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[@alyssajade7699]

U forgot to tell us the rules n boundaries

[@veradanylyszyn485]

Next Divorce. This is over

[@user-tl7gx1gx8q]

No thank you... filling your body with toxic and rubbish.. it does not help.. Google it.... used to like you but not now... you galloping and galvanising jealousy will creep in and marriage is pointless on the brink of failure...

[@R3str1ct3dM1nds]

Set each other free and you'll be happy! Stop this OPEN stuff because it will not work and it will be a mess.

[@StrawberryWyldeflower]

Don't confuse the dependence you have for love. You're opening your marriage up because you're not enough for each other. You're in a habit you don't want to break, its safe and comfy but this ain't it. You're done.

[@CEB731]

She's in America now so she doesn't need Eileen anymore.

[@elizabethbalan4853]

@@CEB731my girlfriend is in Brazil since May while I’m here in Alaska & it’s not easy but we love each other so much & don’t mind each other having friendships you know? But to open our relationship & see other people has never been brought up. That’s not what we want. We want each other. But that’s just me who knows what’s really going on with them…

[@CEB731]

@@elizabethbalan4853 What's really going on is that the whole relationship is built on lust and needs...not real love.

[@Flawdagal]

​@@CEB731have you watched Julia's new video upload? Doesnt seem like she needs Eileen as much as Eileen needs her 🤷‍♀️

[@CEB731]

@@FlawdagalI will check it out. Eileen should have known better. They both have issues in my eyes.

[@crvenalee]

After watching Julia's heartbreaking video, I just came to say: please leave, Julia. Bring back your joy, your life, yourself. You deserve the World.

[@KaiBane]

What happened?

[@LLace]

Why don’t u tell the other *yke to leave and bring back *her* joy ? Cuz u bias af and automatically side with the young, pretty girl over the older lady. Figures …💤💤🤦🏾

[@crvenalee]

​@@LLaceYou tell her.🤷🏼‍♀️ I don't feel so sorry for a 60 years old who thinks she can keep up with 20 years old, by being a couch potato and spending her money in difficult times. She's experienced enough to know better. Julia was naive enough to think it will work, but she wasn't naive at all.

[@KatM272]

What video are you referring to?

[@algore4u]

Opening your marriage after years of being monogamous is basically saying without saying that you aren't happy in your marriage and trying to use your partner as a placeholder until you find someone who ends up checking all your boxes

[@nazbah5929]

Lol 😂

[@chubbybunny3778]

This!

[@HopefulInterventions]

Exactly!!

[@Synfulz.]

thanks now they are divorced

[@becki.p]

Sometimes love isn't enough, and it's okay to let the marriage go and keep the friendship.

[@cynthiamayfield5664]

I feel that it’s time for you both to move on. You don’t open a relationship to solve your problems. If your foundation was beginning to crumble, then adding more people will not help. You need a strong relationship and communication. Your age difference is significant and at certain times in one’s life age does matter. You are at the beginning of your life. You are still working and trying to further your music career. Eileen is retired and most likely wants to have more relaxing activities and time. You’re at completely different stages of life.

[@PackGodjr-549]

💯 right

[@EmCat]

Oh man, thanks so much for that statement. Most people are of the mindset that as long as you're 18+ (a "legal" adult), then you're good to go - you can date any other adult because you're an adult. But it's all BS. Even 10 years is a lot between adults simply because of the generational interest gap/how you are raised. Honestly, it really is just weird to date someone way too old or young for you no matter your age because of the lack of common interest. I've seen so many age-gapped couples crumble this way, including my own parents. Also, big warning flag when Eileen confessed she has no sex drive. Very common for elderly folks and most of them stop having sex entirely. So...it doesn't look like an ideal situation.

[@louwinters508]

That other couple opened their relationship up to try and fix it. They broke up very soon after. Bria and somebody. Can't remember. But it was so obvious they weren't working.

[@jenineroman2225]

Facts!!!

[@sunshinesideofdarkside]

As someone who is poly this is not the answer for monogamous couples. People who are naturally monogamous don't try polyamory please! I think you got married way too fast and though you may care about each other you should have taken it much slower.

