the missed potential of cyno: a character study

[@justapotato1176]

waiting for the day genshin stops gatekeeping lore behind limited events 🙏🙏🙏

[@MrPenetroso]

Hehe

[@riotangel4701]

They need to make those old event quests downloadable for people to play through then delete.

[@seeexy]

​@@riotangel4701 yeahh

[@yvindvego9404]

not only lore, but character moments and character development. most of the characters in the game dont even exist in the world, outside of a single side quest or 2. meanwhile there are hours of character interractions and development in limited time events. like how can hu tao be such a prominent character, yet she dont exist in the game outside her quest. i think thats why genshins story is so bad/boring for many players, we have essentially missed out on half the character moments and only barely get to know a handful of them. newer players dont haev time to get to know most characters because the story throw them out so fast. is it too much to ask to just be able to see fischl in the game (outside of that one card game quest)

[@L17_8]

Jesus loves you ❤️ please turn to him and repent before it's too late. The end times described in the Bible are already happening in the world.

[@maxuelmiranda7645]

The use of Cyno and Dehya in Sumeru archon quest left a lot to be desire in my opinion compared to Alhaitham and Nilou. The scene where the hermits were going to sacrifice Dehya's arm for me was WTF

[@Rosy345c]

I wouldn't say Nilou's because once again, her quest wasn't about HER it's about a random npc we would never see. And we bearly get to know anything about Nilou besides "she helps people".

[@racool911]

@@Rosy345cDidn't we have to help her win a debate or something. Makes sense since her whole character is defending the importance of the arts in an academic environment

[@Rosy345c]

@@racool911 That was a petty Father and Daughter argument. The theater was never at risk.

[@racool911]

@@Rosy345c I think the father genuinely wanted to close the theater down. Nilou convinced him otherwise, and then helped the father and daughter talk it out

[@unapersonav1522]

​@@Rosy345cThe quest isn't about her and that's the point. Nilou isn't a researcher nor a super significant person in Sumeru, yet the whole point of her quest is that she is still as important as a warrior like Cyno or a researcher like Alhaitham without having to be like them. It also showed us more about her. The theater is her family, so she is prepared to ridicule herself or put her integrity at risk for a member of her family. It wasn't just a random npc for her.

[@StreamKArt]

if they give Cyno the Albedo treatment i will cry, so many of my favorite characters are put on the back burner, either cause they're not relevant or not relevant yet. what are you afraid of, hyv? give me my men and their stories damn it!

[@ussinussinongawd516]

um its probably because nobody wants them ( hoyo gave them bad kits )

[@StreamKArt]

@@ussinussinongawd516 depends on how you use them and if they fit your playstyle. I use both consistently and they're really good, even at c0. At least Cyno does, I can't say for Albedo cause I immediately went for his c2 simply cause I like him as a character. Not too heavy investment either. Both are on my two strongest teams. Besides, that doesn't matter when it comes to if they get story reliance or not. Albedo appeared in several events, but only ran a few times so far. Cyno was in most of the main story, yet only has run once or twice. Their kits don't matter to story relevancy, which clearly Albedo does for most Khenrai'ah, Alice, and Rheindotter stuff at the least. Not every character has to be meta to be story relevant, or even liked. I mean, look at Dehya, Xinyan, Thoma, and others that have worse kits than Albedo and Cyno. Even they have enough followings for hyv to bring them back around often enough, even if just in events. Meanwhile, some characters with strong kits, like Sucrose, Heizou, and Ayato, have barely even appeared in events, let alone main story

[@cozyhannah2]

i do find it so weird that we have so little cyno lore with how much hoyo clearly love him and how much they tend to love flaunting charater backstories even if its in limited events. its clear that they have his lore planned out so why withhold it for so long after he has been released??? my best guess would be that it will come with natlan since the new fontaine npc in sumeru city confirmed that natlan borders on the sumeru desert but that seems like an oddly long time to withhold his lore for???

[@yaeismybeloved]

Im quite mad that Yoimiya got a 2nd story quest instead of other characters who have way deeper lore that wasnt investigated

[@MrPenetroso]

As she should.

[@flfyflffoou4170]

THERES NOT A SECOND VENTI QUEST HES AN ARCHON COME ONN

[@cyliiindre]

​​@@flfyflffoou4170thats just a silly theory me and my friend have but I think his 2nd story quest will be at the very end of the game because Venti is actually really important in the lore. His connection with the goddess of time, the big statue pointing at the abyss with written "the getaway to Celestia" or smth, the anemo statue of the seven upside down during a dainsielf quest... He's pretty mysterious so I would understand why his story quest would be gatekeeped until the climax of the lore.

[@gentlemouse102]

@@sem_reAnd the fact that her 1st story quest was already good enough, and 2nd one was not needed.

[@loveticons]

its i ate my grandma!

