Our Most (and Least) UNIQUE Commander Decks | EDHRECast 193

[@tybell3438]

I’m glad that the lack powerstone in Osgir decks was brought up in challenge the stats. It seems so obvious but I haven’t seen it an any other Osgir decks

[@styfen]

Thing is, 3 mana rocks are not really what Osgir clicks with. There are so many excellent 0 to 2 mana rock targets that there's no room for something that is marginally better than worn powerstone. 3+ in Osgir decks is the realm of recursion creatures and win cons like basalt manalith or cursed mirror.

[@santiagoberkley920]

I haven’t seen it, on my way to get me one!

[@Therodaas]

@@styfen what is that one recent one that clones itself? 🤔

[@alexmacgregor5265]

My friend summed it up pretty well and mentioned that it's not that good in non singleton formats

[@pauldyson8098]

"Dana, what is your most unique deck?" "Yes."

[@austinjohnson2936]

I love the episodes where you guys talk about your own personal decks. I would love to just have some episodes featuring deck techs that you guys own.

[@dankusgasus813]

34:47 I have always wanted to put bludgeon brawl in my rog/adrenn deck but i have yet to find a copy of it at any store. Doesn't help i always forget to order it along side my other online stuff lol

[@Jerhevon]

I lament that Bludgeon Brawl didn't work with treasure on MTGO. Within Syr Gwyn, I wanted to play Bludgeon Brawl and have Valduk carry all my treasure into battle. Ooo, I wonder if Brawl is secret Tiana recursion tech. For instance, Tiana, Brawl, Wayfarer's Bauble to replay and recrack it every turn. I'm sure there's better options, would need more brainstorming.

[@piralos1329]

​@@Jerhevon With Tiana, you tend to be running at least some 3 mana ramp, since it tends to provide better fixing, and if you're going down the equipment line, you probably have artifact sacrifice outlets anyway. That said... Commander's Sphere and Mind Stone are both p good options, playing a Lotus Petal every turn could get really nutty... And you have the usual egg stuff as well! Honestly seems like a p sweet deck!!!

[@Jerhevon]

@@piralos1329 I do have Tiana in my Syr Gwyn list, leading to a neat little pocket of aura-based utiliy spells in addition to supporting my living weapons. Trippy things like Soul Tithe. Super Trippy things like Tattoo Ward. And then simple Necromancy. Alas, we don't get the last one within Tiana proper. Rarely get these things coming up when Tiana is out, But they've all been doing their individual jobs quite well. So can't complain there.

[@plain6677]

24:36 and now there is Ulvenwald Oddity to give your team haste in mono-green. I love this card!

[@nik700]

Bludgeon Brawl can also be super sweet in Wyleth, nice challenge!

[@hiddenleaf414]

I have a big anti challenge the stats. The “Theft” theme on EDHRec for Obeka, Brute Chronologist. “Until end of turn” effects don’t work with Obeka, which are almost all “theft/act of treason” effects.

[@jimstewart4929]

Unless I'm mistaken, the threaten effects that end at eot put a delayed trigger on the stack which you can respond to with obeka's activation (obligatory 'I am not not judge')

[@caseywellington4761]

@@jimstewart4929 actually they don't. It's just a static effect that lasts until the turn ends. It doesn't matter how or when the turn ends.

[@kingfuzzy2]

Beginning of your endstep or exile at the end of combat on your turn etc... Effects however do work lovely with obeka.

[@xShiroiTears]

Big fan of Matt, he made me love my Kyler deck, just bought a bunch of new cards for it! Including the bogbonder

[@zakkellingson4012]

After watching this, I just had to check a few of my more recent decks I brewed up. I have two decks with under 25 shared cards with that average list! One is my Kenrith deck which lets my opponents make loads of decisions. The other is my Ikra, Ludevic deck which has a toughness matters theme. It would be interesting to see what the numbers would be if you excluded the common lands from the shared amount. Mainly because its hard to get TOO unique in that department, especially if you are in a mono color deck.

