GoT 3x2 | Jaime Lannister and Brienne of Tarth Sword Fight scene | HD |

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@mikehuntburns9753
@mikehuntburns9753 5 жыл бұрын
Who wouldve guessed this would be more epic than the Night Kings death.
@sietsedijkstra178
@sietsedijkstra178 5 жыл бұрын
@Kind Citizen it was
@captasticts8419
@captasticts8419 5 жыл бұрын
@@sietsedijkstra178 people have different opinions. it's fine.
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 5 жыл бұрын
Knight king never even unsheathes his sword!
@diaco423
@diaco423 5 жыл бұрын
tragic
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 5 жыл бұрын
@@diaco423 a complete waist is what it was
@Hausofuji
@Hausofuji 10 жыл бұрын
I swear Jaime looks like a Jedi.
@Dtown3
@Dtown3 10 жыл бұрын
..
@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 9 жыл бұрын
***** At that point in the story a more like a Grey Jedi/Sith acolyte who later changes
@Fabo100
@Fabo100 7 жыл бұрын
well done
@davidtran1812
@davidtran1812 7 жыл бұрын
Too bad he didn't have the high ground.
@chuchulainn9275
@chuchulainn9275 7 жыл бұрын
David Tran Or the Force...
@0ffspringfan
@0ffspringfan 8 жыл бұрын
-"You shouldn't grimace before you lunge." Next second: Grimaces before he lunges.
@AtaTheKin
@AtaTheKin 8 жыл бұрын
i think he did it to show her what she was doing wrong
@svenniepennie4237
@svenniepennie4237 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe he tried to pass it off as a double bluff.
@LegionaryCohort480
@LegionaryCohort480 7 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure we can put that one down to the actors not having the first clue about swordfighting. The whole fight in general is just terrible from that perspective...
@APGames13
@APGames13 7 жыл бұрын
Proving his point.
@martialharpistmatthew1837
@martialharpistmatthew1837 7 жыл бұрын
0ffspringfan he sure did lol he made a face like he was about to take a shit.
@jackwilliamtaylor5656
@jackwilliamtaylor5656 Жыл бұрын
I like how in the books, even though Brienne beats Jaime here, she admits to herself that if he hadn’t been exhausted, malnourished, dehydrated and had both hands tied together, he’d have absolutely BODIED her
@bootoo
@bootoo Жыл бұрын
agreed, she even gets wounded by jamie in the fight
@Teamrat
@Teamrat 11 ай бұрын
@@feris2137 Big talk from someone who had to edit what they wrote. And yet there're still many grammatical errors.🙄
@feris2137
@feris2137 11 ай бұрын
@@Teamratand yet you're still dumb burger eater
@FrenulemEnjoyer
@FrenulemEnjoyer 11 ай бұрын
@@feris2137 what does it matter. powerscaling Jaime like this is kinda weird to me. This aint anime where the strongest dude is just imune to everything because hes the strongest. Still, Brienne also is just that good. As the books show at multiple occasions
@oogabooga9100
@oogabooga9100 11 ай бұрын
Wait really? She actually said that in the books?
@mrglugglug7758
@mrglugglug7758 6 жыл бұрын
Jamie: "Never understood why some knights felt the need to carry two swords." Brienne: "One's for killing monsters. The other? For killing humans." Geralt of Rivia: *Onlooks the scene with approval*
@amirehosseyni
@amirehosseyni 6 жыл бұрын
Reasoning 100
@MysterixXXx
@MysterixXXx 6 жыл бұрын
One for humans, the other for non humans. Both are for monsters.
@Glizzy-hp9gt
@Glizzy-hp9gt 6 жыл бұрын
He was from riviva right?
@DominguezSK
@DominguezSK 6 жыл бұрын
Geralt of Rivia leans in from nowhere, - Both are for monsters.
@RatchetandSly
@RatchetandSly 5 жыл бұрын
You beat me by one year.
@MasteroChieftan
@MasteroChieftan 4 жыл бұрын
I know Brienne takes everything seriously, but she seems even more focused and intense here, because she knows who she is dealing with.
@runtergerutscht4401
@runtergerutscht4401 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame they didn't display just how powerful Jaime really was as a swordfighter in the books. In the books, he almost killed her before his condition caught up to him.
@ToothlessDragon536
@ToothlessDragon536 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it makes sense. Although she might be aware he is severely weakened and ill let alone chained she doesn't take the chance he's easy to beat initially.
@AVerySillySausage
@AVerySillySausage 2 жыл бұрын
@@runtergerutscht4401 They did the same for Jaime and Barriston, never really acknolwedged how good they were supposed to be. Also Loras too just became a joke character when he was supposed to be quite a skilled fight too.They did well with Oberyn and Arhur Dayne at least. In the book it was clear that Jaime lost this fight because of his condition, although he did still underestimate Brienne thinking he wouldn't need to be at full strength. In the show it's really just a whole girl power thing, she just wrecks him. We never see Jaime's skill, even against Ned Stark it seemed quite even and he only killed Jorl Cassel by cheating.
@runtergerutscht4401
@runtergerutscht4401 2 жыл бұрын
@@AVerySillySausage yeah. But only so much you can do when your actor didn't train swordfighting ten years in advance. When someone plays an instrument, you can at least edit the acoustics to make it sound right. No such luck with swordfights, unfortunately. The other option would've been to make all the fight scenes highly edited, but I'm glad they didn't do that.
@xhappybunnyx
@xhappybunnyx 2 жыл бұрын
and the repercussions of her losing! if she were to have died, her last moments would've been 'fuck i let down Stark' and not 'oh damn im gonna die'
@plommon6556
@plommon6556 5 жыл бұрын
"He was weak from imprisonment, and chained at the wrists. No knight in the Seven Kingdoms could have stood against him at his full strength, with no chains to hamper him. Jaime had done many wicked things, but the man could fight! His maiming had been monstrously cruel. It was one thing to slay a lion, another to hack his paw off and leave him broken and bewildered." Quote from Brienne in the books about Jaime in this scenario. edit: jfc its been 3 years, stop commenting on this shitty quote you losers.
@zifajuggernaut9986
@zifajuggernaut9986 4 жыл бұрын
Ned best him alright
@josepabloceniceros3483
@josepabloceniceros3483 4 жыл бұрын
Zifa Juggernaut there is absolutely no way ned stark can beat jaime in a fight the show dramatized that fight outside of the brothel.
@georgebrantley776
@georgebrantley776 4 жыл бұрын
@@josepabloceniceros3483 Also Jamie was not interested in killing Ned either, just wanted to kill the men with him and give him a warning to free Tyrion.
@jaimelannister1797
@jaimelannister1797 3 жыл бұрын
IIRC In the books Ned and Jaime don’t even fight. Jaime just has Ned’s men killed, and Ned’s horse falls on his leg, which shatters his calf
@Maverick-ck7hn
@Maverick-ck7hn 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it mate.
@CARLSOLBERG
@CARLSOLBERG 2 жыл бұрын
Truly wish we got more scenes showing Jaime Lannister's fighting prowess
@kirmityou
@kirmityou 2 жыл бұрын
@Kevin Hart What? Since when do actors have to train for years to create a good looking sword fight?
@hedquarterz
@hedquarterz 2 жыл бұрын
@Kevin Hart good things there's PLENTY of them
@JakeKoenig
@JakeKoenig Жыл бұрын
The problem was that Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, despite being a good actor, wasn't remotely convincing as an elite sword fighter. They probably wanted to put in more fight scenes but saw how unathletic and uncoordinated he looked.
@maegor9599
@maegor9599 Жыл бұрын
​@@JakeKoenig true true, and having stunt doubles would probably be too much for them because of they're budget.
@dinoblade8167
@dinoblade8167 Жыл бұрын
This makes Henry Cavill so impressive. He is an actor with no sword experience either and his fights in The Witcher looks absolutely amazing like a real skilled swordsman
@adrianjenkins5877
@adrianjenkins5877 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Jaime says not to grimace before a lunge...and then proceeds to grimace before literally every single one of his attacks.
@MrThonyfst
@MrThonyfst 2 жыл бұрын
Jaime's actor was great in a lot of ways, but he wasn't the best stage fighter
@adrianjenkins5877
@adrianjenkins5877 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrThonyfst Yup. I loved the actor. His early sneering, coupled with his later introspection, made him my favorite character on the show. We all have our weaknesses.
@frenchbaguetteintelligence
@frenchbaguetteintelligence 2 жыл бұрын
"I was giving a visual example to why shouldn't grimace before you lunge!"
@adrianjenkins5877
@adrianjenkins5877 2 жыл бұрын
@@frenchbaguetteintelligence And to be fair, if you grimace before ALL of your attacks, it's no longer a tell for your lunge.
@Grimmers
@Grimmers 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, great actor and character for everything else, but the fight choreography here is pretty terrible.
