Our first REAL look at the 2025 KTM 390 Adventure R | ADV UPDATE

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chroniclesofsolid

chroniclesofsolid

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@TT-ch2pz
@TT-ch2pz Ай бұрын
Agreed, this looks way better than the current 390 and more like a rally bike.
@BassMunn
@BassMunn Ай бұрын
Why is everyone whining about the low exhaust? A KTM 450 Rally has an underslung exhaust pipe, just the end can is high, never heard Toby Price complaining about it? It's an exhaust pipe not a snorkel, it can blow bubbles to it's hearts content through a water crossing. No burnt and melted luggage though is a big plus.
@appymarley
@appymarley Ай бұрын
Lots of people who don't understand motorcycle engines on here
@BassMunn
@BassMunn Ай бұрын
@@BobSacamano-dy3wg considering the seat height will probably be lower than 3ft like the current model and therefore your air intake I think water ingress via your exhaust will be the least of your problems. Is it ideal, no, if you want to go submarine your bike, go buy a 2 stroke.
@inqsoul
@inqsoul Ай бұрын
​@@BobSacamano-dy3wg Yup main enemy is water entering through air filter intake pipe, the bike will survive until knee level water
@harowerks44
@harowerks44 Ай бұрын
@@BassMunn The ground clearance difference between the 2 bikes would be a fair bit I presume, hence the comments about the 390 ADV exhaust being underslung.
@miro_s
@miro_s 28 күн бұрын
The reason for the low exhaust on rally replicas is to make space for the side and rear tanks, not because they’re better. Not that issue here, so I’d have preferred a high exhaust.
@kloppskalli
@kloppskalli Ай бұрын
you don't need another model with 17/19 wheels. To ride on the road 18/21 is good enough
@MyersJ2Original
@MyersJ2Original 3 күн бұрын
Its for shorter people though. The wheels + 6.7" travel vs 9.1" is much better for shorter riders.
@MuzzahA2
@MuzzahA2 Ай бұрын
Nice bend in the front rim at the top @ 3.44 into the video
@KevinDaken
@KevinDaken Ай бұрын
Well spotted 👍
@davehurst3136
@davehurst3136 Ай бұрын
You can see it @2.00 as well, end of the day the rider is probably one of their pros so he's going to be pushing it.
@monsterboomer8051
@monsterboomer8051 Ай бұрын
KTM 390 Adventure R is 5 years late.
@comfyierr
@comfyierr Ай бұрын
Its not late if no one else is making it
@kernellpanic
@kernellpanic Ай бұрын
@@comfyierr cfmoto and kove are making those
@comfyierr
@comfyierr Ай бұрын
​@@kernellpanic I totally forgot about the 450MT. I think Kove is too high on maintenance when they call for 1000 km oil change. Still, people have been calling for these light weight bikes for years. Now seemingly 3 are on the market and 1 is already too late. I find that hilarious
@ianross225
@ianross225 Ай бұрын
My 890 is in surgery with only 2,950 miles and cam issues. My 12,000 mile 690 Enduro R is excellent and no faults
@alexanderzhulin3528
@alexanderzhulin3528 Ай бұрын
I have almost 30k kms on my 701, no issues as well.
@ianross225
@ianross225 Ай бұрын
@@alexanderzhulin3528 I have a 701 in the UK bought with 2,000 miles. Other than the Euro 5 throttle issue it’s been fine except the clutch slips which I suspect is an issue with the previous owner. Annoying but not a catastrophe. I bought it to replace the 890 being much lighter and skinnier.
@justsomedude445
@justsomedude445 Ай бұрын
19000miles on my Husqvarna 901 & no issues , valves still within spec and no visible cam wear , going to pick it up from dealer today........ that said though if Husky took this 390 Adventure platform with the 701 engine & suspension id put my money down for it today right fffff'''ing NOW
@krede99
@krede99 Ай бұрын
I replaced 4 pistons, 1 cylinder and 1 head over 20.000 km on my 690 and when I sold it it was burning oil again so in need of yet another piston
@JeffManaAnytime
@JeffManaAnytime Ай бұрын
indeed a cams issue for some LC8C engine motors before 2023
@easyaussietarget3355
@easyaussietarget3355 Ай бұрын
I rhink this looks like a real positive step for the 390. Had a 22 model and it was a great little bike which surprised a few people where I rode it. This will be better again
@unknownps
@unknownps Ай бұрын
Diddo
@MON_MOSO_MON
@MON_MOSO_MON Ай бұрын
dildo.
