Our ancestors happened to live right side of it

our ancestors happened to live right side of the wall.
#tyrion #lannister
#Benjen #stark
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[@lordswaine5238]

Yes Tyrion that's why they spent the time and resources building a 700 ft tall ice wall that's 300 miles long... Because there was nothing out of the ordinary on the other side.

[@Erfierazgzb0ss4u]

The other side contained the plot for the latest seasons of GOT

[@lordswaine5238]

@@Erfierazgzb0ss4u an excellent point 👌

[@driftertravelerman6893]

Podrick the logic

[@schnoz2372]

He didn't say there wasn't he said there isn't. World of difference.

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

C'mon, the Others build that (It's a straight rip of norse mythology). And the times had changed, things were quite for millenia, it's just that magic started to wake up again when no one expected (essentially SNK lol, another story based on Norse myths, that's why there's similar elements). The wall was useless... until it wasn't.

[@connor5070]

I love the smile when he says "but" Like "ah, yes. Someone else with an intellect, i like this guy."

[@rifter0x0000]

Reminds me of the Curb Your Enthusiasm discussion of "having said that..." which follows basically the same rule.

[@xtragedgnolf]

Funnily enough, I'm pretty sure Tyrion and Benjen in the books just don't like eachother xD

[@jamesflaherty59]

Tyrion realised he's not talking to a commoner who want to impress Lannisters like everyone else Tyrion meets, he's talking to a ex-high lord with education and a huge family history.

[@MensHominis]

It’s also great to see Tyrion in this vibe. It’s very different from his later acting, I even believe the Received Pronunciation is stronger here - but it’s not out of character. Either he’s still a whole-hearted Lannister here, like a rich snob (no matter his more subtle talks with Jon), looking down on those gritty northerners, and his façade later crumbles, or it’s all a façade to begin with: the way he liked to portray himself in public (the talk with Jon wasn’t public) until his sister and nephew and father made him stop giving a fuck.

[@revengeofthenerds4415]

Giants, Ghouls, and White Walkers were in fact lurking beyond the wall

[@RickyDurette]

lol 😂

[@travisgames6608]

Mammoths too

[@schuylerdstaats3249]

Reminder that there's weird ass cave people worshipping something eldritch sleeping in the deep earth, and it's waking up.

[@ezekielellis7471]

EXCUSE ME BUT SPOILERS!!!! lol and now that I got that lame joke out of the way, yes there were lol

[@nickmiller9910]

@@ezekielellis7471that was a joke?

[@dolphinerofachero3159]

I like that all of the Starks speak similarly, cool detail

[@lukatosic09]

Northerners in general

[@indra_vrtrahan]

Northerners after all

[@EvidentlyEezy]

Benjen is such a wasted character, he was the shows version of Coldhands and he did almost nothing until he died ex machina-ing Jon Snow.

[@travissorenson245]

so many wasted characters and arcs ruined. show should have went a few more seasons.

[@nuyabuisness7526]

I mean that's basically what happened in the books. They were on a scouting party north of the wall that got attacked by walkers, and he died to convince the wildlings to take Jon in so he'd be able to bring word of the walkers back to the kingdoms.

[@TheBarber5550]

Another wasted character was Barristan Selmy

[@salehalhajri7745]

​@@nuyabuisness7526 what ?

[@NS-xx1ze]

Waste of a great actor

[@benrogers5027]

Gutted - it started so good that the end was a dagger to the heart

[@bradleypoole4809]

That was always to happen but I think the white walkers in the show where to strong. The elite walkers I get that can only be killed by dragon glass and V steel. But to swarm the walls which also the castles where a bit to small.

[@woahblackbetty7691]

​@@bradleypoole4809 The whitewalkers had the boring trope of take out the leader = The whole army dies. The book avoids this issue because the Night king doesn't exist. They are simply the others

[@kiethhammer6882]

​@woahblackbetty7691 at least, so far as we can tell, any hints of such a being are in-universe myths that aren't confirmed. That what people don't get. Sometimes a story within a story is just a story and not something about the world.