[@nnaa6934]

Me with cyno: he's so cute he's such a dork Also me: WHERE'S THE TEMPLE OF SILENCE LORE!!!!!!!!!!!! Also why does Alhaitham's outfit description mention temple of silence. Who are they.

[@creativemind2942]

I also thought we get Temple of Silence lore in patchb 3.4/ 3.6.… waw disappointed :(

[@kingalex105x7]

secret society perhaps?

[@Rye_Smile]

And now we finally have that sweet sweet Temple of Silence lore!!

[@Angrycatemoji]

Ilysm, this is literally the first cyno character breakdown i think, ever. (He deserves so much more hes just treated as a joke in the fandom😭)

[@seeexy]

💚💜

[@Welcome31538]

FR!😢❤

[@citicomvee]

I still want to know why Cyno looks like King DeshretT.T I mean they literally showed it in the archonquest and Cyno got thoughtful about it, but they never mentioned it again or got any deeper to it, which is such a shame, because i am sure that there is a very deeeeep secret behind him, which is also why they dont give any further information about his background storyT.T But it's like that with sooooo much Details Genshin mentions.... Such as Kaeya and the Abyss or even why Alhaitham lets Kaveh stay in his house, if everyone keeps saying he is cold and only do things our of rationality, but letting someone stay at your house isn't a rational thing... i REALLY would like to know why it happened. And i am also disappointed about Nilous character quest, like you werent even able to fight with her, except against a few cats and all of her quest was just running around the basar. That was such a waste of time and i feel so sorry for Nilou, she deserved better...

[@turtleismyreligion879]

It wasn't king deshret who you mentioned Cyno looked similar to. That was priest Kasala, one of King deshret's faithful priests.

[@citicomvee]

@@turtleismyreligion879 oooh thank you

[@assssaaasasass]

You confused the character that looked like Cyno but I get you, when I was watching my brother play this part I was like "why he looks like him? Are you really gonna drop this and ignore?!"

[@UmDevoto]

And thays why i think hoyo made it like this on purpose so when the game will be at the end or in bad times they will finally drop some event about topics like this

[@beidousimpd5309]

That’s kinda racist bro not gonna lie

[@official_girlfailure]

the fact that they have reduced his character to the poster boy of genius invocation TCG makes me physically sick

[@AceAyasaki]

Cyno is my first ever triple crowned main and has been my favorite ever since the webtoon, I spent heavily for Cyno because I love his character so much. from the white tassel to deathmatch and finally Staff of the scarlet sands, Pulling for Nahida and her cons alongside pulling for Yelan and Baizhu because of their amazing synergy with Cyno just so I can have fun playing him. as an Artist and Lore addict, I've studied all his available lore, character designs and things that might connect with him, still grinding the thundering fury strongbox for 10 months now with no luck just to get even a significantly better set for him alone. planning on pulling for his constellations too in the future. Alongside this, I also enjoy maining Tighnari and their Dynamic is always so fun! he also made me enjoy the TCG because of how he interacts with it, His Eng VA is fun to watch too so the mix of his fun playstyle, great character design, awesome personality and pun-ny jokes between him and his Eng VA, I can't help but love this short general Mahamatra. Fun fact: Cyno's design isn't only based on Anubis the god of Judgement of souls, he is also based a little bit from Seth, the God of Storms, solidifying his character's just personality with focus as strong as steel but also makes it make sense that he is electro from Seth who "wants to change and challenge reality" portrayed by him wanting to make a better change fir the people of Sumeru and to guide them to a path of knowledge without sacrificing their morality or breaking the law.

[@ms.pirate]

*Update: Cyno is getting lore in an permanent story quest 2*

[@caparashon]

Thank you SO MUCH for making this video! I watched your Xiao video a while ago so it amuses me that you also analyzed Cyno, since I main them both and I live in sadness. I agree with everything you just said, the fact we don't have any solid lore on Hermanubis or the Temple of Silence or the experiments the Akademiya were planning to do to him before Cyrus stopped them... I would've preferred some of that in the first or second desert areas and less of the Gurabad clusterfuck with bottled Liloupar, for instance. Hell, they even tease us with Cyno saying in a voiceline that he'd gladly tell us about the spirit possessing him, and then... He doesn't lol 😢 I really liked that in the TCG event, he was starting to blend his two facets around us. He was in work mode as general mahamatra Cyno, but still cracked a couple of puns in front of Kirara and Charlotte, and also being extra when talking about the TCG championship. It was nice to see him serious and moral in an event, where normally it's clown mode for his writing, but comfortable enough around us to bleed some of the silliness. Also, don't you think it's curious how every region has a short king with limited event locked lore/development? Mondstadt has Albedo (the two infamous Dragonspine Christmases plus character progression in any cameo), Inazuma has Kazuha (all his and his family's backstory is in two events), Liyue has Xiao (tbf the chasm quest might be permanent but Liyue festivals are his progression as a character). Cyno really seems to be the Sumeru member of the four horsemanlets of the loregating

[@strawcold]

I still like to headcanon that the reason why he was immediately so jokey around Kirara and Charlotte, while he should have switched into work mode when they were discussing strategy and signals, is that he's giddy from both winning the tournament and seeing the traveler again.