@moscty
@moscty Ай бұрын
I attended the KTM Rally in Deadwood SD and they had this 390 and the new 1390. They asked if anyone had any questions but did not answer with anything specific.
@MotoCampAdv
@MotoCampAdv Ай бұрын
Haha typical
@treggs
@treggs Ай бұрын
If Suzuki do release the rumoured 2025 DRZ with fuel injection and a wider ratio gearbox (at least), then this thing will have some very tough competition. Based on the DRZ patent, it looks like all Suzuki have done is add FI, changed the plastics and maybe updated the gearbox. None of that will make the DRZ as heavy as this will be. That said, I will not be selling my DRZ434E with a rally fairing.
@appymarley
@appymarley Ай бұрын
Rumoured yea bet it never happens Suzuki can't be bothered
@ganuvien
@ganuvien Ай бұрын
I'm really hoping we hear about it soon, that would sway me to getting a DRZ400 again for a 2nd bike and run a sumo/enduro wheel swap setup.
@PatchedBandit
@PatchedBandit Ай бұрын
I love the looks as it doesn't wear a lot of side plastics. This looks like a form factor that would do well without any crash protection just like the 690 platform. This might be the first KTM I ever buy. Interesting 2025 coming..
@mcdonaldslover52
@mcdonaldslover52 Ай бұрын
rumours are it comes with a 1 year subscription for a garmin inreach mini for when the camshaft fails in the middle of nowhere
@SomewhereInside
@SomewhereInside Ай бұрын
Hey mate , that was a bit of a cheesy toasting of KTM😊
@unknownps
@unknownps Ай бұрын
Wrong engine
@athulnath2260
@athulnath2260 Ай бұрын
🤣
@vishakr7194
@vishakr7194 Ай бұрын
This not tat engine bro it's Bajaj engine
@Daniel-Mclovin
@Daniel-Mclovin Ай бұрын
😂😂
@gasdive
@gasdive Ай бұрын
I don't know how they make modern bikes so heavy. The first GS was an 800 twin with a shaft drive and steel tank and it was 167 dry.
@Gud-y2s
@Gud-y2s Ай бұрын
@@gasdive if you put the bikes of the 80's and 90's on a scale it's often another story. But, the 600-650 singles of that time were probably comparable to this 390. Back when aluminum was considered exclusive and triple clamps were cast iron, swingsrms were iron etc...
@Gud-y2s
@Gud-y2s Ай бұрын
@@Graeme-r2f i guess they fill the frames with industrial waste they want to get rid of or something.
@davidmallia628
@davidmallia628 Ай бұрын
Yes, baffling!
@burddog0792
@burddog0792 Ай бұрын
You have to take into account that this, CFMoto, RE all are built to a budget that means heavier. Bonus of this is being a KTM is that there will be tons of light AL parts on the aftermarket. Also the 390 ADV is 172 wet/158 dry. This will be in that 175 wet range and I bet an extreme aftermarket diet could get it to 160-165.
@constantinosschinas4503
@constantinosschinas4503 Ай бұрын
@@gasdive Stupid euro5 emissions and A2 licenses are certainly to blame. Adds weight plus a maximum power/weight ratio.
@nomading_in
@nomading_in Ай бұрын
They've typically not changed much about the characteristics of the engine, and that was the biggest issue I had with it off-road (more than ergonomics or suspension). 1st is too short/aggressive, second is also short, 3rd will stall too easily. It's difficult to ride anything technical.
@DragonNova
@DragonNova Ай бұрын
Why is the exhaust on the floor?
@interstellargod6959
@interstellargod6959 Ай бұрын
Adventure ready x)
@Teamteddygaming
@Teamteddygaming Ай бұрын
Exactly
@serwhit2490
@serwhit2490 Ай бұрын
Finally heading in the right direction 🙌
@MotoCampAdv
@MotoCampAdv Ай бұрын
Haha no they aren't
@patrolus1
@patrolus1 Ай бұрын
Amazing that it took so long to listen to the market.... Lightweight & capable adventure bike. That's all, thanks. Everyone wants one, yet we keep getting 200kg pigs... -So even if this is not the philosophers stone, it is a sign that the big brands are starting to listen.......
@grahamambridge2856
@grahamambridge2856 Ай бұрын
Agree. Just want a 45 - 50 bhp in 165kg bike....too much to ask?
