Dialogues
27:04 The Republic
29:44 Later Dialogues
32:35 The Timaeus
35:45 Relation to the Republic
38:53 Theaetetus & Knowledge
41:31 Plato’s Influence
#philosophy #plato #bryanmagee #socrates

[@Philosophy_Overdose]

I’m about to annoy just about everyone, but I can’t help it. I’m something of a perfectionist, especially when it comes to audio quality. As such, I feel absolutely compelled to reupload these again, this time with superior audio quality. I’ll still leave the previous ones up, but as unlisted, so as to not break any external links to the videos.

[@captainstrangiato961]

Lol I feel that. Looks way better, thanks for all your hard work.

[@pectenmaximus231]

You’re something of a hero, too

[@luanllluan]

The wealth of comments is a miss, but the audios are so better in these news vids :)

[@hinteregions]

How very annoying 🤗

[@Danyel615]

I think this is good, even if only to remind us to rewatch all of them again!

[@lucas-qc2fj]

Thank you so much for uploading this in such quality

[@Doctor.T.46]

I still have The Meno as my favourite. It brings back fond memories.

[@ferriswill4929]

This reupload series is wonderful. The perfectionist in me appreciates it!

[@tryharder75]

I'm off to Athens for three days tomorrow for the first time. This is my prep! God bless Bryan Magee

[@Raiddd__]

How was it?

[@jamesrcowan]

Nice upload. Wicked!

[@TheBigFella]

A great discussion.

[@sigvardbjorkman]

very nice listen, I learned some things

[@fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602]

It is not possible to talk about Socrates without considering his conduct in the face of a condemnation that even by the standards of the time could be called unjust. Instead of rebelling or fleeing, Socrates voluntarily submitted himself to the death penalty. But this submission was paradoxically not a demonstration of weakness but of strength. Socrates renounced neither life (which would eventually end anyway) nor Justice (which when practiced by human beings can always become a simulacrum) but embraced the consequences of his own conduct, because more than anyone he himself was capable of admit that it stung the people with whom he spoke. Plato somehow got two deep stings. One from Socrates himself, because Plato was an arrogant young aristocrat and he was humiliated by Socrates a few times. The other sting Plato took from the city of Athens when Socrates was condemned. This seems to have deeply marked Plato, forcing him both to reflect on politics and public life and to immortalize the teachings of the master whose life was so tragically cut short on the basis of ridiculous accusations.

[@paulheinrichdietrich9518]

First time I see the intro.

[@VenusLover17]

❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@tryharder75]

Magee deserves a postumous knighthood

[@tombouie]

Thks & ??please tell me how do you avoid cheap/scam KZbin ads??

[@albertusmagnus5829]

@11:30 - "Injustice harms the doer..." I doubt Vladimir Putin is a reader of Plato or Socrates ... I also doubt we'll ever see philosophy on mainstream TV again but these archives are wonderful - thank you 🙏

[@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858]

Putin is pretty well the most JUST ruler in the world. You drank the Kool aid. You cannot tell fact from fiction. You have been brainwashed. Meanwhile, in the United States.....

[@jonathacirilo5745]

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[@clovers-zi5fe]

Yeah, I'd take Putin for more a Machiavelli or Nietzsche reader.

[@thatconfoundedbridge]

A Nietzsche reader who Nietzsche warned us about. The ones who misunderstand his philosophy and use it as justification for committing atrocities. Startling the way the man predicted it before his death and then a few decades later we see the Nazi regime misrepresenting, misunderstanding, and appropriating it.

[@cheeto8960]

He is more of a thomas hobbes thinker, leviathan ruler

[@Christianity_and_Perennialism]

Imagine this on television now. People would think they were speaking a foreign language.

[@cbskwkdnslwhanznamdm2849]

I don’t know what those queeeers said but I’m madd

[@sonarbangla8711]

The development of philosophy is better expressed by the history of China, where at least three thinkers, not all contemporary were labeled as anarchists and all three were hounded like Socrates. Discussing social problems were their crime, yet they were like enlighteners like Socrates. There may have been more such original thinkers from other parts of the world.

[@tristanpepper792]

Based

[@jorgemoreno2804]

Playa is the greatest!

[@foresight6901]

The one who could explain philosophy at such level is greater than Plato and Plato would be fine with this exaggeration.

[@donaldist7321]

these people speak such beautiful English and murder every other language, in this case classic Greek.

