Our New 1.5L Engine Blew!!! | 2022 Civic Si Tear Down | Ososik Media

We took our 2022 Civic Si to the race track to battle against the latest 2023 Civic Type R (FL5). Before ‪@DaiYoshihara‬ could even put a lap down, our 2022 Civic Si 1.5L engine blew up!We have been pushing this platform just as we did with the 10th Gen Civic Si but it seems the new 11th gen can't handle the similar abuse. We are back at the Ososik e-Shop to tear down the engine and use our ‪@HondataInc‬ FlashPro to analyze the datalog that captured the catastrophe.
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Timestamps:
Intro: 0:00 - 0:33
Engine Removal: 0:34 - 3:40
Engine Teardown: 3:41 - 30:16
Datalog Review: 30:17 - 40:09
Outro: 40:10 - 41:02
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[@seth_ap148]

As they say extra bolts means you assembled it more efficiently than the factory 💪

[@Blackdawn80]

Honda should be ashamed of itself to sell the SI with an L series instead of a detuned K like they did in the past. Not everyone wants to pay $80k for a new CTR...

[@wanderbread4217]

honestly the OEM blocks are just super weak. 2.0L turbo engines are gonna also be more reliable longterm than 1.5L turbo

[@walahmelons5504]

@@wanderbread4217 the 1.5L is a let down in both rod strength and hp potential even when built compared to the K-Series.

[@ryanb8736]

Totally agree.

[@SIIKAP1]

@@walahmelons5504 K series is legendary. L series is….well, as the letter suggests, an L 👎 It’s good for fuel efficiency at least.

[@wanderbread4217]

@@SIIKAP1 with a tune and an intake the L15b5 will beat the k series but as for going for power i would stick with the k series in the long run.

[@garry2280]

All in the name of science!! Thank you for pushing the limits!!

[@dougritter429]

I'm sick of all the "drop in a k20" replies. Buy a new Si and buy a K20 is stupid. You want to go bankrupt? Just buy a faster car.

[@benitoloco892]

Agreed to a certain extent. You buy an 11th gen Civic you go Type R or you move on to another brand. At least the new Type R is made in Japan where the Japanese pay attention to detail. The L15CA in the new Si is not made in Ohio like the L15B7/ L15BA was for the 10th gen.

[@neuphoria]

Happy thanksgiving guys! Great video. Piston straight flew out damn, with teo broken rods. 265 kPa was it you said for street boost limit? And lesson learned is to turn off the traction control during aggressive drive?

[@jaredlong15]

I have a 23 si, I’m running Hondata. I appreciate this video, there’s so many mixed messages online but 32 psi is nuts. I’m utilizing boost by gear, 22 psi 3/4 then back down to 20 for 5/6. This is my DD, but the stock tune from factory is really weak.

[@SourceHitIt]

Update?

[@vbucksmaster1019]

@@SourceHitItlol his shit blew

[@jaybautista6673]

Update?

[@MegaHahaU]

About time foo if it would of performed above expectations u would of had vid next day I bet

[@brisevans8976]

Looks like I’m wrong about the L series huh 😂😂, blaming the tuner and not the power capacity of a small 1.5L with a turbo. People need to realize that just because it has a turbo doesn’t mean it’s performance. Love the transparency guys. Best of luck

[@sam00129]

How do you think this scenario would’ve played out if TCS/VSA was fully disabled and no timing was pulled then advanced?

[@CarlosGarcia-xu2cy]

Saw the whole vid 💯

[@stevehernandez8936]

Yo thank u for the rnd for theses cars

[@jamesmedina2062]

My stock L15 10th gen sees 16.5 PSI boost max. Pushing 32 PSI is asking for trouble and then EUREKA GOLD! We got it!! Why not look for boost flow instead of PSI?

[@SingleSpeed427]

Subbed. Interested in turbo L15 road course stuff. I'm helping @goldenagehonda swap an L15B in an Integra right now actually. Engine is in, doing fuel lines now. I might follow suit and replace the F20 in my EK as well. The "low torque" tuning that you mentioned sounds like a win for us maybe.... hmm.

[@alxgr888]

Damm love my 10th gen coupe even more !

[@theanimeotaku2794]

I don't think Honda's 1.5 inline 4 was ment to be pushed hard on the track I think it was meant for economy

[@davidgriggs3967]

Could you pull timing when it's in it maximum torque range and then increase it as rpm increases and torque drops off. Leave a bit of a buffer and stop the torque from destroying your rod's.