[@kingfuzzy2]

Mono coloured and 2 coloured decks I tend to run more nonbasics than basics so I doubt that's necessarily true. I do get a lil' upset if my decks have too much in common with the same commander so all but one (the locust god) of my decks have ended up unusually unique

[@manle011]

Noosegraff Mob is an all star in my Mikaeus deck. One of my favorite cards ever.

[@kingfuzzy2]

It's disgustingly strong in zombie and reanamator decks it really should be run more.

[@doors54]

49:17 I think the issue is that Mimeoplasm is more or less the only Ooze Tribal option. Yes, there are other Legendary oozes, and now we even have Aeve, but they all leave out at least one of the three sultai colors, and sultai is just the best color combo for oozes, easily, so people just attach to that and make it work.

[@TheUltimateRey]

Started to listening to Dana on CMDR central podcasts too, good stuff

[@danaroach29]

Lol, you're not wrong.

[@jettblade]

My most unique deck? Colorless Tribal Thopter. Most Hope of Ghirapur decks are tron or some sort of artifact control, at least in my experience. I always love the look people give when they hear it. I'm very proud of it.

[@facehill72]

Love the content!!! Keep up the amazing work!

[@alexcurtis6180]

I love building unique decks. Two of my favorite decks ever are my Samut, Voice of Dissent Warrior tribal deck with an Exert subtheme, and my Neheb the Eternal stompy deck. I'd rather put dragons on the field than Fireball, permanents make for better sustained damage that Neheb can make use of multiple turns in a row

[@kingfuzzy2]

Me too thanks casual magic is about fun not winning. Something I try to say Evey time I pull out my low powered decks like hikari twilight guardian mono white chaos or gishash plant tribal ( :

[@jacquesdespadas]

Good idea with Neheb. I stuffed every decent Bloodrush card from Gatecrash into my Samut deck, but I can definitely see the Exert synergy. Very nice!

[@gibbysg8143]

I have a Reki deck and absolutely love it. It is pretty powerful so I don’t bust it out all the time but when I do it is a blast

[@benrichardson5662]

Glad to see Dana running Long Term Plans. Nobody i play with has seen it and it's surprising because it's really good considering Blue is great at drawing those cards to get what you tutored.

[@crazydeadperson]

I put powerstone shard in my osgir deck the day I got the precon I have made 9 shards at the most so far between using karn to get it back from exile and sculpting steel

[@Blacklodge_Willy]

Enchantment based Atraxa, Ghired Naya reanimator, Yidris mill and Kalemex with secret commander Bruficlad tokens.

[@jasondrake7324]

Good day, I have a question for you all. At 34:30, Dana says that Adrenn's ability can be used in the command zone, How is this possible? I thought that commander's ability can only trigger in the command zone if explicitly stated. Can you please elaborate, thank you.

[@EDHRECast]

No prob! This may have been hastily worded in the episode, we're happy to clarify :) Dana was referring to having a free-equip effect available on a card in the command zone, not that the ability is usable from the command zone. He just meant that Ardenn would be easily accessible during the game, and how well Bludgeon Brawl synergizes with a free-equip effect that you can cast in the command zone whenever you need it :D

[@jasondrake7324]

@@EDHRECast Thank you so much for the clarity. Please keep making the amazing content...love you guys

[@andrewpeli9019]

I have bludgeoning brawl in my Lubu, Master-At-Arms deck. I'm running all the mountain mana doubling artifacts and 2 drop mana rocks in the deck. Bludeoning Brawl does a lot of work. I've had players get salty over equipping gauntlet of power or gauntlet of might onto Lubu, and 1 shotting them. One of those techs that makes a really underestimated commander fierce.

[@prob094]

I tried this exercise with my Moritte, of the Frost deck, and was pleasantly surprised to find I have only 23 cards in common with the average deck list. It was a fun test I will try with my other decks. Go me I guess? 🤷‍♂️ Also, Moxfield is the best...

[@kingfuzzy2]

I prefer archidekt because moxfield and aetherhub have screwed me over a few times. And yeah I build very strange commander decks so I very rarely have cards in common besides basics and occasionally a Mana rock.

