Mum Tries Out Windows Whistler Build 2419 (2001)

[@OsFirstTimer]

Hey guys, here's a new episode of the old format in which an operating system is tried out. These will be fairly rare as the focus will be mostly software, but expect these OS try out videos to come out occasionally too. I hope you all enjoy it :) For those who want to see a clearer picture of the "Watercolor Taskbar" I designed as a concept in this video, you can check that out here: i.imgur.com/Wpf3EQX.png

[@imjustcaden]

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[@havingfunwithelijah214]

Great video so far

[@gavinhang619]

Please Do HarmonyOS

[@gavinhang619]

The taskbar concept looks like the longhorn plex theme😂😂

[@CodingWithBen]

YES. Your operating system videos are AMAZING. I use to watch them all the time. Thanks for going back to them :)

[@WindowsOnWindows]

Wow, this video style is a throwback! Just like old times. Thanks Diana and Phil! :D

[@OsFirstTimer]

No problem, I'm glad you liked it :)

[@inactivitie]

@@OsFirstTimer how does she get them

[@GavinScott077]

@@OsFirstTimer @OSFirstTimer Diana tries windows 11 leak!

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@@GavinScott077 your dream came true

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THE SERIES IS BACK!!!! I MISSED YOU GUYS!!!!

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Everything is okay, life is coming to normal. We can relax

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It's 2022 now life is better

[@farmervillager1376]

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[@OsFirstTimer]

Haha, thanks for sticking around so long :D

[@erroroliver]

I watched OSFirstTimer then I was younger too!

[@zClpz]

As soon as you said "Write, save and open a text document", I just got such a nostalgia wave lmao, im glad these episodes are back

[@tanza3d]

bringing it back to the classics! excited to watch this

[@jnist1-i7y]

I missed this series so much! Glad to see OS testing again

[@WalnutSpice]

Wow I never tied that together myself, your mom is totally right on the theme. So many aspects of the Watercolour theme would translate sooo well to Windows 10. Like, way too nicely.

[@OsFirstTimer]

Yea, they totally need to bring watercolor to Windows 10 :)

[@GavinScott077]

@@OsFirstTimer @OSFirstTimer Diana tries windows 11 leak!

[@muhamadrizkyananda]

Too bad they still opted to flat color even after Fluent design introducing in 2017 and Windows 11 only make them rounded color (mica title bar only for several apps)

[@MariHalo]

I missed this format! This video feels just like the old OS trying videos! Super nostalgic, and I’m excited to see even more of these OS videos from you and Diana!

[@sillyslayer_]

it’s 2:40 am here, and i’ve decided to watch this instead of sleep

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[@JohnEd_04]

OMG SAME SIS 🤩🤩🤩

[@Gratuity_tucci]

SAME

[@alifmumtaaz]

Yesss. OSFirstTimer finally comeback with beta build... I can suggest more for this beta build. Congrats with new episodes...

[@RFrappuccino]

Oooh nice! Whistler is a very good looking OS because of the water color. This man pulled out the script for the windows 10 theme XD.

[@thomasbrocherie7543]

I've been a fan of your videos for years! So glad a new OS video came out!

[@elevatorcait]

Missed this. I'm wasn't a huge fan of the games through time and I prefer this kind of content, but keep do what you want to do and I'll stay along the whole time =D

[@lancerdeltarune]

same (but kinda eh on gtt)

[@DeadUnderflow]

same, i hated gtt

[@tecpupy7310]

same!

[@prisj7788]

Yeah, the operating system reviewing/destroying was what I watched for. During the game period I stopped watching. I was excited to see a new non-gaming video.

[@vicr123]

I kinda miss these OS reviews. Lots of new Linux UIs (and updates to existing UIs) have been created since the last time you did this, so I'm hoping you'll have a look at some new DEs soon 👀

[@OsFirstTimer]

What do you think is the most unique new DE these days?

