".. my shaft is a bit longer than the basket..." Mustie1 says; "There's a joke in there somewhere."
@Homebrew582 жыл бұрын
There was a guy in Michigan named John Twist at University Motors (now closed) in Grand Rapids who was a magician with British cars. He is retired but I believe he still gives seminars and workshops. The next time you have a British car and have questions he would be someone to call. I've owned a couple of MGB's and at first those SU carburetors were intimidating but after watching John's KZbin videos and some advice from the MG Experience forum I came to love them. I converted one car back from a modern Weber that a previous owner had installed back to SU's and it ran so much better.
@dakotasclassiccars72462 жыл бұрын
I got a real cool project out there. Just waiting on my machine shop to get me my heads back! But being patient and paying him well as you say.
@andoletube2 жыл бұрын
When Davin says "get out in the shop and get your work done", it actually makes me go and do it! Thanks, Davin!
@autka_me2 жыл бұрын
same here
@mickvonbornemann382412 күн бұрын
The Chrysler slant 6 looks great with triple SUs, a popular mod in Oz. Much neater with triple cables rather than messy linkages
@Danger_mouse2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE SU carbs! Such a great carb to drive and work with. We ran our class built Datsun 1600 (510) on the Factory Hitachi SUs and loved them 👌 Never went out of tune for rally after rally with the Japanese linkage system.
@seabirdjim Жыл бұрын
SU carburetors are among the best. The Hagerty videos are very engaging, well done and informative. This one is no different. Great job. A side note. Making a custom intake manifold for a Harley-Davidson MC from some aluminum tubing and plate that enables you to affix an SU to your Harley improves performance of your MC quite a bit. Getting it jetted correctly isn’t that hard and it’s worth the effort. I did this many years ago with a 1956 KHK I had. The SU carb and some other improvements I made to its breathing made that rascal run fast.
@13slot282 жыл бұрын
This thing is gonna run better then it did when it came off the assembly line.
@wolfiewoolliscoft75182 жыл бұрын
Greetings from the UK - cant wait to HEAR that Mini Cooper fire up - weel done as ever
@sofarracing39012 жыл бұрын
Davin, really enjoy your videos, your varied language and kind ways! Would have enjoyed working with you if that ever would have happened!
@docwood6662 жыл бұрын
G'day Hagerty Channel. I am not a professional mechanic as yourselves, but I have been working on Mini's for several decades. Regarding the rebuild of your SU carb's, I would advise you to do a couple of things. - You should do a balance check - to make sure the dashpots fall at the same rate. Now that you've replaced the jets, you might want to consider checking that the jet seats correctly. You may have done all of this off screen, but if not, I'd be happy to take you through this in detail if needed. Getting them balanced and set up correctly will make the tuning process much less painful. Thanks for the great channel. Very entertaining and informative. Cheers.
@denisbellars92602 жыл бұрын
Loving your Mini build , cant wait to see it fully assembled !
@russnixon60202 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the throttle shaft bushings. They wear and leak air making achieving a good idle and balance impossible. There are sealed ball bearing kits available. Moss Motors has a good page on re-bushing the carb bodies. Oh yeah, turn between centers...
@timothydeyoung56532 жыл бұрын
I like to watch all your engine assemblies no matter how boring they are to you
@michaelpagliarini47852 жыл бұрын
Hay David don't forget to stake the butter fly screws. Or some type of lock tight. I had one back out on me . Let say the valve didn't like it very much. That was a early learning experience for me.
@johnpearson4922 жыл бұрын
I love the SU carburetor, it's so simple, self metering, easy to tune, and reliable. I've played with many types of carbs and I genuinely think the SU is the best to use. I particularly enjoy the simplicity of the fuel enrichment by pulling down the jet instead if having a choke.
@levellovell2 жыл бұрын
I like this channel. My dad has an Austin Healey 3000 mk2. The carbs look the same. It's been being restored for some time. No end in sight. My mom is from Detroit.
@scottimusgarrett152 жыл бұрын
Really, really nice job on those carbs, Davin! I can just imagine what some dude, somewhere, is spending on shipping his SU's back to Jolly Ol' Britain to get redone! I always enjoy your episodes, but because I love Minis, and the engine is so unique for its day, this rebuild is especially fun. Kudos to everyone involved!
