How to hesitate (like Rival Consoles)

[@OscarUnderdog]

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[@johntilelli]

I think the perfect example of this is Neon Pattern Drums by Jon Hopkins. One of my favorite tracks of all time.

[@antoineguilbeault8025]

I was going to say this technoque feels very jon hopkins like

[@Boaugustin]

me it's open eyes signal haha

[@nah2860]

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[@pikzel]

Love this style. Rival Consoles - Recovery hit me hard back in 2015. I was inspired for months.

[@graceintheplace13]

One of my favorite songs of all-time! It is the story of my life in music.

[@Antonio_Ortiz]

I only just discovered Recovery yesterday, which is fantastic. Better late than never, I suppose.

[@etherealbonds]

I do this in every track as well. I am just using two random LFOs controlling different parameters of Delays and Beat Repeats, send the audio through it that I want to fuck up, record everything and then pick the parts that fit the best. If you do this to almost every layer in your track you'll create a fuckton of glitches you can then use in every way possible to make the track way more interesting. It's actually the most essetial tool for my workflow as a glitch producer.

[@styzr]

Checked out your music. Great stuff. Keep it up.

[@larsegholmfischmann6594]

I've made electronic music since 1995 and I still get inspiration for new things watching your videos. Interestingly enough, I've actually always done something similar to this process without really having any intention other than just goofing around.

[@dirtyharry6297]

Same here. Releasing music, but still getting inspiration from videos like that 😊

[@Dellidell10]

Great concept! Rival consoles approach to this is actually to have different send groups with loads of fx and then just automate the send level. Source: Rival Consoles

[@OscarUnderdog]

Ow nice to know 😄 i saw them also use a prophet through a lot of fx pedals, which is a more realtime, physical version of this method i think.

[@Dellidell10]

@@OscarUnderdog Just found the quote: "I don't ever really do anything complex, the main thing is I will try to find a through line, be it a melody or chord progression and then build Sonics around that, I like when things bleed in and out of each other - actually one technique which is powerful is to have loads of effects on a return channel; reverbs, delays, salty grain, filtering compression and to ride the send fader of a synth part into that" Playing it in live with a lot of movement on the prophet with lfo on the vca, filter, arp etc and through the pedals do some heavy lifting for sure, but then there's lots more processing on the recording with automating volume envelopes, sends, groups and gating, etc, etc haha.

[@Robert_Babicz]

Rival Consols is mega amazing

[@dj_kaits]

This concept absolutely blew my mind! As a very green producer, I’ve been exploring how some of my favorite producers manage to give me goosebumps and this is absolutely something I plan to start playing with in Ableton. Thank you!🙏

[@kylewilson2161]

lol cirez d full stop comes to mind immediately. it is painfully aware of its hesitance

[@f67739]

this sounds a lot like the background music/ambience in mirror's edge, awesome tutorial

[@claudiomalz]

a nice way to not get bored of making music

[@thierry.933]

thank you, fanstastic tip and good mini track

[@theenglisharmy]

this is a cool approach, i think he just plays with lfo on lfo, cutoffs, and then plays parts out quite a bit. I myself automate a ton to do these kind of things (i.e. automate turning on portal, automate wet/dry portal, etc.. and so on)

[@ParrotZeka]

Are you planning to do a course with this style of music like Jon hopkins, max cooper, Rival Consoles? I would be all over it 100% sure. Or foundations 2 will have topics? Thanks for everything, your way of teaching is awesome.

[@nebukad1833]

Nice. Really nice. I need to try with next song

[@smallalien5860]

You are so good at what you do. Brilliant teacher.

[@sgsrules]

Great video as always. I'm sure you have tons of ideas for future videos, but I'd love to see a tips and tricks tutorial on building Groove. I'm looking forward to your Foundations 2 course. Keep up the great work Oscar!

[@MrAngeloDy]

Bedankt Oscar, Altijd geweldig inhoud!

[@djlick2]

Another interesting way to do this, is bounce the original to audio, then mess with the length of the audio in warp, and adjust the grain size when the sample is SUPER long vs the original BPM, this gives you kind of a similar infinite grain pieces to mess with.

[@AKAtAGG]

Great subject for a tutorial right here. Love this - max cooper is one of my favourite artists and part of that is his use of this technique. Smashing it on this channel as always, love it man.

[@AUTOSAD777]

Oh shit. My man is doing one of my favorites! Thanks!

[@MuslimShortanov]

Perfect teacher ❤cool advice. Simple and fast. Love it !

[@4to_theFlow]

In astrology, the concept of the Gemini-Sagittarius axis is studied as an exploration that involves asking questions and finding firm answers, and hesitating by questioning them again. In other words, it's about oscillating between playing with questions (exploring) and finding answers that channel a direction. This is how the axis of learning is represented. I swear I'm not on drugs, haha. It's just that I identify a lot with the "random" nature of this process, and sometimes I hesitate and need something clearer to guide me for a while before questioning everything again. Your teaching style really catches my attention, Oscar. My respects to you. And thanks for sharing the names of interesting people to listen to, even though I must admit I'm getting more and more lost when it comes to genres, haha. But well... the idea of exploring is to search until we find what we feel fits us, and sometimes putting labels on things makes us miss out on searching in places due to prejudices... Anyway, too much philosophy for today. I send you a hug, and down with labels! But if you could explain what genre the musicians you recommended are, it would help me a bit with the missing Sagittarius, haha.

