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@tronique5736
@tronique5736 2 жыл бұрын
The TECs did not draw the full amount of power expected because the supply voltage was too low. Looking at the data sheet for TEC1-12710, these modules will need up to 17V, but the supply used was only 12V.
@RedRingOfDead
@RedRingOfDead 2 жыл бұрын
Makes sense indeed. I was sure something was off. This was it. Thanks for confirming
@Coolfwip
@Coolfwip 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, theres more
@allenfunstuff
@allenfunstuff 2 жыл бұрын
Shall we talk about the failure to place the reservoirs above the tubing so that all the air naturally would migrate out or how about the use of metal bolts between the rails holding the peltier modules between pieces of metal shouldn't plastic nuts and bolts have been used to reduce the transfer of thermal energy through them oh well it was fun 😄
@panospapadopoulos
@panospapadopoulos 2 жыл бұрын
@@allenfunstuff HAHAHA I was sure something was tickling my brain when the water could not reach the top and the answer *MORE PUMP* looked dog
@jaysengstacken2118
@jaysengstacken2118 2 жыл бұрын
What, you think these guys are experts or something?
@tayloraldridge3063
@tayloraldridge3063 2 жыл бұрын
Alex's cooling ideas are honestly my favorite videos
@andrelascasas3156
@andrelascasas3156 2 жыл бұрын
When he actually tries and don't just half ass it, they are nice
@achaerna.6662
@achaerna.6662 2 жыл бұрын
His video ideas are the most interesting thing on the channel for sure. I'd be way more into the boring "we bought a mansion" videos if Alex was doing all the HVAC.
@KirkLazurus
@KirkLazurus 2 жыл бұрын
Still not as ambitious or cool as whole room water cooling.
@squareacid
@squareacid 2 жыл бұрын
next time they just dump the whole pc into ln2
@hmello3250
@hmello3250 2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@IAmCoopa
@IAmCoopa Жыл бұрын
As an engineer I absolutely love all of this whacky engineering content, I would 100% love to watch longer format videos that keep dive into some of this stuff more.
@xovouaed
@xovouaed Жыл бұрын
Really hoping they release more on Floatplane for things like this! Would love more details.
@glxytoni
@glxytoni Жыл бұрын
Floatplane probably
@rherydrevins
@rherydrevins Жыл бұрын
"Engineering". Michael Reeves is more of an engineer than Alex is. So is Electroboom, Adam Savage, Simone Giertz, Integza, Joel Creates... heck, even Dan, on this very channel, is a better engineer.
@Lullabbbyyy
@Lullabbbyyy Жыл бұрын
@@rherydrevins well ofc. This is just a whacky project and nothing to serious
@nickel36
@nickel36 Жыл бұрын
@@rherydrevins maybe, but also Alex does have an engineering degree.
@Daniel-hj5jt
@Daniel-hj5jt Жыл бұрын
I spent a couple of years playing with TEC's, successfully building out a universal whole case cooler that dropped the CPU temp by 20c while maintaining a case temp of around 10c. So a few things, mounting pressure on the TEC plate is EXTREMELY important, you need even pressure across both sides or performance takes a serious hit. We ended up threading out own bolts with a very high thread density, counting the turns and confirming with calipers. You also need to have a neoprene gasket (cut a hole for the TEC and sandwich between the heatsinks) we used quarter inch high density neoprene, but your application may need something different. We also used 600w TEC's (24v @ 25a) which required a special switching PSU (30v@30a), and HUGE melcor nickle plated copper heatsinks that were cooled with 120mm 120cfm sillverstone fans. The HS's were 120x120x90mm, and each weighed about 5 pounds, with each tec using TWO. You can simply drop the cold side into a container of water, and use as many as you like. The other important thing, you're much better off using high power TEC's like the 600w we used, and undervolting it. At lower power, TEC plates are much more efficient. Basically you're better off using 8 600w TEC plates, running 75w each than you are using 1 plate running full load. I would have to check my 15 year old forum posts, but i'm pretty sure we found that 30% load was the sweet spot in terms of efficiency, though i'm really not sure if that's a flat metric or simply applied to our 600w plates. Either way, i'd suggest taking another run at this, you should be able to get much better results using much fewer parts and a less janky set up.
@heygek2769
@heygek2769 Жыл бұрын
I think a big part of why this video even happened is because he used stuff that they already had or bought cheap off AliExpress.
@Daniel-hj5jt
@Daniel-hj5jt Жыл бұрын
​@@heygek2769 I'm sure it is, but they've taken a couple runs at TEC coolers for various applications, and in each instance they've done it rather poorly, ended up with bad, or at least insanely inefficient results, and perpetuate the idea that TEC's are useless. I freely admit, this is a personal pet peeve and this was clearly done for the entertainment value, but...if you're going to do something, you really should try to do it as well as you possibly can. One of the simplest things that is consistently overlooked, is using a TEC to cool the back of your CPU socket. There have actually been a few cases in recent years that have employed fans behind the motherboard tray for this purpose, using a TEC in this was is simply more beneficial, and less complicated than trying to directly cool the chip. Like i said before, i spent years playing around with TEC designs, and ended up with several very viable solutions that i simply didn't have the money to see through, and now i just don't have the time. These guys do, and i'd like to see them make a serious attempt.