@aaronbehindbars2 жыл бұрын
If you don't happen to have a lathe, chuck that rocker shaft (or whatever you might want rotating to polish/clean) into a drill and do it to it. I've done this on old bicycle axles where there was some pitting on the bearing race cones and it's a good shadetree way of "machining" a surface. Not the most precision way of doing things, but it works for old beaters.
@Hagerty2 жыл бұрын
Awesome tip!
@N-Scale2 жыл бұрын
Way to go Davin. That is gonna be sweet !!!!
@kentowakai12342 жыл бұрын
My dream would be to hang out with you all and rebuild any car. I'd happily push a broom all day as long as I could absorb the knowledge. I could justify the tools if I had the knowledge, and I'd get the confidence to try more. Also happy you have teamed with Rock Auto. I am happy to give them money compared to A*******n.
@markbremmer86422 жыл бұрын
Rock Auto uses all imported parts primarily.
@donaldasayers2 жыл бұрын
I've Got a tea crate full of SU carbs in the shed.
@darryl33922 жыл бұрын
I gotta get me a vapour hone cabinet and a tumbler. I like shiny mini parts 😊👍
@bielbills2 жыл бұрын
Vapour blasting is sooooooo satisfying!!!
@dennisp.21472 жыл бұрын
Pro-tip: Instead of Lemi-shine, use bulk citric acid crystals. It's exactly the same thing at 1/10th of the cost.
@mannys91302 жыл бұрын
You buy convenience with Lemi-Shine. You can't run out real quick to buy bulk citric acid at Walmart. But yes, you are totally correct on this. 👌
@dennisp.21472 жыл бұрын
@@mannys9130 Amazon delivers it in 24 hours. You don't often have to "run out" for it when you have a 15 pound bag.
@Whateverpoopiepants2 жыл бұрын
From the uk , played with a few minis including a 69 850 . Those engines never looked as good as yours , Stella work . Love the videos . Happy new year .
@SootHead2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, I did a lot of those old A-Series engines and almost never had reusable rocker shaft or rocker bushings.The shafts were pretty poor material and wore out in the 80K miles those engines usually got before needing an upper end overhaul. Maybe that one was replaced at some point.
@Dancing_Alone_wRentals2 жыл бұрын
tHanks for posting Jim. I have loads of these parts that sat for decades. I can't tell what will be able to be saved and what won't. I keep thinking "keep the original" but recognize that may be foolish thinking. For now, I'm just moving crates of parts to better storage.
@paulsilva33462 жыл бұрын
I concur 110% James.! Hagerty takes 20 minutes to assemble a 4-BBL carb, and 4 mins for our Furend parts.! Aggravating...
@BaseSRKI2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for the next video!
@michaelmaclean28922 жыл бұрын
The wear on the rocker shaft will cause a decrease in oil pressure. Cheap insurance to just buy a new one. Good thing you did one carb at a time as you cannot mix and match parts when it comes to the piston and suction chambers.
@Justsaying123472 жыл бұрын
This takes me back to my apprenticeship, my word.......
@sidneybolt1099 Жыл бұрын
Great carb strip down but what would really help those of us that don’t have a reference carb is to show how that torsion spring fits for the choke.
@invertedpolarity68902 жыл бұрын
I wish you guys would do more in-depth build videos. Time-lashes are great but it’s nice when you show everything.
@woodyTM2 жыл бұрын
Albeit I entirely agree, they probably don't have the time or resources to film for such things often. Not to mention KZbins viewer retention, for videos that long, usually suffer greatly discouraging creators like Hagerty to produce long elusive content. In my honest opinion most, if not all, of these quick videos show you more than enough to replicate the build process yourself. Chances are if you have this engine in front of you on a stand, you should probably already have done your research on it, which is just a few clicks away these days. From my perspective these videos best serve as a form of commemorating these engines and the legacy of each vehicle while also exposing those who aren't able to have the opportunity to see the innerworkings at such an in-depth level.