@Luke47895
@Luke47895 6 жыл бұрын
I love Jaime's reaction as he gets a feel for the sword at 0:37 like meeting an old friend again after being apart for so long. Martin is such a brilliant but cruel writer, maiming the greatest fighter of Westeros after all the pain he'd already had to endure. His skill was only thing that was truly his own and he has it stripped away from him.
@Kratos7686
@Kratos7686 3 жыл бұрын
And the showrunners didn't even showcased his skills properly, thus losing his sword hand had no impact
@runtergerutscht4401
@runtergerutscht4401 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kratos7686 but he's been all up and down every conversation about swordfighting as the best swordfighter currently alive.
@Kratos7686
@Kratos7686 3 жыл бұрын
@@runtergerutscht4401 one video is 100times more reachable than 100 dialogues. Casual audience who didn't read book doesn't give a shit about Jaime. Even ned stark and bronn are better for them
@runtergerutscht4401
@runtergerutscht4401 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kratos7686 "casual" audience still picked up on the many hints dropped, at the very least. Like the look of relief on that one knight's face (the one who gets killed by Bronn a couple minutes later) when he finds out he doesn't have to fight Jaime Lannister
@thechangamire3495
@thechangamire3495 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, Jaime deserved it at that point
@HaydenLau.
@HaydenLau. 3 жыл бұрын
In the books, Brienne is completely outmatched by Jaime even in his condition. Jaime was the best swordsman alive during the events of Asoiaf. Barristan might have stood a chance against him in his youth and Arthur Dayne was long dead.
@evanahdout
@evanahdout 3 жыл бұрын
@@windrad1021 the whole truth
@deathmoverz
@deathmoverz 3 жыл бұрын
Huh? So this scene is not from the books?
@rupeshsharma8241
@rupeshsharma8241 3 жыл бұрын
Stupid Plot Armor
@J1283-s1k
@J1283-s1k 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, even chained and imprisoned for a year and malnourished he stalemates her and is close to beating her. They end up wrestling because she couldn't beat him with sword in hand, despite being stronger. She later confirms it in her thoughts that he was brilliant and that no swordsman alive could have taken him out in his prime. But in the show they just have her deride him as being worse than him.
@rycroftphilostratem3536
@rycroftphilostratem3536 2 жыл бұрын
The books weren't realistic... They corrected it in the series
@herrmannelig5091
@herrmannelig5091 3 жыл бұрын
In the books: " Brienne remembered her fight with Jaime Lannister in the woods. It had been all that she could do to keep his blade at bay. He was weak from his imprisonment, and chained at the wrists. No knight in the Seven Kingdoms could have stood against him at his full strength, with no chains to hamper him. Jaime had done many wicked things, but the man could fight! His maiming had been monstrously cruel. It was one thing to slay a lion, another to hack his paw off and leave him broken and bewildered." Thanks D&D, I hate u really.
@danielhicks4826
@danielhicks4826 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they went with that one but no chance in the current age of bs subversion nonsense.
@JacobGrim
@JacobGrim 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair he's so out of shape here and she's so in shape that it's not really even close
@danielhicks4826
@danielhicks4826 2 жыл бұрын
@@JacobGrim Of course its ok to have him lose under these circumstances....really no one has an issue with that....what many of us have a big problem with though is the fact that this was just terrible totally emasculated Jamie and this was literally his last hurrah before losing his hand, in the books this plays out very differently Brine and him fight for some time and she says it took all she had to keep him off of her and sorta win in the end even with Jamie in that bad condition/shape/state after 1+ but of course in the show they dont understand that you can in fact have a strong women character without tearing down/humiliating a supposed to be strong male one, but this is well the era were in and this type of bs is infesting media just across the board, so the issue was the execution I mean in this version not only was this not even remotely a challenge for her at all its even easy a total one sided humiliation/mockery to Jamie, and thats simply not how it went in the books at all...so thats deliberate I have to assume as usual there bs ideology/agenda overrode actual good writing in this instance because what other explanation is there? and again yes some liberties from the book in any series are to be expected but this was a flat out revision and terrible once again total humiliation, exact opposite of how this fight/duel was in the books....captivity
@danielhicks4826
@danielhicks4826 2 жыл бұрын
@@JacobGrim I personally and I know most dont feel this way or think I'm crazy even after all the insanity we should all have witnessed by now past few years just in general, but anyways point is I despise when ideology or propaganda or an agenda overrides or even outright replaced entirely good writing and development and etc. And this was one of those times, making this scene how it played out here and not even trying to make it in the books simply makes no sense and has to serve only one purpose ....to show "feminist empowerment" using male emasculation- to do it. That is all this was there is simply no other way to interpret such a drastic and frankly not good change, I cant imagine anyone preferring how this went here over how it was in the books, also in the books both come out looking amazing brine says something along the lines after recalling there duel/battle" his speed and technique were very impressive and intimidating even after being in chains and starved and etc for over a year he could still take on and defeat most around even as he is right now! and there fight was very admirable and high level by both, in the show she literally humiliated him 1`00 percent no challenge even a little bit she may have been dueling fricking Podrick for frucks sakes, then when they talk about it in the show recall scene she again humiliates him by saying" maybe you were that good and fast..once" or maybe you were just hyped up...doubling down on the emasculation and humiliation of course, again literal polar opposite/flat out revision of how this actually great fight scene/duel was actually in the books, and I get it I'm not trying top be " oh yah well in the books" kinda guys I'm not lol but no one can reasonably argue this is better then that or even close nor can they really argue against why they chose to change this because that is obvious enough.
@JacobGrim
@JacobGrim 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielhicks4826 well you certainly changed my mind lol
@nigga851
@nigga851 9 жыл бұрын
I love Jaime Lannister, so much slickness, swagger, cleverness, and douchebag tendencies.
@jaimelannister2089
@jaimelannister2089 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@awsomesauce03
@awsomesauce03 7 жыл бұрын
Christian so much betraying ned stark thus throwing the 7 kingdoms into a civil war so much fucking his sister too produce 2 inbred terrible kings. so much making bran a cripple there for slowing down his journey to the three eye raven likely leading to the death of several people.
@SamBrickell
@SamBrickell 7 жыл бұрын
A mask cultivated for years because EVERYONE misunderstand his finest act as his worst.
@jontorres6854
@jontorres6854 7 жыл бұрын
And now he is cersei's puppet
@supremeworld87
@supremeworld87 7 жыл бұрын
So?
@johnlow391
@johnlow391 5 жыл бұрын
From fighting her to knighting her, Ser Jamie has come so far.
@scoringbox2176
@scoringbox2176 5 жыл бұрын
I know, so many people forget how Jamie and Brienne first met. What character development.
@MegaFrance69
@MegaFrance69 5 жыл бұрын
Jaime had the best caracter developpment in the show. And after him Theon
@oldbenkenobi2864
@oldbenkenobi2864 5 жыл бұрын
Now he just needs to bed her and it will be complete
@tetamukadez5646
@tetamukadez5646 5 жыл бұрын
Nahh they keep 180ing him, they destroyed all that character development in season 6 and 7.And Theon is unrecognizable, they didnt develop his character they just made a new one out of their arse
@yougetonthathorseyougottar6126
@yougetonthathorseyougottar6126 5 жыл бұрын
@@oldbenkenobi2864 looks like you got your wish.
@nihaalsandim9986
@nihaalsandim9986 4 жыл бұрын
Ik hes supposed to be tired but damn we never really got an awesome "best swordsman in westeros" fight its such a shame
@truelegend816
@truelegend816 2 жыл бұрын
They should've done a flashback or something like they did for Dayne
@DemocratsareagentsofSATAN
@DemocratsareagentsofSATAN 2 жыл бұрын
Best swordsman in the seven kingdoms you mean
@MCSPARTAN501
@MCSPARTAN501 2 жыл бұрын
He fought Ned Stark, though that fight ended prematurely
@bait5257
@bait5257 2 жыл бұрын
@@MCSPARTAN501 that wasn't in the books and the show hyped up ned. Because ned clearly don't stand a chance against Jamie
@yeti2237
@yeti2237 2 жыл бұрын
@@truelegend816 the Dayne fight was so bad. Fighting with two swords sounds awful. Dayne had a brilliant longsword that was possibly even older than valerian steel blades. Sword of morning. In the show he swings some random crap and dies ugh.
@genemano3921
@genemano3921 2 жыл бұрын
It's a pity we never get to see Jamie's true potential as a swordsman. This fight and the one against Ned were only minor scuffles, and the only scenes where he has both hands.
@ivermektin6874
@ivermektin6874 11 ай бұрын
His prowess as a fighter was an exaggeration and a lie seeded by the Lannisters.
@luca7675
@luca7675 11 ай бұрын
​@@ivermektin6874not in the books...
@ivermektin6874
@ivermektin6874 11 ай бұрын
@@luca7675 books are written by the victors. Looks at ned stark killing Arthur Dayne
@luca7675
@luca7675 11 ай бұрын
@@ivermektin6874 You didnt read the books, did you?
