Otalia 05/27/09 Prt 2

[@luvspencersjersey]

i'm glad YOU were here today....one of the best lines from an otalia scene imho...to me that really cinched the it's not gus's heart that liv's in love with...it's olivia

[@Dani1165]

ahhhhh, I'm totally in love with otalia and guiding light!

[@cheryltaylor12]

Me too, Erikatica. I also liked all of Olivias introspective stares; the one where she is alone, unsure of how this is going to go and the one at the end when Frank acknowledges Olivias love for Natalia. It seemed as if Olivia was contemplating her love being seen and reflected back to her. I also liked Olivias Thank You without qualifiers. She was not thanking Frank for Rafe or Natalia, she was thanking him for herself for what he did for her family. Frank got that.

[@janiepug]

When Natalia said "I am glad you were here today"....what a sweet thing to say to Olivia!

[@cheryltaylor12]

I agree with everything you said PozoBlue. Liv and Nat are both putting their family before themselves, but their shared empathy is heartbreaking.

[@Sharpay452]

"I'm glad you were here today." Yes!!

[@KungPOWChick84]

Oh they are so cute when they hugged and the little hand grab. Natalia so wanted Olivia to come with them.

[@PozoBlue]

better yet, Nat added: ''I can give him a wonderful family (looks at Liv again), one that is built on love and respect''. *melts in loooooove with otalia*

[@straybarney]

Aaahh..I'm back and I love the fact that Frank "saved" the day and Liv got the hugs while he watched. Oh and oohh how bout Liv says she's glad Gus's heart was there and Nat is like "I'm glad you were here" Looks like someone found a new "love of her life"

[@BackuZel]

MentalVoid - Thanks you. The part of the no brain was great. I've seen comments about people giving Rafe a break for his age. I hear that but I guess this good child in me would try to remember that my mother lost a love as well and the hell she must have in when I was away. I've said it before he was selfish before prison and he has not changed.

[@jesusthongs]

frank is a good guy (i want to slit my own throat for saying it) but he did and does everything for nat and rafe in the hopes that she will love him and be grateful to him. liv does all because no matter what she gets in return nat's happiness is the only thing that matters--unconditional, selfless love. and yeah nat could use a little space so she can see just how nuts she'll go without liv

[@PozoBlue]

Did Buzz forget his meds today?! I had trouble understanding ONE word that came out of his mouth. On another note, although I want 'Frankie' to disappear from the Otaliaplanet, i soo prefer this surly version of him than breathy, whispery Furtz! Judge must have also forgotten his meds. That 'male' mentor was bolony. Rafe is an adult now...ridiculous. I'm sad for Liv, but loved Nat's reasurance all along the epi (doesn't mean we can't be together, I'm glad u were here, hugs, hand grabbing)

[@garterra]

I'm in agreement with those of you who think that Franks involvement at this stage could be positive. He's a good guy and I think he is finally starting to see how much Olivia loves Nat and how it has made her a better person. I'm betting he's going to be one of the people who help them along the way not only with Rafe but with other people as well.

[@astabasta63]

And you know what made it worse Frank having a freakin' "superhero" moment in the court room [insert the theme for Superman here] BARF. You see that hug at 5:39 Frank...you still lose Frank...you still lose

[@elizabeth354]

It's kinda interesting to see that Emma always brings them closer together, while Rafe actually tries to get Frank and Natalia closer together. Open your eyes! Otalia all the way! :D

[@carol00]

what do they say when they are huggin?

[@glawi06]

I agreed with you garterra I believe (since they have made a huge issue of letting us know that Frank is such good guy), that he will make Rafe understand and accept their relationship. I think he knows Olivia trully loves Natalia. Eventhough I haven't heard her say" I love You" to Nat

[@laminage]

Because that's always been part of Frank's Character. He raised Harley after their Parents Left, he Hired Eleni to work of The Airline Ticket at Wheels & Meals, he's always been a Caretaker because he feels that's the only way to be loved and appreciated.

[@iowadaisiesfan]

I'm lovin CC's hair like that. Jeezy that woman is HAWT!

[@cincygurl]

Guilty! Since I just graduated from college and am in the process of finding a job, I pretty much have no schedule so...Unfortunately when I get online to job search I go directly to YT, where there r no job listings...

[@cincygurl]

I know everyone's annoyed with Frank today, well everyday LOL, BUT I think he had a realization today of just how much Olivia actually loves Natalia...So yeah, get ta steppin Frankie!

[@ria507]

Yippie, I've been waiting with baited breath!! Thanks, Otaliafan!

[@cincygurl]

So, I REALLY need the name and singer of the song at the end of the clip!

[@newhope203]

I loved this episode. For all those angry about the mentor crap, GL throws away nothing. Frank will help Rafe to understand Nat and Liv and who is better than the guy who got dumped. I am loving this

[@astabasta63]

As someone mentioned in a previous post, a kitten dies everytime, someone gives Frank a compliment...so I hope you're happy.