[@saltycanadian6190]

That dude breaking down the car has 2500$ in impact guns. Hint to younger techs, you can get away using the $300 Milwaukee tools.

[@orcahang21]

Thanks for info, honestly and 👉 ACCURACY ✌ ! !

[@truthseeker9026]

Thank y’all for sending it. I bought my 11th gen Si not long. It’s hard to see it be weak but it’s good to know it will if you push it. We just need to figure out how far you’d need to build it to make it powerful as well as reliable. You can make power but is it all day long…? We need to get there. Transmission work not long after 300? Clutch sure. Some synchros maybe? I’d like to make 300hp. I don’t think this block can do 400hp but that’s just me. By the time you get there, it’s nearly all different.

[@simplegamer4970]

Hey bro I’m about to purchase a 24 civic si, any updates on yours and how it’s holding up and maybe mods that you’ve done to it ?

[@truthseeker9026]

Unfortunately a old lady hit me before I could do much else/ test that motor. When I get the replacement Si. It gets a upgraded clutch, intercooler, full exhaust, head studs, and a tune. In my research, that’s all these motors really need to make a baby type r. About 300 horse. Swap for e85, probably 320-350. Bam, baby type r. The crashed one had just an intake and exhaust. Nothing special, just loud pipes with plenty of stuuus from that turbo. I did feel the clutch slip a few times but I was purposely being an ass with it in first. It won’t do knarly burnouts but I miss her for sure. I hope it’s fun for you. I do recommend a obd2 digital gauge with coolant temps and iat’s. Once any of those values go out wack, the motors goes wack too. I don’t recommend a tune on stock clutch, without upgraded headstuds, and without some extra money. It is a gamble pushing the lil baby fist past 300hp in my opinion. I don’t remember the numbers they were pushing but I remember it was tuned.

[@stevenpoynter4950]

Bros! So ive been racking my brains for months to try and figure out where this wrong and I figured it out! Ready?? You tried to cram 32lbs of boost down the throat of a high compression under square 1.5 liter engine meant to be a gas sipper sports econo car. BRILLIANT RIGHT

[@thefoatmedia]

Pushed it to the limit.

[@aaronarneson]

I am so glad you guys push these cars to the limits. I own the exact same 11th gen as the one you guys blew and was going to push mine as much as I could but now I am going to just stick with the basics and just make it a show car now....😭

[@HDHUSKYISCOOL]

same here

[@donnywilderness]

@Adam A. thats what i figured

[@wanderbread4217]

yea if youre going for power i would just find a used Type R or build a boosted B or K series honestly B series is better bc its far cheaper to build than the K is now.

[@Hondaddy]

@Adam A. Way to many naive people here forgetting about this... It's honestly kinda sad people can't even research or take 3 minutes to see what he did to the car before talking

[@Jester-yw7dg]

@Adam A. they used a stock turbo and the 10th gen motor lasted much longer and it had a big turbo with more abuse and power, the car can barley take 300 its def a weak motor. they def took a step back. unless your changing every internal function by spending 8k on parts and labor then the car is not to be pushed.

[@CesarGarcia-uz9oq]

I have a red one 11 gen now I'm just going to add an intake and nothing more thanks for saving me alot money and a head ache

[@thefoatmedia]

This is why we wanted to show the truth!

[@ryanb8736]

Well you guys tried, but this little 1.5 is a no go. Looks like Honda cut back costs on quality engine parts on this gen.

[@canadiandro8063]

I got a 2020 SI fbo... phaerable tune for 50,000km now... zeroooo issues.. pulls amazing.. great daily everyday.. its the tuner/owner/driver... treat it right and youll be fine

[@Wali.Wal13]

Lol 🤣 😆 😂, you guys are crazy... @Dbutler " 31 degrees at peak torque", that tune was spicy lol 😆 😂

[@thefoatmedia]

Lol that part was a joke but we were definitely pushing it.

[@Wali.Wal13]

@@thefoatmedia lol, I know... I watched the log breakdown 🙏🏾 you guys are too funny 😁 😂

[@nah3193]

If an engine blows and you don't look at it, is it really blown?