[@thedarkbomberplus9011]

@@OsFirstTimer As for a unique DE, I'd definitely recommend the MaXX Interactive Desktop, which has many similarities with IRIX though with a few features not implemented yet, so I'd recommend installing a launcher like Rofi and adding it to the toolchest by modifying the chestrc, and due to its similarities with IRIX, it would perhaps be best for Ben to try it out as Diana has previously tried out IRIX before, though there are a few key differences. Overall, it is certainly a very unique Linux DE that is rather different than the usual Linux experience. You can't even install it using a package manager, due to proprietary components which is because of the license granted by SGI for the author of MaXX to recreate the experience of IRIX back when they were still a company. However, there are clear and easy-to-follow installation instructions on the official website.

[@nodezsh]

@@OsFirstTimer GNOME 40 is pretty weird. Diana hated GNOME Shell back in GNOME 3 days so you should do a comparison. Plasma hasn't changed much honestly, but it has definitely improved. Might be nice to revisit Plasma since she thought it was literally perfect back on Arch Linux. Enlightenment, Budgie and Deepin might be the weirdest Linux DEs she hasn't tried, short of, like, starting from scratch with a tiling WM like i3/Sway/Awesome/dwm, which are very very weird but very time consuming to set up.

[@nodezsh]

Also, from the world of Linux phones we've got Sailfish, Plasma Mobile, Lomiri (from Ubports), LuneOS UI and Phosh. Out of these Sailfish and Lomiri are the most abstract and trying a stable OS stack on a supported phone (I repeat, on a supported phone) would be interesting. Finally, we've got a new competitor in the world of TVs, recently introduced: Plasma Bigscreen. Compatible with Mycroft, which is a voice assistant to compete with Google Assistant, Alexa, Siri, and Cortana. Though you won't find a lot to do on Bigscreen and it's probably not very stable. But it'd be interesting to see Diana fiddle with a TV, like with Android TV or Apple TV, or even Tizen (Samsung) or LG's webOS. All support voice commands, I think (Apple TV I'm not sure, but the rest all do.)

[@nodezsh]

Now that I've typed these out, I've realized there's actually a decent amount of environments you haven't covered…

[@ericwilliamofficial]

Looking At Beta Version Of Operating Systems, Or Anything In General Can Be So Interesting, Just To See What Never Saw The Light Of Day. It's Pretty Cool You Showcased My Second Favorite Windows Beta (First Being Windows Longhorn Build 4074).

[@tunatezer8902]

Finally, an OS review, it's been so long!

[@joshparker132]

I’ve been rewatching your videos all day! I’m so glad you uploaded :) Edit - I noticed you got a new CPU, does that mean you just upgraded the CPU or the whole pc?

[@OsFirstTimer]

Haha, something new to watch :D I got a new PC from MWave in 2020, it was faulty for an entire year, so they eventually gave me a full refund and I got a new PC this year from them. The new PC is perfect :)

[@joshparker132]

@@OsFirstTimer So happy! Great episode :)

[@joshparker132]

@Ma1w4r3 I know!

[@TechHaris_]

@Ma1w4r3 you did 2014 twice and the order is unusual

[@winelectronic101]

Diana definitely needs to try out Windows 11 as soon as it's announced on the 24th of June.

[@ghostchris519]

Return of the king

[@BOTHaven]

this reminds me of when i came home from school and i saw a new video in this format. dude thank you so fricking much im happy that you decided to go back to the old format for this video thank you phil and diana.

[@World_of_OSes]

That Watercolor menu item highlight at 7:56 with the 1 pixel border round the edge looks like the menu item highlight in Windows 8.

[@TeamTMS]

Windows 11 may be getting teased soon (June 24th)... hopefully Diana will do a reaction video to it

[@Ananasij]

It is already leaked

[@TeamTMS]

@@Ananasij Yeah, I saw. Not as many major changes are happening... Although the actual OS build download has been leaked, so better yet Diana can probably try out the OS 😊

[@Trigger4589]

This is a great series. I love this channel. It's amazing how you can fetch the beta versons. I love this series. Amazing it's back!