@Guru_1092
@Guru_1092 Жыл бұрын
The Jank is part of the appeal though.
@samielamraoui7746
@samielamraoui7746 Жыл бұрын
@@heygek2769 sqws
@a-nus
@a-nus Жыл бұрын
some people, yanno, have a life lmao
@zejjnt
@zejjnt Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these things that us regular nerds just dream of like "this idea is dumb, I want to test this" but you guys actually get to do it :D
@13StJimmy
@13StJimmy Жыл бұрын
The Alex and Jake combo is pure gold definitely would love to see more of them together
@tipturkey1283
@tipturkey1283 Жыл бұрын
The kids just running wild in their dad's garage
@Redbikemaster
@Redbikemaster Жыл бұрын
They definitely were great together
@ALonesomeStreet
@ALonesomeStreet Жыл бұрын
It was chaotic and I love it
@MrKozlosPL
@MrKozlosPL Жыл бұрын
Alex, Jake & Dan are perfect trio. Alex "should be fine" frankenstein inventions are lawful evil. Jake's persona is chaotic good. & Dan is the true neutral with pinpoint accuracy reactions. I can't imagine the LTT/LMG without them.
@HAMpeach
@HAMpeach Жыл бұрын
It really seemed unplanned too haha love it!
@Steamrick
@Steamrick 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope that there's a followup video where Alex fixes the worst issues with this cooling apparatus... there's soooo much room for optimization.
@tzxazrael
@tzxazrael 2 жыл бұрын
that WOULD be really cool to see if it could ever be really good at what it's supposed to do... but on the flip side, "optimized and efficient" isn't really the reason we click on these videos, is it? xD
@CorDawgYT
@CorDawgYT Жыл бұрын
Imagine spending that much money on tools and equipment, and this is the results...
@amagal9091
@amagal9091 Жыл бұрын
There is a channel called "Этот Компьютер", in his playlists there is a playlist called "Пельтье", there he assembled his cooling system on peltier modules with a solution to the problems that Alex encountered(these videos are two years old)
@onemananarchy
@onemananarchy Жыл бұрын
I would also love to see them get the full power and tie in a GPU block to the loop.
@ThePiprian
@ThePiprian Жыл бұрын
Der8auer has a video where he built and tested something like this and it worked pretty well iirc.
@Wolfesbrain
@Wolfesbrain 2 жыл бұрын
I love all of these "technically feasible but practically inadvisable" projects. Give Alex's mad science lab a bigger budget!
@certainlystormy
@certainlystormy Жыл бұрын
literally the best shit on yt
@360tomahawk_obese_gorilla87
@360tomahawk_obese_gorilla87 Жыл бұрын
they should give him his own channel to do this shit
@Angel_EU34
@Angel_EU34 Жыл бұрын
"technically feasible but practically inadvisable" sounds like a mantra for engineering school xD
@OddlyIncredible
@OddlyIncredible Жыл бұрын
"Technically feasible but practically inadvisable" basically describes overclocking generally. ;-)
@incywincy2k
@incywincy2k Жыл бұрын
And make him wear a white lab coat
@Nils__pltr
@Nils__pltr Жыл бұрын
I think the whole bubble trapping thing could've been solved if they mounted each row in series and not all of them in parallel but i still love the idea!
@NeaRnotech
@NeaRnotech Жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same thing
@venuccicze2181
@venuccicze2181 Жыл бұрын
or if they mounted the reservoir at the top :)
@hapybratt8640
@hapybratt8640 Жыл бұрын
Then they'd need even higher head pressure and even more D5 pumps.
@Nils__pltr
@Nils__pltr Жыл бұрын
@@hapybratt8640 is that a problem tho?
@amartyamishra6961
@amartyamishra6961 Жыл бұрын
@@Nils__pltr yes they already using 3 :D
@eduardocarrasco8830
@eduardocarrasco8830 Жыл бұрын
Alex, the way you connected the pumps is not giving you double the head pressure, you are basically connecting them in tandem. This mean that one pump discharges just to feed the suction tank to the next. There is not pressure transmission doing that, so basically is just the last pump working, the first is just feeding the second tank, that’s it. If you want to connect the pumps in series to double the head pressure you need to connect directly the discharge side of pump 1 to the inlet side of pump 2. If you want to double the flow, then both pumps must be connected to a discharge pipe at the same time, but the total head is equivalent to one pump.
@Nickgowans
@Nickgowans Жыл бұрын
Alex went from nervous engineering nerd to full on video presenter in a few short years. It's a beautiful thing to see
@shanekhiu9884
@shanekhiu9884 Жыл бұрын
Just like Linus at the start, a worthy successor.