[@michaelcicerella6244]

The damage could’ve been done when they tested with the PRL drop-in and then it was just a time bomb from there

[@marrowdreign]

This is true. A stress fracture could've occurred during any previous testing or maybe something as simple as a bad heat cycle due to weather or driving conditions. There also could've been a pre existing micro fracture or weak spot present in the materials from the factory. It's impossible to really know, for sure. Isolated incidents are not necessarily an indication of a wide spread problem.

[@JakeHolder]

This was the video I needed to see to just keep my 2020 Accord 2.0T 10 speed 🤣

[@wyattb8217]

Put a LSD in there and you’ll have a superior car to the Si.

[@apache4541]

wow that's crazy, Honda's weak piston and Rod failed , You need stronger Rod ,piston and get better fluidampr harmonic damper is adding an upgraded great way to keep your engine from having serious issues as horsepower increases. Good luck !

[@B.K.7]

Is your 11th gen SI build dead? Figured you would have a replacement motor by now...

[@oscarvillamor7767]

What spoon valve cover is that fk7 or is it a fl1

[@ARA1200]

They need to bring the K series motor back from the 8th gen. That thing was bulletproof.

[@snowfreak207]

Buddy of mine just had same thing happen he ordered map built block

[@nightr9720]

U would like to see if u would help with a tune I got going on... trying to set it up 1.5T I have the new integra please let me know if you can help thanks ..

[@vicv2106]

Detuned and stock turbo and it blew. The video states it was too much boost that caused the blow??? So does that mean there was a tune installed then??

[@frankcruzrosado133]

Can you guys explain what are the stage 2 and stage 3 on these cars? I am new to this so I don't understand what does some terms mean. Also, what are the recommendations to avoid this? Better pistons and rods? What would be the other mods that the car would need once you change pistons and rods? transmission parts?

[@JermJermFlores]

I 100% ur get where ur coming from but really expand ur horizons on other KZbinrs also to really take as much knowledge as u can and form your own and learn and learn from mistakes and asking even more questions

[@mr.r59]

So the 1.5 good for 300hp ?

[@IntegraDIY]

I’m super surprised a stock 30 year old turbocharged d series, can handle more power and abuse than a brand new factory turbo charged Honda. I guess that’s why they called this the L series, because the people racing will (L)ose Power on track, then take an L😫

[@imranscarvideos]

Because Honda doesn’t make their own motors anymore

[@XeroFailGames]

Old school motors were THICC lol thicker walls and such

[@ElViperr408]

Atm I have a downpipe. Next I want to add is an exhaust or an air intake. Which one would you recommend and some are on sale due to Black Friday

[@thinkforyourself5672]

Exhaust if you're looking for performance and have a Turbo engine. You're gaining sounds from an intake on these Motors, Zero performance. Get an exhaust and buy the PRL drop in filter for the stock box

[@ElViperr408]

@@thinkforyourself5672 yea the Si 10thgen and above have turbo. atm I’m thinking about getting a 27Won Exhaust but those are gone

[@rolandotillit2867]

Low speed pre-ignition?

[@jok3yjesu339]

Previous l15b7 bottom end and the new l15ca head on it? (Should work) I did some research and that head actually looks like the 10th gen accord 1.5 head hmm wtf is honda doing

[@blownheadgasket_]

I clicked out, so much filler LOL. Just get straight to the point or be actually entertaining. have fun

[@jok3yjesu339]

What I'm curious of is can you put In the previous l15b7 into the new civic ?

[@thefoatmedia]

We are curious too….

[@yoltsbp]

Probably was pushing 500+whp. My 10th gen is doing 300whp on 93oct at 21lbs boost so to run e65 and 26lbs that things ripping.

[@allyance8846]

Yeah, it was probably pushing 500+whp. That’s simply too much to ask from a stock K-series let alone L15CA!

[@perfectshineautodetailing9884]

I have a 11 automatic 1.5 180hp what upgrade should I do with out damaging the car thank you 🙏

[@TylerN945]

You can prob run an OTS tune but you'll be putting more stress on the CVT with any performance mod.

[@miketeo4627]

Do you guys have any plans to rebuild this engine and bring back more videos?

[@thefoatmedia]

We put it back to stock motor. We don’t have the car anymore. We now have a FL5 Type R

[@jermaineyax6829]

Aww Damn. Now I'm wondering if I should just go with a Camry XSE now. Been saving up for down payment for Civic Si

[@chorizojuice]

Idk wat numbers the camry is putting down but the si is still a very fun car. Especially with a tuner. Dont be abusive n the car will last a long time.