@barryphillips73272 жыл бұрын
SU=Skinners Union, a very old English Company. An SU is a very simple carburetor yet reliable and very efficient, they are almost as good as EFI with an SU carb you can NOT over carburate because they use engine the engine sucks in what it needs, mixture is set by adjusting the needle which controls the mixture. An HIF6 SU ( SU, HIF= High Air Flow ) they can flow as much air/fuel as a side draught Weber for a lot less money!
@rogjackson2 жыл бұрын
Those carbs really cleaned up.
@ronlynch77442 жыл бұрын
Carburetors look new now. 😎👍🇨🇦
@carburist2 жыл бұрын
Whilst in your case you had the opportunity of running the carbs before dis assembly, you should allways check the clearances of the throttle shaft and the body. They are the aquiles heel of the unit as the bronze shaft tends to wear away the aluminium casting on hogh mileage cars leading to rough idle due to air leaks. You can fix that either via oversize shafts or bushings which are relatively easy fixes. Again, in your case probably not a bid deal as the units looked to be in relatively good condition. Presumably you changed the throttle screws (which are withworth threads!) What solution do you use in the ultrasonic cleaner? Keep wrenching! you are the reason I am suscribed to this channel.
@paulsilva33462 жыл бұрын
Not done in a 4-minutes shoot...
@bobbarron69692 жыл бұрын
Replacing the throttle shaft bushings on the SU's in my P1800S was essential to actually being able to adjust and balance the carbs.
@paulsilva33462 жыл бұрын
@@bobbarron6969 EXACTLY.! Bob I agree, my Zenith 175CD's needed them BADLY.
@9psi2 жыл бұрын
Never saw a throttle shaft that didn’t act as a idle butterfly valve bypass :)
@Friedbrain112 жыл бұрын
I loved my Buick 3.8L...warts and all. It is still a great motor!
@csakbencee2 жыл бұрын
the wear on the rocker shaft is visible on the video. a new shaft is ~20 bucks
@mohamedzulkifly89662 жыл бұрын
Waitin.. For the finale💪
@ALPMotor12632 жыл бұрын
Great skill mecanic rebuilt
@Priyatech19853 ай бұрын
I want this carburetor 😊
@BWGPEI2 жыл бұрын
I had two SU carbs on a 1969 Volvo 122S. My biggest problem was the bushings on the throttle shaft - if these are worn you have problems with idle mixtures because the worn bushings / shaft form a vacuum leak. You need to a) get new bushings and throttle shafts, b) drive out the old bushings, c) drive in new bushings and most important d) ream those new bushings for an almost zero clearance on the new throttle shaft -the old snug but free business. There were no shaft seals on the old SU carbs I had. Lucky for me a local mechanic had the reamer, because the reamers were a scare commodity. FYI: We used ATF as damper fluid, and not brake fluid as some suggested at the time. A wise owner will clean the dash pots ever fall so as to remove any moisture 'cause they can freeze in the winter time making for a no start condition. Likewise these parts must remain perfectly clean, no dust or dirt to disturb the air bearing area. When they work they are fantastically good carbs!
@ldnwholesale85522 жыл бұрын
Been there done that. Though with three! The carbs to use for all you desperados out there is the pre emission carbs with floating needles. You cannot buy a decent needle for the emission carbs for tuning. A heap of needles are/ were available for the non smog carbs. IF set up properly they are near trouble free. Smooth idle though is sometimes an issue. Until recently I had Holden 6s here with triple 45mm Webers and and still have another with triple 1 3/4 SUs. Both on racecars but were very reliable.
@davidwalker68872 жыл бұрын
You also need to bolt the transfer case to the gearbox with the idler gear installed and check the idler gear thrust clearance.
@DustinSeiger2 жыл бұрын
Looking fantastic!
@zerobudget26492 жыл бұрын
Damn it I've been watching this from the start it's different
@matthyatt31432 жыл бұрын
Another great episode! I Would love to see the dyno numbers of these full engine builds.
@TimsWorkshopTJY2 жыл бұрын
Cool, never seen carbs like that before
@nathangreer82192 жыл бұрын
"and now Ed for the weather report!"
@jamesdiehl86902 жыл бұрын
Cold project maybe! It's only just above freezing!