[@OsFirstTimer]

They are readily documented and available online which is super important for historic software preservation. I'm really glad people are dedicated to backing this stuff all up :)

[@Trigger4589]

@@OsFirstTimer Yeah, just would like to say that I would like to see a descruction video of this Windows verson. Would you be instred in doing a longhorn video of this same video? I know they take a long time to make, you do a amazing job!

[@ammamanagucci]

I missed this format and OSFirstTimer advance! can't believe I've been watching you guys for so long now.

[@erikthor07]

I actually used to live in British Columbia, Canada And I’ve been to Whistler once, it’s really nice.

[@bitcat3909]

OMG, THANK YOH SO MUCH FOR BRINGING BACK THE OLD VIDEOS. YOU DONT KNOW HOW MUCH THIS MEANS TO ME!!!!

[@jamesmiller7961]

YAY!!!! Im glad this channel is active again!

[@DanielClear2]

FYI: Watercolor was not meant to replace classic. It was intented as a placeholder from the start, hence the red inactive titlebar, to test new visual style engine. Luna was the intended visual style from the start.

[@DanielClear2]

PS: This build doesn't have that red titlebar.

[@Deepslate3D]

watercolor is a placeholder style just like ple and slate from longhorn, the reason they were made is because if a build was to be leaked the theme wouldn't be leaked before the announcement

[@joelyole3431]

Love your vids man!!! Been watching you since a long time and I loved your OS vids!

[@fabian6514.cr3]

The fact that today I was thinking about OSFirstTimer and then you guys posted this!! We missed you!!

[@OsFirstTimer]

Haha, thanks, I still remember you :)

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@@OsFirstTimer :))))

[@derpeii]

Just came onto KZbin and saw this in my reccomended, almost missed it early on!

[@AlexRobloxBB]

Diana should try the new leaked build of windows 11

[@noellewastaken]

I remember I saw some guys saying that the Watercolor theme was just a burner theme, so rivals didn’t copied the look and feel of the Luna theme before XP camed out.

[@daniloevangelista5798]

Not sure if you guys head of the leak of windows 11 by Microsoft which they are announcing a new windows os on June 24 anyways.

[@prisj7788]

Glad this is back, This is why I started watching you the years ago.

[@williamrogers5367]

So excited for an old style video! Thanks guys 😁

[@greyfiveys]

I remember watching these videos when I was younger, god this is such a nice comeback

[@eminmacanovic7071]

Woah! This reminds me of when i first found this channel, nice to see you still uploading.

[@SocialMaster762]

I really like that watercolour theme; they should have kept it 💙 I hope that Microsoft come up with something similar for Windows 10 to polish up its flat appearance Nice video, keep up the great work 👍 Will Diana ever try out an operating system in a different language again? I thought maybe Croatian because of her heritage?

[@OsFirstTimer]

I don't believe she can actually read croatian but yea, I definitly agree with you about polishing up windows 10's look.

[@SocialMaster762]

@@OsFirstTimer It could be any foreign language, it was just Croatian that popped into my head because of that connection. Or maybe let Ben try it out…

[@tflsh]

No worries! I converted the Watercolor theme from Whistler to a high contrast theme! It doesn't look exactly the same, but it looks very similar.

[@JackAndersMusic]

Hey could you get Diana to test the leaked Windows 11 Beta? It seems quite cool.

[@JJDAMEME]

Yesssss finally Osfirstimer use Whistler

[@retro6050]

Finally back to the old routine! Good job

[@smoothiethepotato]

I like the “Professional” desktop background

[@g4mingaz]

I missed this series so much!

[@blueknight07]

Yay! I like the new videos but it's always nice to go back to the old format once and again. Keep up the good work!

[@dirtbaker]

I love seeing these amazing videos, the software reviews are awesome!

[@ZekSanchez]

Yay a classic OSFirstTimer video!

[@Windo0ows]

The watercolor theme was actually never intended to be released, it simply was a deterrent for people to look into the new theme that was being developed

[@Diegotheartist1]

Lol I’m from British Columbia. And I’ve been to Whistler before, It’s a beautiful place.