[@omarmedina9589]

This was a dope ass video time to drop forged internals in my 11th gen

[@thefoatmedia]

We have to go custom but be sure to subscribe to see what we do! Thanks for watching. It was a long one.

[@Alexbuilt]

@@thefoatmedia sanez is falling apart. Are they even making new rods for the 11th gen bigger rod bearings? If the mains are the same just run a 10th gen crank and throw rods already made to save time. Although the larger rod bearings are better might not be worth the wait

[@darkknight097]

Don't do it. Not worth it, trust me. Stay with the OTS tunes and just accept the car for what it is. I was fbo, bigger turbo and built motor put in my 10th gen si, still ended up losing 3rd and 4th gear. After awhile, i realized how much money was wasted in a platform that was doomed from pushing it from the beginning. Ended up getting an 05 s2000 with a f22c1. For the same money put into the SI, this s2k would've been making near 600rwhp with stock internals and would be fine at that power. Get you a 8th or 9th gen with a k series in it. Or even an EK or EG as a project car and put your time and money into something that's actually a proven platform and not be a ticking time bomb.

[@NOBODYATALL1111]

So it begins…

[@thefoatmedia]

Started.

[@atemegabites2251]

So …. Honda not gonna cover it under warranty ??

[@valerian1769]

Break in period?

[@Cary_mac]

What turned me off on new Hondas is the dinky 1.5L. Why so small?

[@xcelr8auto965]

Should I be worried about my 2022 SI? I did an intake, downpipe, front pipe, flex fuel kit, and Hondata stage 2. I daily drive it, but haven't taken it out to the track yet.

[@meower6303]

I want to do all that to mine except for the the flex fuel and hondata

[@FB6K24Z7]

This engine blew coz he installed a bigger turbo with 29 pounds of boost is no joke the motor blew after 20k miles with stupid amount of abuse which already did the damage to the motor big turbo and nitrous on stock internals is like poison for the motor and now switching back to the factory turbo didn't matter the damage was already done to the weak point on these L-series turbo engines the connecting rods got bent when he was doing a lap and the motors done if you have full bolt ons and stock turbo and the correct tune you won't have any problems also if you race it alot or drive it hard switch to 10w30 viscosity motor oil will be better in the long run for your motor as they produce alot of heat and 0w20 is thin like water already

[@ktakashismith]

@@FB6K24Z7 lol you can throw an upgraded turbo and 30psi at an E888 in a GTi and it'll take that "stupid amount of abuse" absolutely no problem, stop making excuses for Honda putting an economy car motor in their "tuner" model Civic. Not the first L15B I've seen grenade, definitely not going to be the last.

[@mikemarrone9303]

Great video do you think it’s possible to put the 2.0 L type r block with the L15 head ? Basically like a k20/k24 build

[@letd1995]

It’s not

[@dougritter429]

K series not compatible with L series.

[@jok3yjesu339]

Idk if yall upgraded the map sensor but isn't the stock map sensor capped at like 32 psi or so. Just a thought I had watching the video again

[@thefoatmedia]

Stock map sensor. We didn’t go passed the limit, when you do an error code tends to pop up.

[@jok3yjesu339]

@@thefoatmedia ah makes sense

[@Ransack777]

Holy shit 29 pounds of boost on the stock motor. Pretty safe to say that all the people freaking out with OTS tunes are safe. That's a lot of boost.

[@mistamaog]

The stock tune uses around 20 pounds of boost so I don't think it'll be uncommon for people to try to push closer to 30 for significant gains

[@Ransack777]

@@mistamaog You do realize how much more power is in 9 pounds of boost on stock internals. OTS tune peak at 23 -24 psi on there higher stage tunes. 29 to 30 is a lot.

[@mistamaog]

@@Ransack777 Sorry, I don't mean to sound like I'm underplaying how much power it is, I just mean that people would look at the stock amount of boost and probably not realize that pushing almost 50% more is quite a lot for the motor to handle.

[@lostboysrideordie]

Are you able to erase the flash counter if this happens to a customer with your Stage1 tune? Did Honda warranty the engine? Why would Honda make a worse engine in the 11th gen when it's supposed to be the exact same engine as the 10th gen? Why are the rods different than 10th gen? Im aware what YoLo tune is when you dont check the Hondata mods list and upload boost scramble that makes 30psi. I am a little concerned now even at stage 1.

[@chorizojuice]

Id like to know too if there was away to reset it to show it was never tuned. I highly doubt it tho.