@norkshit
@norkshit Жыл бұрын
@@shanekhiu9884 Alex for LMG 2100
@lucasmelee
@lucasmelee Жыл бұрын
now he's a cooling mad genius and we love it
@LautaroQ2812
@LautaroQ2812 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. I remember his first videos... he was paired with Riley and I believe Anthony also had some videos here and there. They both sucked. Riley was always a natural. I bet he cheated. But now Alex has found his own style and it''s fantastic.
@malifor2210
@malifor2210 Жыл бұрын
I remember his introduction with the laser cutter! But that's wayy early on!
@milktaster85
@milktaster85 Жыл бұрын
Alex doing silly cooling projects are genuinely my favorite videos on the channel, I hope we see more in the future.
@Nepoxification
@Nepoxification Жыл бұрын
I assume we already see as much as possible 😀 These projects take up so much time and are so damn much work to realize
@Spoco
@Spoco Жыл бұрын
Still waiting for a video where they do sub-ambient cooling without electrical worries, by sealing the whole PC in a different atmosphere without water in it. Someone needs to do it!
@bigschnozer576
@bigschnozer576 Жыл бұрын
That’s how I found out LTT
@koalaunknown
@koalaunknown Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a sequel to this that uses the same idea but in a more optimized way.
@oliverwhitaker5760
@oliverwhitaker5760 Жыл бұрын
using a server 12V only server PSU, and maybe using cheap air coolers on the peltier hot side to half the effort on the cooling runs might help!
@adoksym
@adoksym Жыл бұрын
Then you should watch der8auers Video on cooling with multiple peltier elements ;)
@cho4d
@cho4d Жыл бұрын
You need a separate res at the top of the loop for this to work. pump at the bottom, res at the top, then you're not fighting gravity. come on guys this is water loops 101!
@cho4d
@cho4d Жыл бұрын
also the clamps idea was alright, but you can make mini clamps out of 2 sections of dowel and 2 wood screws. then you can make 1 adjustable clamp for each inlet and dial in the restriction perfectly!
@NonSensicalCharacter
@NonSensicalCharacter Жыл бұрын
I feel like in a previous video, it was established that if you want to do this, you should first run the hot water through a radiator to get the temperature down for most of the way and then run it past the TECs to go sub-ambient.
@Princess_kitty14
@Princess_kitty14 2 жыл бұрын
Alex was so preoccupied with whether or not he could, he didn't stop to think if he should
@richardgarrett2792
@richardgarrett2792 Жыл бұрын
That thought has rarely if ever entered his mind.
@tdgchan
@tdgchan Жыл бұрын
Alex was so preoccupied with whether or not he cold, he didn't stop to think if he should*
@geekfacekillah5389
@geekfacekillah5389 2 жыл бұрын
As a future engineer, I love how overly complicated this is. As a future engineer, I hate how grossly inefficient this is.
@Jd-zl7mn
@Jd-zl7mn 2 жыл бұрын
I second this...
@RedRingOfDead
@RedRingOfDead 2 жыл бұрын
As not an engineer. But knowing something about something. I 3th this Also using different hardware for the distribution would've made it more efficient
@ImasterIIchiefI
@ImasterIIchiefI 2 жыл бұрын
as a engineer i could do better xD
@fynkozari9271
@fynkozari9271 2 жыл бұрын
Why do u think technology is going backwards? Higher power usage, less efficiency, high temperature 🌡️??
@MigotRen
@MigotRen 2 жыл бұрын
As an engineer, this a aprove of this. this video kills me
@MattyRRG
@MattyRRG Жыл бұрын
We need more Alex and Jake, such a great duo, both of them are smart and janky at the same time
@LunaticCharade
@LunaticCharade Жыл бұрын
Lol, smart and janky is the best description!
@indigenous.rabbit2877
@indigenous.rabbit2877 Жыл бұрын
I believe you ran the cooling to the peltiers in parallel, that would completely explain why the coolant was not getting there. Water always takes the easiest route so there was no need for it to go through the top ones, it could just go through the bottom ones. Also rethink the diameter or your water tubes, the tubes going to the waterblocks were really thick and the one going to the pumps was only a little thicker. No wonder there was almost no flow in some areas. You would probably be fine with those flimsy 5mm ish tubes going to the individual units on the hot side. Maybe for a second iteration of this split the cooling system up into groups of like 4 peltiers cooled in series with smaller separate radiators. Also have the water in the cold loop flow the other direction from that in the hot loop to make sure the water doesn't get reheated by the higher temperature peltiers (because they are in series the last one gets a lot warmer cooling water and thus will cool less far on the cold side). I think by hooking up the cold side in groups of 4 (or so) with their own pump and combining the output with a splitter to the CPU plus the aforementioned changes you could optimize this setup.
@Dornacgove
@Dornacgove Жыл бұрын
The only thing missing is the "What the f* are you doing and HOW MUCH DID I PAY FOR IT?" Linus cameo.