@ivermektin6874
@ivermektin6874 11 ай бұрын
@@luca7675 what books?
@MelonMafia1
@MelonMafia1 4 жыл бұрын
You know you're good at swordplay when the person in full plate armor is intimidated by you when your in rags, in handcuffs and probably in poor physical conditon after being a prisoner.
@alphanerd7221
@alphanerd7221 3 жыл бұрын
Full plate isn't an advantage in one on one. It's better for battles to defend against blows you can't see coming.
@MelonMafia1
@MelonMafia1 3 жыл бұрын
@@alphanerd7221 Bruh. No. Plate armor is definetly an advantage when it comes to duels. Before you reply, No. Plate armor does not slow you down No. It is not that easy to stab someone through the gaps of armor, especially a trained knight No, you cannot stab or slice someone through the plate like in Hollywood, plate armor is not sheet metal No, you are not going to roll around and dodge like in Dark Souls and tire the knight out.
@alphanerd7221
@alphanerd7221 3 жыл бұрын
@@MelonMafia1 "No. Plate armor does not slow you down" Well that is grossly false. "No. It is not that easy to stab someone through the gaps of armor, especially a trained knight" No but it's easy to beat the crap out of them. Swords aren't really about cutting people. They are just an effective way to beat the crap out of people the sometimes cuts them. It's easy for someone not in full plate to tire out someone in full plate. Why would you roll around? Just back away from their sword hand.
@MelonMafia1
@MelonMafia1 3 жыл бұрын
@@alphanerd7221 Plate armor doesn't slow you down, or atleast it's not the big difference you think it is. The weight is distributed throughout your body. "easy to beat the crap out of them" I'm assuming you mean maces, mordhau, and warhammers. Ok first of all. It's not that easy. Second of all, on a 1v1 duel, a well trained knight will very likely know how to counter attacks from blunt weapons. They've literally been training since the age of 7. And third of all, and I hope this isn't true, if you're talking about beating the crap out of a knight with the actual blade of your sword....tell me again how that is not an advantage to plate? If you hit an unarmored opponent once, he goes down, but with plate, he can take multiple hits. "just back away from the sword hand bro" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Knights have been literally training since the age of 7. It's likely he'll be the one tiring you out rather then the other way around 😂😂 Especially since he only needs one good strike at your flesh vs you dodging and weaving and trying to hit him multiple times in his armor lmfao. Real life isn't GoT and you're not Oberyn or Bronn dawg. Even then, the only reason they won was because they're opponents had grossly overly heavy plate, it was explained in the novels. Edit: "bro plate armor slows you down bro just dodge and parry bro" kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6u3qHWHo85_icU kzbin.info/www/bejne/p17Fn4BriNqEoas
@alphanerd7221
@alphanerd7221 3 жыл бұрын
@@MelonMafia1 You started out with the same unsupported lie and thought I would read further. You are ignorant and redundant and I'm not interested in winning this argument again.
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 5 жыл бұрын
“You great beast of a woman” 5 years later : _Ser Brienne of Tarth_
@truepotential206
@truepotential206 4 жыл бұрын
"The big woman?"
@No-ms3hj
@No-ms3hj 3 жыл бұрын
This is Jaime's last sword fight before he joined the Cripple Squad with bran
@thatboyYERP
@thatboyYERP 2 жыл бұрын
Yep and the only other real fight against Ned stark gets interrupted. But it’s cool at least we got to see Ser Barriston fuck shit up lat… oh wait, he died to a handful of no namers carrying kitchen knives..
@No-ms3hj
@No-ms3hj 2 жыл бұрын
​@@thatboyYERP yay!!!
@kieranidris1103
@kieranidris1103 3 ай бұрын
@@thatboyYERP He said he could carve up kingsguards like butter not sons of herpes
@PaddyRoon7
@PaddyRoon7 Жыл бұрын
Love how relieved and satisfied he seems when he looks at the sword in his hands.
@WillRock07
@WillRock07 9 жыл бұрын
I never understood Jaimes reasoning here. "I'm starved, dirty, weak, caked in my own shit, but being returned to the Lannisters by this beast through some misguided treason from Lady Stark. I'm being searched for by the entirety of the north and completely out in the open on a bridge. I know! I will take a sword and best the beast in combat, then make a run for it! WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?"
@xtremebrother77
@xtremebrother77 9 жыл бұрын
+WillRock07 as bronn said "that explains the golden hand" Jaime was not particularly good at plotting like Tywin or Tyrion
@AndrewOfMA
@AndrewOfMA 9 жыл бұрын
+WillRock07 I can imagine that his level of frustration would have been very high. At the point he might have been looking for even the slimmest of chances and up to that point Brienne had probably given him none. The bridge as a place to fight was not bad, gently curved and overall flat, not unlike tourney fields where Jaime may have had more experience than Brienne in fighting. His just dropping down for a sit obviously frustrated Brienne who wanted to keep out of sight was much as is possible; certainly not out in the open on a bridge(which in the scene following the fight was part of their mutual undoing). His refusal to move and verbal whining was meant to and succeeded in drawing her in and when she heaved him back up to his feet, he made his move. Sharp sword makes quick work of the 'leash' he was being dragged around by and now... hands bound but having a sword...Jaime's got a chance.
@mihaa94sky
@mihaa94sky 8 жыл бұрын
The fight was pointless. If he kills her, he is free to return to his family. If he doesn't do anything at all, he is still returned to his family....
@jackdaone6469
@jackdaone6469 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but she still takes the advantage in the end and is all but drowning the dude in the river when Vargo and his Bloody Mummers find them.
@Veloziraptor111
@Veloziraptor111 8 жыл бұрын
In the books he gets frustrated by her annoying patronizing holier-than-thou attitude and just snaps, trying to kill her. Not that I blame him for it, Brienne could drive even a patient man nuts with her stubborn stupidity.
@xyphenius9942
@xyphenius9942 5 жыл бұрын
In the book this scene showed the immense ability of Jaimes prowess! He pushed Brienne through the forest and past creeks for ages, flurrying his sword about relentlessly.
@pinecrustjuise
@pinecrustjuise 2 жыл бұрын
he even cuts her pretty deep in the leg
@mreese8764
@mreese8764 Жыл бұрын
Wearing him out was her only way to win without hurting him. Retreat and defense are easier on her.
@mauro6545
@mauro6545 Жыл бұрын
@@mreese8764 in the books literally Brienne barely could beat an immensely exhausted, starved, weakened, sick and in chained Jaime… She says that no person on earth could even come close to Jaime on the full of his might… Thats why Brienne is arguably top 15/20 amongst the best fighters in Westeros… While Jaime is top 3.
@giacomoromano8842
@giacomoromano8842 Жыл бұрын
@@mauro6545 that... sounds dumb. It's not like exhaustion, weight and malnutrition treats people differently. Young, old, trained, not trained doesn't really matter, if you have been dirty, ill treated, malnourished and exhausted for *a year*, there is no way you kept the body physique necessary to fight even remotely effective. In fact, i dare say that it makes more sense in the show as Brienne is clearly otumatched but overwhelm him with sheer brute strenght over an adversary who lose stamina very quickly due to his disadvantages.
@mauro6545
@mauro6545 Жыл бұрын
@@giacomoromano8842 Well... thats why Jaime lost lol, literally not being able to "fight even remotely effective" Its the only reason while Jaime lost, and in the books Brienne being able to barely beat a weakened, in chained, malnutrished Jaime its the way of prooving by GRRM how great of a fighter he is... Also in the books, unlike in the show where they boosted up Brienne as a fighter, she gets her leg slashed by Jaime and I believe quite a few bruises and the fight wasnt done when they get captured so Jaime couldve still made more damage (besides in the books, Brienne isnt holding back like in here, whereas here she looks like barely giving idk 50% of her? In the books she goes full 100% against Jaime). Jaime indeed wasnt able to even remotely fight, cuz If he wouldve been able to do so, the "fight" wouldve ended in like 10 seconds.
@ricardo7017gbp
@ricardo7017gbp 10 жыл бұрын
Brienne is pretty good but she would have no chance agianst Jaime or the Hound if they weren't in poor condition.
@sosissalam8665
@sosissalam8665 10 жыл бұрын
and hand tied :)) dont forget
@joaquinibarra8074
@joaquinibarra8074 10 жыл бұрын
yavuz kul Yes, but Brienne is handcuffed too by the oath that she mad to Lady Stark, as Jaime said.
@joaquinibarra8074
@joaquinibarra8074 10 жыл бұрын
What you mean with "poor condition" about the Hound?
@sosissalam8665
@sosissalam8665 10 жыл бұрын
Joaquín Ibarra cardio :)
@joaquinibarra8074
@joaquinibarra8074 10 жыл бұрын
yavuz kul Is that a spoiler? I haven´t read the books.