[@ted6580]

Calm down paulie

[@aegontargaryen9322]

Couldn’t have put it better . The last series was atrocious, it’s hard to pick which part was worst .

[@yassine4990]

Benjen sounded exactly like Jon with that “you’re right”.

[@megeles]

Gotta love the continuity

[@mokajones74]

It was a great touch that Jon took up Benjen's inflections, like a boy would his father figure

[@thegreenmage6956]

I do agree, but apparently it was because ALL the Starks were specifically imitating Shaun Bean.

[@kungfuteer]

I noticed that too and saw your comment, cool.

[@SelphieTheNutter]

Not Tyrion Finest moment, he wasn't expecting Benjin to agree with him about the wildlings and it shows in his face. His humbling moment that stopped him becoming completely arrogant like his father

[@snugglecity3500]

I think tyrion actually rather liked this conversation, benjen read him like a book with that 'but' line and it was a bit confrontational which he likes.

[@happyninja42]

I mean to be fair, virtually NOBODY believed in the supernatural shit beyond the wall at that point. Tyrion isn't presenting a crazy statement, in fact he's being entirely honest and frank with Benjen. Like he said Benjen was predisposed to dislike Tyrion, and he took issue with that. Seeing as he lived his whole life with people looking down on him as a dwarf AND a Lannister, this is hardly a new thing. To Tyrion he probably thought "Ah, another arrogant tall person, who sneers at me for simply being different, and wealthier than them, despite me having done NOTHING to deserve it on a personal basis. Let's see what his issue is." And so he asked him. That's why he says "I don't know what I did to offend you." Because he hadn't done anything. He'd just existed near Benjen, and Benjen took issue with that.

[@williamrobb5945]

I think of this scene literally every time i use a sentence with the word 'but'.

[@globesurfer122]

Benjen's actor was phenomenal even with such little screen time

[@sgttoasterface5282]

When he’s laughing he actually looks like he could be brothers with Sean Bean. Not so much with characters introduced in later seasons, but the cast in season 1 were all perfectly cast

[@MickeyOphelan]

“Ain’t the wildlings giving me so many sleepless nights”

[@VaderzBane]

“Call me what you like” 😂

[@theintunity]

"Okey then Aerys Targaryen"

[@TheParkerThirteen]

The actor they got for benjen was perfection

[@glengaines4286]

Damn. At this point in the show this was the best shit I ever watched.🔥

[@nateberube7746]

The following scene is probably the first time I had seen Tyrion Speechless

[@andrewfuerst7941]

In the third episode? Shocker

[@carlanderson2110]

I would have loved to see Benjamin taking Tyrion out and showing him the Giants the Walkers and the other spooky things that lay in the North.

[@JaxLittles]

I love that Benjen and Jon have a consistent accent

[@rushij4563]

Benjin the badass

[@theintunity]

Wasted character. Needed more one-on-one time with Jon Snow.

[@servodriven]

One of the Great, early scenes of the series.

[@iphone777]

People today believe aliens helped build the pyramids. Secrets get lost and forgotten to time and in GOT there hasn’t been magic and fantasy stuff in a few centuries. Dragons were the size of house cats when the Targaryen’s fell.

[@schnoz2372]

No they werent

[@FASynergy]

​@@schnoz2372 yes they were. When Joffrey learns of Daenerys's dragons in Season 2, he demands of Tywin that the Crown reacts by hunting them down amd killing them. Tywin tells Joffrey that the skull of the last dragon of the Targaryens sat for years beside the Iron Throne, and it was no bigger than an apple. This entire fact of the history is the reasoning behind Tywin not considering Daenerys a threat before she gains multiple armies and a hige influence.

[@royalblue5367]

The last dragon died well over 100 years before the Targaryen's fell.