@Nick-rs5if
@Nick-rs5if Жыл бұрын
Yes! 😂
@kanetw_
@kanetw_ 2 жыл бұрын
1. Use a few distribution blocks (eg Phoenix PTFIX) instead of soldering 80 wires. Or good old Wagos. You'll hate yourself less. 2. I would do a 5s4p connection instead of 20p to save on tubing effort while having some redundancy. E: any manifold connection has potential for unequal flow so you need to watch out for that. Big benefit of series tubing is you have the same flow rate everywhere.
@DrakkarCalethiel
@DrakkarCalethiel 2 жыл бұрын
5s4p with each string on its own pump would make a whole lot more sense.
@ShieTar_
@ShieTar_ 2 жыл бұрын
But that means potentially trying to remove 600W from a small 40mm x 40mm waterblock. I don't think you can get a fast enough flowrate through it to make that happen.
@zeendaniels5809
@zeendaniels5809 2 жыл бұрын
Add some RGB. You forgot about that.
@todorow22
@todorow22 2 жыл бұрын
He could tune the flow rates with flow controls. reducing flow in the lower peltier devices would probably balance the flow up to the peltier devices that are much higher and thus need more head pressure. If you are feeding the same head pressure to each row the top will never get good flow.
@kanetw_
@kanetw_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShieTar_ Don't underestimate the heat conductivity of water. 600W on 40x40 sounds like a lot but is extremely manageable
@madeintexas3d442
@madeintexas3d442 Жыл бұрын
There's nothing that makes me happier than a video where Alex makes some crazy contraption. It is very relatable.
@freschey
@freschey Жыл бұрын
The trio we never knew we wanted, but deserve a series of videos with: Alex, Jake, and Dan!
@je2231
@je2231 Жыл бұрын
again the scariest things an engineer can say is "it should be fine" or "it will be fine"
@KevinDC5
@KevinDC5 Жыл бұрын
You do know you can get 40x120 aluminum water blocks so you can reduce you hose usage by a factor of nearly 4. J/s Hilarious fun build though! 🤘🏼🤘🏼
@devkit0
@devkit0 Жыл бұрын
Jake and Alex in the same room is my new favorite thing. Pure nonchalant chaos.
@Matty.Hill_87
@Matty.Hill_87 2 жыл бұрын
Dan's reaction was incredible 😂😂
@diptarghyaghosh8526
@diptarghyaghosh8526 2 жыл бұрын
AbOmInAtIoN
@Michael_mki233
@Michael_mki233 2 жыл бұрын
Dan has been the best addition to LMG since Anthony.
@ICanHazRecon911
@ICanHazRecon911 Жыл бұрын
@@Michael_mki233 he's slowly started to become my favorite LMG member for a while now lol his reaction was priceless
@antoniosteiger9443
@antoniosteiger9443 2 жыл бұрын
A mad thumbnail for a madlad engineer. Love it
@orangegamer3512
@orangegamer3512 2 жыл бұрын
definitely
@DarkZenith
@DarkZenith 2 жыл бұрын
Alex needs to long beard and long hair it up with a labcoat. Would be awesome.
@covodex516
@covodex516 Жыл бұрын
these kind of videos are the most interesting you guys put out; just let Alex and the other engineers do whatever crap they come up with, its super entertaining
@kraigmeares8286
@kraigmeares8286 Жыл бұрын
Lots of room for improvement on this one. Would love to see a rev 2
@Parzivilian
@Parzivilian 2 жыл бұрын
Time for my daily dose of absolute certified craziness presented by Alex.
@Thebadbeaver9
@Thebadbeaver9 2 жыл бұрын
You need a manifold that distributes to each of the lines with a constant volume flow rate. In other words, the fluid is taking the path of least resistance, like the lower TECs and shorter tubing runs.
@sHoRtBuSseR
@sHoRtBuSseR 2 жыл бұрын
This is the right answer. Restrict the lowers, use separate pumps, or series up several of the TECs
@lasskinn474
@lasskinn474 2 жыл бұрын
just have loops for few tec's each going to a tank and a different loop from the tank to the cpu.
@Nur__
@Nur__ Жыл бұрын
@@lasskinn474 makes more sense
@milamber319
@milamber319 Жыл бұрын
I failed thermofuids 3 times and even I was frustrated he didn't lift the red above the techs
@scarletspidernz
@scarletspidernz Жыл бұрын
I played too much factorio/satisfactory to know this 🤣
@QueenSaffryn
@QueenSaffryn Жыл бұрын
It's that time again, janky water cooling with Alex, I love it, these are my favorite videos LTT makes, and I hope the series never ends :)
@c4sualcycl0ps48
@c4sualcycl0ps48 Жыл бұрын
It’s great that they always happen at the onset of the new generation. Then legit coolers come out, then the next generation changes it up again and the cycle repeats
@JETWTF
@JETWTF Жыл бұрын
For a manifolded assembly like that you want it to be horizontal rather than vertical so gravity affects each one the same. Then you can have radiators attached to the hot side drawing cool air from the cold tubes on the bottom and the cold side blowing chilled air over the hot tubes on top for a small performance boost in the setup.
