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[@lesliedemarco1691]

It's horrible how badly Hef treated him. He's such a nice guy, so sweet. Just shows what an insecure you-know-what Hef was, to be jealous of a guy that was NOT interested in women!!!!!

[@KingBrokenCode]

I doubt he was jealous. He didnt want a man photographed or filmed with his women because the whole point of his operation was an entourage of pretty girls as eye candy. He wasnt in the business of funding this guys friendships and vacations. If you hired a guy to mow your lawn and he was swimming in your pool drinking and you fired him or sent him back to work would it be because your so jealous or because your a boss and he is your employee. The girls wernt getting that life style for nothing. They belonged to Hef and they agreed to it. Anyone could walk away from allllll that money if they wanted.

[@lesliedemarco1691]

@@KingBrokenCode I disagree

[@lalam3877]

I think the larger reason that Hef didn’t want Stephen giving the girls the attention that he saw him give. He enjoyed depriving the girls where he wanted. He didn’t want the girls getting their fill from some other guy. I think he saw that the girls were happy around Stephen and he didn’t like that. Holly and Stephen explain this in this episode. It makes sense. All the playmates he ever dated all say that about him. That he was extremely insecure and jealous.

[@AymeeDonovan]

​@Bonafidegoldie I agree with you, he keeps saying the girls were his "friends" . They were his clients for a job ! He's got this all wrong, Hef wanted him to know his place . I don't think Hef is jealous either , he wanted him to be professional and know the boundaries.

[@lns4life]

He aged beautifully! How is he even more handsome now?!

[@leahb1233]

I thought the same! Men typically get better looking as they age and we have to try so hard to do the same!

[@KlaraBreznik-jm9pj]

Muscles.

[@evanshearin6490]

This is a man who clearly understands skin care.

[@r12joy96]

Hef being so jealous of a gay makeup artist that he banned him from joining them on the excursions or doing makeup in their hotel room is ridiculous. He was such a creepy crazy old man. He was probably jealous he was too old to walk around with them all.

[@Jprager]

I mean let’s be honest, Steven is a conventionally good looking guy, and coupled with him being younger it’s no wonder Hef would feel some sort of way.

[@ShindlersFiist]

The girls have mentioned the ordeal a couple of times in the podcast and throughout the years. It's just unbelievable. Hef was convinced he wasn't gay and that it was all a ploy to sleep with the girls. 😆 I mean, come on!

[@elizabeth23589]

@@Jpragerwho is also openly gay!

[@cleigh3796]

​@@Jprager Their response isn't simply about Hef's thoughts, but his actions.

[@Jprager]

@@elizabeth23589 being that Hef was older, his generation doesn’t necessarily subtract that notion the way society does now, back then in Hef time it was relatively unheard of, as most gay/queer individuals remained hidden

[@mikegarcia597]

It would be fun to see Holly do make up on one of her friends on her own KZbin channel. If you look back, she’s actually a very talented makeup artist. She was doing a lot of the tips and tricks years before they were even a thing and had names to them.

[@imahorseygal1]

She is so good with makeup! I've watched all her tutorials and I try to copy them and I just can't do it😂

[@janicetehie3839]

Holly can turn her hand to practically anything. I remember when she stenciled or drew a mural for her daughter's nursery before she was born, and it was wonderful. I think.Holly could have another career as an artist or makeup artist if she wanted.

[@h0llasamantha]

I love hearing these stories from an “outsider” perspective. It adds even more texture and color to the picture. So interesting!

[@ShindlersFiist]

Map quest! Who here remembers using that and how much that was a pain? 😂❤

[@julief2830]

we printed pages 😂😂

[@TheLauraVEffect]

Before GPS, if you got lost, you had to use paper maps and/or literally find somewhere to stop to talk to a human that can help you find the right highway to get on, going in the right direction.... 😂

[@giaafshar8419]

map quest was awesome. i would tight it out directions and basically learned the route before starting

[@ShanLH5]

Omg I had to drive from Pittsburgh to Cleveland once for work back in 2002 using Mapquest directions that my supervisor gave me… the directions were old and I discovered a bit late into my journey that all the exit numbers on that interstate had been changed 😩

[@Jprager]

We used them all the time on vacations I wasn’t old enough to drive at the time. But I remember it being so tedious to have to look up and print everything

[@ytuseracct]

Poor Stephen walking and carrying his kit and stuff :(

[@ashsweetjones]

This made me SO sad to hear. Couldn’t even stay at the same hotel as the rest of the crew.