[@lostboysrideordie]

@R C there is a way but probably not available to the public. Flashing is essentially hacking the ECU. It's up to the engineers to design the program "valet mode" "antilag" etc. Based on no one responding I'm guessing we are on our own. You could have Honda reflash the ECU claiming your a second owner of the car. See what they see. It boils down to what dealership u take your blown engine. How keen are they to think you were "racing". Lmao

[@barry.bessinger]

I'm a little concerned now.....how much torque and boost pressure does the Powermetric Stage 1 tune develop ?

[@madbikes]

The build in the video has upgraded turbo with slightly more power than the current gen Type R

[@barry.bessinger]

@@madbikes I would still like someone to tell me how much boost and torque the Powermetric stage 1 tune develops. Thx

[@slowka]

For those doubting the new L15 reliability,there is a 2022 that did 250K miles in one year that was for sale with no issues noted in service history.

[@Alexbuilt]

Bro that literally has nothing to do with anything. With enough maintenance you can go 250k with a bone stock chevy cruise. Really stupid analogy. 90 percent of people buy sis to mod them and they end up blowing up.

[@kekistani2373]

lol that was an unmolested Lame15 engine that went on road trips

[@richardledesma1675]

Reliability under power and torque increase is what people worry about

[@sc4r.mp218]

That is all highway miles. That doesn't mean anything

[@blakelip3]

Looks like what happened to Takumi and his 86😢😢😢

[@brandon5411]

Anything to worry about with these engines in stock form?

[@thefoatmedia]

No and if there is a problem, you got warranty.

[@samirali7178]

😢 that is so sad 😢 i can't believe it the Si didn't even do a lap time.

[@thefoatmedia]

Keep in mind we put it through a lot of abuse before the track.

[@powerstroketurbo95]

Here are my observations, the car wasnt broken in, it went through a lot of dyno pulls, a lot of racing, it was sprayed with nitrous without every adjusting timing for it, then they proceed to add e85 and a bigger turbo on what seems to be an outdated L15B7 tune which is a non-vtec motor. I understand this was an experiment but people are acting like this car will blow as soon as you tune it. If you wait until there are adequate tunes available, break in the car, and dont blow nitrous in the intake for the fuck of it you should be fine. I am hoping these guys go back and build this motor and find what “went wrong”.

[@thefoatmedia]

We know what went wrong, it's too much abuse for a little stock engine. Tune was not outdated, every time the car was on the dyno, you can see the tuner inside the vehicle and adjustments were made accordingly. It's not new that these motors are not meant to be pushed and torque is what blows them. Could you make them last? Yes, but they will not be fast. People just need to understand what they purchase and keep realistic expectations. The K20's are way stronger from the factory. Anything can be built to be fast but that comes at a cost, our 10th Gen is still the highest HP and fastest 1.5L and it was not an easy journey lol. What we have not shown is putting a stock motor back in this 11th Gen Si and tuning it to be more "reliable" but again it's not as fast (of course). Thanks for your feedback and watching. We will show those updates eventually.

[@polkmyster7781]

So bolt ons intake downpipe intercooler exusuet of the shelf ktune do you guy's believe the motor can handle that as a daily

[@thefoatmedia]

Depends what the power output is and type of abuse you put on it.

[@polkmyster7781]

@@thefoatmedia yes very true. I'm just looking for a little more power nothing crazy I'm sure stage 3 intake and exhaust will make it feel and sound a little better. Watched your tear down pretty much exactly what you guys said it would be.

[@slowcivic85]

Do i need a tune for just cold air? Just wondering when i need to start getting a tune? Currently stock. I don't plan on doing a bunch of modding. It is just my daily

[@drewpeacock3798]

How much HP was this thing pushing before it blew?

[@thefoatmedia]

340HP

[@m573rmzds2]

My 11th Gen SI has 255HP and 275 torque. I lean into it….I can feel when the engine is under too much load. As a daily it has a sweet spot. When I lean into it I find that sweet spot and then…..BAM!!! You find it difficult to catch my car!!! Mind you the temps where I live are always cooler. It’s not the machine it’s the man behind the machine!

[@CashCampos]

Mind dropping the build?