@vdoxsamp7283
@vdoxsamp7283 Жыл бұрын
0:43 oh-oh, watch me **Double-tap**
@broklond
@broklond Жыл бұрын
You gotta connect those blocks on the peltier-s in parallel (at least in blocks). You could do four groups of TEC-s with each group having their own pump and radiator combo so you have higher crossection for the water to flow through. If you connected everything here in series, I would imagine, the pressure needed to push the coolant through the whole system is too much with just a tubes diameter of cross section for coolant flow.
@TorgieMadison
@TorgieMadison Жыл бұрын
As I understood it, they were connected in two parallel blocks of 10. The frame's left side supported 10 TEC-s, and the right supported the other 10. Front was cold, back was hot. Am I missing something? These aren't connected in series at all.
@LievenSerge
@LievenSerge Жыл бұрын
@@TorgieMadison They all had their own circuit, which makes for a very long pipe in sum. When you group 4, you almost cut that length by /4 -> less pressure is needed.
@VealCalf1
@VealCalf1 Жыл бұрын
I mean, yeah. But if you do that and lay the frame down so that you don't need the pumps to lift the coolant 3 feet it would work a whole lot better.
@LievenSerge
@LievenSerge Жыл бұрын
@@VealCalf1 If you make yourself familiar with these particular physics you will learn that the relation of pressure needed to length of the pipe is not linear. Spreading out the pumps to different positions in the circuit could help with that.
@yenchenje4611
@yenchenje4611 2 жыл бұрын
I've never gotten cracked up by these sentence but when Dan came up to them and said "What the fuck is this abomination?", "What are you cooling?" and "What are you heating with this?" all at the same time I audibly laughed
@MrOnosa
@MrOnosa Жыл бұрын
Dan's great
@CykoruKun
@CykoruKun Жыл бұрын
I never watercooled or overclocked anything in my life and Alex' videos about this stuff are just fascinating, love it!
@rodrigocunha34
@rodrigocunha34 Жыл бұрын
You should connect the blocks in series. So you solve the pressure problem and equalize blocks temps.
@Wrenchmonkey1
@Wrenchmonkey1 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Would've made it really easy to bleed the whole system
@sharpfang
@sharpfang Жыл бұрын
Hot side in series would only make most of them non-functional as they'd be "cooled" with hot water (heated by earlier ones). OTOH the "cold side" in series would freeze the antifreeze, as the cooling effects would keep stacking.
@sharpfang
@sharpfang Жыл бұрын
@@muffinconsumer4106 Would require a lot of smaller radiators, couldn't use these big liquid cooling radiators they did.
@ManhwaMystics
@ManhwaMystics 2 жыл бұрын
Alex must be having the time of his life because we all know weird ideas pop into our heads but everyone get the chance to implement them.
@murdock9876543
@murdock9876543 2 жыл бұрын
I did the same but in smaller dimensions (about 400W). I wasn't happy with the results. So i tried the outdoor mod. Placing my 9x120mm radiator outdoors at about negativ 5 degrees celsius improved the result greatly. The cool side of the peltier element was extremely cooled and the cold side could get insanely cold (not gonna spoiler, try it out its crazy!!!. Its easy to realise If mother nature provides you with the right circumstances. Shouldnt be a problem in Canada i guess. I would love to see you stepping the project up with the "oudoor mod". Sorry for my terrible english and greetings from Austria
@nkl7345
@nkl7345 Жыл бұрын
Austrians and their cooling solutions smh
@JamieMoller
@JamieMoller Жыл бұрын
I SEE IT. He has the engineer eyes now. You know, the sort of sunken, passion deprived gaze that is earned by answering emails and attending team meetings instead of doing ACTUAL work. Congratulations.
@Dukes3677
@Dukes3677 Жыл бұрын
Jake getting sprayed after asking if he can just crack it real quick had me cackling
@SoniasWay
@SoniasWay 2 жыл бұрын
I love how positive Alex’s energy is
@moRaaOTAKU
@moRaaOTAKU Жыл бұрын
He loves cooling of course he's a chill dude
@Syphious64
@Syphious64 Жыл бұрын
I used to have the "Ultra" brand peltier tower air cooler hybrid. It actually worked very well. With how it was set up it kept the CPU at one temperature when under load, didn't cool it too much or too little. Gimmicky, yeah. But it was cool as hell and still did a fairly good job. Not the best, but good. This idea takes that to the max. I like these ideas lol
@ColeRees
@ColeRees 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe you guys are doing ANOTHER peltier cooler video right as I’m designing a stupidly crazy design for a giant observatory telescope chilling system. So thankful!!