[@DisruptorMind]

So messed up 😡

[@redraven7948]

Awwwww.... So good to see Steven,Holly & Bridgette together again!! Steven is so handsome & loved listening to all the reminiscing. 💜

[@wildcat62282]

Stephen was one of my favs. Him and Bryant! Two amazing episodes, thank you for having I’m on! We need a part 2!!

[@kelbell9522]

I would lose my mind if the two of you did a makeover show that featured your most loved makeup artists where you give beauty advice . Like your makeover for Anastasia only with random fans.

[@dustin628]

Oh we need way more stories! You gotta have this guy back, as a hairstylist myself trust and believe he has stories for days and knows all the inside scoop

[@rudegalstill9544]

Love this episode Holly, Bridget and Stephen!!! 💇‍♀️ 💄

[@shirl3942]

Bridget always rallys for the underdog. Such a "Sweet Soul!"

[@objectivealchemy]

The drop on Aries is mind opening - I'm Aries rising & my mom an Aries. Explains allot. Looking back on a long life and the inner f'd up issues about why we acted certain ways. Nice interview. He is so sweet, and I'm so sad he cried 😢 .

[@somewheresilverlake]

everything he said is in general SOLID business advice. like the poeple you work with are colleagues not freinds. do you job and leave -- dont linger. but also like know what you're selling. know your worth and dont let people low ball you. annnnnnd that who you know is more imporant than what you know. like really solid life advice

[@marykedutoit1986]

Can relate with Steven. I still get those moments that I feel like I dont feel I deserve to be somewhere or I get imposter syndrome. Steven actually has a very high emotional intelligence....❤

[@KlaraBreznik-jm9pj]

Waiting for Brian Olea to come to the show :)

[@ChimeraTruely]

Please bring him back so we can be excited for, & support, his next projectes! It is always wonderful to hear what the "flys on the wall" experienced. 🥰

[@SuperBikeRacer7]

I'm so glad Steven got his chance to travel while being treated as a friend by Mel B (the most awesome Spice Girl) to make up for that painful treatment he received from hef! 1:09:10

[@SianPressly]

LOVED this episode!! as a fellow makeup artist it was so cool to hear Stephen's experiences and his perspective, love you all xxx

[@LatinaChef1986]

Steven seems like a fun person to be around and is genuine. It’s pretty pathetic that Hef was jealous of a man who clearly isn’t into women. Bridgette and Kendra looked fabulous due to his awesome work! I really enjoyed this episode. ❤

[@aaronxalapa]

one of my favorite episodes

[@MickeyHail]

Great interview! Loved seeing Steven and his insight during the show. It's too bad that Kendra has a reputation of stabbing people in the back or just having zero responsibility for her own actions. Love the POD

[@Atoasterinthedesert]

why am I so parasocial feeling like I know these ladies. LOL I love them so much. I wish they were my sisters.

[@Genesis-v]

He is so sweet! Loved this episode 💖

[@GG-jiggles]

I remember him!!! The funniest moment was when Kendra crashed out, and he was laughing so freaking hard 🤣🤣 while Kendra's Mom and Grandma were crying 😂😂 I had to rewind that part like three times because I was laughing so hard at how hard he was laughing 😂😂😂

[@GG-jiggles]

Speaking of that, how did Kendra even crash out there?! 🤣🤣 Like girl turn the wheel

[@MultiFantastical]

Poor Steven. Id hate being left by myself in Europe. It's crazy that Hef didn't let you take the bus to Pompeii and explore on your own. How ridiculous and deeply unkind. But... That's Hef. 😂😂

[@stephanyMQ]

We need part 2 with more stories!

[@SteelMagnolia99]

yay!!! i've been wanting beauty content from y'all!!🙌💕

[@JessicaLeiti-pm5kt]

I love this show. Thank you girls🫂🥰

[@ting1565]

Loving all these guests!