[@Matsuokaei]

we are currently in 4.5 and apparently cyno will be having a second story in 4.6

[@SHGogo-df5jr]

I think the disonance of work-Cyno and TCG nerd-Cyno is funny. Super endearing, I love watching Tighnari contemplate murder over his awful, awful jokes :3

[@BTLGRLno9]

There was that animated short (that Hoyoverse is using as an ad for Genshin Impact now) with the Sumeru characters as Egyptian gods that seems like the most explanation for why Cyno summons the Pathclearer, which is unfortunate because while it LOOKS awesome, it doesn't actually explain much

[@strawcold]

It was fanmade though, so it can't be trusted much as a source of Cyno lore. It doesn't have to be canon for Hoyo to use it as an ad because what's important is it gets people's attention.

[@maryshen1418]

FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT. I was just complaining about how neglected Cyno has been for such an anticipated character. He didn't seem as widely-liked before Hoyo started playing more on his jokester side (or maybe I'm just biased since he's my favorite), but his serious side contains so much depth. I would LOVE to see him in a Fontainian event, as unlikely as that would be, because of his views on justice. NOT THAT I don't love his punniness though. The fact that he makes jokes to make other people relax is such a charming aspect of his personality, despite its complete ineffectiveness. I don't see Hoyo really changing their limited-event habits anytime soon, in regards to character lore. Now I don't understand why they made, say, Albedo's special quest limited while making the Shenhe quest permanent (because we can all agree Shenhe probably isn't as popular as Albedo). But characters like Kazuha and Xiao who played much more important roles in main story quests are fan favorites. From what I can tell, the only reason Cyno would be considered a fan favorite would be for his humor, not for his entire character. (The great travesty. Ugh.) Cyno is absolutely one of the most slept-on characters in this game, and that is saying a lot, lol. But then again... I'm probably biased. On the bright side, though? The Sumeru archon quest did him so well! I love that he wasn't as static as most characters usually are.

[@yunqb1519]

I'm absolutely obsessed with cyno and analysed every possible lore hint regarding him and you summerized my thoughts so well because at this point I'm also grasping at straws and even the little we know is soooo interesting about him, he's connected to the desert AND sumeru city he's a middle man with the past and present as well given he has an ancient spirit in him who was directly under deshret (lay of al-ahmar) theres also so much of him showing his upbringing him being discriminated as a desert dweller while he was growing up in the akademiye and so so much more. also some people analysed his manga appearance and pointed out that he's using some type of modified abyss magic (probably taught by the temple of silence since they watch over anything khaenriah related as we find out on a random note in the middle of the desert)

[@Angrycatemoji]

Btw! In kavehs hangout event we get to “meet” cyrus, not in person but through dialogue(which was 2-3 lines) but still!!

[@thanksglowingcoral2843]

I think Genshin is simply very slow burn in terms of storytelling because they want to develop deeply in both the world and its many characters. I see Cyno's portrayal in the Sumeru patches as their way to give us a solid foundation of who he is personally before introducing his role in the overarching plot of "rebelling against Celestia", "uncovering the truth of this world" etc etc. Don't forget how we have all those reincarnation theories because they gave us the world quests for us to get to know Deshret, Nabu Malikata and [Redacted] and how the desert people, who once had numerous thriving and powerful civilisations, came to the point where they have become oppressed by the Akademiya. Now Cyno is one of the leaders with Setaria spearheading efforts to educate their people and close the divisions between the desert and rainforest and they have taken small steps to show that they have concrete plans on improvement. Even when not introduced in a linear fashion there is still a sense of timeline and progression. This all to say that I disagree with the notion that Cyno has "missed potential", because HoYo has clearly hinted that they do have something in store about him, they simply want us to go through Fontaine first because they want to provide additional context before bringing the story back to him (and the rest of Sumeru). It's like saying because Kaveh hasn't had any meaningful appearance in any archon quests he's going to be irrelevant in the long run when one look at the amount of effort they put into him already signals that he's going to be important in the future (and I think they've already sown the seeds for it). I do understand the frustration that the Temple of Silence is only mentioned in Cyno's profile, one piece of paper in the desert and an optional conversation with Lisa but Kaveh's hangout has a Cyrus cameo (even if he doesn't appear on screen). There's also so much focus on the Sumeru boys being their fathers 2.0 and that speech by Sachin about how he thinks humanity is doomed to destruction see just adds more to the "history is cyclical" theme they have going on but in the same way Dottore brought up the fake sky since Scara first introduced the concept in version 1.1 I strongly believe that they will bring it up again in an archon quest so that that easily missed piece of lore will be well known to all this time, perhaps in a more dramatic fashion than just Cyno talking to Lisa about it (and hopefully we'll see Cyrus on screen too).

