OSRS Leagues 5 - Tier 5 Relics Deepdive

[@tsui1024]

From the wording it Slayer master should also apply to all boss tasks including all DT2 bosses, all GWD bossess, and most of the new echo bosses. With the slayer helm that is a 15% damage boost on almost everything you will be fighting

[@Potat-o]

Sure but it requires Morytania, without that the relic is almost useless

[@seanrycek4694]

@@Potat-o That's not the only location that benefits. Rolling Wilderness and Tirannwn should drop both keys at all times.

[@Potat-o]

@@seanrycek4694 I didn't say only Morytania has benefits, I said it's almost useless without it, which it is, keys don't change that

[@alr6435]

​​@@Potat-o larrans keys solve almost every production skill by themselves that is far from useless edit: wildy bad though

[@joshholmes1372]

Brimstone and larrans keys are crazy

[@currentcommerce4774]

DPS > points for me this year its gonna feel pretty good getting my bis helm at 70% of PvM from a cave horror

[@arvsta96]

For me slayer master is even better than before, just having free task skips was enough for me to take it again, now you can also use slayer helm basically everywhere

[@MrMittens7]

I'm going VMF. The problem with Slayer Master for me, is that everywhere I'd really want the Slayer helm boost it doesn't work: Mainly: TOB and Colosseum. It also conflicts with the set bonuses from Moons and Barrows. It would help with Zuk and 2 of my echo bosses, but getting a Gargoyles/Dagganoth task wouldn't really be that difficult if I really needed that boost. Also, There's still going to be a bunch of slayer league tasks, so you'll wind up having to get tasks anyways. I do think it's region specific. Like, if you're going Morytania and Wilderness, absolutely grab it. Slayer helm boost on everything including the bosses + Larran's keys everywhere.

[@rever98]

Yeah, Morytania + wildy is a good point. Larran's keys PRINT supplies have some tasks behind them and the wildy is just full of bosses that can be killed on task plus revs. You can also imbue a ring of wealth for double clue scroll chance from any monster in wildy.

[@joshholmes1372]

MW and MZ love slayer relic for larrans and Brimstone keys

[@mennomaman3399]

I think I'm going Clue Arbiter. Because like you said clues give loads of points and they'll feel great with no gear reqs. But the real big thing is that 1/15 from all sources. you're gonna be swimming in clues and you bust em out at mach 4. However, Slayer master would benefit me since im going the Wilderness. Larrans Keys and boosted droprates for revenant items would be quite helpful. Still probably going Clue Arbiter tho.

[@Kalixin1992]

Finally a content creator that says what I've been saying about slayer master. We have so many Slayer points coming in and a smaller region to get tasks from. It'll be very easy to tailor your list to get what you want consistently. Plus I have 2 raid regiona. DFM. Slayer helm won't do much for me late game. Plus if you have mory. You have set effects.

[@Kalixin1992]

I will say people going WM without a 2nd raid region will benefit the most from slayer master

[@bumbiedore6611]

I'm going ZFM so I think getting brimstone keys from so many slayer monsters would be really nice in addition to the extra dmg from slayer helm to all the slayer monsters, the echo bosses, and Zuk which I'll be first time trying this leagues. As for the clues I feel like I'll be getting enough clues just afk skilling and combined with the clue compass it might be enough, and if I take treasure arbiter I might just be left with hundreds of clues at the end of leagues that I just don't want to do.

[@0bfuscated0ne]

I do agree overall. Depending on the points locked behind clues I will at least consider picking up TA. That being said, the ability to just skip bad steps kinda devalues it. Several superior slayer monsters have very good clue drop rates. Going slayer master makes farming cockatrice superiors viable for example. I'll probably also get a decent amount while afking various gather skills. Slayer master also allows for better Skotizo farming if you're in Zeah with the easier superior farming.

[@nickman287]

I'm taking the slayer one just because I don't care about clues or production master

[@higuybye7]

Same. Clues will still be easy with clue compass. I will be able to go through the inferno with a slayer helmet a lot faster.

[@lolmuffins1]

If people are writing off Treasure Arbiter because you already have Clue Compass then please consider that you're barely going to see any clue scrolls beyond easy without this relic. Production master speeds up already-fast skills that you can multi-skill while running around (especially with bankers note), and slayer master gives you more dps on mid-game bosses that already die at light speed, and your first inferno clear but if you have any experience in inferno then this shouldn't be a factor. Meanwhile all of the clue tasks beyond easy (everyone that takes dodgy deal can get easy clues from ham members) are pretty much locked off to you if you don't take treasure arbiter. This vid is right, treasure arbiter is objectively the best points relic. Funny enough, if you're taking dodgy deals but not treasure arbiter then Kandarin gets some value. You can afk pickpocket gnomes, paladins, and heroes and get a decent (and afk!) source of clues. But either way your relic choice is valid, not everybody plays leagues to get dragon cup so if that isn't your objective then treasure arbiter becomes much less valuable.