@jaykayhooray
@jaykayhooray 2 жыл бұрын
I always remembered how Jamie was feeling out the sword before engaging. He was a master swordsman who hadn’t held a sword in a long time + was a prisoner; you could see the relief and satisfaction of holding a proper weapon again. I dont think it was bcos he could finally escape or kill Brienne, it was bcos he was just so content at wielding a sword again. Sad to think his hand would later…
@almahmudrijoy9491
@almahmudrijoy9491 2 жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how you noticed that!
@masterDarts4188
@masterDarts4188 9 жыл бұрын
I have to admit they really did Jamie wrong in this fight. The man is suppose to be hands down one of the best fighters in the show. Even in the books Briene wasn't able to beat him despite the insane disadvantage he had. For them to make him so underwhelming in this fight was really annoying to watch. And I was seriously looking forward to this to.
@rexmarcus3340
@rexmarcus3340 8 жыл бұрын
+Hannibal Rasberry He had his hands tied and he was unarmored.
@masterDarts4188
@masterDarts4188 8 жыл бұрын
Rex Marcus Same with how he was in the book. And the fight wasn't nearly as one sided as this.
@the_dark_one6052
@the_dark_one6052 8 жыл бұрын
+Hannibal Rasberry As already noted, he had his hands tied, no armour, not practised for a year and also been locked up in a cage, tied to a post and lived in his own shit and piss for a year. Probably not been fed too well either.....
@masterDarts4188
@masterDarts4188 8 жыл бұрын
Mark Livsey And as I already said, he was in the EXACT condition in the books, and this fight wasn't nearly as one sided. So that's no excuse.
@14DANESSJ
@14DANESSJ 8 жыл бұрын
+Hannibal Rasberry Maybe this is a more grounded interpretation of what happens in the books. I mean he was malnourished and spent the last year on the road in his own filth. Realistically this is exactly how it would have gone down, length wise as well perhaps. Also going by the source material. _One of her slashes raked across his brow, and blood ran down into his right eye. The Others take her, and Riverrun as well! His skills had gone to rust and rot in that bloody dungeon, and the chains were no great help either. His eye closed, his shoulders were going numb from the jarring they'd taken, and his wrists ached from the weight of chains, manacles, and sword. His longsword grew heavier with every blow, and Jaime knew he was not swinging it as quickly as he'd done earlier, nor raising it as high._ _She is stronger than I am. The realization chilled him._ The end result felt very much the same as the show depicted.
@Ogahz94
@Ogahz94 9 жыл бұрын
All her opponents were at a disadvantage; Hound was wounded and had a fever, jaime was in captivity for a WHOLE year and in chains, and loras isn't anything special when he's not jousting, which is mostly a showoff.
@ChaoticNarrative
@ChaoticNarrative 9 жыл бұрын
+Ogahzlol All is fair in love and war, the characters never made excuses for their defeats, I don't quite understand why so many fans debate Brienne's victories, when it's a fight, it's only your problem if you're not in good nick when the fighting starts, it's just the way it is... and the story really does a good job of reflecting that.
@Kustula1
@Kustula1 9 жыл бұрын
+ChaoticNarrative You still cant deny Brienne had an advantage making her win the fight
@ChaoticNarrative
@ChaoticNarrative 9 жыл бұрын
I'm not denying it, what I mean to say is, regardless, she won, it's like Fencers whom whine about losing to a leftie, the fact is... they lost, or indeed getting a bad hand in cards.
@Kustula1
@Kustula1 9 жыл бұрын
ChaoticNarrative I know, but his point is, that Brienne isn't a fighter as great as Jaime or The Hound, she just had luck with the time she faced them
@ChaoticNarrative
@ChaoticNarrative 9 жыл бұрын
Aye, though she is a great warrior, she's not as great as Jaime at his best, the same could probably be said if she got the chance to fight Eddard Stark, however, in The Hounds Case, I'd say they were evenly matched, that bite from Rorge niggled him a bit but it didn't have an effect in the fight and Sure, she smashed him about with a rock when he had no rock or sword at the end of the fight, but... what is chivalry compared to life, The Hound would have done the same thing.
@robpolaris7272
@robpolaris7272 Жыл бұрын
As someone who was an athlete and then spent 10 months in a hospital bed this is 100% realistic. Your cardiovascular and muscles deplete remarkably fast when you don’t use them constantly. I was shocked how fast I lost muscle and got out of breath walking up one flight of stairs. I went from 198 to 127 in 10 months. I also wasn’t eating food though.
@noahswiss1997
@noahswiss1997 Жыл бұрын
Damn man sorry to hear that what was your sport?
@gamesthatmatter9374
@gamesthatmatter9374 6 ай бұрын
i do combat sports and 2 weeks of not doing the sport is brutal ,,, cant imagine 10 months lmao
@hakimehamdouchi7468
@hakimehamdouchi7468 Жыл бұрын
In the book Brienne admires how a malnourished and chained Jaime Lannister can fight that well. And she's thankful he's not unchained. She had brute force him when she realized she's not Besting him in swords play. She later urges him to keep living when he gives up on life after he lost his sword's hand.
@spartanrh83
@spartanrh83 5 жыл бұрын
And now in season 8 Jamie finally gets his sword in her.
@slurpmydonger9221
@slurpmydonger9221 5 жыл бұрын
He did the old penetrate then dip method
@ferdinand5223
@ferdinand5223 5 жыл бұрын
And then he promptly fucks off and contracts younger onset dementia immediately, forgetting literally everything that ever happened in the past eight seasons.
@Afdog
@Afdog 5 жыл бұрын
@@ferdinand5223 what can you say if he even forgot about what color his hair supposed to be
@ONLYNINJA001
@ONLYNINJA001 5 жыл бұрын
She let him though😂 so she is still manlier.
@wewetke4678
@wewetke4678 5 жыл бұрын
but at what cost ;_;
@sammakesstuff4176
@sammakesstuff4176 4 жыл бұрын
Simple, short, 2 person sword fight infinitely more compelling than the hours of mindless zombie fights
@MontyQueues
@MontyQueues 4 жыл бұрын
don’t underestimate the value of characters
@akkir6707
@akkir6707 2 жыл бұрын
done in the dark as well with 0 visibility
@colinburman419
@colinburman419 2 жыл бұрын
@@akkir6707 Well if that's the case you either have really bad sight or a really bad tv/monitor
@CH-tr3ri
@CH-tr3ri 2 жыл бұрын
@@colinburman419 Then so do the majority of viewers. That was one of the biggest complaints about the Long Night episode.
@colinburman419
@colinburman419 2 жыл бұрын
@@CH-tr3ri Yeah it's supposed to be dark, how many times have you been out at night in the woods with no light and could see perfectly, it just doesn't happen. And there's a difference between saying it's too dark and saying you can't see anything
@JacobFreeb
@JacobFreeb 7 жыл бұрын
Jaime never got any good fight scenes
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie 7 жыл бұрын
Most of the GOT characters are getting shoddy fight scenes.
@moistslippers9726
@moistslippers9726 5 жыл бұрын
Medieval Genie, except Jon, cause he’s the ‘special main character’.
@smalbeaste
@smalbeaste 5 жыл бұрын
I have heard it's mostly because Nikolaj is a poor swordsman.
@God-kg1lx
@God-kg1lx 5 жыл бұрын
Joel the Great , a ducking idiot ruined the moment by stabbing starks’ leg
@What-go8ng
@What-go8ng 5 жыл бұрын
Lol he gauches Ned's boy. Made him look like a bitchmaid, not a good fighter.
@gregarious2911
@gregarious2911 2 жыл бұрын
I really love that growl he does as he grabs the sword and cuts the rope. A weak lion is still a lion.
@prachetasnayse9709
@prachetasnayse9709 5 жыл бұрын
2:28 when your younger brother tries to fight you....
@fatfrankthepeteacher2503
@fatfrankthepeteacher2503 4 жыл бұрын
Are you a bit too young to be watching this? This is an adult program
@shockwavethewarlock
@shockwavethewarlock 2 жыл бұрын
@@fatfrankthepeteacher2503 uh what?
@andydufresnefromshawshank5866
@andydufresnefromshawshank5866 3 ай бұрын
😂
@dirknash4113
@dirknash4113 Ай бұрын
​@@fatfrankthepeteacher2503 go cry pls
@oofowie8882
@oofowie8882 Ай бұрын
@@fatfrankthepeteacher2503hey just stopping by 4 years later to tell you your comment makes no fucking sense. Do you think only children have siblings or something? The fuck 😂
@ginge641
@ginge641 5 жыл бұрын
"You shouldn't grimace before you lunge." This is literally what he just did.
@sparrowhawk81
@sparrowhawk81 9 жыл бұрын
"You shouldn't grimace before you lunge". Said before grimacing and lunging, very slowly.
@alphanerd7221
@alphanerd7221 3 жыл бұрын
That's his health.
@Mystrohan
@Mystrohan 2 жыл бұрын
The look on Jaime's face at 2:07 is just hilarious. It's like "Wait... am I LOSING? How is this happening? THIS IS ILLEGAL"
@PaisleyGreene63
@PaisleyGreene63 Ай бұрын
He tried a shoulder check and she just shrugged him off.