@kloppskalli
@kloppskalli Ай бұрын
@@grahamambridge2856 KTM 640 Adventure
@colinbowman8816
@colinbowman8816 Ай бұрын
@@grahamambridge2856 Nope. It'd be easy for them... People making CRF500Ls are in the low 300 lb range, ~140 kg.
@BobSacamano-dy3wg
@BobSacamano-dy3wg Ай бұрын
​@@grahamambridge2856 If only the DR650 weighed one kilogram less, and had one more HP, we could listen to you make another excuse not to buy a motorcycle.
@kwatts90
@kwatts90 Ай бұрын
@@colinbowman8816I e been saying CRF500L forever. Honda has the motor already. Long service intervals. This is the bike we need. That being said also excited about this KTM
@zakkyummms
@zakkyummms Ай бұрын
Never once cared about a display on a motorcycle.
@rs9301
@rs9301 Ай бұрын
You could have added today's video footage of climbing mountain.
@sritter
@sritter Ай бұрын
Really does look the goods. I like the rally tower look and general styling. Low exhaust good luggage to be close to bike but what about water crossings more than 300mm deep ? Hope it is priced similar to MT450
@kloppskalli
@kloppskalli Ай бұрын
the gas will push the water out.
@MfrOffroadRiderNorCal
@MfrOffroadRiderNorCal Ай бұрын
Will the price be reasonable or be inflated to cover the upgrades will it be able to compete withe the ibex 450MT or RE Himalayan 450??
@d0b0b
@d0b0b Ай бұрын
I couldn't pinch my nose and buy the 390 Adventure before. KTM's non-reaction to the 390 stalling issues and the cam wear on other machines stopped me. I don't see KTM changing. I have the 450MT as a small adventure bike and if I was to get a lightweight machine I would hope the updated DRZ will come along soon.
@comfyierr
@comfyierr Ай бұрын
single cylinder with EU5 tends to stall. Even the conservative Honda cant solve that. Just get a tune. Problem solved. Also, they released a statement on covering all past and future of the camshaft replacement costs. A step in the right direction I'd say
@jorgevazquez2170
@jorgevazquez2170 Ай бұрын
To be honest I was expecting less weight like the 690, I may be a bit weight weenie😂. But I guess this is not an enduro proposition and more a dual sport one. Love your channel, keep up with the good job.
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid Ай бұрын
Thanks mate, I never had high hopes of the R or Enduro 390 being as light as the 690. They would have had to do a ground up design $$ They took the easy way and built it off the Duke 390. Let’s hope we’re pleasantly surprised next month 😅
@harowerks44
@harowerks44 Ай бұрын
​@@chroniclesofsolid It is still a single cylinder bike so it really shouldn't weigh much more than a 690.
@HartyBiker
@HartyBiker Ай бұрын
Another comment made a good point, that if they're trying to fit the A2 licence (equivalent of the Australian RE licence) then they can't really make the bike any lighter, or it will exceed power to weight ratios.
@lonecoyote5454
@lonecoyote5454 Ай бұрын
@@harowerks44the extra weight is in the frame, not really the engine.
@harowerks44
@harowerks44 Ай бұрын
@@lonecoyote5454 20-30 kgs extra in a frame?
@SimplicityForGood
@SimplicityForGood Ай бұрын
vibration issues?? Compare it to the Husqvarna 350 or FE500 S, please!
@tolga1cool
@tolga1cool Ай бұрын
Same same as all the other 390 KTM thumpers I'd assume
@SimplicityForGood
@SimplicityForGood Ай бұрын
@@tolga1cool I see… So better go with Husqvarna in 2025!
@sergiosanya
@sergiosanya Ай бұрын
After the 2 390 adv,this one is a dream.,👍I know that a lot of people will work hard to sort out a bunch of defects,but I personally think she can be my next one.
@marcham1790
@marcham1790 Ай бұрын
So late in the game with all the new small adv. What about the enduro R 390? Need weight 300lbs or less max. I stop waiting and bought a DR650
@lr_spb
@lr_spb Ай бұрын
Finally, KTM is releasing a long-awaited bike, and I really hope they price it competitively with the MT450-there’s no reason it should cost more. Plus, it’s worth noting that KTM hasn’t had any cam issues with the 390 engine (at least, not yet ;-) ).
@SanketKambli
@SanketKambli Ай бұрын
Will it have low end torque
@mycoachdave
@mycoachdave Ай бұрын
Looks like an ideal entry-level adv bike. Where do I sign up?