[@oofihavenousernameideas2451]

This!!! They literally got engaged 4 months after starting to date… that’s way too fast to really know and understand who your with. They ran with the honeymoon phase and now it’s gone and they’re slowly realize they’re not as compatible as they thought.

[@leiashermanxx2126]

I agree my best friend is poly and I love him dearly and even he said that them trying to be open is stupid as they don't love each other anymore am in a 3 year relationship and me and my husband to be said we couldn't even sleep with someone else maybe its best for them to end itcf

[@alessandrajackson3768]

THIS!!!!

[@Veeolet-Luv]

Im mono, If I had to open my relationship, it' s because of physical affection not because of the love. I know I can only love one person at a time. It's very touchy to say something about their relationship. I feel like she want to play and because they have a big gap, she's not that energetic, and many other reasons, she feel the needs to play outside but she might be truly be in love with her so she don't want to divorce and ask for some type of agreement. 🤔

[@dawnriddler]

You do realise most people start as mono? You aren't born thinking that you're poly. It takes a lot of time and relationships to figure out what works for you. And it won't be the same with every single person you're with. Although, I do agree that a few months isn't enough to even start a relationship, let alone marriage.

[@Geeoorrggiiaa45]

If your wife isnt enough for you regardless of age end the relationship. She’s not your person . You’re trying to make something work that doesn’t exist anymore , it’s only going to end in one of you getting hurt and I fear it’ll be Eileen. You’re at different stages in your life, heightened by the age difference you two have , but you also should have known that when you married her.

[@emillychen888]

i totally agree with you!

[@sophie-963]

Agree

[@therealtifflen]

Lots of people have open relationships and it’s OK. You’re acting like everyone is the same. Everyone is not the same and what works for some doesn’t work for others… stop hating/judging.

[@mawmawmakeup3602]

@@therealtifflen yeah but they are insanely jealous people. Who have a relationship that is falling apart. Adding in others to this dynamic isnt healthy.. I genuinly believe this idea was Julias Idea. Not Eileens. So she can have her cake and eat it too And Poor Eileen is going to put up with the nonsense and do it because she loves Julia and im sure Julia trying to 'unalive' herself and probably giving Eileen an ultimatum to open the relationship up or end it ; played a huge roll in all this. For starters i also think ANYONE who uses Suicide to manipulate a partner needs to get serious mental help.. as its manipulative and unfair to your partner. It puts them in a horrendous situation. Eileen has done so much to appease Julia and shes just never happy One of those people you can never please.

[@milagrosgranados1316]

I totally agree with you

[@AngD03]

I took a drink every time Eileen said, “yeah” and now I’m drunk. I give them ten months. Open relationships do not work. Seek therapy.

[@user-gt1mb3uu7b]

Have you seen the latest video- I think couples therapy isn’t the answer. I feel so sorry for Julia- she needs her own therapy 😢

[@missycitty9478]

@@user-gt1mb3uu7b no. They BOTH need deep therapy.

[@ladyredl3210]

I’ve been ENM for 12 years, it does work, if you’re doing it for the right reason. Opening a previously monog relationship because you’re having issues isn’t the right reason.

[@savannahgreene7]

They absolutely do. Such a close minded and ignorant statement

[@theklav2914]

@@ladyredl3210 hi whats ENM?

[@sleepialien]

imagine opening your marriage just because you're struggling as a couple??? so instead of working on your issues, the solution is to sleep with other people 🤣

[@blossomalchemy]

It’s not hard to imagine so many people do it.

[@L_A_hott]

That could be a solution to some couples..not every couple is the same

[@ryzaemm1]

I've always watched their videos and thought 'aw this is cute'....but this video just feels different. This is the first video I've watched where I almost feel like they are more friends than lovers, and honestly I feel that's what they are better suited as such

[@blossomalchemy]

@@ryzaemm1 I agree they definitely suit more being friends.