[@OscarUnderdog]

I’m quite touched by the thoughtfulness of your comment, thanks for this! The themes of questioning, searching and exploring are very present for me too right now. It resonates! As for the genre, I dont think i can help except to say “electronica”, which is super vague 😄 I’d go to their artist profile on spotify and explore the radio to see what else resonates! Try jon hopkins too btw!

[@4to_theFlow]

@@OscarUnderdog Well, I'm going to try to "release" the tension of so many open questions out there then haha🤗😅

[@marcelonunez4902]

Oscar can you please make a video of this topic in depth... love it

[@krysidian]

I'm ready to... hesitate! Messing with already existing parts of a song, mixing an messing up parts or smearing it into an ambient song is a really fun way to create textures that still contain all the characteristics of the track. Great tips as always, can't wait for more Oscars with different hats in the future!

[@RogueFire29]

perfect technique! Love it !

[@drunk_uncle]

OMG! This ttrack is soo good! I want it! I NEED IT !!!!!

[@ClaudeYoung]

I Always enjoy your tutorials, you always take a topic and make it really accessible for people making music!! I took your Techno Start to Finish Course as well. A lot of fun!! Cheers!!

[@OscarUnderdog]

Thanks for the support! 😄

[@AntonBanks]

The fact that you have a a Detroit legend commenting on your videos is a huge testament to the quality of these videos!

[@Bittamin]

I’m hesitating to get into my DAW TODAY 😂😂😂 thanks for the inspiration 🎉

[@christianvictor827]

Now that was something completely new to me. Good stuff! I'll have a lot of fun exploring this. ❤

[@0Human1]

Great technique...

[@HairyJamie]

Very nice and thought provoking technique - thanks Oscar!

[@musical.shamim]

Nice! That's a beautiful motif too ❤

[@0nacar0]

YES! More of Max Cooper please

[@DJVasC]

Great tutorial Oscar! I'm in love with that riff sound. In addition....that kick! The low's are so big.

[@secretsquirrel2]

I can't wait to hesitate

[@budgetgitarr5351]

An interesting technique for sure. The approach is quite similar to when classical music sometimes present fragments of the main themes in preludes or developmental sections before finally playing them in full. It is all about storytelling!

[@OscarUnderdog]

Nice parralel!

[@heftexperience]

Yeah, I have noticed in both classical music and Rival Consoles and such. Can you please recommend me some good classical music? I really enjoy this type of technique in well-used. cheers.

[@idrinktapwater6174]

awesome work

[@joenicedj]

This is awesome! FilterFreak also has loads of presets. Gonna use this technique on a tune tonight!

[@nolambda6486]

the new studio lookin gooooood ^^

[@seyyjJ]

your channel is a treasure, thanks for all this content

[@amado7760]

your awesome Oscar :)

[@shkltn]

great video oscar! love your content!

[@caglimedia]

cool workflow, super inspiring!

[@willygetssilly]

Love your videos Oscar!

[@andycordy5190]

Very useful. Thank you. I notice you have your laptop open with a mixer screen and a larger format additional screen with the main arranger view. How d'you do that?

[@AndyPost]

I Love to Watch your videos!

[@pablobj8207]

Very interesting!

[@hugofierens5875]

Hi oscar ! I was just trying something like this but couldnt end up with something satisfying. Unfortunately i cant afford the vsts you are mentioning and I m kinda new too granular modulation too so the free vsts i could find are a bit hard to master. Do you happen to know a video that explains it clearly or a more accessible vst ? Thanks for all the ideas !

[@nickstene1384]

Nice one!

[@DaveSweetmiller]

Great video! I’ve noticed your monitors placed on the table don’t have any acoustic foam under it. Don’t you have trouble with bass resonance on the table?

[@OscarUnderdog]

Not really! The speaker placement is pretty sloppy on my part, sound engineers would get heart attacks 😆 But it's just so small in this studio, I need to prioritize the workflow (i.e. my standing desk). I reference a lot so that's how I check for tonal balance, and beyond that I'm not overthinking.

[@richtrelo]

I love your videos. Always inspiring!

[@reniarlegieps]

Hi Oscar, last year you promised that there will be a great discount on your courses. Now the new year progresses with immense steps and I still wait for a great discount on your foundations of electronic music course. Did I miss something?? If I am wrong, please tell I am. I really love your content.

[@Nazieg]

Great tutorial!

[@jorgebou9626]

Oh Oscar! I was watching on TV but I had to switch my computer on just to give you a big THANK YOU! This is fucking cool...

[@OscarUnderdog]

Niiiiice :D

[@lukejbonner]

I just found your channel. Great content, man!

[@mattwest8642]

Cheers for this! Love Jon Hopkins myself ,id also recommend the vst Stutter Edit, i think theres an upgraded version now, is fricken awesome for effects

[@MaraldBes]

dope!