@RealHooksy
@RealHooksy Ай бұрын
It looks pretty good. If it’s 170kgs it will be on the money I recon.
@truthbomb1809
@truthbomb1809 Ай бұрын
They nailed the looks this time!
@aapa3732
@aapa3732 Ай бұрын
Experience with the 2nd Gen Duke 390-2016 that actually is a 373cc is that the engine eats oil. Special 15W-50, no less. The piston is short skirt with only 2 piston rings. With a 12.2:1 compression ratio, it's 95 octane as per manual. Am using Petron Blaze 100. And it can't be used as a daily driver with moderate or heavy city traffic. It overheats very easily! Even with 70% Prestone coolant. KTM-Bajaj truly made it really "Ready to Race" with a TFT-boot up reminder. The newest generation (Gen 3) of this engine was revised to 399cc from info gathered. If it still has that ready-to-race piston with that 12.2:1 compression, requiring 15W-50 and 95 octane, its not a bike that will be no-overheat, low octane gas reliable. That said, it is impossible to have the pre-requisite reliability. The old 2nd Gen is definitely, utterly stupidly unreliable.
@SirOsisofLiver
@SirOsisofLiver Ай бұрын
I had a 2017 Duke 390. No issues with oil consumption, no issues with overheating, though the engine did throw a lot of heat when sitting in traffic. I had it until 2023, and it was perfectly reliable. A buddy who did more commuting on his did the reflash and upgraded the cooling fan, and that solved it.
@krisz6329
@krisz6329 Ай бұрын
Spal cooling fan. Slightly adjust the radiator angle. Head cover check and straighten where the gasket sits. Change head gasket. Duke 390 gen 2 never tends to overheats anymore.
@Zt3v3
@Zt3v3 Ай бұрын
I doubt this would help your case but you don't want to increase your coolant/water ratio for "better" cooling. Pure water is the best for heat transfer. Ideally you want to run the lowest amount of coolant required to protect against freezing in your location. Coolant is for lowering the freeze point, raising the boiling point, corrosion protection and to some extent seal lubrication. The pressure in a cooling system is enough to prevent boiling at normal operating temps, a 1.2 bar cap will move the boiling point of pure water to around 240f.
@someonethere5440
@someonethere5440 Ай бұрын
Looks good but now I own a 450 Himalayan
@supergnorf
@supergnorf Ай бұрын
Nice video! This looks promising!
@robbiexps
@robbiexps Ай бұрын
Thanks for your trustworthy coverage. I ride an adventurized 450exc and it's a bit of a mongrel on the roads. I'm keen to have a ride of the new 390, may be good for my gravel road adv/travel rides and just leave the exc on hand for the extreme single track, dunes, beach and banksi scrub
@dinodenton1223
@dinodenton1223 Ай бұрын
Whats with the Non adjustable periscope Pipe?
@markcollins5026
@markcollins5026 Ай бұрын
Man, nice I hope that's not the graphics it's gonna come in !
@adventureoz3448
@adventureoz3448 Ай бұрын
I bought a new 390 back 2020 is a great small adventure bike so looking fwd to seeing this in the show room very interesting Low exhaust is great for rackless luggage bags rear tray and protection bars and it’s spot on
@FluxExplorer
@FluxExplorer Ай бұрын
Just give me a 690 adventure already
@twowheelpilot
@twowheelpilot Ай бұрын
Shit gear box and fueling. Piss weak clutch as well. Plus over priced....hated mine.
@chiboreache
@chiboreache Ай бұрын
@@twowheelpilot use proppar boots instead of school boy sneakers, and change/flash ECU
@twowheelpilot
@twowheelpilot Ай бұрын
@@chiboreache What? What's footwear got to do with the price of milk. I used Sidicross fire SRS is you really want to know and Forma Predator. Flash what you want, but the gearbox is an issue. It's a Super Moto gearbox, hence first being silly high for a off road and top so low. Makes sense in an SM so you can launch and have the bike rev out fully at the top. Absolutely wrong for off road. Another reason why so many 690/700/701 one models roast clutches along with the SM slipper clutch. Rather have a twin or a KTM 500 EXC for off road. The 690 is something of nothing. (For me)
@constantinosschinas4503
@constantinosschinas4503 Ай бұрын
@@twowheelpilot Bad fueling is due to euro5 emissions and affects all motorcycles. Corrected with a flash/ECU. Weak clutch was mainly on some 20/21models. Gearbox is indeed a bit too high but this is a dual sport, and a bluddy amazing dualsport. Dream engine and chassis. Gear it very short and it will be much better. You cannot really compare it to a 500EXC. Different purpose (do it all bike, and it is just fantastic on that) long service intervals. For me they could make it a bit slower in top speed (ie. max 170-180km/h), so they could make it shorter and more nimble.