[@helleneangie]

i'm with you on that nobra200. you're absolutely right!

[@Stacie023]

I think Frank may have finally gotten past some of his hostility towards Olivia and her and Nat's relationship. When he saw them hug he could see love there. He easily could have accepted Rafe's invitation to dinner but he knows it's not his place any longer. Frank is a decent guy, and as long as he isn't a hinderance to Otalia, or "accidently" tells Rafe or anyone about the relationship then he can mentor Rafe. Otalia needs alone time and Rafe can hang with Frank at those times. No problem.

[@BackuZel]

MentalVoid - love your sock puppet point. I wonder whether this situation is not arising due to the fact that Nat refuses to tell Rafe about Liv. The boy has always been sensitive when it came to his mother but he is a boy and two things I know boys smell funny and are usually clueless on matters of the heart.

[@Dot181]

does anyone know the actress who plays the lawyer

[@valluv1]

If you go back and watch the history you will hear Olivia say that Rafe doesnot like her. I agree he does not know how much she has done for both he and his mother.I hope that Nat sets him straight(NO PUN INTENDED).

[@AddisonGilmore]

I kinda agree (I by kinda I mean really) I have a feeling Rafe's reaction to Otalia is going to be bad... really bad. I was also under the impression that shooting Jeffery wasn't an accident so... I hope we're wrong and he's grown up but judging from the preview he hasn't.

[@laminage]

Hey guys did you know that The Judge played Jack Twist's Father at the end of Brokeback Mountain. He knew about Jack and Ennis and he was so furious.

[@docmystery]

She keeps getting kicked in the face...Olivia, y'know what? Let's get tanked somewhere

[@astabasta63]

Frank so MAAADDD at Olivia. Oooh I so skeered. Give me a break Frank, your evil eye isn't working.

[@astabasta63]

At a round 7:14, I almost thought Frank was going to clock Olivia when he walked by.

[@Kkosatka]

Yay Judge...way to use Frank the cop who tried to attack Doris as the "role model"! Great choice!

[@surrender826]

While watching today's episode it occurred to me.......E.J.Bonilla(a.k.a. Rafe) was nominated for an Emmy last month. Crystal Chappell was not. What is this....Opposite World that we're living in??? That just makes my head....and heart ....hurt. *going to find aspirin*

[@scottkylie]

'until the morning comes' gabriel mann

[@laminage]

I think that part of the reason why Frank did what he did because he may have remembered how Ross Marler had his back when he wasn't much older than Rafe helping him go on the Straight & Narrow so to speak.

[@cheryltaylor12]

I have two hypotheses about the "male mentor." 1. Plot device to keep Frank close enough to be a real good person and help Rafe through his mom's relationship reveal. 2. Like when Olivia yelled at Rafe and told him to answer his mothers questions when he was first arrested, Olivia steps up as the mentor that the judge intended Frank to be. I am betting on 1, I do not think emasculating Frank is good story.

[@cincygurl]

He apparently gave a written statement.

[@helleneangie]

1. *thanking nat too*. :))) i had the same thought about jumping, but then i took the elevator (living on the 10th floor) lol 2. whohoo, bring on Doris!!! she would've never agreed with F being R's mentor

[@noelfamily11]

I wondered about jeffrey too. olivia did speak with him last week.

[@1023bry]

Frank: "I'm taking this mentoring thing very seriously" Well, I'm taking the "I think your a horse's ass" thing very seriously!

[@PozoBlue]

I was just about to ask that. Does Buzz know? Did Furtz tell him about Otalia?I was like, huh? did I miss something? Although I'm pretty sure he knows deep down, he's just playing Dumb Corleoni. ''you mess with the family, you mess with me'' (said with a marlon brando voice). I say buzz off, Buzz!

[@iowadaisiesfan]

Is it just me or duz Nat roll her eyes from3:24 to 3:27 when Frank walks in the courtroom? She looks really digusted.

[@garterra]

She said she loved her both at the graveyard confession and at the spa when she said she loved her because she was the most nuturing person she had ever met. As for Frank, don't get me wrong, I find him quite annoying but, It would be nice to see him begin to understand the predicament Oliva has been in and will continue to be in. BTW, Jessica is getting so huge its getting hard to ignore it.

[@valluv1]

Just an added note to my other comment i think Nat is really getting into running the hotel with Olivia.

[@bosyeux2]

yes, but it often does. we make distinctions all the time even those of us that say we don't. are you gay or straight? if you are either, then gender clearly matters to you. rafe is a troubled person. he was missing his father... give him a father figure to help him come to terms with it. let him talk to a man about how to be a decent man. i love my brothers and father immensly, but there are things i can't talk to them about and things they can't understand. right or wrong is irrelevant.

[@laminage]

Rafe had a lot of people who wanted to be Role Models, Gus & Remy are perfect examples. His Father tried to get close to him but got the brushoff. If The Judge said he needs to get counselling once a week from someone who can make him see the errors of his ways, that would be different.