@claymore4402 жыл бұрын
I hope you added some lock tight or other locking material to those throttle plate screws. Or staked them.
@nickpappas41332 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, certainly don’t want the motor to swollen one
@THROTTLEPOWER2 жыл бұрын
Great vid!! 👍👍👍
@BangerFleet2 жыл бұрын
I dunno man, is a carb SU rebuild without rebushing the throttle shafts or at least replacing them really a rebuild? I guess you’ll know when its running and spray some carb cleaner near the throttle shafts and hear the idle change.
@matthewhelton17252 жыл бұрын
Depends on how much wear, but it's a decent thing to call out: These carbs had a reputation for getting wear.
@johnpearson4922 жыл бұрын
When I rebuilt mine, the holes were in perfect shape, the brass throttle shaft was 1/4 worn away, a new shaft and it was perfect like new. I had no need to bush the holes.
@jamesklove96292 жыл бұрын
Cool car,I’m back to fixing the snowblower that won’t run ,thanks to the internet everything is possible
@davebarron59392 жыл бұрын
How come I am hearing "come together" by the Beatles right now?
@alexyo39272 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'd vapour blast everything of it had one haha
@diecastcollector5082 жыл бұрын
SUPERB!! 👍
@ACDodd2 жыл бұрын
You just did the classic mistake, what you fitted was a service kit and not a rebuild kit. You need to look at the play in the throttle spindles and wear in the bodies. Engine will run poorly if this is not addressed. I rebuild lots of these in the uk if you need help give me a shout.
@martinpither51292 жыл бұрын
Did you check the code on the needle that goes into the jet (against the replacement in the kit) as they are different for many applications, especially if the engine has been modified. Agree on all the comments on the rocker bushes and rocker shaft. You loose a lot of valve lift if there is any wear in these parts...they are so cheap, its simpler to get new / uprated parts like roller rockers
@Kickinpony662 жыл бұрын
Those SU Carburetors seem to be like motorcycle carburetors. @9:10... I think your cameraman likes it! 😜😜
@artmcewen31652 жыл бұрын
Multi $1k lathe as parts cleaner, yeah practical home tip…. :)
@shanerorko80762 жыл бұрын
Then after you do the rockers you can do 300 cases of 308w.
@djverhulst2 жыл бұрын
I rebuild a lot of those in the past
@jamesdiehl86902 жыл бұрын
Or take pictures while you're disassembling?
@p.d.nickthielen66002 жыл бұрын
I have an old advert with Devin featured as a parts runner If I send it with a return envelope would Devin sign it and send it back? I think it will class up the man cave.
@BarracudaBoy2 жыл бұрын
if pressure is an issue with the dishwasher soap then try the non-sudsing dishwasher machine soap.
@mickvonbornemann382412 күн бұрын
You know BMW K1 16 valve heads fit the BMC A Series with only a little moding
@peterjohnson81062 жыл бұрын
What mesh media do you use for the vapor blast? For the tumbler, try Cascade dish washing detergent, it is non-foaming and non-spotting and you can use any concentration you want.
@Hagerty2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what size they are, but we use a glass bead media.
@peterjohnson81062 жыл бұрын
@@Hagerty The size should be on the drum you get it in. It will be marked as a screen size like 120-200 or a 2 didget number, 120-200 is size No. 11. The higher the number the finer the media just like sand paper
@paulwiggans36922 жыл бұрын
Never, ever fully grip a shaft rotating in the lathe. If that scotchbrite grips it will tear your arm off. Support it from underneath resting on your fingers and use kero or coolant to wash the debris away.
@EchoSigma62 жыл бұрын
Those will work nice on a Datsun L16-18 motor.
@ldnwholesale85522 жыл бұрын
Not 1 1/4, way too small. 1 1/2 for stock and 1 3/4 for a serious engine. Though a pair of 40 or42mm Webers are better
@bobstopthat2 жыл бұрын
How about a minute or two of "here's how the side draft SU's function" when you install them or tune them. I rebuilt twin SU's on my TR-3 and never understood it then or now. I took it to someone to have them tuned and he said "who on earth tuned these last time?'" I just said it must have been the last owner...