@JLswatchthis
@JLswatchthis Ай бұрын
Is this chassis a good size for someone that is 6'2"?
@adr2567
@adr2567 Ай бұрын
I'm eagerly waiting for this bike and the variants, it's possible this will be my first Enduro/dual sport/ADV and second bike in the garage!
@PetrolMachine
@PetrolMachine Ай бұрын
It might be a good 2nd offroad bike. We recently bought CFmoto 450MT which is very very good, but it still has some kind of bulky plastics. This one looks the same offroad oriented, but maybe a bit more prepared for drops :-D I would definietaly consider this as second bike for abusing rides :D
@212driller
@212driller Ай бұрын
Looks great. This is unicorn material for a lot of us. I would be thinking really hard before i sold my T7 to get this though. I love the T7 so much.
@mikeisland7382
@mikeisland7382 Ай бұрын
It would be hard to give up all that T7 torque, bike doesn't ever seem to care what gear you have it in.
@212driller
@212driller Ай бұрын
@@mikeisland7382 I really do like almost everything about it. I'm probably going to get the new safari tanks. Once the center of gravity is a bit lower the T7 is gonna be pretty damned slick. It's honestly not bad as is.
@mikeisland7382
@mikeisland7382 Ай бұрын
@@212driller That will likely be a worthwhile upgrade. The ATV industry made the switch years ago and no one mounts a tank up top anymore. 890 flickability with Yamaha dependability 👍
@glenobrien727
@glenobrien727 Ай бұрын
You can see the rebound damping adjuster on the rear shock.
@mattzobian
@mattzobian Ай бұрын
The low exhaust helps with center of gravity. Disappointed they didn't go with the saddle gas tanks though. It's brilliant on my 790 Adv.
@MHDarlington
@MHDarlington Ай бұрын
It’ll have to do well on weight and price to take on the Himalayan and CF Moto 450 MT. Hopefully it’ll be under 175kgs wet and priced aggressively
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid Ай бұрын
Agreed
@dustinanderson4809
@dustinanderson4809 Ай бұрын
I Don't really see the Himalayan as a serious contender... more of a Niche bike. The real battle is this vs the 450MT.... I think it dominates on performance. At least 20 or 25KG lighter, and with better suspension and bit more punch. Also has cruise control. Price... I dont think they can beat the MT. I'm thinking $7500-$8000 US
@MHDarlington
@MHDarlington Ай бұрын
@@dustinanderson4809 if you're looking at spec sheets you may be right but on sales, the Himalayan is King of the Castle and has to be taken into account
@geethanpalanisami1336
@geethanpalanisami1336 Ай бұрын
What will be the seat height?
@teneretraveller8980
@teneretraveller8980 Ай бұрын
Great to have so many choices in this class now. Ride safe 👍
@slakk5093
@slakk5093 Ай бұрын
switch gear has cruisecontrol controls, a few photos floating around on forums with close up of the switch gear. That is a big win over the Himi450 and the CFMoto. There is also the enduro 390 model coming too. THis will probably be my next bike, would have loved tubeless rims, but will take cruisecontrol over tubeless rims any day
@peakrider4886
@peakrider4886 Ай бұрын
I read that it uses the 890 switchgear. How true that is I don’t know. The source was at that event where the pictures were taken and he posted a video on Facebook.
@nischint88
@nischint88 Ай бұрын
Can you share which forums has more images and info on this bike please
@MrRay645
@MrRay645 20 күн бұрын
newbe question I cant seem to google the answer for. If this is announced this month at the show, when could someone expect to be buying/ridding it ? I know with some things you see them at shows and its almost a year before they are in the store and other things its pretty much instant. also no idea if with something like this you would expect to wait in line/pre order? thanks
@john7912h
@john7912h Ай бұрын
Bought a 1290 sas 2023 , never going to buy KTM ever again, abs pump issue causing panic brake randomly, started to have coolant lost 250ml in 4 days and counting , paint peeling everywhere on the clutch bracket and reservoir , battery drain issue , between 50-80km the steering will wobble uncontrollably , if you let go and will also go right instead of straight. There was also a chemical / electrical smell when starting in the garage KTM dealer said everything was "normal" . F them , i traded it and never looking back , lost thousands but that was better then keeping it. Dangerous bike. Believe everything you see in forums about KTM , it’s not exaggerated. Extremely unreliable!
