Otalia 06/29/09 #2

[@valluv1]

I really am glad to see positive comments. Been reading some threads seems the positive peeps are coming out of the woodwork. Lots of good stuff on BPD site. Be carefull though some areas are still a little tricky.

[@2diefore]

hi guys, just watched today's episode.... and all I can say is we should all focus on the bigger picture and enjoy all the sweet moments + all the posts as well. Sometimes I think the posts on here have more drama than the actual soap... hahaha

[@giasony99]

You know what? Me too. When I remembered back at how alone Natalia really was, I mean think about Christmas, or New Years. She had no family, and there was Olivia giving her the Rafe height marker from Chicago, where she got to help Emma mark her height on it. Ah, there I go now, I'm tearing up. I miss Otalia already even though they're not gone. I'm going to have some Peanut butter now...

[@thozeyez]

I agree with you allison. Rafe does have a right to his feelings. Although Natalia never came off as a judgemental person she tried to hold her son to the Catholic belief s(not that he really abided). I love that Olivia spoke with him too!

[@rhyfeddu]

Nice to see Liv being a friend to Doris and being a sounding board for her - it's been a little one sided for awhile, and this reciprocity is good. An actual friendship there. Cool. Doris - you made me tear-y! Big credit to Liv for saying what she needed to say to Rafe - but keeping her cool. She even sounded friendly to Phillip on the phone. Such a change. God, is she Nat-whipped. ;)

[@FantumGrey]

I think the main issue is (or at least it is for me) that it'd be Frank's kid, and that would most likely cause Frank, Father Ray and Rafe to try to bully Natalia back into the "straight and narrow" double time. There'd be no getting them out of the farmhouse then.

[@francesglover]

Oh boy I will have to remember that one!!! My new mantra......

[@amidola]

Destini, you're a goddess,too.Although, I might not say it all the time:Thank you so much. You can't believe how grateful I am for you posting this,again,and again and again! Heartfelt hugs from Berlin,Germany(at almost two am;-)

[@Skellfanton]

To continue your train of thought, the Libra in me that is vengeful would also have Olivia hook up with Doris, they would get the acceptance from Ashley that Rafe couldn't find in his judgmental little heart to give, and Nat would end up with a spoiled little known offender/career criminal of a son, an alcoholic with a 'poor me' attitude for a husband and a lifetime to wallow in regret while Boris live happily ever after.

[@lambkelly]

So true ... Angela is a proud sister... and I am happy Nobra crossed our paths!

[@thozeyez]

I want an "I'M TIRED OF WAITING" square!

[@giasony99]

Ya, I love how even though Olivia is being polite to Rafe she still sticks it to him. lol. Olivia has just become more savy in her insults. woo Rafe has never once, put himself in his mother's place. Think back to a year ago. He goes to jail, she's lost her son, and pretty much best friend, her husband has just died. Natalia had no family. Then Olivia and Emma came along and filled her life with love instead of days marking off the calender. He should be thanking them for loving Nat.

[@lezwild]

i am kind of surprise that they actually kept us going 4 this long, i mean normally it takes like 2 weeks of a sl then we get tiered of it but this 1 has been going 4 months. i really hope that we all stick 2 it till the end nd not quit cause its not going the way we wanted it to go. we only have 2 months left we should enjoy it, wether it be good or bad. we started it nd we should finish it 2gether.

[@Dani1165]

lol, it's usually those with the most sin pelting boulders at those doing the same as them!

[@amidola]

Just wondering how many of us are stalking around here, waiting for the new ep to be up. Lots of stuff!Good stuff;-) Good night, Ladies.I'll have a happy awakening tomorrow:-)

[@favauntie]

hey jayweh, you are right soap time does move slower, but you are off with the timing. the non-wedding was in jan or feb. snow was on the ground. and she had actually slept with knarF before that. it is now the 4th of july. that is four months. in my comments from last week i have maintained my confidence that the writers won't do the preggers thing, and i believe it more strongly now. Look at the preview when N says to Blake about the possibility of being preg. "that would be amazing".

[@amidola]

Loyalty means, that you stick up for someone and with someone, even if they're not really doing yo thing.A lot of people have been very invested. These writers and producer have been giving us so much, really, and so many people just turn their back on themI couldn't care less what people write on here, but to think, that JLH, for example, could read that..It hurts.I am so,so grateful to her.Natalia left Frank at the altar.Because she could not stand before God.WOW!