[@dtopa7524]

@prod094 How do you find out the cards you have in common on Moxfield?

[@kingfuzzy2]

@@dtopa7524 sign in then go to decklist then click compare then paste link

[@ncuco]

The more i see this the more i think Matt is my kin. I have slippery bog in my golgari counters (reyhan+ikra) since it came out :D sooo good. Also, a creature with 20 counters, then just mutate a gemrazer on it :)

[@maxwellnichols3873]

My most unique deck is my Trynn/Silvar Humans deck, clocking in at 30 cards in common. The reason is a combination of Joey's Syr Konrad (a deck I really love that I've spent a lot of time and resources to tune) and Dana's self-enforced deckbuilding restrictions (I don't run any mana rocks and, other than Silvar himself and a couple Overload and MDF cards, my curve ends at 4). Really enjoyed the episode! :)

[@Durtaz]

Ghired’s belligerence was a card that I thought of immediately when I saw the blood avatar! When I made my Extus deck it was an immediate include and it did very well! With the amount of treasure tokens, and mana from ashnod’s and phyrexian altar, ghired’s belligerence can really perform.

[@CasualKing21]

Since Hallar, the Firefletcher and Verzaol, the Split Current can't be partnered, I've been using Riku of Two Reflections for my +1/+1 counter and kicker deck. It's been pretty fun and with Riku's ability it copies the kicked version. So for example if I kick Goblin Ruinblaster, I get a kicked copy and can blow up 2 lands. One per Ruinblaster

[@gedtheflayer]

Love the Bludgeon Brawl shoutout, because my most unique deck is a Syr Gwyn Bludgeon Brawl deck. Only 20 lands because I'm running 50 or so of the most jank ramp and card draw artifacts that don't have homes in any other deck. The sole purpose is to tutor up Bludgeon Brawl and turn my commander or another knight into a "tower of power" 12 or so cards tall.

[@kingfuzzy2]

Morbid curiousity is so good and so underplayed I run it in all of my barren glory and divine intervention style of decks and have been 14 card comboed out by a Mishra deck running it as a part of the combo.

[@scottcampbell9515]

Matt’s word play is so great if it was a card it would be Unparalleled Lines.

[@brendans1983]

Negan, The Cold Blooded is a deck I wish more people would try. Rakdos sacrifice, white blink, treasure tokens galore, white mass sacrifice, black mass-reanimate, artifact and creature aristocrats. And then there's the that awesome mind game of picking the creatures when he etb's. It reads weird, but playing it out is a mentally unique experience in this game. It's so fun when they kill their best creature because they assumed u were gonna pick it too 🤣

[@musashibriem1352]

So I looked at some of my decks to compare them to the average. I really thought my Jugan, the Rising Star would be more unique that just 55 unique cards, but then I realized there are a total of 4 Jugan decks listed on EDHREC so my deck is 25% of the sample size 😂

[@kingfuzzy2]

Impressive

[@jacquesdespadas]

4 decks is *pretty* unique! I think you're into the "margin of error" territory for unique cards. 🙌

[@GeekandGlory]

I probably thing my most mainstream deck is Edgar Markov because he wants to do one thing in particular. My most unique is probably my Kennerith the Returned King for my Naya Human/Werewolf Tribal simply because I wanted a good commander to fit that color and theme. I am also particularly fond of my Grolnok the Omnivore which is a self-mill mimic tribal that is about milling, copying and stealing creatures. It is also unique in the way that it is not something you expect from that commander and the deck isn't built the standard way most edh decks are built since it has some funky restrictions and stuff it does.

[@aaronupward]

Extus is probably my favorite deck I've brewed in the last 5 years so I live any time it gets brought up!

[@newworldsound]

Jodahs Avenger…now that is a spicy card 😂

[@Neuverfleischer]

The moment Matt proclaimed he beat Dana, his face fell to the floor. You have my deepest respect, Mr. Morgan!

[@ahoyturtle]

Kyler can make great use of two Human Spellshapers with Devout Witness and Stampede Driver. They're both cheap and give very useful effects.