[@alicenightray5901]

But there's so many loose ends it seems that they won't be able to explore all of it in time xD we get more characters with each region and updates and yet there are those old ones that have not been explored... I mean shown or explained, because Hoyo for sure has their lore prepared, it's just hard to imagine how are we gonna learn all that... Unless more text and events :

[@terrahatvol7960]

omg just everything you said I agree with. One of the reasons I love Sumeru so much is how much they fleshed out characters, even NPCs like Dunyarzard, whom I liked more than Dehya until her story quest (then disliked again cuz of her kit and addition to the normal roster). Cyno is the absolute pinnacle of that, and honestly a lot of characters still have a lot hidden about their past. I think we technically know the most about Nahida and Collei (from the comic) but then I want to know more about Cyno and Kaveh and Tighnari so much! And also agree about the whole locking lore behind limited events. I know nothing of about Albedo bc of the limited event and only learned from fanfiction, which is honestly where I've probably learned most of my lore at this point since Genshin doesn't like to easily share that. Also I'm with Nahida and genuinely love his puns and how drastically different he is between work and among friends, honestly seems to demonstrate he can actually balance work life unlike other scholars in Sumeru.

[@nicks.857]

Very adorable video. I want more people to talk about the characters of genshin impact outside of meta and theory crafting. The stories and characters are where Genshin really shines.

[@katk3521]

I love how the sumeru cast interacts with each other but sometimes it makes the cast feel so much smaller and like a friend group instead of diffrent people with visions in sumeru

[@thechaosofcaffeine]

and this is exactly why i'm still reading cyno-centric fanfiction XD

[@MikhoffeeTime]

Your pronuntiation of Tighnari is so pleasing! As always great video!

[@seeexy]

💚💜yus

[@politiqueen420]

teeheenari

[@daviddebroux4708]

"And they became... besties!" They became.... *beasties.*

[@TravellerZasha]

As someone who not only was hyped for Cyno ever since day one, mained him until Kaveh and Lyney/Lynette, still uses his character banner, and have studied him obsessively to write many, many fanfictions I believe Cyno has so much potential that Hoyo likes to gatekeep for no reason almost to a strange level. I've literally written fanfiction because Hoyo won't have Cyno and Razor meet. I'm still upset about it. I liked Cyno's quest because to me it shows the relationship between a student and their teacher/partner and the possible fear that Cyno has. That he'll live long enough to become corrupt like his old teacher/partner. By the end he is aware that he won't stay young forever and hopes that he can stay moral right even as he gets older (which also i'm not sure if he also has broken a few laws). But I agree for his story quest he should've had like some lore explanation on his past or at least Hermanubis because like even he says he's okay with sharing it! Heck they could've had more with Cyrus or even themes of Cyno being the few brown skined desert people to be in the Akademiya. It may be copium but i've heard rumors from leaks that we'll be getting a mummy girl and i'm praying this will explain some of Cyno's lore, if not i'm switching my character banners to Lyney.

[@shadowclaw7210]

Can I get link on your fics?

[@amayas4516]

Drop the fanfiction

[@supremenugget5433]

There is just so much missing from him and it annoys me like they really need to make more hangout quests or something because it's just so sad to see that this character is still as mysterious as ever I was so hyped for him and got everything he needed,my favorite character in genshin I just really hope they touch up on his lore more

[@anonymousanonymous6045]

My husband is a huge Cyno fan he knows all his lore and I was confused where he got his back story from because it wasnt in the archon quest 😂😅

[@Springtrapsekitten]

this is EXACTLY what im saying hes so pookie and we have so much goin on but still no cyno lore ☹️

[@jthepj108]

You're a hidden gem of a content creator, subscribed! Now going to watch all your videos🤭

[@alec__]

I feel like the fact that Cyno interacts with a lot of people is already a bonus point compared to some other characters because it allows us to witness the different shades of his personnality without it being overshadowed by Traveler's importance and know I know I should finish a video before writing a comment because that's what you literally said later T_T

[@L1LL1ePaD]

im thinking cyno will have something to do with another region that'll be worth the wait to build even more onto what he and who he is- but of course, I could be wrong

[@pit2559]

Cyno's interaction with collei really give me the vibes of a step-parent trying to build a closer relationship with their step child

[@bighat8794]

I loved sumeru and the sumeru cast is overall the most well written imo, I cant wait to learn more about them in futur events. I also think every 5starts (at least) should get 2 quests, thats where they shine the most. (Also where is my Candace hang out 😠)

[@JustSandy_]

He doesnt need lore when he is the best character in the goddamn game 🗣️🔥

[@pedroaugusto-hh5kd]

Cyno got a story arc II

[@sbagas8369]

The best theory i found about cyno's design is how he, alhaitham, and kaveh are sort of a foil to King Deshret, just different aspect of him split into three while also simultaneously reflecting the priest of deshret. It's so cool seeing the 3 of them basically sharing one blue print but with much accentuated personality trait that represents deshret. Sadly, this remains mostly theory because as you said, 6 desert expansion and 0 cyno lore. What a wasted potential. I don't even blame the players for mischaracterizing him because every events with him was just him being a dork.