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin arrives wet as it was bloody raining* *stomps foot* *jealous because sunshine started using the electric can opener before she got there* *nudge*wink*wink*

[@lambkelly]

hey lady my thoughts the same.. while we are so sad with Otalia... I have found a great phillipino Indy movie where women really find love through all of the trivial parts of life.... BUT IN THE PHILLIPINES... We in the US are so lucky... GL is only the begining of a lot more to come!

[@amidola]

A book with pictures nonetheless! Ms E could you please just post a link with the spoilers next time?I'm really,really trying to stay clean here;-)

[@favauntie]

too true jayweh. while i don't think that will happen, i don't give a shit as long as it iS OTALIA FOREVER!!!! and i am just going to continue to enjoy watching these amazingly gorgeous and talented women, until they take them from us, no matter what they go through.

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin thinking time gap not that wide between her and pumpkin...........*sniff* loves ya to the moon and back *blushes*slap*

[@favauntie]

greetings lavinleitrim from chicago, Illinois, 409 and your still up, poor baby, we are all gonna need some serious counseling when this is over. where should we hold the first Otaliaholics Anonymous meeting.

[@amidola]

He he, and back, I'm in Berlin, Germany.The Europeans are taking Otalia work weeks hard;-)But we've got outstandlingly good coffee over here.^^

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin picks herself up off floor laughing* *blushes* *thinks she still has alot to learn in the way of looooooove* *wink*wink* *thinks sunshine is still her best girl* *blushes*

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin hears sunhine sing, turns hearing aid down* *grins*

[@bosyeux2]

i think you're right, especially if nat isn't around when she finds out. and what happens if jeffery is killed as some spoilers suggest? both of liv's kids losing their fathers in a span of weeks potentially... she's gonna need her some nat big time. it also might be something that helps bring rafe to his senses... he'd understand emma's situation and might be willing to help out.

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin puts arms around sunshine and embraces her* *stands up on toes to kiss her on lips* *pumpkin can still taste the juice on sunshines lips* *blushes*

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin throws 2 week old muffin at sunshine knocking her over* *jumps off wall and catches glass of champers before a single drop spills* *bends down tweeks sunshine's nose, ruffles hair* *runs rather fast to Doris* ;p

[@francesglover]

hey the "I'm too shy" line is pumpkins!!!! get your own!!! *pumpkin thinks sunshine says "you are the best" to all the girls!!!!! *laughs* huh? am I right?? Gigolo *turns away in disgust* humph *wink*

[@francesglover]

*analyses that one!!!* *blushes shyly* *pumpkin tries to escape* *calls for help* alas no one will come.......*pumpkin feels unloved* *slap*slap*tickle*nudge* *knocks sunshine to the ground and sits on her* you know I am heavier than you, now try and lift me!!! *giggles*

[@Skellfanton]

cheryl - My little sister attended Catechism every Saturday for I don't know how long before she could have her first holy communion (yes all lower-caps). To this day, I don't know how I escaped that fate, but anyway...my sister is now a proud Atheist and I still believe in God (not in the bible or organized religion though). Hows that for backfiring?

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin does things to sunshine she can not say here* LMAO *blushes* *very naughty look into those dark eyes, runs hands through that short dark hair* *raises and lowers eyebrows* *wink*wink*

[@miekhead]

*Brings Mixed Crate of booze* Well hello everybody! *Guzzles down bottle of ready made pina colada* nom nom nom

[@favauntie]

hey amidola, 7:54 am here in chicago, still nothing from Otaliafan, i have never checked in before leaving the house, but we're worryworts right. SEND UP a flare or something sweetheart, let us know your'e allright. for any of you still searching, Leehazard and charleyfan, have yesterdays ep up on their channels. type you guys later, gotta go!!

[@amidola]

Hon, you 're missing out! Yesterday Olivia had that talk with Frank, that I've forever been looking forward to! And just all of the Blake/Nat interaction.Precious!Things I look forward to when Nat is gone: Liv and Phillip, Liv and Frank and Buzz, Liv and Rafe (Really looking forward to that), Liv and Doris.Doris' story.I hope these two stay just friends, though.I love their flirty friendship.And enjoy it much more than I would yet another relationship.

[@amidola]

Yay! me,too.The whole negative stuff among us has really brought me down.^^

[@francesglover]

pumpkin is listening to Otep *bangs head up and down* ouch!! *running hands through that lovely short dark hair* *looks into those gorgeous black eyes* *plants passionate kiss on da lips* *blushes* *tries to remember she is a lady*

[@koalanyb]

Olivia looks HOT no matter what hair style or hair color she has. She's just perfection.