[@joshholmes1372]

Yeah, definitely won't get clue scrolls doing afk slayer in wilderness with ring of wealth i...or afk gathering or afk thieving. Or sendingd 100s of boss kc. Smh

[@lolmuffins1]

@joshholmes1372 okay. do you think you'll get enough medium, hards, and elites in 8 weeks for the clue tasks?

[@TheRandomgamez]

@@lolmuffins1 for my route of FMD, hard clues are 1/100 from vyres pickpocketing, which if taking DD, is not that long considering the AOE effect. Elites also drop from raids like TOB at an okay rate depending on how many you run. I think the best thing to do is assess what would be the most fun for the individual, but also if the slayer related tasks and the clue related tasks are close in points. It is "assumed" that clues are more, but they could have toned it down to be similar.

[@Mantolwen]

I actually like clues and dont care too much about pvm so this was an easy choice for me. Will probably pick power miner in t1 to help with faster skilling over production master

[@jax775]

All I care about this league is 1. Maxing 2. Having fun Range ZAF, I'm taking production

[@Azebu95]

For me Treasure Arbiter is also just a fun one. Gambling and lootboxes are fun.

[@TheCrimson7272]

PM saves ALOT of time for 99s and 50m exp grinds. With GG you can buy 50m of exp in a lot of skills and do it almost instantly

[@Daldorn]

I’m thinking about going slayer just for brimstone keys. Ranger without dessert makes brimstone a good source of dart tips. Any opinions on this?

[@nubstopable]

If you aren't taking desert, brimstone keys and vorkath are your best options for getting rune and dragon dart tips. Crystal implings also give them, but good luck trying to farm them among everyone else in priff.

[@Purush97]

No mention at all about the benefit of slayer helm for 1st inferno kc attempts for players (of course with Leagues buffs this isn't mandatory at all, but there are some people int his game that may be drastically less experienced at PVM than others), as well as for bosses that would otherwise not have a reasonable to obtain task (Boss tasks-Bandos, Saradomin, all DT2 bosses, Muspah, Zulrah). In addition to that, there should be some consideration for the constant Larran's Keys (Wildy) or Brimstone Keys (Zeah) no matter what you're killing; That's going to take a huge weight off of solving certain skills, potentially freeing up relic choices that were taken just to solve skills that those two keys might solve entirely on their own.

[@Teeteeteeteetee-w4m]

Love the vids! Do we have confirmation Slayer Master will work on Boss tasks in main game like Vard, Duke, Zulrah? They seemed to imply it would, but then what task list is it going off of? They typically aren't assignable in leagues tasklists. This seems like a tier that you wait for a streamer to pick the slayer relic first to explore what does and doesn't work with it and then decide 😂Could gain a boatload of passive slayer XP while doing boss tasks if it does function the way it seems to have been implied that it will.

[@TheBalz34]

Velikan, can you confirm this for me (and for anyone who might be interested)? Few days ago, I can't remember exactly when or where I heard this, but I remember heard someone saying that to use the crystal blessing (echo cg), you need to wear full set or crystal amour. If that's true, then I will drop slayer master relic entirely because you can't wear the slayer helm. Can you confirm that this is true or false? Thanks!

[@rlpopowich7852]

it will be the same as bowfa/crystal armour each piece giving a bonus. So you can drop crystal helm (5% accuracy and 2.5% damage) for slayer helm and still see benefits.

[@Epicsting]

keep in mind slayer master make some mobs drop rates better, like the face gaurd from basilisk knights

[@burntfish123]

Slayer relic is sooo much better than last year. Last year i went clue relic for points and when you need a specific slayer task for points it's easy to blow 2k+ cancelling constant bloodveld and abby demon tasks. Feels bad and snoring. But no more of that + bis helm for everything except raids, yuge for Mory pickers

[@Cheslucky]

With my regions being wildy plus Morytania I’m going slayer relic for all the extra damage on all bosses

[@joshholmes1372]

I dont think you gave very robust analysis on slayer relic perks and skips. Yiu still have to do task streaks, so skips and blocks are good for that

[@bakublader1999]

I think you're severely undervaluing slayer master. The biggest upside is being always on task for everything. Sure, you could waste your time resetting for tasks, or you can pick slayer master and spend that time way more efficiently. It will also work in inferno, unlike the main game where you need to beat it off task first.