[@SwitzerlandEducation4471]

50 Of Shakespeare’s Most Famous Quotes 1. ‘To be, or not to be: that is the question’ (Hamlet Act 3, Scene 1) 2. ‘All the world ‘s a stage, and all the men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man in his time plays many parts.’ (As You Like it Act 2, Scene 7) 3. ‘Romeo, Romeo! wherefore art thou Romeo?’ (Romeo and Juliet Act 2, Scene 2) 4. ‘Now is the winter of our discontent’ (Richard III Act 1, Scene 1) 5. ‘Is this a dagger which I see before me, the handle toward my hand?’ (Macbeth Act 2, Scene 1) 6. ‘Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them.’ (Twelfth Night Act 2, Scene 5) 7. ‘Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once.’ (Julius Caesar Act 2, Scene 2) 8. ‘Full fathom five thy father lies, of his bones are coral made. Those are pearls that were his eyes. Nothing of him that doth fade, but doth suffer a sea-change into something rich and strange.’ (The Tempest Act 1, Scene 2) 9. ‘A man can die but once.’ (Henry IV, Part 2 Act 3, Part 2) 10. ‘How sharper than a serpent’s tooth it is to have a thankless child!’ (King Lear Act 1, Scene 4) 11. ‘Frailty, thy name is woman.’ (Hamlet Act 1, Scene 2) 12. ‘If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?’ (The Merchant of Venice Act 3, Scene 1) 13. ‘I am one who loved not wisely but too well.’ (Othello Act 5, Scene 2) 14. ‘The lady doth protest too much, methinks’ (Hamlet Act 3, Scene 2) 15. ‘We are such stuff as dreams are made on, and our little life is rounded with a sleep.’ (The Tempest Act 4, Scene 1) 16. ‘Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then is heard no more; it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.’ (Macbeth Act 5, Scene 5) 17. ‘Beware the Ides of March.‘ (Julius Caesar Act 1, Scene 2) 18. ‘Get thee to a nunnery.’ (Hamlet Act 3, Scene 1) 19. ‘If music be the food of love play on.‘ (Twelfth Night Act 1, Scene 1) 20. ‘What’s in a name? A rose by any name would smell as sweet.’ (Romeo and Juliet Act 2, Scene 2) 21. ‘The better part of valor is discretion’ (Henry IV, Part 1 Act 5, Scene 4) 22. ‘To thine own self be true.‘ (Hamlet Act 1, Scene 3) 23. ‘All that glisters is not gold.’ (The Merchant of Venice Act 2, Scene 7) 24. ‘Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears: I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him.’ (Julius Caesar Act 3, Scene 2) 25. ‘Nothing will come of nothing.’ (King Lear Act 1, Scene 1) 26. ‘The course of true love never did run smooth.’ (A Midsummer Night’s Dream Act 1, Scene 1) 27. ‘Lord, what fools these mortals be!’ (A Midsummer Night’s Dream Act 1, Scene 1) 28. ‘Cry “havoc!” and let slip the dogs of war‘ (Julius Caesar Act 3, Scene 1) 29. ‘There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.’ (Hamlet Act 2, Scene 2) 30. ‘A horse! a horse! my kingdom for a horse!‘ (Richard III Act 5, Scene 4) 31. ‘There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.’ (Hamlet Act 1, Scene 5) 32. ‘Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind; and therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.’ (A Midsummer Night’s Dream Act 1, Scene 1) 33. ‘The fault, dear Brutus, lies not within the stars, but in ourselves, that we are underlings.’ (Julius Caesar Act 1, Scene 2) 34. ‘Shall I compare thee to a summer’s day?’ (Sonnet 18) 35. ‘Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impediments.’ (Sonnet 116) 36. ‘The evil that men do lives after them; The good is oft interrèd with their bones.’ (Julius Caesar Act 3, Scene 2) 37. ‘But, for my own part, it was Greek to me.’ (Julius Caesar Act 1, Scene 2) 38. ‘Neither a borrower nor a lender be; for loan oft loses both itself and friend, and borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry.’ (Hamlet Act 1, Scene 3) 39. ‘We know what we are, but know not what we may be.’ (Hamlet Act 4, Scene 5) 40. ‘Off with his head!’ (Richard III Act 3, Scene 4) 41. ‘Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown.’ (Henry IV, Part 2 Act 3, Scene 1) 42. ‘Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows.’ (The Tempest Act 2, Scene 2) 43. ‘This is very midsummer madness.’ (Twelfth Night Act 3, Scene 4) 44. ‘Some Cupid kills with arrows, some with traps.’ (Much Ado about Nothing Act 3, Scene 1) 45. ‘I cannot tell what the dickens his name is.’ (The Merry Wives of Windsor Act 3, Scene 2) 46. ‘We have seen better days.’ (Timon of Athens Act 4, Scene 2) 47. ‘I am a man more sinned against than sinning.’ (King Lear Act 3, Scene 2) 48. ‘Brevity is the soul of wit.‘ (Hamlet Act 2, Scene 2) 49. ‘This royal throne of kings, this sceptred isle… This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.’ (Richard II Act 2, Scene 1) 50. ‘What light through yonder window breaks.’ Romeo and Juliet Act 2, Scene 2) • Book of quotation by William Shakespeare