OSRS Leagues 5 - Tier 5 Relics Deepdive

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Velikan

Velikan

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@tsui1024
@tsui1024 2 ай бұрын
From the wording it Slayer master should also apply to all boss tasks including all DT2 bosses, all GWD bossess, and most of the new echo bosses. With the slayer helm that is a 15% damage boost on almost everything you will be fighting
@Potat-o
@Potat-o 2 ай бұрын
Sure but it requires Morytania, without that the relic is almost useless
@seanrycek4694
@seanrycek4694 2 ай бұрын
@@Potat-o That's not the only location that benefits. Rolling Wilderness and Tirannwn should drop both keys at all times.
@Potat-o
@Potat-o 2 ай бұрын
@@seanrycek4694 I didn't say only Morytania has benefits, I said it's almost useless without it, which it is, keys don't change that
@alr6435
@alr6435 2 ай бұрын
​​@@Potat-o larrans keys solve almost every production skill by themselves that is far from useless edit: wildy bad though
@joshholmes1372
@joshholmes1372 2 ай бұрын
Brimstone and larrans keys are crazy
@currentcommerce4774
@currentcommerce4774 2 ай бұрын
DPS > points for me this year its gonna feel pretty good getting my bis helm at 70% of PvM from a cave horror
@arvsta96
@arvsta96 2 ай бұрын
For me slayer master is even better than before, just having free task skips was enough for me to take it again, now you can also use slayer helm basically everywhere
@Kalixin1992
@Kalixin1992 2 ай бұрын
Finally a content creator that says what I've been saying about slayer master. We have so many Slayer points coming in and a smaller region to get tasks from. It'll be very easy to tailor your list to get what you want consistently. Plus I have 2 raid regiona. DFM. Slayer helm won't do much for me late game. Plus if you have mory. You have set effects.
@Kalixin1992
@Kalixin1992 2 ай бұрын
I will say people going WM without a 2nd raid region will benefit the most from slayer master
@bumbiedore6611
@bumbiedore6611 2 ай бұрын
I'm going ZFM so I think getting brimstone keys from so many slayer monsters would be really nice in addition to the extra dmg from slayer helm to all the slayer monsters, the echo bosses, and Zuk which I'll be first time trying this leagues. As for the clues I feel like I'll be getting enough clues just afk skilling and combined with the clue compass it might be enough, and if I take treasure arbiter I might just be left with hundreds of clues at the end of leagues that I just don't want to do.
@MrMittens7
@MrMittens7 2 ай бұрын
I'm going VMF. The problem with Slayer Master for me, is that everywhere I'd really want the Slayer helm boost it doesn't work: Mainly: TOB and Colosseum. It also conflicts with the set bonuses from Moons and Barrows. It would help with Zuk and 2 of my echo bosses, but getting a Gargoyles/Dagganoth task wouldn't really be that difficult if I really needed that boost. Also, There's still going to be a bunch of slayer league tasks, so you'll wind up having to get tasks anyways. I do think it's region specific. Like, if you're going Morytania and Wilderness, absolutely grab it. Slayer helm boost on everything including the bosses + Larran's keys everywhere.
@rever98
@rever98 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, Morytania + wildy is a good point. Larran's keys PRINT supplies have some tasks behind them and the wildy is just full of bosses that can be killed on task plus revs. You can also imbue a ring of wealth for double clue scroll chance from any monster in wildy.
@joshholmes1372
@joshholmes1372 2 ай бұрын
MW and MZ love slayer relic for larrans and Brimstone keys
@mennomaman3399
@mennomaman3399 2 ай бұрын
I think I'm going Clue Arbiter. Because like you said clues give loads of points and they'll feel great with no gear reqs. But the real big thing is that 1/15 from all sources. you're gonna be swimming in clues and you bust em out at mach 4. However, Slayer master would benefit me since im going the Wilderness. Larrans Keys and boosted droprates for revenant items would be quite helpful. Still probably going Clue Arbiter tho.
@user-zu1ix3yq2w
@user-zu1ix3yq2w Ай бұрын
Did you take it yet? How is it?
@mennomaman3399
@mennomaman3399 Ай бұрын
@@user-zu1ix3yq2w loving it. I dont need to drop clues anymore because I need to wear items I dont have, and you get so many clues for just existing it feels like. Theres no real need to farm clues when you just get them by playing the game. Fishing gives so many more than expected, and kiling random slayer mobs give hard clues at a quick rate. I didnt take dodgy deals but I imagine that'd go hard with it too.