[@ytuseracct]

Enjoyed this episode

[@felicitelor]

Amazing episode, they just keep getting better!!! 💘

[@leahb1233]

Holly! A tutorial for your up-do please! 😍

[@angelicmejia7196]

Been waiting for this one 🎉

[@petrabaye]

Hey, I’m not sure if this goes with the timeline but could have gotten in trouble for offering his hat for your bloody nose!!😢❤

[@samanthafylderslate4023]

😮

[@gabbyg8941]

Your dress designs are stunning❤

[@Bambi568]

I had the same experience he did in Paris. The people were exceptionally rude to Americans

[@QUEENVLOGZZBYKALIOFFICIAL]

Yay love the visual after listening to the podcast audio early a.m

[@joeleelozano7913]

Love Steven hope u have him back 4 another pod❤❤

[@SandraSoapbox]

I remembered how E! promoted the Kardashians as "the girls next door to The Girls Next Door." Memory unlocked. 1:01:30

[@mrsmcintyre69]

Ive been rewatching the show and have noticed that her moods are super erratic..knowing what we know now about her mental health struggles im wondering if that is what we are seeing in the early seasons. Ive also thought maybe she was using some kind of substance and going through withdrawals at times.

[@heiroot]

Holly or Bridget?

[@bethika643]

@heiroot I think they're talking about Kendra

[@cleigh3796]

It's one thing to speculate about or comment on their mental state, like 'wow Kendra was really anxious before she gave that speech at Hef's birthday party', or 'Holly seemed annoyed at Kendra in this scene', that type of commentary is warranted and inevitable when someone is on TV, but your comment takes it a step further. It's quite a leap in logic to speculate about someone's mental health based on their behavior on a reality TV show. Like all reality TV shows, some scenes and dialogue on GND are scripted by the producers, the people on the show know they can't be being boring to watch so they have to sometimes exaggerate their reactions to things, and the show is edited to establish and sometimes fake a certain narrative. H&B have established all 3 things clearly and repeatedly on this podcast. I would say, and I think you would agree, that she has a pattern of seeming disinterested in being filmed, and she expresses annoyance and frustration in a louder way than others would in the same situation, but she seems happy again in what we are led to believe is quickly afterwards. I'm saying these things not to hate on her, but to say that yes, I understand how those things would lead to speculation. But watching the show isn't enough to base speculation about psychopathology affecting her emotional regulation, impulsivity, or something like that on. It wasn't like she was clearly hallucinating or started talking like she was having a stroke, situations where anyone could tell something was wrong (although those things wouldn't have been included in the show in the first place). I don't care for Kendra so I'm surprised to find myself defending her in a sense, but I just had to point out how baseless your theories are, even in light of her current struggles. Especially the speculation about withdrawal.

[@birdofsatan]

Waiting for the beauty secrets and just got reason #333367 to hate Hef. So awful how absolutely everyone got treated.

[@allornothing1537]

Great episode. What a lovely man. I'm always in awe of talented makeup artists as I am not very skilled in that department.

[@agi1950]

Great episode.Aww Steve. Hef and the show did you dirty. 😢

[@sarah29880]

He seems so nice! Hef and the show didn’t treat him with the respect he deserved.

[@madcoolclips2800]

Supremely awesome video Girls Next Level 👍

[@949queenb]

I’ve been waiting for this episode!!!!!♥️♥️♥️

[@merlacr16]

I love hearing Stephen perspective as a makeup artist. I aspire to be a makeup artist and work for the beauty business.

[@ashleymills9886]

The Cheetah! OMG. I was listening to your voice and you sounded just like an old friend. Turns out, you're just a fellow ATLein. Great interview!

[@kipherkelly3602]

You two are fantastic and very authentic when speaking about your lives. I find it so odd that anyone in entertainment would think less of people who did Playboy. Playboy's pictorials are art. Very sensual, sexy, and high quality. It was not overt sex. Rather sensual, sexual, and of very high quality. When there is so much more sex in TV shows and movies, it is strange for anyone to judge those who did Playboy. Sure, the other aspects are concerning(issues raised at mansion), but not the work itself.

[@malibooo]

The episode we've all been waiting for!!!!! OMG OMG OMG

[@kelmarch100]

Loved this episode - what a nice and quality man. And love you two ladies! OG here that watched the series in real time, religiously. 🎉 How did time fly like it did?!

[@missprivy]

Bridget, you look amazinggg love your hairstyle!!

[@ghostangel333]

This was such a good episode. Gotta have Holly's iconic "bye" at the end 💗💗😂😂

[@shadowbaby4312]

I wish I could put into words how MUCH I've enjoyed all these videos you're putting out. I watched the show back in the day and always really loved you, Holly, and Bridget. I've been very depressed lately (it's cold atm where I'm at) and these videos, and seeing you guys again have done wonders for my mood! Please never go away! 🤗❤ Also, so excited to finially get some of those adorbale tube socks Holly. 😄

[@charlietheory4100]

Everyone coming back for new episodes looks incredible like even better than they did in the 2000s ❤

[@heatherward1807]

Fellow Aries here! I feel awful for how you were treated in Paris, but thank you for this fascinating perspective xx ❤

[@frankiegenevieve]

The stories are SO GOOD

[@ivanroxxs]

Come on upgraded production, loves it…

[@xKarenWalkerx]

Mary O'Connor went hard!!! ☠️😭

[@ghostangel333]

"I'll just be over here interrupting as I usually do" 😂😂Love it.