[@tdegrddeehjgd]

​@@royalblue5367 yes, but the decline of their dynasty began with the death of their dragons. They lost what made them special

[@royalblue5367]

@@tdegrddeehjgd Yes, but the OP didn't say "when the Targaryen dynasty began their decline", they said "when they fell"

[@aegontargaryen9322]

What a shame the white walker threat , which Benjen goes on to talk about , was dealt with in such a stupid fashion . Jon Snow who had battled them for the entirety of the show , and was set up to rival the night king , was relegated to a back seat in the ultimate fight to destroy them . So many ridiculous changes in character arcs

[@Adaman135]

But that’s not what keeps me up at night…

[@megteg]

Uncle Ben is so underrated ❤

[@MikeHunt-eb4kr]

Tyrion is in my top three characters… he is a man, love this dude’s acting

[@noeltimberlake165]

These clips are awesome and almost make me want to watch the show.

[@parkerdixon-word6295]

This scene always just makes me think of how they changed it from the books- most of the content is the same, the *point* is the same, but the way Tyrion describes it is that instead of referencing giants of "ghouls" (which I don't think is a term that's ever in the books, even if it's supposed to allude to the wights here), in the books, Westeros *has* a couple made-up monsters that people compare the White Walkers to- "Grumpkins" and "Snarks" are, I think, the terms, plus how badly all of Westeros misunderstands what a "Warg" is, which they seem to think is some sort of werewolf half the time, rather than what we see it to be with the Stark Children- a mental connection with animals, for the most part.

[@elr492]

To all the people who comment nobody builds a 300 miles long wall against ordinary people, the Chinese wall is 4 times that long and it was just to stop a bunch of perfectly human warriors.

[@Max_Griswald]

But it isn't 700ft tall!

[@sideeggunnecessary]

So many great quotes in early GoT

[@crowbar_the_rogue]

"Nothing that the people say before the word 'but' really matters." That's a great quote, actually.

[@vladh5192]

“You don’t get it, BUT, you will understand, half-man”

[@georgiannmartinez8547]

Tyrion had to eat those words

[@obaso.]

One of the only times s1-4 Tyrion didn’t know what to say

[@jessicam725]

When Game of Thrones was (chef's kiss)

[@jccarbone6361]

Tyrion then went on to see all 3 of those this from beyond the wall

[@richb1576]

Wish we got more of Benjen

[@JENNerationX]

“But” - Ty’s so clever

[@veloc.raptor9136]

Listen Benji-baby

[@iurizur8526]

Wish I could rewatch this show without feeling furious about what they did with the last couple of seasons…

[@thedigitalbash1506]

His brother sounds like a smart guy who wouldn't try anything stupidly honorable.

[@gilpetperdon9831]

Uncle benjen deserved more screentime, so tragic.

[@bobthestinky7369]

Benjen was my favourite Stark, badass till the end and went out like a G.

[@amandagoldsbury8122]

Whenever anyone talks about how smart he was in the early seasons, I think about this scene. He's literally stood in the mouth of a dragon skull, why doesn't he believe in what's north of the wall?

[@glennolson6505]

He's seen the evidence of dragons, but their existence says nothing either way about the existence of any other myth or legend. You could argue that confirmation of one legend suggests he should at least be open to the possibility of others being real, but it's still a large step going from 'maybe, at one time' to 'definitely, and still now.' Until he sees one with his own eyes, it's far more plausible to believe that the Giants were simply men of the Mountain's stature, exaggerated through time and tale to become something else.

[@amandagoldsbury8122]

@@glennolson6505 I'll give you that the the show that's absolutely true, but there's a ton more magic in the books. Although a disbelief in magic would make him being a secret Targaryen even more tragic.

[@i.cs.zamodits]

Even in the books, isn't most of that magic in Essos and largely dormant until the dragons hatch? In Westeros it's common knowledge that magic and dragons once existed, but by the time this takes place the dragons died out, the glass candles don't burn, and as far as the most educated people are concerned, magic and magical beings are all but extinct. We know he was wrong, but based on the avalaible information for a south westerosi nobleman (whobis arrogant and probably at least slightly looks down on norhmen), tutored according to the Citadel's knowledge, there isn't much reason for him to believe magical things beyond the wall are still there, and haven't got extinct like everywhere else.

[@filipmaly6603]

Why existence of large scaly beast proves existence of zombies, giants and other stuff? This would be same argument as creationist sometimes make:"Look at the food we can eat! it must be created for us!"