[@hunterklowss]

1:14 It's almost like it's trying to be Window Vistawy.

[@sounds0fmeows]

you have such a cool mom. treasure her, go to the mall with her and have a coffee once a week.

[@lucasvanhonk8678]

A blast from the past!

[@andezp]

Hey OSFirstTimer, Please try out Windows 11 (its gonna be out on october but someone leaked windows 11 first build) the first build

[@samuel-wankenobi]

We are back to classic os first timer

[@SomeRandomDylan]

i missed this and i'm glad it's back!

[@Cont0rt]

jesus christ my childhood is back

[@b.war08]

Yaaay I missed the OS videos 😌

[@kqzo]

you think it'd be possible to try that windows 11 build that got leaked

[@randomchannel9331]

wow, i didn't know you still existed im glad i can watch this stuff again after all this time

[@seanthebandgeek5040]

You guys get a lot of emails lol (gmail notifs sound) So happy to see Diana testing operating systems coming back! Would love to see Diana try the new MacOS Monterey since a lot has changed since High Sierra - Sean (subscriber since 10k ;) love your channel)

[@kbhasi]

I have to wonder if Philip missed a bit of info someone posted that mentioned that Watercolor was intended to just be a placeholder in order to reduce the risk of the "Windows XP style" (internally called "Luna") being copied by competitors, at least from what I heard, but the visual style stuck in the Windows XP Language Bar, some MMC panels (including Services), and Office XP, as far as I know, likely due to internal miscommunications.

[@Pjoter124]

Ah, good to see those types of videos

[@yhfhdcf]

@OSFirstTimer, can you do a video on Windows 11?

[@jazminakarainy]

5:38 that actually looks amazing

[@IntellitechStudios]

Excellent video Phillip! :3

[@emmettdaster]

Yay life is normal again! Please continue making videos like this!!

[@evancrazyerror]

Dang it Phil! I was just about to go to bed :P But on a serious note, the lore the Whistler code name has to do with the roadmap of Windows at the time. Microsoft planned on three releases of Windows, codenamed Whistler, Longhorn, and Blackcomb. Whistler and Blackcomb would be major releases while Longhorn would be a smaller release. The idea was that to get from the Whistler to Blackcomb mountains, you would have to pass a Longhorn bar and grill. Same with Windows. To get from Whistler (XP) to Blackcomb, you would have to pass through Longhorn (Vista). But as we know, this didn’t turn out, and Longhorn was a much larger release than we expected, and Blackcomb was pretty much scrapped, atleast in the way Microsoft originally wanted it. If you wanna know a little more history on Windows codenames, this naming scheme postdates their sea-god based naming scheme, with Neptune, Oddessy, and Triton, where Neptune was for home users (there only exists one build of it online), Oddessy was for business users (no leaked builds), and Triton was just a small update to Neptune. But famously, they merged the Oddessy and Neptune teams to work on Whistler, and the rest is history. I also wanted to ask if you and Diana were planning on testing this “new generation of Windows” they plan on releasing in a few weeks, assuming they call it Windows 11. Maybe they will bring back the watercolor theme, which IMO should’ve been used as the default Windows Basic theme in XP.

[@totallyapinetree]

It probably won’t be called Windows 11 because Microsoft stated that Windows 10 is the last version of windows. It will probably just be released as a new build of Windows 10 as they usually do.

[@totallyapinetree]

@Ma1w4r3 it will probably be version 21H2 or something, not sure

[@totallyapinetree]

Just did a quick google search and found this: While Microsoft once claimed that it would never move to a Windows 11. Instead, Windows 10 would continue with a regular update schedule, with major updates twice a year. However, with the Windows 10X project now shelved, it seems plans are changing. I guess Microsoft is making a windows 11 then..

[@evancrazyerror]

@@totallyapinetree Microsoft never really claimed that Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows. One engineer that doesn’t even work at Microsoft anymore said that. The PC world took that and ran with it though.