[@carlborgen]

this is great content 🙌

[@giovannilaera5212]

I hate YOU ... ;) ... I spend days on a track in my studio like batman in his cave ... and every time when i'm almost done , you release a new video, and it's off again for a month of work with your new techniques !!! Thank you Oscar, thank you for sharing, it's always interesting and very well explained, thank you for the music sir.

[@keithforrester82]

Great idea to really add depth and class to a lead!!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Also, I’d contact Bicep and see if you could release that as a remix, that drop is quality🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@OmarP8]

Muy buen video. Me inspiró bastante, Óscar 🎉 🎉🎉 Añadiría un cuarto plugin interesante para este proceso como ShaperBox... La idea de dejar el motivo principal y debajo del mismo trocitos super-alterados es realmente muy útil, aunque yo particularmente prefiero silenciar o cortar el trozo de motivo principal en caso de que ese fragmento lo cubra con uno alternativo... (Disculpa que escriba en mi idioma nativo, pero mi inglés es deficiente y por ello veo tus vídeos subtitulados al español). Excelente contenido como siempre 👌👌

[@soderlove42]

Thanks for the great advice as usual Oscar ! Just wondering something though, couldn't you just send the audio of the main motif channel to 10 different tracks which you then put various effects on, and then record these tracks, instead of copying the whole track over 10 times ? It would for sure be way less costly in CPU, but I don't know if there could be a downside to it regarding workflow and all that. Regardless, please keep up the amazing work ! 🤩

[@OscarUnderdog]

You can set it up in many different ways, depending on your needs! I think once you understand the principle, you can make your own 'flavor' of this method that works for you 😋

[@TheAnthraxBiology]

This is super Jon Hopkins like Singularity or Immunity era stuff

[@thomasdietz579]

Hi Oscar 😀what screen is that i are using with your macbook

[@OscarUnderdog]

Not one I'd recommend 😂 It's just a cheap dell I think, but I got a wall mount for it, maybe that's why it seems special? The wall mount is from Thomann.

[@pachoylxslimones]

💜💜💜

[@ds74878]

Are those plugins free?

[@Tof667]

Il est drôlement bien ce petit son clubby

[@flepix]

Big Tip!

[@jmrayon7413]

Cool, quite interesting way to create FX Layers for transitions, btw, AHHH, Oscar, your arm is cut off !! 3:00

[@ajez597]

Hmm.....that portal thing is more useful than i thought

[@ParadiseFound909]

Can we buy the project anywhere ?

[@XANDRE.]

HOW DO YOU ALWAYS KNOW WHAT I WANT?!?!?!?!?

[@marcperves2261]

When I see you I never hesitate #youaremymotif

[@OscarUnderdog]

🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 maaaaaarc

[@ChritisM]

🖤

[@SaucemanSauceman]

Cool

[@flechtheim_tab]

❤ fu**ing genius 🖤

[@JoyfulWAVE]

🔥🙌🔥🙌🔥🙌🔥🙌🔥🙌🔥👍

[@catn0b0t]

Nice! I like how you actually teach vocabulary to articulate music and how you can put the words on vibes I have always felt naturally but never new how to define.

[@OscarUnderdog]

Yeah I somehow feel like building the vocabulary and building the "understanding" go hand in hand. I'm always super grateful when I learn a new way of expressing an insight or a point of view around music. ❤️

[@johnwest6199]

Where are you located? State? Country?

[@frankiewylde7649]

DDOPPPPEEEEEE!!!!!!!

[@lairdkilbarchan]

I was, err, very uhm, attracted, erm, to the title of this, erm video. I think. 😊

[@bojusmusic]

Now I wish for a 4 on the floor version of Apricots…

[@fredericpasco2863]

rude boys strike

[@galaxy_brain]

*hesitates in ableton live lite*

[@OscarUnderdog]

😅

[@joni.sirvio8867]

ye ye ye bla bla bla.. where i cAN HAVE THIS SONG!!!

[@charleyfaithfullmusic]

come on u gunners

[@b.b.k.2788]

meanwhile the song turned into something great 👌

[@RogerWarszawa]

Nice ideas that feel like they could lead to some cool sounds 👍 But, for me, the video is too short and feels rushed, I would've preferred a slightly more in-depth explanation. We're not all from the TikTok generation, you know, we can handle longer ideas 😉

[@WillLockyearArch]

I disagree, I got everything I needed from this

[@RogerWarszawa]

​@@WillLockyearArch Perhaps I'm just slow and/or uncaffeinated 🤔

[@DrGuy118]

I have heard this advice before, never so concise... Usually you have to wade through hours of paid tutorials for something like this.

[@chrisb6296]

interesting

[@spectralassasin9356]

Is it supposed to be hesitate or hestitate ? Title reads "hesitate" but the text appering at the start shows "hestitate". 🤔 Got me a little confused

[@user82938]

This actually explains why Rival Consoles is kind of boring to me. If he did it on one track, it would be good, but he does it over and over again.

[@leandrusi4533]

Btw "how to hesTitate?"? 0:06

[@JoelLinus]

Hestitate?

[@leandrusi4533]

Now teach how to Andrewtate