[@bluzercic]

you've seen t-rex and brontosaurus bones, why dont you believe in dragons?

[@sargerules20]

Im just leaving a comment cause loved you referencing the Super Best Friends lol. Keep up the good work fam

[@AnantJoshi-vx8hy]

Ufff the good old brilliant writing 🥹

[@nyarlathotep1223]

Good clip, completely right with the 'but' statement and a good psuedo encapsulation of the wall politics from the Iron Throne's side

[@erinobrien8793]

I wish Benjen had more of a story line in the series. He was an interesting character.

[@YouTubeBlowsDaily]

Ben jens's story was in the Top 5 injustices after Tyrion forgetting that the Star crypt has dead bodies and Varys being burned alive

[@finthetrashcan]

this is such good writing

[@roachwerks3043]

Someone built a 300 foot tall magic wall and nobody thinks there is anything to keep out lol

[@RG-si6dy]

Weiss and Benioff were lurking behind the walls. That's pure evil!

[@sydneycartwright1056]

Uncle Ben was a favorite. LOL!

[@leperface]

I wish we could see a show from Benjin's perspective, I love his actor.

[@thecrochetboy]

Benjen legit looks like an elf from LOTR

[@GustavoSilva-ny8jc]

Tyrion: "That's not what i meant uncle Ben!!!"

[@AndreySomov1]

Damn, Jon sounds like his uncle

[@Red0543]

Not to be that guy, but if a wall was 700ft tall, made out of ice and stretched from one side of the continent to the other I would *probably* assume that there’s a damn good reason for its existence and made damn sure that it was fully staffed and equipped at all times.

[@sheilagraddy2290]

"How bout my Queen". "I'd bend the knee, BUT". Ring any bells 🔔.

[@somebody700]

Time is the most powerful force because it leads to a lot of amnesia about the past

[@murray9807]

I thinl Benjen's reply should have been "Yeah, but these widlings have no respect for the monarchic system that keeps you living on top of castles and not dancing in a circus*.

[@Ola-rc7hm]

"you can do this only in minecraft and not irl, BUT yes you can just leave your dog in the house unattended for months on end"

[@hunterh1175]

Morgan Freeman: "As it would turn out, "

[@haytonism]

Ahh tyrion, I remember him. I wonder whatever happened to him.

[@AakashSharma-le8pm]

It was hinted that Aegon the conquerer saw the war coming 300+ years ago and hence he forcefully combined 7 kingdoms under a single rule, to deal with what was on the other side of the wall. Aegon the conquerer was from the original Valaria before the doom struck it down and hence it was hinted that he had some magic or a way through which he was able to identify the threat on the other side of the wall. Dragons refused to go to the other side of the wall when they tried it. It was like either they were afraid or some old magic blocked them.

[@jamesBFC1887]

Would have been funnier if tyrion said "however" instead

[@beformidable12]

Imagine if tyrion said "However"

[@Danosaur101]

🎵WE DRINK FROM THE RIVER THEN WE TURN AROUND AND PUT UP OUR WAAAALLLLSS🎶

[@J_C_CH]

Forgot how good of a character Benjen was. Such wasted potential with him.

[@einflinkeswiesel2695]

I wonder what Jon's and Thorne's relationship would have been like if Benjen had returned

[@timwhite5562]

"Listen, Benjen. May i call you Benjen?" 'Fck no.' "Fine then: Benjen, i don't know what…" And technically, when they put the wall up Tyrion's ancestors weren't even on the continent yet.

[@danielfietkau733]

Story of my Country 🇩🇪 🧱 🇩🇪 you may decide for yourself, which side was the wild one 😅

[@gherry8]

Someone spent several kingdoms worth of gold and thounsands of years to build a 700 feet tall wall of ice and no one thought to look into why? With how selfish people are do you really think they would put thousands of years and gold into building something like just to keep out a few hundred thousand people?? C’mon someone should have put two and two together. Did someone figure it out in the books?