[@m573rmzds2]

@@CashCampos same like everyone else… the typical bolt on’s..,PRL Catted downpipe and front pipe. PRL intercooler and charge pipes. 27won “Race” rear engine mount and Strut Bar. Just the drop in PRL air filter, Custom Tuned using Honda “Race” Flash pro. D2 Coilovers and the 27won big brake kit. The brake kit is sitting in my garage waiting for the spring for installation as it’s winter in Canada. I ease into it at lower rpm’s and then when I feel it I let it loose….very hard to catch. Sometimes when I push it I’ll feel the engine loading up and I’ll back off. I think I feel the clutch slip a tiny bit on some pulls but nothing major yet probably because I lean into it rather than drop it. But in all honesty I should have bought the Type R or the Golf R instead.

[@thefoatmedia]

That’s great, but we don’t like limited. Full send all the time and while it holds, no one will catch it…until it ends up with a hole and on the side of a road 🤣

[@thinkforyourself5672]

What Tuner are you using that pushed 255 from the Si with Bolt On's?

[@m573rmzds2]

@@thinkforyourself5672 I used a Hondata “Race” Flash Pro and brought it to a reputable tuner and paid $700 for a custom tune

[@N3rdburgring]

They would sell waaaaaaay more of these with a 2.0. Hell I wouldn’t even care if the output was still the same, smaller turbo, different cams, whatever they’d have to do to not feel like it takes sales from the Type R. I just could never trust the 1.5 to consistently hold up to modifications and high strain from hard use

[@Blackdawn80]

Honda knows that, they also know that no one can get a CTR at MSRP so they are happy keep things the way they are.

[@N3rdburgring]

@@Blackdawn80 yeah but Honda doesn’t necessarily benefit from extreme dealer markup, the dealers have already bought the car from Honda. It’s really only the middlemen (dealers) that benefit from that. In fact, people aren’t buying certain cool new cars that come out because they can’t get them at sticker and could buy something nicer for the same amount, so it really just adds to manufacturers not being as interested in building cool shit anymore. That’s why some manufacturers are trying to fight markup, it’s killing sales.

[@Blackdawn80]

@@N3rdburgring I agree but Honda isn’t doing anything about it in this case. Even the SI has terrible markups and that car is as close to a base civic as it’s ever been.

[@N3rdburgring]

@@Blackdawn80 basically, shit sucks homie. 😂

[@Blackdawn80]

@@N3rdburgring Only if you are overpaying for a Civic.

[@CompetitionSmoker]

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if oil dilution was to blame for the fail. Apparently, the issue still exists with the L15 platform with another class action lawsuit in the process. Going E85 might have been too corrosive for engine internals. I have a 22' Si that blew up as well with just a clutch, intake, DP, and a tune from Derek Robinson. I doubt I made as much power as this guy did and my car just blew up cruising down the highway. Perhaps, these mods sped up the occurrence of this failure; however, it probably would have happened anyways. People are having this happen to their new cars with no mods, so Honda should be held accountable for selling the new Si under the assumption that it's a reliable performance vehicle and hiding design flaws they were aware about.

[@B.K.7]

No oil dillution on my 22 Si, had it for about 6 months now. What happened with yours? Did you get it replaced under warranty or what? Curious how that turned out for you. I am running the TSP tune myself...

[@mattwilliams3508]

I wish I had a k20a2 in my si

[@4door4banger]

Should I be worried , 10th gen FBO pushing 26 psi . I’ve ran it for 10k miles seeing these videos make me wanna save up for a block already

[@theghxst5001]

My point is what is that engine?

[@lucidgravitationalpull2234]

Hey I only have 18000 miles on my 2022 civic si and mines also blew with only 250 horsepower !!! Is this engine defective you think ?????

[@ryanb8736]

Honda didn’t build it for performance. Unfortunately. Inflation pushed them to cut back. I wish they gave more and charged more.

[@brisevans8976]

I hope Alec desmec sees this video talking bout some I’m wrong about The L series 😂😂

[@JakeHolder]

Did they cover it under warranty?

[@lucidgravitationalpull2234]

@@JakeHolder no they didn’t…. But they did help me file a claim in my insurance and I only had to pay $500 for a $10000 job so can’t complain saved myself a lot of money

[@Fa5Squad]

Doesnt matter which engine youre using 28psi is gonna blow up any stock block

[@CarlosGarcia-xu2cy]

Would a downpipe , intercooler , drop in filter be too much power? Lol serious question.