@Running_Wakko
@Running_Wakko 2 жыл бұрын
Please don't use Alex as a starting point. He is making so many stupid mistakes. Main stupid thing was that he did not place the header tank on the top of the loop.
@ColeRees
@ColeRees Жыл бұрын
@@Running_Wakko don’t worry, we aren’t using this is a guide! Our system is going to be far more complex as it has to work in all orientations. The water blocks will be changing orientation as the telescope mirror moves around, so we have to account for everything. We’re gonna build a working model before we even try out the real thing.
@elisdee1
@elisdee1 Жыл бұрын
Alex is by far becoming my fave LTT member
@firefox7530
@firefox7530 Жыл бұрын
You have to create strings and parallel streams with your cooling liquid. The way have it now you would need an open reservoir which presents NO pressure at all. Best way to to this would be to have the water coming from top into the reservoir like a small waterfall. With that much parallel water flow you actually hampered the whole performance. Also add some automatic air reliefs at the top to get the air out as fast as possible. We have the same concept in out town water system where I'm responsible of. You need strings and parallel flow correctly done or else you have no flow at all...
@ViliamF.
@ViliamF. 2 жыл бұрын
We are slowly getting to a point, where our CPU coolers will need their own coolers.
@Exilir8
@Exilir8 Жыл бұрын
@Ahmed Jones but If we get a cooler for the CPU cooler's cooler, then we'd also need another cooler for the cooler for the CPU cooler's cooler.
@Jake12220
@Jake12220 Жыл бұрын
Stuff like this is why I'm subscribed. By far my favourite clip from LTT in ages. Just a pity Linus wasn't there to drop it.
@JacksonAcademy1
@JacksonAcademy1 Жыл бұрын
16:06: I like how they black out the password, like anyone wants to break into their warehouse, ignore all the expensive equipment, and take a motherboard covered in vasoline 🙄
@Acssnipa
@Acssnipa Жыл бұрын
Thank you Thank you Thank you LTT, 1 wk ago it was so close to buy the 1/10th of your test parts on Aliexpress, still try to convince myself, then you did it for me, saved he heaps effort, and made my mind to keep standard water cooling. thank you again...
@ulrichkalber9039
@ulrichkalber9039 Жыл бұрын
i think you might get better results if you use a large high reservoir above each loop and let the pumps just pump the liquids up, then let gravity let the liquids flow through the coolers this would probably get equal flow through each cooling element. that way you could also store some cold liquid in the reservoir and run a benchmark from the stored cooling capacity of the reservoir.
@joelfrom08
@joelfrom08 2 жыл бұрын
Alex's introduction to tecs and cables has probably taught me more than the 8 years of physics class I had so far
@justinpierce3367
@justinpierce3367 Жыл бұрын
what?
@thejo6331
@thejo6331 2 жыл бұрын
I'm here for more of Alex's off-the-wall cooling ideas! As in, he comes up with the ideas by "throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks", then makes videos out of what does /not/ stick.
@ral-xk7qb
@ral-xk7qb Жыл бұрын
12:14 "The D5 pump loosener has escaped prison and the police are on hunt to find him!"
@Raikos100
@Raikos100 Жыл бұрын
Alex is the best learning source of how to do water cooling, by pointing out ALL of the "don't do this" examples. A true master of his own craft.
@MD2389
@MD2389 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I love these types of videos, even if the result doesn't exactly pan out! Sometimes you get a wild and crazy result, and we all benefit by learning!
@Zephyruxs
@Zephyruxs 2 жыл бұрын
alex is easily my favorite person to see leading a project
@cjwrench07
@cjwrench07 Жыл бұрын
I love these engineering videos. Please keep them going in any way you can.
@AKOsiMORRIS
@AKOsiMORRIS Жыл бұрын
from how I understand piping in general (I am not an expert) the reason there is so much air trapped is because they don't have any pressure release valve located on the highest point of the loop so the air just gets trapped on whichever place gets the water flow last... it's basically a one-way valve that traps liquid below it while release any air upwards without giving it a chance to get back into the loop (I think the show The Good Doctor made a decent demonstration of this)
@AgentDrake
@AgentDrake 5 ай бұрын
Every time Alex says something to the lengths of "It's fine." / "It's gonna be fine." / "It should be fine." I know it's going to be a good video.
@KuramaKitsune1
@KuramaKitsune1 2 жыл бұрын
Should have had those tec modules in series and parallel behind each other cooling the hot side of the other tecs for a multi-stage
@YOEL_44
@YOEL_44 2 жыл бұрын
Only time I've used a peltier was for a DIY dehumidifier, they're terribly ineficient, just don't use them.
@RTDragonCommando
@RTDragonCommando Жыл бұрын
I think the pumps needed to be split up among the different sets of coolers, so a pump and a "one in five out" manifold per level of that tower. Getting the water/coolant to cycle properly through all the blocks would probably make a huge difference, and if I understand how they work correctly, may actually get the TECs to draw more power. The reason for that being they have temperature limits on the hot side, once it reaches a certain point it just can't push more heat across, and will drop off.