@shimmisking
@shimmisking 10 жыл бұрын
" you shouldn't grimace before you lunge, gives the game away" - grimace - lunge -
@mylifeisfunny8911
@mylifeisfunny8911 2 жыл бұрын
he just wanted to show it for her to understand
@halafradrimx
@halafradrimx 10 жыл бұрын
That fight costed Jaime's right hand.
@Ben24soccer
@Ben24soccer 10 жыл бұрын
yes it did
@Ansatsouken
@Ansatsouken 10 жыл бұрын
Brienne choosing not to kill the merchant they passed on the road was the biggest mistake.
@mylifeisfunny8911
@mylifeisfunny8911 9 жыл бұрын
Ansatsouken She is not evil.Valueable quality for a person which costs with a heavy price in a place like Westeros
@Ansatsouken
@Ansatsouken 9 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you're right, she's definitely not evil, very just in her thinking, but way too trusting too. It cost Jamie his hand, but we can only hope it will save Sansa's life in weeks to come!
@mylifeisfunny8911
@mylifeisfunny8911 9 жыл бұрын
Ansatsouken Let us hope you are right.
@TheMonkeygoneape
@TheMonkeygoneape 5 жыл бұрын
didn't Jamie almost win in the book? thats what always bothered me with this scene
@rebelfriend1818
@rebelfriend1818 5 жыл бұрын
the show couldn't handle brienne losing any fight
@nvmfirezactaylor6035
@nvmfirezactaylor6035 4 жыл бұрын
Yea iirc they cut each other pretty well before being captured
@seandamonii5713
@seandamonii5713 4 жыл бұрын
@Schwanzus Longus see how quick the writers made her lose to Arya? Apparently only a woman can defeat her, women have this unreal sort of power in GoT. They must've been confused as to whether they should make one woman be unrealistically powerful, or the other. So they decided that Arya would beat her easily, even though that doesn't make sense because they have different fighting styles that they both seem to have learnt well, one style cannot simply be better than the other, they both have their own sorts of experience
@linkofvev
@linkofvev 4 жыл бұрын
@Schwanzus Longus I dunno man. Consider that they absolutely ruined the most powerful and inspiring female characters in the series (Dany).
@RhadaGhast100
@RhadaGhast100 4 жыл бұрын
@Schwanzus Longus Ehhhh I don't think it's "muh feminism" I think Jaimie losing this fight is fairly realistic. Hes in no condition to fight. Though I think it should have showcased his skill a little more.
@adamrobinette6832
@adamrobinette6832 5 ай бұрын
That look she gave him at 1:47 when she was circling him, showed she hit 99th level boss pissed and had about enough of his bullshit, LOL!
@matthewchrist9082
@matthewchrist9082 10 жыл бұрын
he might not have lost a hand if it wasn't for this, they might have stayed ahead of Locke & reached KL
@DakturPepper
@DakturPepper 6 жыл бұрын
Matthew Christ Jaime would still be a prick if he hadnt lost his hand.
@senobudd7404
@senobudd7404 6 жыл бұрын
No zach He changed a lot and his character developed Did you watch the show?
@TheAntiTrope
@TheAntiTrope 6 жыл бұрын
Doubtful, Locke was a great hunter, he also had the advantage of a lot more men and more importantly, horses. They may have paced a while longer, but if Locke was diligent, he would have caught up to them on the same day, probably less than an hour. I know I am 4 years late, but I always come back to these videos.
@G0SuBunnY
@G0SuBunnY 6 жыл бұрын
he would of lost his hand, and Briene her life if not for that. They were going to catch him and take his head regardless. and her life would of been taken if not for jaime mentioning the Sapphires. Lockehardt or however you spell his name is a cunt like ramsey. LUL
@John52Hughes
@John52Hughes 5 жыл бұрын
True
@diegopachon8051
@diegopachon8051 8 жыл бұрын
0:31 Jaime never saw Arthur Dayne fighting? XD
@theo7371
@theo7371 8 жыл бұрын
+Diego Pachón Arthur Dayne was pretty much his mentor. In the book he doesn't use 2 swords. He said "some knights" though. Arthur Dayne was not some knight. Using 2 swords that heavy is insane, Arthur Dayne has to be pretty much the only person who could wield 2 heavy swords like this in the entire verse. The Hound and the Mountain would be strong enough to lift two swords but to effectively attack and defend with both swords you also need a lot of fluidity otherwise the extra sword is useless.
@mihaa94sky
@mihaa94sky 8 жыл бұрын
+theo konstantellos Maybe he was using lighter swords...
@musigma5050
@musigma5050 8 жыл бұрын
+theo konstantellos ..What? Both long-swords and arming swords(which most European knights did carry at once, historically) were built for one-handed use(as well as two-handed, in the case of the flexible longsword). So long as you have adequate strength in each arm, there's no reason why you wouldn't be able to hold a sword in each. And weight does not matter so much as balance. If the weight of the sword is balanced properly, it can be quite heavy before it starts to actually become impractical. In fact, swords tend to be weighty on purpose, as it literally adds weight to the swing. To use a bit of RPG terminology, when it comes to one-handed swords and longswords, dexterity is far more important than strength. So long as the swords are well-made, which you'd expect the best swordsman in Westeros to have, *any* knight could lift two swords effectively enough to learn Florentine techniques. Whether or not dual-wielding swords is a good idea over say, two-handing a longsword, or dual-wielding a sword and a buckler or a parrying dagger, is another matter.
@angelnikolov9596
@angelnikolov9596 8 жыл бұрын
An average longsword weights about 1.1-1.8 kg. Thats not heavy, anyone can lift two swords .... ( its not common because its not practical, its much better to hold a shield or a buckler in your other hand. A sword and a dagger is a good combination though )
@disturbed157
@disturbed157 8 жыл бұрын
Ser Gerald Hightower could wield two probably as well as barristan and Jon snow maybe in the future
@pagancenturion94
@pagancenturion94 7 жыл бұрын
"Great beast of a woman" lol Jamie comes out with some classics
@PedRandaPirate
@PedRandaPirate Жыл бұрын
For me, this is the only scene that actually makes it properly feel like Jaime is the best swordsman in Westeros. As other people noted, we dont get to see him ever fight a “real” fight at his peak, but the way Jaime acts with the sword while seriously disadvantaged, and the way Brienne reacts to him getting the sword and being 100% on guard makes it feel real. Like he really is the last person you would ever want to fight in a duel. The only time in the show it is ever Shown rather than just Told to us, and it was done beautifully. Superb acting done by both, and excellent choreography for the fight.
@victorymansions
@victorymansions Жыл бұрын
Yes, he is on his last legs in regards to malnourishment, exhaustion along with cold and soaked through, hands tied up. The amount of handicaps he has here stack the odds very much against him. He tried, because he's used to finding an advantage. But Brienne deserves her props. She is a total bruiser, able to best The Hound when he was at peak performance level and without any hindrance to his abilities. I actually quite like Jaimes implied capabilities. The way his armour, sword and reputation represent his past achievements. Sometimes not seeing someone being lethal, but knowing they are is more scary.
@Losrandir
@Losrandir Жыл бұрын
@@victorymansions Otherwise well said but no, the Hound was in a shitty state there, with infection, fatigue, bad nourishment etc. Or was there some other fight?
@romanarriaga19
@romanarriaga19 11 ай бұрын
in the books, Brienne does get hit by Jamie, she was also doing her best to keep him off, I really don't like how she still looks calm and composed here, almost as if toying with him.
@TV-ge3uj
@TV-ge3uj 11 ай бұрын
There is also that look of the Vale knight as Tyrion announces Jaime as his choice for champion.
@CarzorStelatis
@CarzorStelatis 4 ай бұрын
​@@victorymansions Brienne has the additional disadvantage that Jaime mentions at 1:25 - he wants to kill her, but she doesn't want to kill him (because she's supposed to exchange him for Sansa and Arya)
@leonjreawani1417
@leonjreawani1417 3 жыл бұрын
0:48 Jaime's hilarious
@TheCynthiasramos
@TheCynthiasramos 9 жыл бұрын
That sword Jaime takes is pretty fuckin cool looking
@clarencegutsy7309
@clarencegutsy7309 5 жыл бұрын
I won't lie, I kind of miss heel Jaime Lannister. He was an asshole, but he was lovable.
@TTUploads
@TTUploads 5 жыл бұрын
We still have Cersei
@jonathansenile4396
@jonathansenile4396 5 жыл бұрын
@@TTUploads not anymore
@blessedevelyn339
@blessedevelyn339 5 жыл бұрын
Brienne's level of skill is akin to Agrias Oaks, while Jaime is at Lu Bu level. Jaime also has Lu Bu's personality, and they are both the greatest and strongest fighters in the series. A healthy Jaime can destroy both the Hound and the Mountain at the same time. Lu Bu and Diao Chan die together, Jaime and Cersei die together.