[@4everserrano]

Why are they ALWAYS making that Frank is needed?!?!

[@helleneangie]

lol i think you have the same illness i've got. (otaliatis) i called in sick two times, two different weeks *blushing* the funny thing though....i predict another illness sometimes soon...maybe a mental one since i can't stop youtubing otalia :-P *whistling*

[@valluv1]

The show is being cancelled so they have nothing to lose. But Rafe is infact an adult so cant be an issue for her but Emma could be for Olivia. I think we will see the action we want after the baby closeness is kind of a problem right now

[@jellybeanlou]

3:26 natalia still cant help eyeing olivia up and down lol, dont balme her!

[@musicaldramaqueen]

Judge ordered a "strong man's presence" and the best they could get was Frank?? I think baby Henry is a stronger male role model than the Furtz.

[@nickyj2657]

Got to be the most strangest relationship on tv, they don’t do much as kiss 😬

[@bosyeux2]

mmhmm interesting indeed. though no bleach, scrubbie brushes, or rubber gloves allowed. if you recall, we've already appreciated how, after washing dishes by hand, natalia "you can never get anything too clean" rivera likes to rest her head on liv's chest. (march 3) metaphors can be fun, you just have to take them out of the hands of a half-wit ass. thank you for coming with me on this one ; }

[@Zapactionsdower]

OMFG, "a strong male presence"... seriously? if it wasn't 2am i would totally be yelling at my computer right now. Sexism is alive and well in the Springfield legal system apparently. And I too, unfortunately, agree that Rafe isn't gonna take the news about Otalia very well. Goddamnit, will these two ever catch a break. *grumble grumble*

[@Maybeeee]

I need to know, is that really something they would ask for?? A male mentor? Why does it have to be a man? I don't get that...

[@memargie]

why does nobody stops liv and frank coming in during the trial? shouldn't s.b. be outside to watch out that nobody disturbs it??

[@valluv1]

We should give Rafe a little time to ajust but he has always seemed to act a little selfish to me . Olivia needs to leave Nat alone for awhile then maybe she will realize how much she needs her. Love Nat to death but time to think about herself and let Rafe grow up and man up.

[@Ashley931344]

I can relate to that, soo high fever! LOL

[@HelleWillow]

I so agree

[@uncannyresemblence]

Oh that just sounds tantalizing doesnt it. I have a sick sick mind lol.

[@RyanKasey]

Oh please...a strong male role model? That is the most sexist and stupid thing I have ever heard in addition to the fact that it would never happen IRL. Like women aren't able to raise a kid right? They do it all the time. Besides, his parole officer is probably a guy. Frank doesn't miss any opportunity to diss on Olivia does he? So far she has kept her mouth shut but I hope she eventually puts him in his place. Buzz too. You go girl.

[@x0x0marie0x0x]

anyway... jealybeans deserve to be nominated more than him (not that I's not a good actor... but not emmy worthy) ! Crystal Chappell so deserved to be in nomination... I mean srsly... But I have to say, I'm not suprise with how the Primetime Emmy's turns out every year with there nomination... I shouldn't be suprise with the daytime ones...

[@bosyeux2]

they're presenting genuine pitfalls and daily realities. give it time. this was not a freakin' custody hearing as some people seem to be assessing it as. a young adult man is being released from prison after shooting someone. i happen to think insisting on a mentor is a good idea. the fact that he lost his father (and was devastated by it) and still has a mother suggests a male mentor is a good idea. is frank the best man for it? i dunno, but he becomes a good plot device.

[@bosyeux2]

nah, he's comparing his "relationship" with natalia to a broken dishwasher--which is good for what? ohhh, i pick... NOTHING. and is it worth fixing? NOOOOO, cuz nat is now quite content to wash her dishes by hand... and liv will dry. mmmmmmmetaphors.... darkside? hee, doris kicked that out of him. he's practically being nice to liv this episode. perhaps even he recognizes the divineness that is otalia.

[@bosyeux2]

clearly yours works very nicely as well ; p "sick" minds? that sounds so harsh... this is simply where tawdry comes alive and everyone that wants it can have a front-row seat. no tickets are required though a vivid imagination is helpful.

[@helleneangie]

that's because the eye is made of glass lol

[@bosyeux2]

not just you

[@bosyeux2]

not really cool to make "acting like a girl" an insult

[@astabasta63]

Is it just me or is Rafes lawyer/public defender a terrible actor? If I was the judge, I would have sentenced HER by the end of her hearing.

[@song5537]

that is a load of crap...Rafe is not a kid... anymore. He is a young man and needs to find his way in the world. The judge was an Ass and ranks up there with Frank and Buzz for proving that Men are total assholes... I am pissed at how Frank and Buzz were so rude to LIV... Get over it Frank the better Man or should I say (woman) won.