@thebridman225
@thebridman225 Ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this bike for so long but now I can’t see past the Kove 450 rally… Is it just me or does the Kove have this beat in almost every aspect? But damn, I would love cruise control-
@appymarley
@appymarley Ай бұрын
The kove is nothing like this bike
@ripmax333
@ripmax333 Ай бұрын
I was hoping to have the fuel tank low like the KTM 790 Adventure it would carry its weight very low.
@Davran2742
@Davran2742 Ай бұрын
This is exactly the kind of small adv I've been waiting for.
@MrXrssv1
@MrXrssv1 Ай бұрын
That low exhaust 🤔
@paulvandervyver4223
@paulvandervyver4223 Ай бұрын
My thoughts too
@PatchedBandit
@PatchedBandit Ай бұрын
I bet its not gonna be like that in the final product
@DavidKD2050
@DavidKD2050 Ай бұрын
I see it as a huge bonus. Soft luggage won’t catch fire. More room for a deeper flatter side bag, narrow enough to be out of the wind and keep weight low. Only in an emergency should you need to pop the front over a big log. The bike should be light enough to manhandle over rather than crashing your way across.
@alexmoreno8156
@alexmoreno8156 Ай бұрын
I think KTM missed the mark with the updated 390. They should have adventurized and updated the 690/701 platform instead. Also I think the estimated 170 kilos is boarder line heavy.
@constantinosschinas4503
@constantinosschinas4503 Ай бұрын
If they conform to the stupid A2 license, they can't make it lighter due to max power/weight ratio limit.
@Matthew-zw9su
@Matthew-zw9su Ай бұрын
Way different price points, and those machines are like comparing apples and oranges.
@rodmcisaac3
@rodmcisaac3 Ай бұрын
Any idea of service longevity?
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid Ай бұрын
Probably very similar to the current Duke 390 that has the same engine 👍
@mwl5
@mwl5 Ай бұрын
Ugh... I can get a good end-of-season deal on a DR650 to project-build over the winter or wait until spring for this or a tubeless Himi 450. My Gen 3 KLR is just too heavy off road, and the DR650 I used to have felt lacking on road. I personally welcome 180kg with this setup... it seems like it would bridge the gap for what I am looking for. I don't want to keep waiting though!
@Weltbummler23
@Weltbummler23 Ай бұрын
Toss up between this and the dr, if you are ok with 180kg. Wouldnt mess with ibex or himi, too heavy. Not sure what u didnt like about the DR on the road but a cushy seat and windscreen did wonders for me. U can use outex for tubeless conversion on DR.
@mwitt41
@mwitt41 Ай бұрын
this looks pretty cool but i still think im going for the 450mt
@CoolKillkennyCat
@CoolKillkennyCat Ай бұрын
no I'm more interested in the rumours of a new drz
@getrightoutoftown
@getrightoutoftown Ай бұрын
Looks great. The big question mark in my mind though is what the ground clearance is going to be. The single biggest concern I have riding my 390 off-road is the relatively low ground clearance. Well, that and the skid plate, but the skid plate can be fixed with aftermarket parts. There's no aftermarket solution I'm aware of for the ground clearance.
@lonecoyote5454
@lonecoyote5454 Ай бұрын
Significantly more than the current version.
@OneOldManRiding
@OneOldManRiding Ай бұрын
It's arriving a little too late to market as Royal Enfield and CFMoto have been collecting customers for some time now. As a 390 owner, I feel both if thdie bikes are too heavy to be called "small" or "light." This looks like it probably be heavier than the current 390, but probably well under the competition. - Frank
@TheParaxore
@TheParaxore Ай бұрын
The problem is those bikes are going to be sold out in a lot of areas for a while so this will still be a great alternative. In my area for instance, basically all the new Himalayans are spoken for and the CFMoto Ibex s are likely to be the same until the end of next year.
@7seas865
@7seas865 Ай бұрын
The lightest in the category will be the Aprilia Tuareg 457
@lachy1709
@lachy1709 Ай бұрын
Hey Solid, looks like your 2025 tenere predictions were true with the recent reveals by Yamaha
@kiwiadventurer
@kiwiadventurer Ай бұрын
Weight will be the criticle factor for remote riders, particularly the low slung exhaust.