@jonathansenile4396
@jonathansenile4396 5 жыл бұрын
@@blessedevelyn339 Jaime wouldn't stand a chance against the hound
@blessedevelyn339
@blessedevelyn339 5 жыл бұрын
9@@jonathansenile4396 The Hound skill is at Gafgarion's level. Even if Hound uses cheap tricks, Jaime is prepared as despite being a knight, Jaime is a master of detecting deception/sabotage. ROTK-wise, The Hound is only as good as Wei Yan or Gan Ning (who's martial abilities are about 92-95), while Jaime and Lu Bu are 100-110.
@hyicrotai9801
@hyicrotai9801 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they had more scenes of him sword fighting before being taken hostage. Just to showcase how good he was. It never felt like he was that good of a sword fighter. He wasn't bad but he wasn't legendary as described by others.
@isaacalzate8262
@isaacalzate8262 2 жыл бұрын
Um yeah he was dude was considering the best swordsman at that time he probably would have beat even selmy during that time
@explorer9692
@explorer9692 2 жыл бұрын
@@isaacalzate8262 you literally didn't understand the comment my guy
@MylesKillis
@MylesKillis 2 жыл бұрын
@@isaacalzate8262 yeah but the point is we never actually see him being that good cause the actor who plays him sucks at fighting despite his cocky attitude
@waynearrington6727
@waynearrington6727 2 жыл бұрын
Ummmm.....they are actors doing a job. It's make believe. Fiction.
@JakeKoenig
@JakeKoenig Жыл бұрын
Because Nikolaj Coster-Waldau was unconvincing as an elite swordfighter. He looked unathletic and uncoordinated in his fights with Ned and Brienne, despite all the video cuts and camera angles to try and make it look better. It honestly wasn't a very good casting choice, although he was great in the non-fighting scenes.
@Pastafari4
@Pastafari4 Жыл бұрын
I actually like the snark from Jamie here. Really does make it seem that he's a great swordsman not just due to skill, but due to what he does during combat. Amping up his opponents, teasing them and basically messing with them. Potentially even strategically so. Gives the swordsmanship a flare aside from just movement, and fits very much the sort of Jamie we meet early on. Also brings some emphasis to his development and how he shifts
@zacharynewcomb6382
@zacharynewcomb6382 2 жыл бұрын
They had so many cool scenes and such a good story arc of jaime being her teacher, and Brienne being something jaime could actually care about beyond his family. Then the final episode ran... so I just imagine the last episode never happened.
@HoneysPark
@HoneysPark Жыл бұрын
The last season, sort of like the two Matrix movies.
@Adammonte9000
@Adammonte9000 2 жыл бұрын
I love at 2:05 when Jaime tries to knock her over & ends up knocking himself over 😆
@Betroid
@Betroid 2 жыл бұрын
Fighting while starving i can imagine
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike Жыл бұрын
im in rags, i know, i'll shoulder bash a butch beast of a woman in full steel armour. Genius! No. Not genius... whats the opposite of genius? Ah thats right, retarded.
@sylph4252
@sylph4252 Жыл бұрын
He literally bounced off. Don't try power moves against a larger and physically stringer opponent, kids
@TheYangsta7
@TheYangsta7 Жыл бұрын
In his words she’s a “beast of a woman” after all 😂
@MarkusRamikin
@MarkusRamikin 8 ай бұрын
As Colonel Wolodyjowski would say, "They're swinging as if with flails". GoT fight scenes always required quite a bit of suspension of disbelief, especially when I was supposed to pretend that such and such person is amazingly skilled.
@suqmadique9762
@suqmadique9762 8 ай бұрын
well, he is supposed to be the best so i assume everyone else is absolute dogshit and cut themselves during battle
@billybones1694
@billybones1694 7 ай бұрын
Barristan Selmy against the cult people or whatever they were was probably the worst. The man was described as a painter with a sword and the actor they chose to play him could barely even hold one.
@yourevilhalf1413
@yourevilhalf1413 4 жыл бұрын
This show always has a knack of putting brienne in the spotlight when it comes to fighting handicapped people
@danielormerod1683
@danielormerod1683 Жыл бұрын
It goes to show how good Jamie really was, he was tired, malnourished, had been a prisoner and wore the same clothes for a year, yet he still puts up a good fight
@ddenozor
@ddenozor 5 ай бұрын
and he's been walking in same shoes for a long time. truly a fighter
@wade_west
@wade_west 11 ай бұрын
He was starved,dragged, and weak but still could sword fight damn Jamie.
@raina1848
@raina1848 10 ай бұрын
I miss these two... Every scene together they had was done so well with the actor and actress having good work chemistry.
@emosrule34
@emosrule34 8 жыл бұрын
i often wonder if the producers just hate him or if nikolaj coster-waldau cant be bothered learning to fight the way Jaime actually would.
@kaphamenskendee7428
@kaphamenskendee7428 8 жыл бұрын
The first comment I see that actually mentions the big bummer of this whole fight...
@billy-the-butcher
@billy-the-butcher 7 жыл бұрын
Tony Wilczynski Finally. we have heard of all the great deeds of Jaime off screen,including when Robb capturing him being said that he took down 20 men, but we never really SAW any of it. i go with Waldau not wanting to do great choreographies Arthue Dayne style at all
@MedievalGenie
@MedievalGenie 7 жыл бұрын
They whole scene looked fairly abysmal.
@munkebo96
@munkebo96 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, it's not like he at this point had starved for about a year, was malnourished and weak, had JUST begun to walk again after being sat down his whole imprisonment, thus fucking up his legs. I mean, come on.. It's not THAT hard to know what's going on. Jamie was not portrayed anything like Dayne or himself in his prime, because he isn't meant to be like that in this scene.
@Orcawhale1
@Orcawhale1 5 жыл бұрын
Has most likely more something to with how the show is handled by the produceres, who are total hacks and can't write properly for the life of them. As proven with Dorne, and generally the whole season 5. Also, not like we havn't seen them do this before, (Berristan Selmy got the same shitty treatment).
@michaelbonhomme3219
@michaelbonhomme3219 3 жыл бұрын
Series started off well, but would love to to see the rise of the elders, or everybody at their best form. We were robbed of seeing Jaime, Robert, Rhaegar, Dorn Fighters, and others in their primes that created the setting for this series
@MrBeastlyOwns
@MrBeastlyOwns 2 жыл бұрын
Even after all these years of the bitterness of season 8, I am considering watching this great show again.
@Jacob-vs1ez
@Jacob-vs1ez 2 жыл бұрын
Is season 8 that bad? I’m on season 5 right now and it’s hard to see it falling off.
@stylishskater92
@stylishskater92 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jacob-vs1ez Yes, it was hard to see. Which is why it was so shocking seeing it go bad that quickly. Season 5 is still good, Season 6 is already showing issues, but overall quite enioyable. From season 7 on it takes a nose dive into a pile of horseshit. Season 8 is so terrible that it is hard for me to believe it isnt a form of satire. But then again, the writers of that show started deviating from the books and writing their own plots and thats what we got. Especially in terms of dialogues quite early on.
@jannovak6987
@jannovak6987 2 жыл бұрын
After all this time I think I found out what this show did wrong at Jaime right here. In the books, Jaime, even in this dreary state, is so good of a swordsman that Brienne almost doesn't stand a chance. Do you know how this show should have depicted that? I have just watched the duel from Troy between Brad Pitt (Achilles/god) and Hector. Brad Pitt is very calm during the fight and you can see that even though he moves fast as HELL, he is breathing slowly and steadily. Hector is getting more and more tired, breathing super fast, and getting drenched in sweat, his hair is oily and he can't keep up with Brad's pace. Brad Pitt employs EXTREME stability in his legs, for example when he lands from a jump he doesn't even boggle for one centimeter, he lands and stays in that position like a solid marble statue. Hector, in opposition, stumbles over a rock. Even in the movements it looks like Brad has something like a 6th sense that helps him predict Hectors attacks, and you can really FEEL the gap between a God at work, and a mere human, Hector. One last thing, you can see that Brad plays with Hector like with a toy. He could have killed him many times during the fight, but chose not to, when he punched Hector with his fist, or even just pushed him away with his bare hand. That's another way to further show his supremacy over Hector.
@Glory264
@Glory264 2 жыл бұрын
Hector stood his ground as long as humanly possible vs half god. After this Achilles was super pissed off and dragged him few circles around Troy to mock Hector stubbornness and arrogancy.
@jannovak6987
@jannovak6987 2 жыл бұрын
@@Glory264 yes
@DaveDexterMusic
@DaveDexterMusic 2 жыл бұрын
so... you think jaime should have been portrayed as a god in this duel?
@ethanrogers1389
@ethanrogers1389 2 жыл бұрын
Or basically just a very skilled swordsman
@-0rbital-
@-0rbital- Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was a great sword fight.