@TheCrimson7272
@TheCrimson7272 2 ай бұрын
PM saves ALOT of time for 99s and 50m exp grinds. With GG you can buy 50m of exp in a lot of skills and do it almost instantly
@jax775
@jax775 2 ай бұрын
All I care about this league is 1. Maxing 2. Having fun Range ZAF, I'm taking production
@foolish3art
@foolish3art Ай бұрын
I'm right there with you buddy
@DukeButtwater
@DukeButtwater Ай бұрын
As someone who picked Wilderness last time with the intention of getting Dagon'hai, I really think that Slayer Master's synergy with it and Morytania is overstated. Unless you're picking regions bloated with slayer tasks outside of the Wilderness, it's easy to fish for good tasks in it. It's even easier if you compromise and do the occasional ankou, lava dragon, or abyssal demon task - and it isn't like you get nothing from these. I ended up with 4 full sets of Dagon'hai and more than enough supplies just by blocking and skipping tasks. After an initial time investment, you can basically be on-task with whatever monster you want, whenever you want, and it's not like the slayer helm's damage bonus ceases to exist if you don't pick the relic. What you're really picking the relic for is the ability to mindlessly burst greater nechyreal to your heart's content instead of occasionally getting teleported around by abyssal demons.
@nickman287
@nickman287 2 ай бұрын
I'm taking the slayer one just because I don't care about clues or production master
@higuybye7
@higuybye7 2 ай бұрын
Same. Clues will still be easy with clue compass. I will be able to go through the inferno with a slayer helmet a lot faster.
@user-zu1ix3yq2w
@user-zu1ix3yq2w Ай бұрын
Smart tbh
@Teeteeteeteetee-w4m
@Teeteeteeteetee-w4m 2 ай бұрын
Love the vids! Do we have confirmation Slayer Master will work on Boss tasks in main game like Vard, Duke, Zulrah? They seemed to imply it would, but then what task list is it going off of? They typically aren't assignable in leagues tasklists. This seems like a tier that you wait for a streamer to pick the slayer relic first to explore what does and doesn't work with it and then decide 😂Could gain a boatload of passive slayer XP while doing boss tasks if it does function the way it seems to have been implied that it will.
@Azebu95
@Azebu95 2 ай бұрын
For me Treasure Arbiter is also just a fun one. Gambling and lootboxes are fun.
@0bfuscated0ne
@0bfuscated0ne 2 ай бұрын
I do agree overall. Depending on the points locked behind clues I will at least consider picking up TA. That being said, the ability to just skip bad steps kinda devalues it. Several superior slayer monsters have very good clue drop rates. Going slayer master makes farming cockatrice superiors viable for example. I'll probably also get a decent amount while afking various gather skills. Slayer master also allows for better Skotizo farming if you're in Zeah with the easier superior farming.
@Mantolwen
@Mantolwen 2 ай бұрын
I actually like clues and dont care too much about pvm so this was an easy choice for me. Will probably pick power miner in t1 to help with faster skilling over production master
@lolmuffins1
@lolmuffins1 2 ай бұрын
If people are writing off Treasure Arbiter because you already have Clue Compass then please consider that you're barely going to see any clue scrolls beyond easy without this relic. Production master speeds up already-fast skills that you can multi-skill while running around (especially with bankers note), and slayer master gives you more dps on mid-game bosses that already die at light speed, and your first inferno clear but if you have any experience in inferno then this shouldn't be a factor. Meanwhile all of the clue tasks beyond easy (everyone that takes dodgy deal can get easy clues from ham members) are pretty much locked off to you if you don't take treasure arbiter. This vid is right, treasure arbiter is objectively the best points relic. Funny enough, if you're taking dodgy deals but not treasure arbiter then Kandarin gets some value. You can afk pickpocket gnomes, paladins, and heroes and get a decent (and afk!) source of clues. But either way your relic choice is valid, not everybody plays leagues to get dragon cup so if that isn't your objective then treasure arbiter becomes much less valuable.
@joshholmes1372
@joshholmes1372 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, definitely won't get clue scrolls doing afk slayer in wilderness with ring of wealth i...or afk gathering or afk thieving. Or sendingd 100s of boss kc. Smh
@lolmuffins1
@lolmuffins1 2 ай бұрын
@joshholmes1372 okay. do you think you'll get enough medium, hards, and elites in 8 weeks for the clue tasks?
@TheRandomgamez
@TheRandomgamez 2 ай бұрын
@@lolmuffins1 for my route of FMD, hard clues are 1/100 from vyres pickpocketing, which if taking DD, is not that long considering the AOE effect. Elites also drop from raids like TOB at an okay rate depending on how many you run. I think the best thing to do is assess what would be the most fun for the individual, but also if the slayer related tasks and the clue related tasks are close in points. It is "assumed" that clues are more, but they could have toned it down to be similar.
@Daldorn
@Daldorn 2 ай бұрын
I’m thinking about going slayer just for brimstone keys. Ranger without dessert makes brimstone a good source of dart tips. Any opinions on this?