[@happipandas]

i pray everynight that cyno gets a 2nd story quest

[@kurloveskitties8667]

PLEASE KEEP TALKING! NEVER STOP TALKING!! i have watched every single one of your videos and as a very avid genshin AND video essay enjoyer i am absolutely loving everything uve got to say Im so happy i found ur channel!!!

[@amberxv4777]

I'm pretty sure his lore will come later because of that priest in the cutscene that has the same outfit and we don't know what's the relevance. but... You are right. It was the perfect time to get his lore during the Sumeru archon quest hype. Or in his story quest. And it is missed potential

[@IDontKnowWhatToPutOg]

Sumeru lore was so interesting, I’d love to see more abt the past era, the goddess of flowers, king deshert, etc. and more abt Sumeru characters overall

[@manialler]

on his second story quest, we dig into more detail of what the temple of silence is, how it was founded and how cynos related to it but we dont get an explanation on how its connected to khaenri'ah, we also dont really have a full image of his backstory we can only get ideas from what it was mentioned, we also dont get a full explanation behind his powers that was specifically shown in the manga. and on top of that we never knew where he was exactly from even after unlocking the entirety of the desert. his family and etc. sounds to me that theyre still gate keeping stuff

[@Tealez.27]

sounds like cyno story quest III for me hehe

[@Angelcakeszee]

Cyno is one of my favorite Sumeru characters and I love the video you made about him! I would love to see more videos about the other Sumeru characters, like Tighnari and Collei, or anyone in general. Even characters from other regions as your videos are fun to listen to. The Sumeru archon was a lot of fun and character interactions are something I love to see in storytelling when it comes to any form of media. I do wish Hoyoverse would stop gatekeeping character lore or world lore behind special events though. I didn't start playing Genshin until May of 2023 so I even missed the Windblume event that was this year.

[@l1zziebear]

Guesss whatttt :]]]

[@javelinmaster2]

And the worst part is that I only came back when Fontaine got out...... so I missed Cyno's interactions......

[@slytherinlady3907]

leaks (not story related) still, scroll past if you don’t wanna see -leaked sumeru character, appears to be from the desert -missing cyno lore -cyno rerun 4.2 -every other region has an event in the “secondary” area (dragonspine, chasm, enka) desert event copium

[@ShelbyLikesStuff]

4:44 And they were best friends :)

[@Wolf-vy7et]

Doesn't he have deshret polearm ?? Like is there lore about how he got this weapon, also i'm curious about his lore obviously especially his spirit and the temple of silence, for Hermanubis i think that it was either a sage of Deshret or less chances but a Jinn and if it's not that then it's at least related to them because i don't see what it could be other than theses two options, however for the temple of silence i literally have no idea, like it's so random and why the hell would the grand sage obey them without questions ? It can be answered easly but until we get more informations about it and rn it just feels out of place in Sumeru lore . I was also intrigued like you by his reaction to Kasala's cutscene where it show deshret's sacrifice, Kasala looks exactly like Cyno but with brown hair as we see see in the cutscene, idk what it's supposed to mean but kinda sad we still don't have an explanation for it, i know it's a long ass comment but it's just my thoughts.

[@doom9564]

noo I watched all of your videos already 😭😭 I'm devastated

[@cynolover]

I am SO SO SO mad that they still havent given him his lore 😭

[@jordanlopez3034]

officially binged all your videos and you're now my fave genshin youtuber...please keep up the awesome videos! they're so unique and refreshing

[@trickmonster7905]

:D Well this is finally gonna change

[@Kaison__]

I've heard he will get his second story quest really soon (praying to be true)🙏🙏

[@JuraHyena]

FINALLY IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE THIS VIDEO FOR AGESSSSS

[@Sarah-iq3sc]

I hope he gets Xiao treatment instead of Albedo treatment. ARCHON QUEST INTERLUDE TEMPLE OF SILENCE WHEN

[@ochayta]

Thanks for pointing out sumeru poster boy's potential!! Now I'm excited for future sumeru stuff more than ever

[@simrann-x5g]

OMG THE WAY YOU SAY TIGHNARI NAME PROPERLY AUGHGGGHHHHHHH ILYSM 😍😍😍😍🤩😁😁

[@nightkelm9552]