@jokerjj1000
@jokerjj1000 5 жыл бұрын
Wow from fighting her to knighting her Jaime has come a long way RESPECT
@alphanerd7221
@alphanerd7221 3 жыл бұрын
He respected her at the beginning here. Notice he is already referring to her as a knight.
@zilpzalpmukkefukk
@zilpzalpmukkefukk 2 жыл бұрын
they have such a nice chemistry
@callmev3531
@callmev3531 2 ай бұрын
0:22, It's a relatively small detail, but not only does Jaime expertly switch from abrasive spoiled royal to expert fighter in barely a second, but he further demonstrates his skill with how quickly and cleanly he slices the rope binding him right before he resumes his playful banter.
@downup-fx7wr
@downup-fx7wr 5 ай бұрын
Brienne immediately drawing her sword as soon as jaime stole hers just tells us how dangerous jaime is.
@Comicsluvr
@Comicsluvr 2 жыл бұрын
I love Jamie's attempted shoulder-shove that fails utterly. Being a good swordsman is one thing...but being stupid enough to think that you can defeat a fighter in full armor after being half-starved and abused really takes the cake.
@陳怡秀-r7y
@陳怡秀-r7y 2 жыл бұрын
Dude legit tried to shove someone heavier than him while he was dehydrated and starved lmao.
@superhydra8873
@superhydra8873 Жыл бұрын
Brienne was also starved and tired
@Zieg_Games
@Zieg_Games Жыл бұрын
In the books, Jaimie narrowly beats her
@blackmarketmedia3328
@blackmarketmedia3328 Жыл бұрын
Looking back...and pretending season eight never happened...Jamie really is the best character on this show.
@JakeKoenig
@JakeKoenig Жыл бұрын
That's Tywin, hands down.
@BittermanAndy
@BittermanAndy Жыл бұрын
@@JakeKoenig Tyrion, hands down.
@Fain255
@Fain255 Жыл бұрын
Tyrion, then Jaime
@mikhailabdurrachman2443
@mikhailabdurrachman2443 Жыл бұрын
Theon greyjoy Would like to have a word with you
@southfacetarivid5214
@southfacetarivid5214 Жыл бұрын
Thats the night king, hands up
@johnrobles191
@johnrobles191 3 ай бұрын
I love that Jaimie wasn’t strong enough to knock her down to push her over the bridge, she’s such a badass
@gtaquizmaster
@gtaquizmaster 23 күн бұрын
Yeah she’s really tall and really strong
@pilotboy2840
@pilotboy2840 Жыл бұрын
Notice how Jaime was actually giving Brienne a hard time at first it wasn't until towards the end he was starting to get tired and Brienne had the advantage
@spacemanspiff6332
@spacemanspiff6332 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Brienne makes a horse sound at the very end.
@nuclearwinter391
@nuclearwinter391 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame that the show couldn't display Jaime's legendary sword skills. Brienne was better than most knights of Westeros but Jaime was one of those exceptional natural swordsmen who come about in a century or so. This is further reinforced by her own testimony that it took all of her skill and strength to keep the Kingslayer at bay. Unhampered and at full strength no one could have stood before him.
@PantomimeHorse
@PantomimeHorse Жыл бұрын
Yeah; When Locke does what he does a few episodes from now, we see it, but don't truly _feel_ it because the show never really showed us Jaime at his best. It's still a great scene, but it tells a different story to the books; TV show Jaime is a good swordsman, sure, but over-praised due to his family name, raised to the kingsguard prematurely due to Aerys' animosity towards his father, and his fall from grace (and hence later redemption) begins, not with a lisping psychopath sellsword, but here on the bridge, beaten in pretty short order by a woman, not even a knight, who he arrogantly assumed to be lesser than himself.
@noahswiss1997
@noahswiss1997 Жыл бұрын
Yup cus d and d don’t know wtf to do soooooo
@Rexini_Kobalt
@Rexini_Kobalt 4 ай бұрын
the music is so perfect in this scene, not overly dramatic, not too loud... just right
@EvanMonroe
@EvanMonroe 5 жыл бұрын
This fight scene is longer than Captain Phasma's screentime in "The Force Awakens" and "The Last Jedi".
@Soil_Bound
@Soil_Bound 10 жыл бұрын
He said grimace. As in an angered-like expression. Dis-tasteful expression. In essence, he was saying by making that face you reveal that you are about to attack.
@HerePepPep
@HerePepPep 9 жыл бұрын
Uh, no shit. He literally said that.
@Soil_Bound
@Soil_Bound 9 жыл бұрын
This comment was meant to be replied to someone, directly... For whatever God-awful reason, KZbin Mobile fails to pinpoint my desired location. Someone in the comments could not decipher what Jaime tells Briene. So shove your no shits where the sun don't shine.
@Alexano101
@Alexano101 9 жыл бұрын
Erron Black Either the best put down I've seen since Barristan Selmy. Or you are the greatest troll in existence good sir. :)
@Soil_Bound
@Soil_Bound 9 жыл бұрын
alexano oneoone By the old Gods, and the new. I swear that I am not trolling.
@Alexano101
@Alexano101 9 жыл бұрын
Erron Black Haha. I'm a big fan Erron. You wreck on Mortal Kombat X.
@dylanhom58
@dylanhom58 2 жыл бұрын
"You shouldn't grimace before you lunge it gives away the game." *Immediately grimaces as he makes his next move* That aside though I fucking love this scene. Jaime's excitement and confidence with a sword in his hand for the first time in months, Brienne dropping into stance refusing to back down from one of the greatest swordsman alive. These two are about it when it comes to swordplay and it's awesome, sucks they never got to fight or spar with an even playing field, Jaime's at a huge disadvantage here but even at full strength with armor it would definitely be a fight
@gowestyoungman8184
@gowestyoungman8184 2 жыл бұрын
No, it wouldn't. The ONLY reason Brienne gets out of this fight alive is because he's been a prisoner for a year, starved and exhausted. In the books, he still outfights her even in this state and she decides to wrestle him with her superior strength. The show made it more even because that's somehow more cinematic, but the books scene is much more in line with the lore and both characters.
@Lads90
@Lads90 4 ай бұрын
If jaime just run away ,he still got his hand. With that heavy armor, she would never chase him 😂😂😂
@Ghasthund
@Ghasthund Жыл бұрын
I like how the longer the fight goes on the more Brienne realizes Jaime is getting weaker and weaker and she goes from 2 hands to 1. If he was a tad healthier he probably could’ve beaten her in the beginning, but because she was able to defend well in the start, he started losing the final reserves he had and she was able to treat him more bluntly. It started as life and death, and ended with a thump as he collapses from exhaustion, she barely even needs to hit him. She even starts to look at him differently as the fight drags on, starting extremely wary and defensive, and ending kind of annoyed and aggressively battering his sword away.
@featdirty1127
@featdirty1127 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there’s a line in the book about her thoughts in the fight. I’m not gonna directly quote it but she basically says that she knew that Jaime was exhausted after being a prisoner for so long, out of practice, and had his hands chained together and still put up a fight and clearly acknowledges that if Jaime were in better health he would’ve mopped the floor with her
@realnapster1522
@realnapster1522 Жыл бұрын
Feminist bullshit 😂
@TricksterPoi
@TricksterPoi 3 ай бұрын
Brienne admits that if Jaime was on his peak condition, she has no chance of winning let alone surviving.
@Birdsnest96
@Birdsnest96 5 жыл бұрын
And so the foreplay began
@johnysnoww3831
@johnysnoww3831 2 жыл бұрын
Its a shame that we didn't get to see more of Jamie's Sword fighting.
@JakeKoenig
@JakeKoenig Жыл бұрын
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau sucked at it, that's why.
@johnysnoww3831
@johnysnoww3831 Жыл бұрын
@@JakeKoenig They could've made it seem good, no actor knows how to use the long sword, and its just choreography, and after like 1 move they could cut and shoot the next one. So they could've made it work easily, i ques the lore couldn't find him anymore opponents that would've had change to beat him and after losing the hand he could've used the gold hand as a shield and then we could have few scenes more where he fights with his left hand.
@cgtainstudios.
@cgtainstudios. Жыл бұрын
Nikolaj is the best sword fighter ever.
@ZenZill
@ZenZill 3 ай бұрын
The final season could never end well, because these inter-scenes are what we crave. The slow development.
@ridufly4531
@ridufly4531 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone from 2nd episode?
@mohammedyakoob2035
@mohammedyakoob2035 5 жыл бұрын
Alright kid,you are a knight now! -Jamie Lannister
@Anonerak
@Anonerak 3 жыл бұрын
Jamie: I never understood why some knights feel the need to have two swords. Arthur Dane: To kick ass and takes names.
@Meylan191083
@Meylan191083 3 жыл бұрын
He is so gleeful at having a sword in his hands again and absolutely certain he will win. Oh dear.
@acrustykrab
@acrustykrab 3 жыл бұрын
He should've
@casefc3s
@casefc3s 2 жыл бұрын
watching this however many years later i just went "ohh! he has both hands!"