[@jennyonthecoast]

It’s eye opening how many red flags come up with Hugh and people treated him as a icon

[@liveloveresell2886]

Crazy that he was even asked to hustle kendra along. Like everyone was responsible for her except for KENDRA

[@juliaschneider2493]

Love Stephen! His IG lives during covid lockdown were amazing!!!!

[@notversatilevicky]

It's so fun to hear from an outsider who had that up close look!

[@Heymuskrats]

Love this episode format❤

[@MmmKimboSlice]

Wow that sounds so stressful amd overwhelming navigating all that, and not feeling welcolmed.

[@GGLaVitaMia]

He is so fab! Really enjoyed this episode. Great interview! 💖

[@anastasiastassie5439]

Yayyy!!!! A new podcast! 😊

[@kowgyrl]

I LLLOVE this one!!!! It's my new favorite!!!!🥰💖

[@stud88100]

I can't believe the way that Hef treated him. It sounds like he felt threatened that another guy liked the girls as friends. There is nothing wrong with having friends

[@PinkWetKisses]

great episode! 🎉❤

[@marriedtomowgli]

So interesting! I love every episode but loved this one too! 💕 and stephen is so real and honest 🤍

[@verohdz]

Enjoyed this interview.

[@itsokmaybe]

Loved the episode💖

[@phaedrateodoros8508]

Ok nice but no beauty secrets.

[@Flyonyourwall]

I don’t mind your paid sponsor breaks, but could we try and fit them in after a topic and before a new one, not in the middle of the sentance/topic?

[@mayafrode7794]

I remember the episodes with all of you!

[@AmandaTocco-ww9qi]

Really love that episode!!

[@kaliwest8420]

u guys look so good❤

[@marycastellanos2955]

Loved this episode ❤ so good but felt like it needed to be longer

[@julief2830]

Great interview! Please keep bringing on the guests!

[@kaylheecarroll3186]

Steven looks great 😊💞!

[@MyuhHostess]

As a dermatologist I use benzoyl peroxide after I get out of the shower. And If I don't take a we shower for a couple days I have no bo.you just have to kill the bacteria. Or use native😅

[@heiroot]

How do you prevent towel stains from it?

[@stephenmaher1029]

Lovely ladies! Tell Steve I don’t like Kendra very much either 🤗

[@sonjagrotjan4265]

Ummmmmm, I love him! Great interview/convo😊

[@debroy3262]

This guy is awesome!

[@oliviabirch1025]

I LOVED Steven!!!!

[@Xanadu92]

Holly, loving your kicks! ❤

[@crystalizer_]

Love this interview! Steven will you be my friend??? Lol

[@chickeastwater9883]

1:27 not one spot, , on the Shirts. Ha Ha Ha

[@dd4850]

My elderly aunt still prints out map quest directions ❤😂

[@Popcorn11852]

This is a good one

[@ratpitt4292]

Imagine an 80+ year old millionaire hating on a 26 year old doing his job! They asked Steven to go on that fckn trip to do his job. The AUDACITY of Hef 🤮🤮🤮🤮 And the worst thing is that everyone played along because he was so controlling of them too.

[@Emmastayofftheinternet]

Kendra was a nightmare of a person and incould tell that through the tv screen. She annoyed me so much

[@monical9972]

Great conversation!

[@mikehisey2631]

This guy has to write a book !!!! 📕

[@rebeccasummers]

Holly - did you choose not to get hair and makeup? Just curious. Sorry if you already said and I missed it ! Xx

[@lalam3877]

She does talk about this early on. I can’t remember her reasonings, but I think it was that she didn’t know there was a makeup artist and hairstylist on hand until much later but she was already doing her own hair and makeup by that point. She did begin to use the hairstylist after she learned about them eventually but continued to do her own makeup. Something like that.

[@heiroot]

8:45 the StepFord wives

[@Cjandlindseyland]

i love how holly says bye...cracks me up every time she dose it!

[@Brittfoxy]

❤ loved this ❤