[@OsFirstTimer]

Yea, really cool history, thanks for letting me know! As for this new generation, 10X got cancelled, as far as I know, it was looking really interesting! Windows 10 has started to become a little stale, I'm hoping for a real change up in looks to move away from the flat look, I'm getting a little... over it :P

[@Crytkee]

congrats on 200 videos!!!

[@Dustmix]

Wasn't watercolor a placeholder while they were developing luna to "trick" everyone if the build was leaked?

[@Red-ol9xg]

The classics are back! 🥳

[@icedjelly]

YES THE CIRCLE IS BACK!!!! just looks a bit off AND EVERYTHINGS GOING BACK TO NORMAL!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@nightfallgloam]

Algorithm recommend me this. It has been a VERY long time since I watched this series.

[@AquaPoki]

Yes! The nostalgia!

[@axethepenguin]

Wasn’t the final version of XP made in August 2001? It was just fully released in October 2001.

[@BRENTGAMEZ_Derp]

Question: Are you gonna try out the windows 11 leak or you gonna wait for the official release?

[@lancerdeltarune]

imagine diana trying windows 11

[@a_antw]

what about a video on windows 11 beta that leaked

[@CesareVesdani]

Windows Whistler is the pre-XP operating system.

[@hibutima3]

YEESSS!!! WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR!

[@pancakes4795]

YOOOOO I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT YOU GUYS!!!! GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK!

[@y0shiness]

10:50 Diana didn't complete the "Write, save, open, and delete a text document" task. She forgot to delete it. 😂

[@XeZrunner]

I love how Diana is very interested in the technical details in this episode :)

[@mynameupdatesannually]

Mum Tries Out Windows 11 (2021)

[@thomasm7108]

I'm supposed to be walking to school, but imma watch osft

[@OsFirstTimer]

As long as you don't do both, I'm not responsible for any injuries caused by a lack of attention while walking ;)

[@thomasm7108]

@@OsFirstTimer haha, I have free period anyway so I can watch when I get there 🤣🤣🤣

[@DyrenEditz]

"This, but in 3d." "How do you make this 3d?" "Well that's for them to work out" Great constructive criticism from Diana Adams - since 1973. 👍

[@cameronfoy3887]

Hello, OSFirstTimer I love your videos and I wanted to ask what VMware software do you use??

[@NikoD]

The real osfirsttimer is Back!

[@markusTegelane]

Finally, an OS testing video (the reason I subscribed)

[@Clairebassham1]

i miss the old os first timer you guys should really start doing these again. maybe try out the off brand operating systems you can find the iso files anywere

[@stormah]

You just got in my recommended again. I regret nothing.

[@chucklefun487]

Great video.

[@NourMostafa_Productions]

Finally! After almost a year! They are back at it!

[@ranchocommodorereef]

6:03. I really love the Windows XP Silver Theme. It's so elegant and beautiful. I love it so much and I prefer it over the Luna Blue theme any day.

[@smoothiethepotato]

To me the “Watercolor” design in 3D would not look good! The “Luna” in 3D is nice but imagine “Watercolor” in 3D it would look terrible

[@OsFirstTimer]

I was thinking the same, but, I can't visualise stuff so I'm not sure what it would actually look like.

[@EnigmaticLucas]

@@OsFirstTimer Are you aphantasiac?

[@nodezsh]

@@EnigmaticLucas That's what it sounds like. Aphantasia is when you can't picture an image in your head. Some people have no trouble while others find it hard, all the way through to people who can't imagine anything at all without using a pen and paper (or a PC, as it may.)

[@OsFirstTimer]

@@EnigmaticLucas Correct

[@Rasthro]

I also have windows whistler build 2419 installed on my VMware virtual machine,Sadly I can't install VMware tools on it (Neither any of you guys can) but we can STILL set resolution to 1920x1080 or Higher

[@softminted]

When it's 2:28 am but osft uploads...

[@OsFirstTimer]

Try living in Australia when E3 is live, everything is at like 3am :P

[@softminted]

@@OsFirstTimer omg you actually responded! I've been watching since 2014!! Also that must really suck :(