[@thinkforyourself5672]

No it wouldn't because without a tune it wouldn't do anything power wise. Do it right and get a custom tune from a reputable Tuner only. For an E-Tune I highly recommend Mike the Tuner ( Mike Sweeney) or D-Rob (Derek Robinson)

[@CarlosGarcia-xu2cy]

@@thinkforyourself5672 it's complicated because I live in California. I'd like a tune but after 250 Torque the clutch slips. So I'd rather just go with the bolt ons previously mentioned for reliability purposes. Also can go back to stock when needed.. might just look for another car to be honest don't wanna have to buy a new clutch and wait for forged internals for a brand new car 😒

[@thinkforyourself5672]

@@CarlosGarcia-xu2cy The only issue with the bolt on's and no tune is you're not going to get any of the benefits from the parts.

[@randycraig5033]

D-Rob is the man and is tuning my Integra 1.5t with recently upgraded turbo@@thinkforyourself5672

[@trumpet1604]

Just going to say it, this is why I never liked the newer Si when they went to the 1.5L turbo motor. It was designed for economy not racing. I wish the Si had a non turbo K20 or detuned K20C.

[@Hadouken365]

So the 10th gen SI has "harder" rods? How do we know that for sure?

[@jordancrowder9331]

Exactly my question

[@aidanobrien2360]

cause the new one is in bits 🤣

[@wanderbread4217]

the 1oth gen Si's have slighlty larger pistons, rods, and turbos

[@jordancrowder9331]

I wonder why they would make the newer ones thinner and smaller.

[@jordancrowder9331]

Guess it's good to hang on to my 2020 si then

[@drewpeacock3798]

Two step performance managed to push this car to 300+ with no issues. They didn’t upgrade the piston rods.

[@thefoatmedia]

This one also made 300+ on a mustang dyno before detuning it like in this video. Check out the older videos when you get a chance. You can also tune the torque down for longevity but that's no fun. lol

[@nsxmatt]

There are people who run the 1.5 to 350whp on e85 everyday with zero issues. Thats a bone stock 1.5 liter engine pushing over 400 crank horsepower and people are saying it's junk? Um...no. People are just delusional with their expectations. The engine is strong and reliable WHEN it's used correctly and with the right tuner. Not talking about DROB's time bomb tunes either.

[@CarlosGarcia-xu2cy]

Links

[@nsxmatt]

@@CarlosGarcia-xu2cy I’m not google, don’t be lazy. Do your research

[@thefoatmedia]

We're one of them. We own two Civic X that used to run around 350hp no issues for years. We were the first to put the L15 on E85. You can definitely tune it to be more reliable but for this build we purposely gave it all the torque. lol

[@TrashCanMatt_]

all the old civic boiz like to hate on the new ones because they have 334 credit scores and can't afford a new Si.

[@wanderbread4217]

and get the ARP headstuds

[@JonHop1]

Those 1.5t new Honda motors are garbo.. Needs a old B series Type R swap! That little 1.6L can RIP and rev to 10k!

[@cloud-ny5ux]

well this aged well

[@thefoatmedia]

Tight right.

[@JoshOn2Wheelss]

They just don’t make em like they use to huh? 😩

[@thefoatmedia]

Nope. Lol

[@JoshOn2Wheelss]

@@thefoatmedia nah i have the same issue with my k24a2 i blew like 4 lol

[@TrashCanMatt_]

@@JoshOn2Wheelss don't tell the haters of the new SI that. They couldn't afford one anyways.

[@jonathanlee3046]

What next update please?

[@thefoatmedia]

We put it back to stock clean and now we have a FL5 Type R

[@Sergeant_GiO]

For that reason, I stop putting stuff on my 11th gen. Waiting to catch a Type R. Good video!

[@thefoatmedia]

Thanks for watching

[@STG6_Phearable]