@deidyomega
@deidyomega Жыл бұрын
Those tecs need 17v, they were giving them 12v. So the devices were underpowered, thus under delivering.
@Nate_the_Nobody
@Nate_the_Nobody Жыл бұрын
14:30 Thank you for such a selfless sacrifice to bring us such precise scientific data
@davidpretorius2984
@davidpretorius2984 Жыл бұрын
This whole video feels like 2 kids got left unsupervised with dad's tools over a school holiday. I love it
@luigigaminglp
@luigigaminglp Жыл бұрын
Alex, Jake and AliExpress in one Video. And its exactly as insane as expected!
@kol101101
@kol101101 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely insane and im so glad you guys made it. 9:21 best part
@VRtechman
@VRtechman Жыл бұрын
These guys could never be plumpers! Or anything else than KZbinrs! 😏
@Frightenerd
@Frightenerd Жыл бұрын
9:26 I bet Lulu wants a taste then
@upholsteredhero5216
@upholsteredhero5216 Жыл бұрын
The way you do this is to buy larger water blocks. You can get blocks that are longer so that you can attach 4x or even 8x pet's per block. The correct way to do it is to add a pet inline wired up to an inverted furnace thermostate so that you can temp controle power on and off the pet's. Best way to go sub ambiant is with geo thermal heat sinking though. Your coolant should stay a constant inline temp between 10-15 degrees. Heres is another hint people condensation requires a temp differential based on humidity in the air. So if your pc was in an airtight humidity controlled enviroment like a mineral oil case or a freezer you can eliminate the opertunity for condensation to occur.
@justsomeperson5110
@justsomeperson5110 Жыл бұрын
This looks like a brain from a bad sci-fi movie from decades ago. It's lovely! So when do you design a case that the wonko cooler mounts to and call it "The Brain That Lives!" and make your own mini movie for Floatplane?
@crazzywolfie
@crazzywolfie Жыл бұрын
i think you should try improving this. you should mount the pump/reservoir up high to prevent air lock and pressure issues if you want to keep testing the in parallel like you are. i would recommend each row of coolers in series and then have the rows connected in parallel. it would really force the coolant to circulate through the coolers and likely require less force and make the water much cooler.
@amiryousefi5374
@amiryousefi5374 Жыл бұрын
actually u just write my toughts 😅😅😅
@tobiasjames6949
@tobiasjames6949 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, never understood why most liquid cooling setups in typical computers have the res down lower either, should be the highest point - even higher than the rad - makes it much easier and would automatically deaerate
@nathantron
@nathantron Жыл бұрын
I really was hoping they'd go all out and like machine a whole water block manifold for the in side and outside. I would love to see a rig they make that actually has some bananas cooling and could be used later on for other experiments. Kinda like their air conditioner cooler.
@StatikGaming
@StatikGaming Жыл бұрын
POV: You have the Linus budget and a crazy idea. But it somehow works at the end.
@miha493
@miha493 Жыл бұрын
I like how Alex be like "Linus, we are really need all of these several thousands of dollars CNC's" and his actual projects be like "clamps, duct tape and blessings of Gork and Mork ".
@otakuotaku6774
@otakuotaku6774 2 жыл бұрын
I think with the new AMD cpu and Nvidia gpu all the time the user will be thinking about the Electricity bill
@richardgarrett2792
@richardgarrett2792 2 жыл бұрын
'Borrowing' from a friend.
@michalsnaiberg2734
@michalsnaiberg2734 2 жыл бұрын
then again, you wouldn't need heating at all during winter, so the expenses might cancel out
@pseudocode6506
@pseudocode6506 Жыл бұрын
Exposed wiring, lots of water everywhere. Loving it.
@chrols1
@chrols1 2 жыл бұрын
love alex's strange, wierd and amazing cooling ideas! best one yet!
@Its_Onion
@Its_Onion Жыл бұрын
Guys need to get the thermo coolers on the back of plate/heatpipe and only turn it on at like 60% load for short bursts
@frankvanrijn964
@frankvanrijn964 2 жыл бұрын
Alex and Jake are a funny team doing Frankensteiny stuff. More please!
@ojirmr
@ojirmr 2 жыл бұрын
Alex is the mad scientist of LMG 😂
@Timi7007
@Timi7007 Жыл бұрын
Alex, Jake and Dan doing mad science cooling. Love it!
@matthewfaithfull1893
@matthewfaithfull1893 Жыл бұрын
I built one of these for real and fitted it in a case last year. 380W and 46900 in CB23, 3970X 6900XT, 7 TECs, 3000W of PSU.
@kylepawlaczyk6293
@kylepawlaczyk6293 Жыл бұрын
It is not just a pressure issue, it is a flow issue too! You need to assess the temperature drop of the coolers and then use Q = M.C.DT to work out the total flow required.... then assess the flow of the pumps against the head pressure of the assembly.....