@cassial777
@cassial777 Ай бұрын
unfortunately if that is the weight, I'll still be sticking with my DR650. 366 pounds wet and with after market battery tank and exhaust as well a few things taken off, she can get as low as 345 pounds.
@appymarley
@appymarley Ай бұрын
@@cassial777 🥱
@algee8228
@algee8228 Ай бұрын
Been holding my breath on this one since you first reported it Solid! Its not gonna replace my EXCF but no light ADV/Enduro has much chance of that. It they can keep the weight and price respectable I might still go for it, as it would add another dimension to my riding that I can't get with the EXCF, and if it is lighter than the CFMoto or RE offerings I think it will sell really well. I'd take the enduro version, it should be a couple pounds lighter at least. My short-lived experience this year with a CRF250Rally showed me that a ~350-lb bike is manageable in a most moderate off-road conditions but good suspension and more power would have made a big difference...and the 390 will satiety those I'm quite sure.
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid Ай бұрын
4 years is a long time to hold your breath 😅 it would make a great companion bike to your EXCF 👍
@ryanroux5429
@ryanroux5429 Ай бұрын
Yeah man It looks great Two questions, fuel capacity…? And surely they’ll have high exhaust option..? Can’t wait to see one in person and take it for a spin. Don’t see why cams would be a problem as you say the current models don’t have any real issues… Suspension is gonna be interesting as I think some guys are gonna wanna push this bike… Bring it and on😎👍 And obviously I am sure we would all like to see a 690 version… a long overdue replacement to the original 640 Adv😎😎👌
@vinayp5944
@vinayp5944 28 күн бұрын
Will there be a 250 version of it? Will be happy to own that. Going by KTM standards it's likely to come atleast in India.
@nevillegreg1
@nevillegreg1 Ай бұрын
I was waiting for this bike but KTM has taken too long [and even today we still don't know the spec] so I (and many others) went for the 450MT and I'm loving it. Picking up the MT on trails is one thing but the MT carries that weight so well while riding it, I don't care much about the weight factor. Of course, it would be better if it was 20kg lighter but not losing any sleep over it. For KTM, unfortunately, 'better late than never' won't apply to me.
@NZCycletherapy
@NZCycletherapy 27 күн бұрын
Hey Solid, you must have seen all the production photos from sites like Bike Wale of 3 models using this platform. Also have you seen the new Aprillia Tuareg 450 adventure/rally they’ve been racing, looks like a production ready bike and would be something else if their 660 is anything to go by.
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid 27 күн бұрын
Yeah mate, my inbox is jammed full of them! I'll be coving it all end of next week. Very exciting 👍
@jkabee
@jkabee Ай бұрын
I ❤ my 690SMCR but I think I’ll have a 390 next year too. 🥰
@1990-t1j
@1990-t1j Ай бұрын
Looks better than my 2018 390 Duke.
@funkpterodactyl5041
@funkpterodactyl5041 Ай бұрын
I’m excited for all the new 390s. I have a Duke 390 for the city and I wish I had more suspension travel to soak up rough pavement. The smc r or this adventure r are bikes I will consider as my next bike.
@mojoriden
@mojoriden Ай бұрын
love the low exhaust, frees up the back to have narrow pannier mount options. great power and weight even if the weight is 180kg. wonder about range.
@raventhehunt8814
@raventhehunt8814 Ай бұрын
with that low exhaust pipe, can anyone tell me if it still ride through water? i used honda xr for in the tropical wild terrain and sometimes i has to ride through water.
@MrTmax74
@MrTmax74 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the spy shots, Solid. weird that that exhaust is so low, but maybe that's not the final product. Regarding weight, I think if they even kept it to 400 lb it would still be wildly popular. 30 plus pounds lighter than its competition and 50 lb lighter than a Tenere. Keeping something light adds cost, so that's something they need to keep in mind. I think this bike will be on the more value side of the spectrum, which will come with some concessions.
@burddog0792
@burddog0792 Ай бұрын
Looks good, but as I feared from the spy shots, it's basically just a dressed up Duke. Wish it had rally fuel tanks, perhaps Rade Garage or Aurora will make something.
@puagh
@puagh Ай бұрын
cant wait to see the enduro version
@ciocanelwar
@ciocanelwar Ай бұрын
Worried about the cost, would love to add it next to my Desert X.