@nubstopable
@nubstopable 2 ай бұрын
If you aren't taking desert, brimstone keys and vorkath are your best options for getting rune and dragon dart tips. Crystal implings also give them, but good luck trying to farm them among everyone else in priff.
@joshholmes1372
@joshholmes1372 2 ай бұрын
I dont think you gave very robust analysis on slayer relic perks and skips. Yiu still have to do task streaks, so skips and blocks are good for that
@Purush97
@Purush97 2 ай бұрын
No mention at all about the benefit of slayer helm for 1st inferno kc attempts for players (of course with Leagues buffs this isn't mandatory at all, but there are some people int his game that may be drastically less experienced at PVM than others), as well as for bosses that would otherwise not have a reasonable to obtain task (Boss tasks-Bandos, Saradomin, all DT2 bosses, Muspah, Zulrah). In addition to that, there should be some consideration for the constant Larran's Keys (Wildy) or Brimstone Keys (Zeah) no matter what you're killing; That's going to take a huge weight off of solving certain skills, potentially freeing up relic choices that were taken just to solve skills that those two keys might solve entirely on their own.
@mbabaneamputee7725
@mbabaneamputee7725 Ай бұрын
any further thoughts on tier 5 relics velikan?
@Velikan314
@Velikan314 Ай бұрын
Yes and no. I feel like I overvalued clue related tasks & points and it looks like Golden God plus Production Master is the way to the top of the highscores. The Treasure Arbiters might overtake way later but if you are playing for dcup (which I am myself) I feel like I perhaps should not have taken Production Master. I assessed Treasure Arbiter was a must-pick for points and it really isn't, but it's not like I value the other two relics that much higher now.
@mbabaneamputee7725
@mbabaneamputee7725 Ай бұрын
@@Velikan314 thank you! I havent got to play a lot, coming up on that tier soon.
@mbabaneamputee7725
@mbabaneamputee7725 Ай бұрын
@@Velikan314 I've been seeing some conflicting reports about black mask not working if you aren't on task. do you have any idea about that? if not nbd, I know ya didnt pick that relic.
@Velikan314
@Velikan314 Ай бұрын
@@mbabaneamputee7725 I don't know. Best to check the discord.
@user-zu1ix3yq2w
@user-zu1ix3yq2w Ай бұрын
What I don't like about Treasure Arbiter is it makes clues maybe 50% faster or better. And if you care about points, you have to factor in those were nerf'd. The boost to clue drop rate might matter -- the drops from fishing with AW are slow. But maybe dodgy deals has that covered if you go Kandarin. I think Quest Compass might be the biggest boost to clues. Bigger than Treasure Arbiter.
@burntfish123
@burntfish123 2 ай бұрын
Slayer relic is sooo much better than last year. Last year i went clue relic for points and when you need a specific slayer task for points it's easy to blow 2k+ cancelling constant bloodveld and abby demon tasks. Feels bad and snoring. But no more of that + bis helm for everything except raids, yuge for Mory pickers
@Lucky8seven88
@Lucky8seven88 Ай бұрын
I can see the appeal of slayer master purely being people not wanting to grind slayer. Some echo bosses require 90+ slayer, and you might have gear good enough to kill them long before that.. so slayer holding you up for a while could suck.
@Epicsting
@Epicsting Ай бұрын
keep in mind slayer master make some mobs drop rates better, like the face gaurd from basilisk knights
@Cheslucky
@Cheslucky 2 ай бұрын
With my regions being wildy plus Morytania I’m going slayer relic for all the extra damage on all bosses
@TheBalz34
@TheBalz34 2 ай бұрын
Velikan, can you confirm this for me (and for anyone who might be interested)? Few days ago, I can't remember exactly when or where I heard this, but I remember heard someone saying that to use the crystal blessing (echo cg), you need to wear full set or crystal amour. If that's true, then I will drop slayer master relic entirely because you can't wear the slayer helm. Can you confirm that this is true or false? Thanks!
@Meowgei
@Meowgei 2 ай бұрын
it will be the same as bowfa/crystal armour each piece giving a bonus. So you can drop crystal helm (5% accuracy and 2.5% damage) for slayer helm and still see benefits.
@BeefOSRS
@BeefOSRS 2 ай бұрын
Keep em coming !!
@Renzo_Benzo
@Renzo_Benzo Ай бұрын
going slayer master, i just want to pvm
@wouter12wpp
@wouter12wpp 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand why the "Always on task" and "free skips and blocks" is nessesary. Why not just have the ability to choose your slayer task, and the amount of kills you need.
@DankSauce-lh8zk
@DankSauce-lh8zk 2 ай бұрын
Dev time wasted. Just stop being lazy.