I feel like the reason why we haven’t been given much in game lore on him is because we have yet to get there, like there a TON of things that have been teased that may happen after the traveler gets to snezneya, in the teyvat travail trailer thing, we see that the final acts number has been covered, so perhaps a lot of things will happen before we get there, like the burning of Irmunsil, Albedos lore, now it’s been revealed that Kaeya has a direct connection to the abyss, Diluc vs Kaeya? Hello potential hidden harbinger? Collei reawakening the archon residue perhaps? Which will lead into Cyno stopping her? Wanderer vs. Dottore? Now that we know non archons can have 2nd story quests, perhaps we will get more info and lore depending on how lore relevant they are, that’s how it works for the archons, the most lore relevant playable characters. I’m hoping we get more lore to Cyno since we have been getting some hints here and there. PLEASE GIVE US ANOTHER SUMERU QUEST INVOLVING CYNOS LORE HOYO But yeah, I’m still a little upset we aren’t getting much lore on him, other than the character card thing.

[@hopepierrot5893]

As a player who only started lately playing but got all their knowledge about lore from watching videos I am very sad I missed all these events. I'm currently finishing Inazuma and moving onto Sumeru soon but I wanted to see Mr. Hat Guy 😭

[@SophieHatterLeFay]

I'm just putting this together now, but Alhaitham and Cyno definitely knew each other prior to the archon quest. I don't know why but the archon quests in particular always gives me this feeling that people are meeting, or even being introduced to each other, the very first time in front of traveler-san. but like, these people are in a friends group, they probably have a group bar tab, Alhaitham and Cyno work in the same building!!! of course they know each other!

[@strawcold]

Actually I think the friend group only got established after the archon quest. From what I can recall the timeline is more like: - Kaveh and Alhaitham meet - Cyno stalks Tighnari for a while - Cyno and Tighnari officially meet after Cyno brings Collei back to Sumeru - Tighnari helps Kaveh out and gains Alhaitham's respect - Kaveh gets introduced to Cyno (we know this had been going on for a while since Cyno then developed a habit of bringing Kaveh over to have dinner at Gandharva Ville) - Archon Quest happens and Cyno and Alhaitham were forced to actually talk to each other - Alhaitham's character story 2 says that thanks to the time spent in the AQ, and Nahida's constant invitations of the rescue mission's participants, Alhaitham has been seeing them more often and had more or less become friends with them - Alhaitham joins the friend group now that there isn't much animosity between him and Cyno It isn't too unbelievable that Haitham and Cyno barely spoke to each other beforehand. They're not exactly very social and would rather focus on their work. Alhaitham did mention that they spoke before, but just not that much, and it's most likely for work stuff. Even Kaveh didn't befriend Cyno until Tighnari had to introduce them to each other.

[@mofthemoth5755]

I just discovered your channel. Love your analysis

[@jadelan9549]

Thank you omg I love cyno and I wholeheartedly agree with your points

[@kingalex105x7]

hopefully we get a cyno interlude

[@luckygames8049]

Nah this channel is just way to underated for the effort this women puts in her videos this probably took a long time to make pls get her to like 100k or 50k and give her more views that would make me very happy

[@hopes_peak_akademie__6646]

The little click sound for transitions always scratches my brain in a good way

[@AA-cf4es]

Your channel is seriously underrated

[@gabrieldartemius9940]

I might get attacked for this but I have a big problem with Cyno: his visual design doesn't go with his reputation. Countless people say that he's intimidating even if you don't know about him, that he's visually dangerous, that you take a look at him and gulp in fear and... he's just a 5 foot kid. Like, I like his design no problem, it's just his boyish looks that make me mad. Where are his scars? Why is his design so clean? If you know nothing about him you would thing he's some kind of Anubis priest almost. He doesn't look dangerous, he looks like a kid that wants to look dangerous. I felt such a disonance each time someone told me about him and then thinking about his actual appearance. Some muscles would help no doubt, I get the feeling the clothes he wears are meant for an adult version of him and would work way better that way. But in general he has a kiddyish design: his eyes are big, he has no muscles, he wears skin tight clothes that leave him looking even skinnier. He just doesn't have the presence he should. I feel like a cape would help and definitely more weight to his armor, smaller eyes and in general a more adult look. For goodness sake, he looks older in official illustrations! Just look for the "Trial of the Scorching Sands" Web Event illustration. @moonlightbasket did a really cool redesign in twitter you can look for, though he looks like a priest he does look older and more dangerous. And the slight redesign by @waternaeng on twitter is just *chef's kiss* Also, his design takes away from the shock of how much a dork he is, in my opinion :( And he doesn't look like he's grown at all since the webcomic, unlike Collei, which is sad :(

[@nookpurin]

that’s honestly also just a problem w the short male character models. i understand not all adults r tall and i actually like the idea that cyno is rather short, but w/ a muscular build… but that height category is sooo disjointed, how are characters like mika and freminet using the same model w the same build as characters like cyno and xiao, who are obviously older adults (ik xiao is hundreds of years old) & are incredible warriors??? they refuse to put muscle on any short male characters, they’ve started doing it to the tall ones finally w alhaitham but it’s honestly sad that the fucking scholar who can fight but chooses not to is buffer than the literal general & arguably strongest fighter in all of sumeru 💀 cyno can be a short king but man, i agree, give him some abs and muscle definition at least!