[@francesglover]

*blushes* We have upset a few people. *half grin* once we started we could not stop it seems....whoops. Oh yeah Pumpkin goes to walk away, turns *slap*tickle*nudge*laughs* *runs away waving* *pokes tongue out* (sorry could not resist it) *wink*

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin thinks to herself, I wish I had told sunshine about the magic potion in my bag which could save her worthless life* *wink*wink* *pumpkin wants to wipe away those tears with kisses but alas can not* *sniff*

[@francesglover]

do not get pumpkin all emotional.....*sniff* *pumpkin keeps mouth shut for a change*.....

[@LiquidToffeeProject]

Suddenly there is this developing bond and new friendship between Olivia and Doris. Possibly an interesting turn in this love story?? Taking it to more of a political level..playing field. ;) I can see the latex and chains now and the women finally singing God bless America. Stress-less...

[@francesglover]

*pats sunshines back* Pumpkin will have to use her imagination.......*pumpkin forgot to mention she was a NUN up until 6 months ago* *blushes* *sneaks a kiss on the cheek* *grins*

[@balloonable]

"Pregnant!!!!Noooo..." - what's up with her being pregnant? I think it's nice. This show doesn't have long to go, and this gives them an instant family (other than Rafe and Emma - who they didn't really bring up together). We don't have much time - I like the idea of Otalia and Nat bringing up a child together.

[@nefreteri2000]

And you know this, my friend!!!!

[@francesglover]

Oooooh pumpkin could say soooo much to that statement!! "cut into pieces and eat" *blushes* BAD sunshine!!! But as a former NUN and a lady I will refrain!!! *wink*wink* I still loves ya....did I say that out loud....*turns hearing aid back up*

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin looks intensely into the ladies eyes* *recognises the smile from somewhere* Pumpkins eyes are blurry, blinks, looks back into those beautiful eyes* *a look of recognition passes over pumpkin* SUNSHINE!!!! *throws arms around sunshines neck and kisses her all over her face* *blushes* *whispers in ear...you just saved my life, thank you sunshine* * looks into eyes with adoration* *thuds*

[@Skellfanton]

I totally agree. If love (unconditional love) had a price, I think Rafe would have to involve himself in several ponze schemes (successful ones) with James, for several lifetimes to pay Natalia back for all that she's sacrificed for him. "Doing" for someone is one thing. Sacrificing for someone is something else altogether. Something little Mr. Judgment cannot even begin to understand but that *Olivia* can teach him.

[@hatshepsout87]

OMG I think Crystal Chappell (Olivia) is soooo HOT in this episode!!! I don't know if it's the hair, the makeup, but god she's stunning!!! I am so in love with Olivia lol :P But are these two ever gonna kiss??? Thanks for the video :)

[@amidola]

I'm off to bed now, for real! I swear!^^ But just let me say this, for all of you: If you keep obsessing about that kiss, physical progression and the Impending Pregnancy, you are missing out.Really.That show has been BRILLIANT these days.Brilliant. I hope, that Otaliafan puts in Phillips speech at his grave, because that was not Phillip speaking, but the GL writers.And I do believe, that it relates to Otalia.Alright, carry on stalking;-)Good night, peeps;-)

[@francesglover]

*thud* *shakes sunshine a little to wake her up from her dillusion* *blushes* *pumpkin might be good at trying to calm people down, with or without the aid of medication!!!!* *goes to sit on wall to think* *kisses sunshine and Doris* *throws a few muffins to people* *gets down off wall* *slap*runs*

[@favauntie]

Reading the first postings, I thought msescape09 was writing up her own version of the ep as so many do in this particular forum. ive never seen anyone write an entire ep. we can all use our fingers to click on the spoiler section is that's what we want to see

[@francesglover]

*turns hearing aid up to hear sunshine moan* *blushes* *slap round head* cheeky!!!! say it louder I can not hear you *changes battery in hearing aid* *glad eye*

[@JAcubs]

AMEN, SISTER! And, hell yes, I would SO choose Olivia!

[@francesglover]

*dear ROFL* *passes sweetheart the iron* *giggles* *tears roll down face* Giggles* *ahem* *whispers in sweethearts ear*...'dear has blue eyes' *wink* *blows gently in ear*kisses cheek* *blushes*

[@JAcubs]

When Rafe said to Olivia, what you're doing to Nat is wrong, I did think... Olivia isn't DOING anything to her! It is getting a little much in the "waiting" dept, I agree.