@joshholmes1372
@joshholmes1372 2 ай бұрын
Always on task is way better wtf
@Welderii
@Welderii 2 ай бұрын
Finally content creator who is not in that bizarre Slayer Master hype
@dreamerdark0
@dreamerdark0 2 ай бұрын
Slayer master 100% seems like a bait, with the passive 5x points, it'll be easy enough to skip whatever you need to cater your tasks, I don't think there will be a lot of instances where you are hopping between different mobs so frequently. Also mory has so many set effects using the helm slot.
@TheAuzman466
@TheAuzman466 2 ай бұрын
IMO if you’re already going for clue teleports, clues are already so trivialized you don’t need T5 clue relic. Unless you just want super clues.
@GlenM15
@GlenM15 2 ай бұрын
I've thought about this, it would make gp come easy from alchables, filling clue point tasks up and collection log tasks were a thing last time Edit: you get around 900 points from clues just in the easy and medium tasks
@TheAuzman466
@TheAuzman466 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@GlenM15I think I decided that if I have to drop a clue every now and then and obtain emote items once, that’s fine by me, I’ll still be able to get a shitton of clues done. Ultimately I’ll see what I end up on when I reach T5
@Chaos1044
@Chaos1044 2 ай бұрын
I have seen a lot of people say this same thing, but I think the big thing this opinion is not thinking about is that there is no increase to clue drop rates without taking the T5 clue relic. Clue Compass will make completing clue scrolls extremely quick, but it won't make obtaining clue scrolls any quicker than the main game whatsoever. Whereas the T5 clue relic will give you a 1/15 droprate for any tier of clue scroll from any creature that can drop it, as well as a 10x multiplier on clue nests, bottles, and geodes. Farming clue scrolls will still be pretty damn slow for anybody who doesn't have the T5 relic - so even if you can complete them really quickly, you'd have to waste ample time getting your clue scroll stack in the first place.
@Feast_
@Feast_ 2 ай бұрын
Yeah this was my thought too Already picking clue compass. My regions won't have access to Falo and emote clue items are just a minor inconvenience, plus I picked Mory for my second region *because* of the slayer helm (otherwise it would have been my third pick), so picking the Slayer relic over the Clue one is a no brainer
@GlenM15
@GlenM15 2 ай бұрын
@@Feast_ Yeah slayer is kind of a must with Mory for the 15% damage increase alone, Slayer is very easy in leagues other wise, the only thing i do lack on and even in the main game is clues haha, i value downtime so production master is a waste for me (and i picked it last time) I keep thinking if i take the clue one it removes my want for golden god gp benefit
@alanrickby5704
@alanrickby5704 2 ай бұрын
Everything is a task. It means you can kill any mob anywhere for slayer xp. Furthermore Lorenz enjoyers have the chance that these monsters/npc’s drop brimstone keys. Wilderness slayer is still wilderness. So still good. Slayer relic op.
@gangweed44
@gangweed44 2 ай бұрын
I'd think "all eligible slayer monsters" means you're on task for just mobs that you could normally kill for tasks. Probably includes boss tasks, so that's nice. You're not getting slayer XP for Nightmare or smth like that tho. The Brimstone Keys/Larran's Keys are huge though, especially if Dagon'hai Set returns as a task.
@DardyGamer
@DardyGamer 2 ай бұрын
NPC contact + 5x slayer points = always on task for whatever monster you want anyway. Slayer relic isn't very good imo.
@bakublader1999
@bakublader1999 2 ай бұрын
I think you're severely undervaluing slayer master. The biggest upside is being always on task for everything. Sure, you could waste your time resetting for tasks, or you can pick slayer master and spend that time way more efficiently. It will also work in inferno, unlike the main game where you need to beat it off task first.
@bujuhhh
@bujuhhh 2 ай бұрын
i think one thing to note is that the only big ticket boss slayer works on is zuk though. With the power level of leagues, all bosses youd use the slayer helm on will be trivial regardless. The slayer relic being useless on stuff like raids/nex/nightmare/colo is a big problem for it
@TheHeedbo
@TheHeedbo 2 ай бұрын
What about, Clue compass vs Treasure Arbiter. Won't Clue compass already solve 90% of clue hunting? I hope they significantly lowered the amount if points behind clue tasks, cause I wanna go for points. But the clue tasks are the most boring shit ever. The rewards from clues have no significanse in Leagues.
@Velikan314
@Velikan314 2 ай бұрын
Two things. First, I agree it's boring but clue hunting is for points only. If you're playing for fun then you can skip that entirely. Second, I think Arbiter forcing the lowest amount of steps AND letting you skip item requirement tasks are very big and Clue compass alone won't save clue hunting I'm sure.
@linguotgr
@linguotgr 2 ай бұрын
TA is there to solve the problem of actually getting scrolls, and getting rid of some of the really bad item requirements you otherwise need to deal with. I would also estimate that between the time saved actually equipping items needed, and the lower clue steps per scroll, it probably comes close to halving your actual time doing clues.
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