[@bujuhhh]

i think one thing to note is that the only big ticket boss slayer works on is zuk though. With the power level of leagues, all bosses youd use the slayer helm on will be trivial regardless. The slayer relic being useless on stuff like raids/nex/nightmare/colo is a big problem for it

[@dreamerdark0]

Slayer master 100% seems like a bait, with the passive 5x points, it'll be easy enough to skip whatever you need to cater your tasks, I don't think there will be a lot of instances where you are hopping between different mobs so frequently. Also mory has so many set effects using the helm slot.

[@BeefOSRS]

Keep em coming !!

[@Welderii]

Finally content creator who is not in that bizarre Slayer Master hype

[@wouter12wpp]

I don't understand why the "Always on task" and "free skips and blocks" is nessesary. Why not just have the ability to choose your slayer task, and the amount of kills you need.

[@DankSauce-lh8zk]

Dev time wasted. Just stop being lazy.

[@joshholmes1372]

Always on task is way better wtf

[@DardyGamer]

NPC contact + 5x slayer points = always on task for whatever monster you want anyway. Slayer relic isn't very good imo.

[@TheAuzman466]

IMO if you’re already going for clue teleports, clues are already so trivialized you don’t need T5 clue relic. Unless you just want super clues.

[@GlenM15]

I've thought about this, it would make gp come easy from alchables, filling clue point tasks up and collection log tasks were a thing last time Edit: you get around 900 points from clues just in the easy and medium tasks

[@TheAuzman466]

⁠@@GlenM15I think I decided that if I have to drop a clue every now and then and obtain emote items once, that’s fine by me, I’ll still be able to get a shitton of clues done. Ultimately I’ll see what I end up on when I reach T5

[@Chaos1044]

I have seen a lot of people say this same thing, but I think the big thing this opinion is not thinking about is that there is no increase to clue drop rates without taking the T5 clue relic. Clue Compass will make completing clue scrolls extremely quick, but it won't make obtaining clue scrolls any quicker than the main game whatsoever. Whereas the T5 clue relic will give you a 1/15 droprate for any tier of clue scroll from any creature that can drop it, as well as a 10x multiplier on clue nests, bottles, and geodes. Farming clue scrolls will still be pretty damn slow for anybody who doesn't have the T5 relic - so even if you can complete them really quickly, you'd have to waste ample time getting your clue scroll stack in the first place.

[@Feast_]

Yeah this was my thought too Already picking clue compass. My regions won't have access to Falo and emote clue items are just a minor inconvenience, plus I picked Mory for my second region *because* of the slayer helm (otherwise it would have been my third pick), so picking the Slayer relic over the Clue one is a no brainer

[@GlenM15]

@@Feast_ Yeah slayer is kind of a must with Mory for the 15% damage increase alone, Slayer is very easy in leagues other wise, the only thing i do lack on and even in the main game is clues haha, i value downtime so production master is a waste for me (and i picked it last time) I keep thinking if i take the clue one it removes my want for golden god gp benefit

[@alanrickby5704]

Everything is a task. It means you can kill any mob anywhere for slayer xp. Furthermore Lorenz enjoyers have the chance that these monsters/npc’s drop brimstone keys. Wilderness slayer is still wilderness. So still good. Slayer relic op.

[@gangweed44]

I'd think "all eligible slayer monsters" means you're on task for just mobs that you could normally kill for tasks. Probably includes boss tasks, so that's nice. You're not getting slayer XP for Nightmare or smth like that tho. The Brimstone Keys/Larran's Keys are huge though, especially if Dagon'hai Set returns as a task.

[@TheHeedbo]

What about, Clue compass vs Treasure Arbiter. Won't Clue compass already solve 90% of clue hunting? I hope they significantly lowered the amount if points behind clue tasks, cause I wanna go for points. But the clue tasks are the most boring shit ever. The rewards from clues have no significanse in Leagues.

[@Velikan314]

Two things. First, I agree it's boring but clue hunting is for points only. If you're playing for fun then you can skip that entirely. Second, I think Arbiter forcing the lowest amount of steps AND letting you skip item requirement tasks are very big and Clue compass alone won't save clue hunting I'm sure.

[@linguotgr]

TA is there to solve the problem of actually getting scrolls, and getting rid of some of the really bad item requirements you otherwise need to deal with. I would also estimate that between the time saved actually equipping items needed, and the lower clue steps per scroll, it probably comes close to halving your actual time doing clues.