[@kirkheisterkamp6988]

Yesss! Make Ghired's Belligerence commonplace in Extus decks

[@AristocrateBienEleve]

I think my most unique deck is truly my Patron of the Moon! Well, it wins with combos, like any mono blue, but it’s such a pleasure to win with sunscorched desert, guildless commons, amulet of vigor, or cloudstone curio!

[@monomanamaniac]

Bludgeon brawl is also good in syr gwyn

[@angeloragozzino2887]

Joey i would really really like to build a mimeoplasm deck but i am having a lot of trouble, i hope you will one day make a video to show your list 🙏! Even the average deck on edhrec is ooze tribal and i'd like to build a full graveyard one...

[@L4TMTG]

It’s actually kinda perfect that dana’s camera looks black and white lol

[@jacquesdespadas]

This is such a cool topic! I brew all the time, so this makes for an interesting metric with which to compare to the hivemind (not the card). My favorite deck to date is a Marath, Will of the Wild enchantress deck. It looks like the EDHREC database found 70 total Naya enchantress decks, with only 15 of them headed up by the big guy himself. Compared to those 15, my deck comes in at 43/100 vs the average deck. There's a uniqueness rating if I ever saw one. Might be why everyone doubletakes when I tell them what the deck is. :D The deck is pretty powerful as it is--about as high as I am comfortable to call "casual"--but the average deck list shows me some ways I could crank that up if I wanted. That's pretty cool. OTOH, the average list is also really light on lands, and is missing some important tech: gy hate (RiP is symmetrical, so too dangerous), REB/Pyroblast (to fend off Cyc Rift and Villainous Wealth), and token producers (other than Marath himself) to make use of the token synergies. So the average deck list has to be considered no more than a starting point, which is fine. TLDR: Cool topic; I will be checking EDHREC for Commander x Theme as I brew going forward.

[@CrabBaskets]

I was able to guess the least unique commanders. I was rather surprised by your most unique commanders.

[@TheLowki999]

I'm not sure how unique it is... but im pretty sure my Sliver Hivelord deck is probably as far from the average deck as possible considering it's the only sliver in the deck lol. I run Sliver Hivelord as a 5 color mutate deck as an indestructible mutate target!

[@plain6677]

Oh that’s a good idea! I want to build this deck now

[@NazoPureChaos]

And yet, somehow, still on flavor

[@TheCoyote808]

Dana Roach giving away my Osgir secret with his challenge the stats!

[@sosukelele]

Man, these openings are something else

[@christopherm.7310]

Love moxfield !

[@kyuuketsukikun420]

Dana bringing the heat with those preshow jokes

[@Therodaas]

I'd love to see Joey's and Matt's Wilhelt and Kyler deck lists

[@EDHRECast]

Links are in the description! :)

[@Therodaas]

@@EDHRECast is Dana's Tivash deck name a reference to a Samuel L. Jackson movie?

[@ne0ns0wl46]

Wow only 32-33 cards in in common? That's really interessting. My most unique Deck is my Modular Grenzo Deck. It has 39 cards in common with the average. - 1 is the Commander - 16 of them are Basic lands - 22 Cards are essential for Grenzos Ability (Scry and putting cards under your library)

[@TrinhkThomas]

High Powered Bump-Uglies. . . the only archetype to live and die by. 😎

[@alexleblanc6364]

Let's see those decklists!!!

[@EDHRECast]

Links are in the description! :)

[@ohb71303]

Love species specialist. Put it any my Drana Liberator of Malikir deck.

[@serafimb2319]

What microphones are you guys using?

[@dapperghastmeowregard]

Oh man, the bit about playing decks reminds me of my friend playing my Kroxa deck and always beating my ass with it because he basically just ignores all the dumb combo shit I put in there and just runs it like a RB aggro deck.

[@Mcbananers]

The intro jokes are the worst, I love it.

[@10JudgeP]

I play Ghired's belligerence in extus and, yeah it's good

[@Wojtek36762]

Okay, but how many of Dana’s unique cards are the extra utility lands he’s playing?