@Onewheelordeal2 жыл бұрын
I'm dying to find a place to do vapor honing on my old bikes near me. I'm in MI like I think y'all are, any suggestions? Shoot I'll drive out to Hagerty and do the work myself
@kemamusey96212 жыл бұрын
💪
@erneststorch98442 жыл бұрын
What kind of fit was there on the throttle shafts to the carburetor bodies? My buddy had a 59 TR3 with this same type of carburetors . The first set of carburetors the carburetor bodies the holes were wore out causing a bad vacuum leak. He had to find another set that were much better.
@autka_me2 жыл бұрын
Am I too paranoid for marking the rocker arms and then putting them in the same place (as well as the rest assembly)? I was under the impression that parts that worked together for quite some time get unique wear pattern and if you mix them later on it accelerates the wear. Or is it not that crucial?
@BristolcentaurusАй бұрын
didnt see you check for spindle wear? did you take the spindle out and mic it up? puting back a rocker shaft with wear ridges? is this another half arsed job like knurling valve guides?
@redbarchetta87823 ай бұрын
I ❤ S U.
@ZeGermanHam2 жыл бұрын
Is vapor honing suitable for cleaning carburetors? As I understand it, vapor honing is just media blasting with water. Couldn't some of the media get where it's not supposed to be and possibly cause a blockage?
@skinnyhornplayer2 жыл бұрын
Love watching this - Gotta ask -was there no slop in the throttle shafts ? Didn't see you check but am assuming you did before disassembly.
@ianatkinson84642 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@roberthocking91382 жыл бұрын
I didn’t notice you putting oil in the carby dampers ?
@emmettrocks22 жыл бұрын
Snowballs 440 next? Please?
@timosterhout68672 жыл бұрын
Replace the rocker shaft,and bushings!! Your not going to save time by reusing them. When you put the shaft in the lathe it showed a bend in the shaft. Save the hart burn get new ones.
@KenSmith-bv4si2 жыл бұрын
Take a picture with your phone before you take it apart next time, even better reference also and SU carb repair manual.
@Shovel19782 жыл бұрын
I do have a cool project, but it's fighting me and I can feel myself getting frustrated. So, I step away and watch you until the willingness returns. Frustration leads to more problems.
@Cartier_specialist2 жыл бұрын
Those carburetors resemble motorcycle carburetors more than automotive carburetors.
@michaelhart58862 жыл бұрын
Love the channel but just fit a new rocker shaft as they're cheap
@robertlambert52992 жыл бұрын
Davin and crew. Would you mind posting the name brand, model number, and the chemical you use of the ultra sonic cleaner? Also same info for the tumbler. Thanks.
@simongroot71472 жыл бұрын
The rocker shaft is too badly worn to get consistent valve operation. Should be changed.
@kodak_jack2 жыл бұрын
The lathe has a live center for a reason. Use it.
@giannirocco74922 жыл бұрын
Thought I was the only one thinking that!
@fraserhill45792 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us the name of the band and the bluegrass music you play during this clip - particularly the piece at 4:10
@nerd1000ify2 жыл бұрын
Be cautious of using abrasive products like scotchbrite on your lathe. They shed abrasive particles that will over time grind down the ways of the lathe, causing it to turn a taper. Generally if you plan to use abrasives on a lathe you should cover the ways with newspaper or aluminium foil, and carefully clean them after you're done to remove any dust that may have snuck past the covers.
@davidwalker68872 жыл бұрын
Amost nothing in that carb rebuild kit suits the carbs you have. The throttle shafts, butterfly's & jet tubes should always be replaced.
@DustinAdams-og3ko2 жыл бұрын
What is he best home tool to use to tune a carb correct
@rogervcp2 жыл бұрын
Sos un groso y además un ejemplo de cómo se hacen bien las cosas.
@jonnygg65942 жыл бұрын
You didn't show us what magnet you got...
@lolman772 жыл бұрын
2:37 - Davin, what are you spraying on those parts? Paint??
@larrybair80742 жыл бұрын
I bet you go thru a lot of white towels!
@ronbeton19992 жыл бұрын
With what spray dis he spray the metal parts after the vapor blasting?