[@gabrieldartemius9940]

@@nookpurin YES

[@BellBOYd128]

Cyno only needs one thing to be relevant for me…. Thank you EN VA: “But… it’s limited edition.”

[@leeonshyam4704]

When Lisa was in the dialogue....I thought a different Lisa but eeh yoh she....ok and the part Lisa clicking photos is something even my mum did in her student days and for some reason this cheeky details made it so wholesome 😊 my fav for now

[@redwolfteam321]

(I'll have a long one, and please bare with my misspells, or wierd wordings, i try my best ^ ^) As i know Mihoyo from what i experienced in the past ~1 year i play this game, they'll likely expend his lore in events, just so the playable character can stay the same way (i don't know if you get what i want to say). And this just hurts my heart is so many ways as an amatour story writher and comic drawer. I get it, with such a rich cast of characters, peronalities, it's hard to individualy expend each character's stories, like...hack, Scara's story was so stretched out throu the versions that's just crazy! And that's the whole reason i don't think the issue lies in the quantity of the characters. It lies, i believe, in the system of the game as a gacha game. Characters are bound to be static, so, for exaple, the Diluc i pulled in 2020, won't be different to the one that someone else pull in 2023. They remain the same, and the growth of the characters could be experienced throu...the limited events. I just...i really love Genshin's story, it gave me so much insiration to my own works, but this is one big flaw that does't seem to be fixable. And it's just sad. I remember when 3.4's Lantern Rite came, i was so hyped, but the same time, it felt wierd. And then i looked up for past Lantern Rites, and i sudenly understood why. The Xiao, i saw in the Chasm quest, and the Xiao i saw at 3.4 Lantern Rite...were like day and night. It felt wierd, becouse i did'nt had the chance to experience the past L.R.s, 'couse i did'nt played back then. My favorite characters are Tighnari and Xiao (yeah, the total opposites) and i fell fox the lader's character during the Chasm quest. Then harder when the trailer dropped for the 3.4 rerun. And the hardest during the event. And it's just hurts to see that Hoyo doing this with soo many more characters. Albedo, Candace, Cyno, just to name a few. And just like you said, lore where? Backstory where? I'm so eager to know Cyno's backstory. I'm just hungry for good story, it's the whole reason i keep playing. But the fact that Hoyo treats these informations as they do, it's just sad. And the fact that we even need to google for the offitial manga, read the lore of the million artifacts, and in-game books, like...i get it, but what if someone can't speak the language that well? For example, i'm hungarian, and the only reason i don't read the lore of the weapons and artifacts, is that it's draining. I pay attention and translate for myself in every-single-archon quest, and world quest, and events. I even go throu some character's unlockable lore that i own. But i already spend hours uppon hours of work, sweating blood and tears just to grasp a hint of the story. And i don't even want to mention the unvoiced Aranara quest line...oh dear archons above HEEELLPPP MEE... Hoyo can make so good story, but the same time wasting so much potential, in so many aspects of the game, that just really hurts.

[@Hoookstar]

Cyno has so many parallels to Egyptian mythology, I wouldn't be at all surprised if his lore is crazy

[@jo8604]

I just recently found your channel and I just really loved your videos! waiting for more!

[@Pattern_seeker202]

what a great breakdown

[@catmelstuff3711]

i did he’s story so early in the morning before school (i was doing the archon story all night) and i wasnt paying attention ngl i was so tired

[@faunaria7127]

i didn't regret pulling for him since i loved him the day i saw him in the comics, but god is he not satisfying to play with. i kinda got mad because his kit is just razor 2.0 which i find a little tacky and awkward. i don't really care much about his damage, but honestly they could've made him compete with the top dps'. he's benched at level 90 (yes, i sacrificed my sanity to get those scarabs), but i'll play him from time to time

[@blossomtato]

This video just made me solidify I love Cyno and the Sumeru quests no matter how many people complain about Sumeru. There were so many good moments in the quest and it wasn't just about the Traveller but the actual cast in Sumeru

[@olli5997]

I love cyno man I wish I got to play the events. I started playing last summer so, yeah.

[@bagirute112]

Devs actually also forgot alhaithams lore. Like they indroduced him and didnt tell anything more. You dont even know what kind of research hes doing even tho he mentions hes doing smt few times. All you know that he likes simple life and torturing Kaveh which very underwhelming considering how people speculated things about him like they do with neuvillette right now.

[@camilleshii5637]

i desperately want more cyno lore T^T PS i love your videos!

[@thetakenusername1005]

According to leaks, Cyno might get a second story quest. If that's the case, then CYNO FANS WE'RE SO BACK.