[@zackkelley2940]

No Mirari's Wake and Regal Behemoth do NOT double your mana, it ADDS 1. For anything that taps for more than 1 this matters. With Mirari's Wake Sol Ring taps for 2 Colorless +1 Colorless for 3 total. With Mana Reflection Sol Ring taps for 2 colorless x 2 colorless for 4 total. Wiould recommend running Mana Reflection and/or Nyxbloom Ancient instead. Those DO multiply how much mana is produced AND they affect all PERMANENTS, not just lands.

[@justinayran]

How can we measure our own deck's uniqueness? Sorry, I might have missed it. Also, Masterful Replication with Ugin's Nexus is bonkers if you have a lot of artifacts.

[@vanessaeve925]

My most mainstream deck is probably Verazol. There's just a limited amount of good blue and green kicker spells for that deck to be completely unique My most unique decks are a tie between Mathas politics and my Stop Hitting Yourself deck helmed by Saskia. I don't play those commanders the way most players do.

[@randomcivilian5066]

Looking at the uniqueness of individual decks could become a new segment. Imagine looking at the uniqueness of other creators’ deck lists and comparing it to the amount of views that those videos got. I’m sure that this could be done in a respectful manner without taking up too much time from the rest of the episode. Either way keep it up

[@serafimb2319]

Imagine you are the only person that has XYZ as their commander worldwide. Would it be the most unique deck, because it's the only one? Or would it the most mainstream, because it -in fact- matches the average deck of that commander to a 100%? I'm confused.

[@HaydenLucke]

I'm here to remind everyone that Dana has the superior hair. I love you all the same, though. 💛

[@ncuco]

Isn't the number a bit misleading? Shouldn't you give us the average deck comparison number WITHOUT the lands? I wouldn't really qualify running a different number of basics or dual lands as actually differing from an average deck...

[@JamesBond-wk2mr]

Some of the avg decks, where the commander has multiple things going on makes the avg deck a mess I did this with my atraxa deck and I'm 67 cards unique, but the avg deck looks like it's split between a few themes

[@EDHRECast]

Highly recommend using Advanced Filters to help personalize the recommendations to your preferred style!

[@heathbasner9276]

My most unique deck is one actually that I haven't built yet it's one that I have written down it's a mono green artifact deck

[@chasejr753]

Ooh I was working on one as well! I adore Green so much, and I already have a Mono Green Storm deck, so it seemed like the next 'unexpected' combination. I just don't know whether I want to use Oviya Pashiri as my commander, or use Ich-Tekik and some other Mono Green Partner.

[@michaelahite]

yes Reki is nasty. i love the saltiness that it can bring

[@kylejones5518]

I don't use any deck builder sites but I use all of the things he said aren't in the data

[@captcharisma02]

EDH rec is a great tool but it really lacks when trying to find areas of cards. I remember needed to find mana ramp for a Mardu when i was new in the game and it was impossible to get the recommendations i needed.

[@RodrigoCML7]

Dana is so old school he’s turning sepia 🤔

[@kartzzy6101]

I always explain exquisite blood / sanguine bond to people as "baby's first combo". I hate it, it's so freakin boring. It's single handedly why i tend to run possibly too much enchantment/ artifact removal in my decks. It's been about 9 years since the combo came out and it has warped my deck builds because i refuse to lose to something that lame and unfun.

[@UnreasonableOpinions]

The wild part is when you deliberately try and produce a stupid deck as a challenge to yourself, and find out that it's not actually very rare. My pet deck is a Korlash Grandeur deck, specifically because Grandeur is a terrible choice in singleton - but based on the common cards online there are at least a hundred other maniacs trying to do the same extremely silly thing.

[@dtopa7524]

How do you find out the cards you have in common on Moxfield? I couldn't find it. Too bad you didn't include some instruction to that in this podcast instead of assuming we all knew how to do it. Good podcast otherwise.

[@Grimlong]

The intro music is a ripoff of the Actraiser overworld theme. I can't unhear it.

[@danielgoldberg2129]

I really thought about a big thumbs down with all the forced cornball jokes in the intro…. Quite painful to listen to.