@@adama.4082 hey yo I got a 2018 Honda Accord Sport 1.5 Turbo and the only thing that I'm looking to do as far as serious modifications are concerned is a basic DCT or DSG swap I might have to have that transmission program to my car but that's not the issue what I wanted to point out is that you make a good point my engine is not an l15c it's a l15be is basically the 10th gen SI engine but with the better head and a smaller Turbo oh and VTEC on the exhaust cam so relatively a better High flowing l15b with VTEC also when I first got this car I had 7500 miles on it so it had already been broken in I never abused the car I never ran it hard when I first got it I always followed the manual ran 0w-20 oil and 87 octane gas I noticed that the car was very sluggish and the simple fact that sometimes the engine would Surge switched out the oil to 5W30 never had that problem again started using 91 octane car drove and felt smoother now as of today I'm at 50,100 something miles have not had a single issue at all I have a race chip GTS piggyback tune installed in my car as well as a short ram air adapter and a muffler and resonator delete I'm in Texas now so they have 93 octane gas still no issues at all no head left nothing I have a little knowledge of my engine I'm well aware that even if I am to put a dual clutch transmission in my car I would still have to swap the block for a stronger block because if I'm not mistaken even with pistons and rods in within the rotating assembly the block itself can't take no more than about 400 to 450 wheel horsepower so I'm going to have to swap that out for a closed deck l15 B7 from TSP which can take about 600 plus wheel horsepower I'm planning on building my car the way I want but at the same time unlike these guys I'm well aware that these parts have to be upgraded there is a variety of things I have to get skunk2 intake manifold port injection a bigger Turbo E85 cat down pipe Etc you get the drift I'm trying to push at least 550-650 wheel horsepower and this is with the built motor L15B are strong and I think my engine might be better than the si or any other variant because my head flows better the issue is that my Turbo is smaller than the si, other than that, we got the same internals, the same block design but I have the superior head flow.

[@chorizojuice]

@Adam A. i didnt know all that i though he only had afew k miles on it. That makes me feel more confident that fbo wont be an issue. Maybe just no ethanol

[@sneaks2840]

It's worse than i thought. damn

[@Virt7_]

For people really wanting more power don’t push more than 23psi… that’s the safe spot

[@thefoatmedia]

👌

[@coredaqqer6197]

If y’all were gonna abuse the car like that you should’ve just got the HPD FE1.

[@thefoatmedia]

Can’t put that on the street & hpd is an entire package. Thankfully we have the resources to create a build that works for what we plan on using / abusing it for.

[@inspireracing523]

The engine needs a new intercooler.

[@thefoatmedia]

We had a PRL intercooler on our Si

[@westcottdesigns]

What about doing a k20 swap?😊

[@dougritter429]

Buy a new Si and buy a K20 is stupid. Just buy a faster car.

[@westcottdesigns]

@@dougritter429 already done and had 4PistonRacing build the motor! Oh well!

[@STG6_Phearable]

@@westcottdesigns did you buy a 11th generation Civic SI input a K20 in it and if you did what k series was it

[@westcottdesigns]

@@STG6_Phearable I bought a new 2022 Civic SI and a bought a new complete K20C1 and sent to to 4Piston Racing to fully build the motor and now it’s a 2.1 liter.

[@JakeHolder]

@@westcottdesigns how much did that run you? Lol

[@dg7438]

Ugh, why did Honda put such a dud engine on this otherwise perfect shifting car

[@thefoatmedia]

We don’t think these cars are meant to be pushed to these limits.

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Be careful not to adopt jay lenos hand

[@thefoatmedia]

:O Too soon.

[@ds-yu4dh]

Was going to get a downpipe only and now these comments is making me not want to change anything out.

[@thefoatmedia]

Always remember even if you leave it 100% stock things can still mess up, which is why we have lemon laws.

[@borisstupar5147]

Honda 1.5l turbo engine is not the way to go! Already previous generation had oil dilution problem.....the way to go is naturally aspirated 2l VTEC which comes in base model! Or the type -r!

[@snowfreak207]

Too much touque off the line need to ramp it in

[@XeroFailGames]

I still think both gen si should have had everything type r has and come with 300 hp and the type r should have been a murder machine pushing like 410 hp i see no one here in comments section having an issue paying like 30k for an si and 37k for a type r

[@Sonic_1000]

Those 1.5 turbos are a disgrace. My 2008 Si and 14 Si was more reliable, more engaging to drive and sounded WAY better.

[@squirtcobain8460]

13:00

[@matteugenio]

Moral of the story: Keep the motor stock for maximum reliability.

[@thefoatmedia]

Exactly!

[@dougritter429]

Waste of time and money to build up a L15.

[@copperkeyracing6167]

Honda should be ashamed of themselves, part 2... 12:18 "If we didn't want to have fun... buy a prius"... but the funny thing is, the new stock prius has more power and is faster than the new 11gen stock Si. 220hp vs 200hp. 0to60 in 6.6sec vs 6.7sec. It also looks incredible! Even compared to the 11gen Si.

[@saltycanadian6190]

Worst engine Honda has ever made 100% I’m thinking the new k20 can handle more boost.