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin likes watching sunshine fix things* *wink*wink* *blushes* I can wait, I am very patient.....*skips off to shower* Oh Stella, what are you doing here O_O put some clothes on woman!!! *blushes* *Calls Doris*

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin holds sunshine close, and falls asleep peacefully* *hoping sunshine will enjoy her well earned rest* *wink*

[@francesglover]

not alot what time is it for you now???

[@francesglover]

*pokes tongue out* I'll give you BROWN eyes!!!!!!!!!! *slap* You know they are purple O_o *pumpkin remembers she was meant to bring her 'surf board over not ironing board* DOH!!!!! silly me!! *blushes*

[@cheryltaylor12]

Very true, his male role models are greatly lacking in security, relationship experience, and issues of women in general. Maybe, Buzz plays a role in the future. I think eventually Frank will do the right thing, but it will not be believable. However, I don't think educational level determines the ability to think. I know many advanced degree people that hate to think, it is easier to be spoon-feed what to think. The Church has capitalized on this. There is hope for Rafe. We need him.

[@francesglover]

BIG TROUBLE my 'little ray of sunshine' *wink*wink* *mwah*mwah*mwah*

[@francesglover]

Can you teach me to be a gigolo BTF?? I need a crash course if I am going to catch up!!!! *blushes at her innocence*

[@francesglover]

Oh no, it was just me and Doris sweetheart, a surprise from sunshine!! Had to get out of jacuzzi ones skin was becoming wrinkled!!! *blushes* *ruffles hair* how is sweetheart this evening.....late there isn't it??? *looks concerned*

[@francesglover]

Thank you for sending it to me sunshine, love ya for it.....*ooooh pumpkin looks at the tiny bottle of whiskey that was included in the box* *thinks, nice thoughts* *sits here looking at the bottle* *jumps on sunshine and pins her up against wall and plants a huge sloppy kiss* *blushes* *stops herself from opening bottle* way to early for *hic* *blushes*

[@francesglover]

*offers to rub aftersun into sunshines skin* *puts loving arm around sunshine* kisses top of her raven black hair* LMAO does pumpkin need to put her glasses on??? *giggles*slap*

[@francesglover]

*pops out of closet *wink*wink* *slaps both sweetheart and sunshine* *runs*

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin listening to soundtrack from musical Wicked so feeling emotional* *sniff* *SLAPS sunshine* *pumpkin thinks sunshine right* * new mantra......*ex NUN see, sooooo innocent is pumpkin........*blushes* pumpkin needs teaching *blushes*

[@cincygurl]

LOL totally agree...I will say though, I was concentrating a bit more on those legs ;)

[@amidola]

Alright those of you still obsessed, go to yodaluver's channel and do yourself the favor of downloading and watching the whole episode.I've never said that before, btw.:-) Those of you angry;I suggest you do,too.Maybe it will heal some of that emnity you feel. Now, I'm really worried.PBP Thread isn't up either, yet. Hope everything's ok...

[@Guraslananscealai]

who has turned their back? we are still watching. but the beauty of the story was in it's integrity, and no matter how they now resolve this issue it lacks integrity.

[@francesglover]

OUCH that one hurt *blushes* *looks innocently at everyone* yep sweetheart was just ironing out my wrinkles o_O

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin does as she is instructed.....* *thud* ouch now my nose is bleeding o~o *Sob*

[@Skellfanton]

Nobra200, you got me thinking (again)... Perhaps the double standard is the writers' way of showing the polarization between 'gay' and 'straight' that simple-minded America wants to propagate? We, on this board, can recognize the inequity, sure, because we are empathetic and understanding, but maybe this is to enlighten others who are not so simple-minded and more apt to accept differences in organisms?

[@lambkelly]

I know because I spoke with Frank ... I was the one who handed Frank his Dolls beer!

[@lavinleitrim]

chi-town? in ireland its 04:09 a.m.... and im stalking the place too! lol!

[@cheryltaylor12]

Ok, If that was a pitch for moving to Springfield, you can count me out. I don't want to move there, that sounds like a horrible place. Can't I protest? Lambkelly started this, I was just investigating the possibility that she remembered something I forgot. Erikatica, don't feel bad, I don't think I was consulted either, I was lambkellyed like a game of tag, although, I think I liked it.

[@favauntie]

real life amidola, i c a n vaguely remember something like that. your'e off to bed. where are u in this great big wonderful world. im in chi-town, and at the moment it is 9:47 pm. so i will be up trolling the boards for at least several more hours. i'm a worrier too, but i'm sure there is happy reason Otaliafan is not here for us yet.