@jessery475
@jessery475 Жыл бұрын
Peak Alex. Best addition to the team. Been watching since the days of just Linus and luke and having Alex onboard feels like a breath of fresh air.
@seanyem
@seanyem Жыл бұрын
Bloody fantastic! Alex has the best and craziest idea's, the things we have all thought of doing but would never do, But he pulls them off. Love it
@costafilh0
@costafilh0 Жыл бұрын
Parallel was a bad Idea! You also need a LOT of quick disconnects for easy maintainance on every project!
@RabterPlaying
@RabterPlaying Жыл бұрын
You need to put the pumps in parallel to get a higher flow rate. You dont need more pressure you need a high flow rate to feed all the tubes. Since there are so many tubes in parallel the pressure is instantly dropping (because of the low flow rate) thus not reaching the top. What also would help is mounting the pumps on the top so the pump is higher than the rack
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 2 жыл бұрын
Jeez, & I thought the RTX 4090 was a power guzzler.
@ShieTar_
@ShieTar_ 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you have a pretty well-equipped workshop with a CNC? Don't you think making yourself a nice channelplate from a copper (or aluminium) block might have ended up being easier than assembling 40 of this tiny waterblocks? And also probably add less flow-resistance to you water-loop? Also, much less problems with the massive height-differences? Also putting the full voltage on the TECs might not be the bestest Idea, once the hot side loop isn't capable at staying near ambient temperatures anymore, the cold side is still going to give you a temperature difference, but now it's only relative to the luke-warm water on the hot side. And 1400W on the (maybe) 100 l/h you get from a D5 means: 1400W / 4.2 J/g/K / (100 kg / 3600 s) => at least 12K heat-up per cycle, not sure at which temperature your radiators will manage to remove 12K per cycle? By the way, if the TEC is specified to a maximum heat transfer of 120W, than this is the heat it can take from the cool side, at 0K temperature difference. While being operated at maximum specified current, and usually at a very low efficiency. Which means 120W is by no means the maximum of heat it can offer at the hot side, that is more likely to end up between 360W and 600W. So with your 3kW of PSU-power, you wouldn't have been remotely on the safe side if you had given them their maximum voltage. But for a small TEC that want's to move 120W this voltage is probably above 12V anyways, right? All I'm really trying to say: There is a way to build an effective, and reasonably efficient, chiller from 20 TECs with 120W peak capacity each. But there is also a way to just yolo it for a funny video ...
@BenQuigley
@BenQuigley 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@macking104
@macking104 2 жыл бұрын
but that is too logical and not humorous…
@volkdude8543
@volkdude8543 Жыл бұрын
I had Two suggestions, to save you time and it is cheap Alex, Thread sealant paste is very inert works better then Teflon tape. I used it a lot to test 3-15lb and 4-28lb pneumatic actuators, pressure transmitters monometers for an old big boiler. My other suggestion is from when I worked for an electronic tool co is "haisstronica Heat Shrink Butt Connectors". These Connectors are Used with a heat gun and leave a marine grade electrical finish. They are fast and fairly cheap, heat guns are faster then soldering. you can also line them up and hit several at once. Good video, pumps go high in industrial loops unless it is hydraulic whole setup might cost $100 but for 50 threads its about 1/2 the time. I'm not sure what Alex gets paid but my guess is it is cost effective
@johnkester7597
@johnkester7597 Жыл бұрын
Guys, put your sub zero test rigs in a nitrogen or argon flooded container. No more worries for condensation. It doesn't even have to be closed so long as there is constant directed flow. The container doesn't have to be anything special. Cardboard, plastic bin, or a fish tank would be more than enough.
@cdgames69
@cdgames69 Жыл бұрын
I love how whoever was in charge of subtitles just called Jake "Assistant"
@XTJ7
@XTJ7 Жыл бұрын
At this point Alex is just living out his wildest cooling dreams. I feel he probably left instructions that, in the event of his death during one of these LTT projects, there will be an engraving "worth it" on his tombstone. In all seriousness though: while we enjoy all the messing around, please stay safe dude!
@edenrose2374
@edenrose2374 Жыл бұрын
@LTT - Alex, there is one-way air bleeding valves. if you attached it to the top of your return distribution block, you could bleed it without issue. Also, that antifreeze should of been thinned, it was killing your pump performance.
@MuzahirAli1
@MuzahirAli1 Жыл бұрын
We don't often see Alex and Jake together in a video. But when we do, it's super exciting.
@KGBgringo
@KGBgringo Жыл бұрын
This was great, we need more Alex and Jake making amazing jank
@mattsnyder4754
@mattsnyder4754 Жыл бұрын
Alex in the writers’ meeting. “Ok guys. I have another idea.” “Is it another crazy cooling idea?” “It’s another crazy cooling idea. But this one…” “Lemme guess. Parts from Ali Express?” “…yes.”
@Freek1989
@Freek1989 Жыл бұрын
Alex, Jake and Dan should have their own series, period
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