[@Idontknow-dh6es]

Which leaks

[@oh-seecreations6308]

while i 100% get the impatience for cyno lore (and so many other character lore, lbr...), the game already has a lot of characters to juggle (and due to the nature of gacha, they have to keep making more) and is trying to strike a mixture between light-hearted and lore bomb events (and sometimes even the former can suddenly turn into the latter). i honestly do think hoyoverse hasnt forgotten about the temple of silence (worldbuilding is one of genshin's main priorities after all) but you have like zero confidence in them lol. i too dislike the flanderisation of his character in light-hearted events but that happens to other characters too, like poor itto turning into a manbaby.

[@TeggoToffee]

Hearing you pronounce "tighnari" VERY wrong makes me feels so stone, like all my boby just turned into concrete

[@Aven_lover]

Yeah it's supposed to be tugh-nari or tegh-nari

[@gotamibudou]

I went back because of the leaks

[@admiral_chika6780]

This is why I’m excited for the anime they could bring justice to the story

[@agathamnena964]

That’s all nice but there’s an important part u missed. WERE ARE HIS NIPS!!!

[@blank_line]

Wow, people are so shocked that people don't only have one mood. How dare you be a complex soul with many sides to your character? I hope the genshin community and weeb community in general stops with this bs and accepts that characters in the game, just like us humans, can be interesting beings with different emotions and parts of life This is exactly why we have overworked waifu trope everywhere 🤦‍♀️ I really like your videos! Not many people talk about these issues

[@ayushmane7439]

Well guess what 😊

[@saipremk6969]

the travail trailer mentions a quest called "truth among the pages of purana" which wasn't in the actual sumeru quest, which implies we might go back to sumeru in the future. i think a little bit of his lore might be dropped there. Let's see what Hoyo will do with Cyno in the future.

[@riotangel4701]

"character interactions don't feel like it's forced" Secret Summer Paradise: Welcome!

[@identityv5843]

The only ones that weren't were between Klee and Kayea but... They already knew each other lol

[@trappedfan5206]

​@@identityv5843they all know each other except for Kokomi, wym

[@stellarmelody2784]

Even kazuha story event I don't even see it Edit : yeah he need more lore like what is this spirit what is the tide of silence temple

[@leonthomas2020]

i made a comment on a previous video about wanderer being the most hated character currently in the chinese community by a large margin but the west hadn't caught on yet. it's currently blowing up on reddit now so i'd like to ask, will we ever see a wanderer video? i'd love to hear your perspective. the thread is called 'About Wanderer's drama: a glimpse into Chinese toxic community'.

[@otsuucurry]

there will definitely be a video on Wanderer! he's such a polarizing character in the fandom so he'll definitely be one of the most fun & interesting characters to discuss :)

[@mihaitzan]

amazing video! I subbed :D

[@tribopower]

I have a theory that hoyo low-key don't like Alejandro (voice of Cyno and Jing Yuang) For some reason, they just make his characters be mid ASF for no reason...

[@slytherinlady3907]

white haired, spirit summoning, surprisingly laid back electric-type general… cyno is just mid yuan’s lil bro

[@user-biscut]

Here's hoping that his 3rd banner comes soon so we can see him in the story again.

[@Stridershin]

Xaio main here, I love Electro Xaio! But not as much as they love each other's signature 5star weapons!

[@sleepyrose69]

i will always have gripes with two things: genshin character designs, and the painful whitewashing of sumeru being disappointing to me, and the refusal of hoyoverse to sometimws deeper explore a story that has so much potential

[@marmite-land]

they're bound to revist this character anyways, seeing as there's quite the mystery concerning him and his ties with Deshret's civilisation or even Deshret himself, and it hasn't been adressed at all. What will they do once the 7/8 regions are released at the rate they're going ? They intend to keep the game alive until 2030

[@kyratries]

middle of final Khaenri’ah quest: oh btw the temple of silence!! *cue hoyoverse dropping all Cyno’s lore* honestly though, he has an actual god inside of him how has that not been addressed how has the fact he’s probably the most powerful character barring the archons not been addressed how has the fact the academiya is heavily implied to have experimented on him until Cyrus stepped in not been addressed how dare hoyoverse lock so much away behind an optional dialogue in a limited time event! there is more potential in Cyno’s pinky finger than ten other genshin characters put together I am… Great video love to see other people annoyed with this too we should all get matching jackets or something

[@spacedorito9592]

Now that I think about it, do you guys think the upcoming anime will treat all characters justice since it’s going about lore? (Not just characters)

[@anotherrandomperson9174]

tbh I just don’t think Cyno is as important as you clearly think he is??? This is probably drawn a lot from how little I enjoy his character, as his intense and serious personality discomforts me. I’m much more of a Haitham simp myself. But the lore crumbs are interesting and I wouldn’t have known, even though I played the Windblume event with him in it. Really hope his lore isn’t given the Venti treatment