@Yardnoc3103
@Yardnoc3103 5 жыл бұрын
In the books Brienne's inner thoughts reveal that she doesn't believe she could have beaten Jaime if he wasn't slowed by the chains. Even with his handicap she still had a hard time against him.
@connor_kuolt5671
@connor_kuolt5671 3 жыл бұрын
I always forget how good of a swordsman Jamie was before he lost his hand
@Ivbo
@Ivbo 2 жыл бұрын
It’s such a damn shame we never really got to see Jaime fighting and dominating with his hand in this show…it would’ve been great to see him on the battlefield against Rob’s men just going ham.
@J1283-s1k
@J1283-s1k 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The only reason he didn't kill Robb in the books is his sword got stuck in someone else's head.
@giacomoromano8842
@giacomoromano8842 Жыл бұрын
@@J1283-s1k it got stuck on his way to Robb... by then, his elite companions were down and he was alone and surrounded. As great as younare, at that point it's game over.
@nuclearwinter391
@nuclearwinter391 Жыл бұрын
'It was one thing to slay a lion, another to hack his paw off and leave him broken and bewildered.'
@chillinoutmaxin4630
@chillinoutmaxin4630 2 жыл бұрын
This is still one of the best scenes in the series IMO, just two knights duking it out in the middle of nowhere. Also Brienne vs The Hound, and The Hound and Arya vs Joffrey's men in the Tavern. The road always had that dangerous feel when characters were travelling and we never knew what was going to happen. Gods the show was strong then...
@aboxofbeans
@aboxofbeans 2 жыл бұрын
Back when it took time (multiple episodes) to travel from one end of the continent to another, and it was possible for characters to encounter danger and death while traveling. Vs. the later seasons when characters just teleport across the map when the plot demands it
@bait5257
@bait5257 2 жыл бұрын
And it is BAD. it completely downplays Jamie unlike the books
@TheFreshTrumpet
@TheFreshTrumpet 2 жыл бұрын
@@bait5257 I just read an excerpt of their fight, where he gets exhausted quicker bc his skills decayed while imprisoned, how she kept cutting him and it chilled him to realize she was stronger. That’s exactly how I and most show-watchers interpreted it, what would you have added or changed to this scene to make it more faithful to his written character?
@bait5257
@bait5257 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFreshTrumpet You literally cut the most important part, POV of brienne. I know it's not possible in the show but at least indicate it in any way. In this scene it more look likes breinne's time to shine moment. Also, they added the unnecessary ned vs Jamie so now people think ned is on Par with Jamie. Jamie was supposed to be the strongest until he lost his hand. But the show never ever showed any sign of it Edit : the pov mentions how she thinks she had no chance of winning if Jamie wasn't chained or exhausted
@boarderz8275
@boarderz8275 Жыл бұрын
Hound vs Brienne is the best 1v1 in the series I reckon!
@EndThusIAm
@EndThusIAm 7 жыл бұрын
I just realized, this was the last time Jamie had both hands for a fight
@nelly9206
@nelly9206 8 жыл бұрын
So Brienne beat Jamie, The Hound, and Loras. Who's next? The Mountain?
@lesgalloiseries
@lesgalloiseries 8 жыл бұрын
I heard in season 7 they would bring Arthur Dayne back from the dead and she would beat the hell out of him.
@TheWoogie2
@TheWoogie2 8 жыл бұрын
She beat a weakened, chained Jaime and a sick, infected Hound. Arthur Dayne would destroy her.
@disturbed157
@disturbed157 8 жыл бұрын
Probably the Other is next
@АрсенийХарькин-ч4м
@АрсенийХарькин-ч4м 7 жыл бұрын
Wounded Stannis.
@billy-the-butcher
@billy-the-butcher 7 жыл бұрын
nelson diaz like Loras is proven to be a great challenge :p
@kacpers186
@kacpers186 2 жыл бұрын
It is sad for me to watch all those great epic scenes knowing how it all ends in one of the greatest disasters ever seen in filmmaking.
@jonn443
@jonn443 2 жыл бұрын
I love how her confidence and anger grows to where she is just toying with Jamie and fights with one hand.
@RedLaneArts
@RedLaneArts 2 жыл бұрын
That's just show off
@giacomoromano8842
@giacomoromano8842 Жыл бұрын
Considering Jaime conditions, at that point he was probably out of stamina and energies. Malnutrition and exhaustion are douches.
@H.K.5
@H.K.5 Жыл бұрын
That’s because Jaime was getting tired and you know what happens when you get tired.
@Zieg_Games
@Zieg_Games Жыл бұрын
The books have Jaimie pretty much beating Brienne. But the show went the "strong female protagonist" route
@grammarnazi9305
@grammarnazi9305 10 жыл бұрын
He had no armor, no training for over a year, had his hands chained up, dirty, and had walked hundreds of miles (tired) Now tell me, who do you think would've won.
@Dtown3
@Dtown3 10 жыл бұрын
he was def at a disadvantage but how does armor really play into that? in this scenario all it would do is slow him down
@engrRGV
@engrRGV 7 жыл бұрын
Grammar Nazi book jaime is supposed to be the best swordsman in westeros. Given his condition, im pretty sure he couls kill this wench in less than a minute
@thearmada6248
@thearmada6248 6 жыл бұрын
He was also slower and weaker since he was being starved for so so long
@rickrichie2018
@rickrichie2018 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly !! like how all these guys in full armor piss and shit. I know it takes ages for someone to put an armor on, even with other people helping. Do they have to take it off everytime they wanna piss ? Can they just sleep in it ???
@Hurrishane03
@Hurrishane03 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t change the fact that he still lost
@rickscott4717
@rickscott4717 5 жыл бұрын
I never read the books, so maybe this is hinted at. I think Jaime overestimated his cunning. He knew he might be at a disadvantage physically in a fight with her, but I think he counted on his trash talk to throw her off, as it did most other people. The problem is that because she had to put up with talk and demeaning behavior on an almost daily basis being a woman knight, she was unfazed by his attempts to get in her head.
@LordSkullkid
@LordSkullkid 5 жыл бұрын
No, the show never did justice to Jamie's sword skills. In the books the circumstances are similar but Brienne was barely able to keep up with Jamie even with movement advantage and stamina as well, Jamie is very weak and hasn't touched a sword in almost a year. But you can't have a man be better than a woman in something on TV, so Brienne beats Jamie with almost no effort
@SevereOutcast
@SevereOutcast 5 жыл бұрын
@@LordSkullkid In the book, after Brienne defends against Jaime's relentless assault and he peters out, she tackles him into the water and dashes his skull against some rocks in the shallows. Here, she just disarms him with no damage done after doing the exact same strategy. Just say you hate women and go.
@LordSkullkid
@LordSkullkid 5 жыл бұрын
@@SevereOutcast first of all she disarmed Jamie with almost no effort. And yes in the book she tackles him and defeated him that way. I don't hate women, I hate how they were portayed in this show. GRRM said himself that if he was to choose a warrior dor a trial by combat he would hace chosen either Arthur Dayne of Jamie Lannister, but because of them was dead and Jamie lost a hand he chose Brienne. Meaning Jamie Lannister is a better swordsman and in this scene was easily defeated
@wizzi11able
@wizzi11able 3 жыл бұрын
@@SevereOutcast great interpretation, she tackles him why? It's like you don't know how to read, stop being dishonest, this scene does no credit to Jaime.
@Cailus3542
@Cailus3542 3 жыл бұрын
@@LordSkullkid That's because the books did a poor job with this. GRR Martin, for all his talent as an author, doesn't have a clue what swordfighting is like. I don't care how skilled Jamie is. If he's that weak and tired, he wouldn't last five minutes against a skilled swordsman or woman. This is one area where the show is better than the books.
@wesleykill33
@wesleykill33 2 жыл бұрын
At first I didn’t like the fighting as it looked like she was pulling her strikes. But as soon as I thought about it and realized she wasn’t even trying to kill him, the pulling back made a lot more sense and made the scene that much better.
@matthewmercer2477
@matthewmercer2477 11 ай бұрын
Excellent acting, loved GOT more than any series.
@ezekiel201997
@ezekiel201997 5 жыл бұрын
and now at season 8, jamie knighted brienne, what a character development
@ferdinand5223
@ferdinand5223 5 жыл бұрын
RIP character development.
@robertc7232
@robertc7232 11 ай бұрын
Speaks to Jaime's skill that he gave Brienne a fight even though his hands were chained and he was weakened by malnourishment and fatigue from being a prisoner for so long. If he was as fresh as Brienne was here, I doubt she lasts long against him.
@nykia31
@nykia31 2 жыл бұрын
0:30-0:40 The few expressions of genuine joy that we see from Jaime, in this series, is when he has a sword in his hand.
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 11 ай бұрын
1:07 Listen to the tauntive cunning in his voice. He sounds exactly like Tyrion!
@ioanevans6763
@ioanevans6763 3 ай бұрын
1:20 - 1:24 He actually had her there
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