@kernellpanic
@kernellpanic Ай бұрын
low exhaust could mean they are trying to reach 160kgs??? also it would not burn your luggage and it would keep your rear tire warm for turning right...
@NorCalSaint
@NorCalSaint Ай бұрын
Much better looking 390! Will be looking forward to some ride reviews
@alq1967
@alq1967 Ай бұрын
Looks good 👍
@ShaunNel
@ShaunNel Ай бұрын
It looks like the DRZ we have all been waiting for! 😄
@colinbowman8816
@colinbowman8816 Ай бұрын
Ha that's cute KTM. I was hoping it would be lightweight and have good suspension. I'll go get a Kove 450 rally now. They shouldn't have scrapped the planned 490 twin... The 390 motor just doesn't quite have enough power to ride on freeways - uphill, into the wind, no chance of reaching the speed limit.
@appymarley
@appymarley Ай бұрын
You obviously haven't ridden one then..it has more power than a 450 kove
@colinbowman8816
@colinbowman8816 Ай бұрын
@@appymarley 44 hp < 51 hp. *shrug. You're saying the 390 adv has a higher top speed than the Kove, despite having ~14% less power, stock for stock? That'd be a bummer.
@rabfergy7155
@rabfergy7155 Ай бұрын
That exaust should lend the bike to having full equal luggage both sides. For me it will be price and what extras aren't subscription paid.
@PatchedBandit
@PatchedBandit Ай бұрын
Demo exhaust.
@SomeRandoInternetPoster
@SomeRandoInternetPoster Ай бұрын
If the price is right, based off the CF Moto these will be very popular, if they prove reliable. It’ll likely be made by Baja so hopefully more reliable than the 7/890’s. 390 so minimum electronics so KTM won’t bend you over backwards and lock you out after 1,500km and ask for more money to unlock your bike again.
@tieoneon1614
@tieoneon1614 Ай бұрын
KTM Guys : I wud never buy an ADV bike with exhaust exposed underneath. Also KTM Guys : OMG that exhaust is so trick! Genius!
@beddccom
@beddccom Ай бұрын
but travel suspension seems 150 mm IMHO too short.
@ScotlandsGold
@ScotlandsGold Ай бұрын
Ktm dazzle camo on point 💪
@TheCityBoy_
@TheCityBoy_ Ай бұрын
That is a cfmoto 450 with some small visual changes
@MattTofield
@MattTofield Ай бұрын
Really looking forward to this one
@mickrideout
@mickrideout Ай бұрын
one am keeping my eye on for sure.
@GlasbanGorm
@GlasbanGorm Ай бұрын
If they can get a 390hp into a 300 sized bike that 400 will be the sweet spot.
@NoName-c4y7h
@NoName-c4y7h Ай бұрын
Nobody could handle 390hp, but most could handle 390cc.😂
@leeinwis
@leeinwis Ай бұрын
The 390 and Z400 are already that, barely weigh more than a 300.
@ahumblerequest5222
@ahumblerequest5222 Ай бұрын
I’m waiting for the enduro version and the supermoto version
@glennboy66
@glennboy66 Ай бұрын
Not a fan of that front guard shape or the very high screen but overall it looks the goods. If its got 300mm of clearance and suspension travel and is around 160Kg wet it should be a big winner. Not sold on the exhaust for being practical off road, Id rather a slip on with integrated cat that could be changed easy for something like a wings or acro slip on. Im guessing 12-15 grand
@burkaanc
@burkaanc Ай бұрын
considering swapping my t7 for this
@Bicycle_Fungi
@Bicycle_Fungi Ай бұрын
More versatile options in this weight range is good for the genre. I’m looking forward to seeing the rrp.
@djeffhawk7987
@djeffhawk7987 Ай бұрын
Tube wheels the see on a photo that the front wheel is damaged.
@jpsautomotive4207
@jpsautomotive4207 Ай бұрын
close up shots on the switch gear had cruise control :)
@chroniclesofsolid
@chroniclesofsolid Ай бұрын
😎
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever Ай бұрын
Looks good! If it's reliable and has a 4+ gallon fuel tank, it will be a welcome new ADV bike. I like the black and white prototype camouflage, but anything is better than horrid KTM orange. 😀
@Reginvalt
@Reginvalt Ай бұрын
It will be probably the second small adv which doesn't weigh a metric ton (after CRF300 Rally)
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