[@bmo3778]

I literally just said this, "I'm not X, but ..." what comes after immediately disproves te first clause

[@climax050]

Because the legends like bran the builder and the others who lived in that time, considered the greatest rulers ever all decided it would be a great idea to build a 700m tall wall for absolutely no reason simply because there was normal everyday people on the other side of it

[@PoppieLand]

Only a Sith deals in absolutes

[@duniyafilmi6711]

I would have loved to see more of Benjen. He reminded me of Serious Black from Harry Potter frenchise.

[@billadams8218]

if Tyrion had only bn tall enuf to see OVER th Wall...maybe he wld hv believed...sad

[@UnRu1eD]

Meanwhile the Red Keep has the Skull of a Dragon that was by far the largest of the known Targaryen Dynasty… not to mention DRAGONS LIVE.

[@mamo4271]

The real english Akzent

[@garrettviewegh9028]

Oh how wrong Tyrion was. Funny thing is, the Wildings that people see as lawless Barbarians, are probably one of the few people best equipped to deal with gouls, Whitewalkers, and other monsters beyond the borders of the seven kingdoms.

[@SergioMendoza760]

To be fair, at the time Tyrion was MOSTLY right. Especially in the books this is a point that’s really stressed with Jons chapters but there’s not a huge difference between the wildlings and the Northmen. And ultimately like Tyrion said there is not that much difference between the northerners and the wildlings, however there are giants and white walkers and in the books probably ice spiders lol. What Tyrion does underplay is how dangerous it is to live beyond the wall.

[@Marshmellow3971]

Kind of weird to be skeptical the existence of magic when you’re standing in the shadow of a 700ft wall made of solid ice.

[@The_Story_Of_Us]

In a world with publically known giant dragons, I’m sure there’s no other fantastical creatures, Tyrion…

[@rjhick1]

Benji was just a wasted character. He had so much potential

[@JARV9701]

The fun part, is that they only proved themselves useful at killings the wildlings, who ended up becoming their greatest allies, but when it came to the walkers, yeah, they crumbled in no time, so, point for Tyrion there.

[@christianguerrero1305]

Cut out the best part

[@Mothwater]

Wouldn’t it make more sense for Kenjaku to have reincarnated Jin’s soul? Maybe he discovered it, still trapped within Sukuna when he was being turned into a cursed object, and just later implanted it in the person who Jin was previously as an experiment

[@josephfreda5928]

He told that to Jon Snow as well..

[@kevinshope1718]

How did Benjen know he was gonna say "but"?

[@Ericstroman100]

Its even worse No Word that was ever spoken to me really counts but fair enough

[@nikkiemedia]

In Season 7/8, there should’ve been some sort of reference to this between Jon Snow and Tyrion. Especially when Jon first went to Dragonstone to meet with him and Daenerys. Tryna make Job look stupid when he had this convo with Jon’s uncle years before that

[@Mariamunro95]

There was. John told Teryan that he didn’t used to believe, “Grumpkins and snarks you called them, d’you remember?”

[@dontgomonkey]

Who cut this?

[@justinbailey1756]

Wildlings are the scotts.

[@maxgallego5288]

The orgazoid!!!

[@juliorodriguez4954]

Unfortunately Tyrion you’re wrong! Sir the there’s army of white walker heading this way!Omg 😱 get everyone out there. Too late sir, they are attacking the wall!!! What’s that noise? Two giants just broken down the main gate! Tyrion I hope you know how to use a blade. I’m sending to front line defenders. To the last man. Later Tyrion returns, how was your visit to black watch sir? Very interesting 🧐!

[@abhishankpaul]

Yes, Tyrion. No one builds a 300 mile long and 700 feet tall ice wall woven with spells to prevent the dead from crossing over, just to hold off ragtag bands of primitive people wielding stone and at best, bronze weapons and being unarmoured or unshielded

[@andreab380]

He was so obviously wrong, and realising and coming to term with that should have been part of his character development...

[@colinnixon7739]

They built a wall like that to keep simple wildlings out? 😂😂😂😂

[@curveofsound]

BUT you're wrong about the white walkers...

[@kdallas3966]

Bingo benjen.