[@Skellfanton]

At the very beginning I could sympathize with Rafe. I could put myself in his shoes and try to imagine my mom getting on with her life without my dad after only a little over a year since his death. But with Rafe it was never about that. He just can't stand Olivia and now I wonder...If it were any woman, other than Olivia, would Rafe still be having such a problem with it? Nobra200, I need your encyclopedic input here.

[@francesglover]

*hic* *pumpkin is 'merry just at the thought of that lovely taste of cinnamon and gold flakes running down her throat* *thud* *thinks sunshine is right it is too early* *fan me sunshine I feel hot and bothered* *blushes* *watches the ladies 1/4 finals in tennis* *smiles*Poke*tickle*kiss*

[@francesglover]

oooooh CSI Miami....*blushes* sorry sunshine I got distracted....ok um, well...............I'm way too shy *blushes* *ahem*

[@francesglover]

pumpkin can not tell you what is in there it a surprise!!!! *tries 'it' on, ooooooh fits nice *wink*wink* *goes to take pic* &%^$£*& camera not working!!! *did not forget chocolate *blushes*

[@francesglover]

never say chicken soup to a vegetarian LMAO *joking* *blushes*

[@favauntie]

damn, sbshan8 what issue did u read that shit in, 2years ago????? that sounds like what was written when they first started

[@francesglover]

woohoo!!! *gets on broomstick to join sunshine*

[@Skellfanton]

Even on the show people (Fr. Ray) are suggesting that it the *being* with Olivia that's making Nat sick, when it really just their unfair and hypocritical judgments. Treat Nat like the wonderful human being that she is and accept her and he direction in life and all will be well.

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin can not stay mad at sunshine for long* can I have some litchi, I love that fruit *thinks they are yummy* *glad eye* sorry I did not return your call I left my phone at home *blushes*

[@francesglover]

*slaps self* thank you Doris......I would never have met sunshine had it not been for you *blushes* can I have the purple glove to keep?? It will remind me of the first time you slapped me round the face!!! ROFL o_O

[@francesglover]

that is ok, I like red, suits me better than green ;-) *giggles*

[@amidola]

BTW, I am getting the notion, that Nat is not really pregnant.Too little ado about it.Too much room for mishaps.(I can actually see why Phillip would fly halfway across the country for some decent treatment...that's not a hospital but a tiki hut!) They just needed an angsty reason for JL to go on maternity leave, and just looved the "wondering if I am pregnant" idea with a nine months along JL.I'm not in denial or in disbelief.That is just the feeling I get from the last few eps.

[@francesglover]

*blushes, picks up muffin, hands it to sunshine to be converted into bomb* *kisses sunshine where muffin landed* Ooooooh knock at pumpkins door....*takes goldschlarger off the nice man* woohoo!!!!! *jumps up and down* *kisses sunshine*

[@buzzmoz]

Gotta love a happy ending

[@lambkelly]

Ladies , Doris and I have 2 major things in common: 1- She is a big lesbian 2- she eats with the right utensils!!!!!! I just can't stand bad table manners!!!!:)

[@francesglover]

o_O *tickles sunshine, tries to cheer her up* You have lovely brown eyes and jet black hair too *laughs* *ahem* *shocked* you think I watch tennis to see ladies underwear?????? *blushes* you know pumpkin is a true lady!!!! *slap*SLAP*slap* *walks off in disgust* *humph*

[@lambkelly]

I will never stop waiting!!!!!! LIV< LIV where are you

[@francesglover]

*pumpkin sorry she forgot to send batteries with surprise* *sends them now* *wink*wink*

[@francesglover]

*sunshine can give me a massage for a change* *wink*wink* *then when I have a shower you and Doris can wash my back* blushes* *hurry up and fix the tv* *taps foot* *poke* *sticks tongue out wiggling it* Blushes*slap*

[@francesglover]

oh that is what they call it now 'studying' o_o I had better keep studying with my 10 lovelies then *blushes* *wink*wink*slap*tickle*poke*ruffles hair*flicks nose*nips cheeks*kisses forehead* Pimpkin hops back onto wall with glass of champers in hand for Doris*

[@Phototropic00]

Ok, I'm Christian and I just want to point out that Rafe violated one of the ten commandments, an yet his mother still loved him and stood by him. So, kid, grow up already and perhaps do some Biblical research.