[@Sileaine]

Watching her newest video answers a lot of questions

[@KF-yj2wz]

It feels like you guys are growing apart and that you're doing this because you can't let go of eachother yet. But im just basing this of watching your videos for years and will never know what is actually going on. I just hope you will follow your heart and never forget that your feelings are valid and there for a reason❤ Love your videos! (Btw i recently came across your song twisted and i still love it so much, its stuck in my head now😂❤)

[@purpledragonfly4]

*Oh come on. This is a joke now right?! Divorce and be done with it!! You realized the age gap was too large, you're not compatible and instead of facing facts, you decide to cheat and call it ethical!*

[@ariannagutierrez3128]

It’s not that easy just to divorce someone that you have loved for years. It’s not easy to leave someone even after everything they’ve done to you. It’s not easy at all! She is in an open marriage because Julia needs more emotional support, but she doesn’t want to leave Eileen, so I guess it works out but at the same time I understand what you’re saying honestly, Julia should just leave her because she’s using her

[@matcat2266]

The way they look at each other. A sense of sadness/defeat in Eileen's eyes and the lack of passion in Julia's. There is no romance left. But, I can understand it's painful to leave. This is very hard to watch 😔.

[@sophiaramos245]

That’s what I was thinking too 🙁

[@lizzi7128]

They should just be great friends

[@moniuk2405]

Indeed, and Julian just want to make more videos about it, poor Eileen, this is too painful for her

[@rose_yts]

I think it's the opposite. Lack of passion in Eileen's eyes and sadness/defeat in Julia's.

[@lizzi7128]

@@rose_yts same. And that also would make more sense with what they've discussed re hurdles moving forward

[@MisacearoVII]

Being in a delulu situation after months or years of marriage/relationships isn't healthy for both of you. Eileen seems to take it so maturely yet the pain in her eyes and the defeat in her heart is clear like crystal. It's like a soft long term way to break up more than to heal a marriage that is destined to fail. But if that situationship is enough for you, then we're in no right to judge it.

[@kasiamc4298]

Never heard more of the bulshit. Im in 13 years relationship and never thought of having an open relationship. If ur not happy u just leave pls dont tell me its ok to put in other ppl into ur private life. Feel sorry for Eileen shes an elderly lady who need quite life and here we go ... open relationship...

[@user-rm9xn3tf3v]

This is what we call “I don’t won’t the prove everyone right that we need to break up so instead I’m going to see other people while staying in an unhappy marriage”.

[@doreenchen1024]

Do you want to fool us or yourselves?

[@pinkpotatowarrior]

This is just sad. Julia back then would never dream of sharing her partner with someone else 😞 it's awful she felt so unfulfilled in this relationship emotionally that she feels she has to look elsewhere for that emotional support that Eileen couldn't give her. I understand not wanting to put pressure on Eileen though considering her age. And this seems to work for them. Julia wants more emotionally from a relationship and more support, but Eileen isn't always able to give to her.. and Julia doesn't want to leave Eileen, so this seems like a solution. But... I just hope it doesn't do more harm in the end. We all want you to be truly happy Julia and to never settle. I really hope this feels healthy for you

[@ellex8597]

Bro she liked your comment 😅😂

[@rose_yts]

I agree, but I'm going to be harsher, sorry. Wtf is Eileen thinking? Okay, age is just a number, but in her case, it looks like it's weighing on her (I don't mean literally). Does she think she's going to splash out on dating sprees with lots of young girls?? Unless she wants to be a sugar mamma, then it's okay.

[@EmileeBreeana19]

It’s not a good option.

[@ellex8597]

@@rose_yts if the problem was for Julia, why is Eileen dating anyone if she can't even fully commit to Julia? Like pls girl, pack it up. Why did she marry someone with such different lifestyle than hers? A caretaker

[@pinkpotatowarrior]

@@ellex8597 I agree 100%. Why does Eileen even have the desire to date anyone else? I'd be heart broken if my partner wanted to date other people... I'm sure Julia has days where she feels that heartbreak/jealousy, but she convinces herself that this is the only thing that can work to save their relationship....

[@Thee_Deputy]

This whole relationship has been bruh moment after bruh moment holy hell.

[@LollipopCR]

This seems to be the beginning of the end for this relationship. Love needs to have three elements in order to survive: lust, commitment and tenderness. If they are together then love will bloom and have a solid foundation. If one or two of those aspects are not present then the relationship will start to crumble. Also, the statistics show that the bigger the age gap is the more the chances of breaking up. I think Julia should go to therapy and try to find why she is so attracted to older women. That is particularly important now that they recently spoke about their future plans together. It would be wise to take a break and reconsider things before taking such huge steps together. She needs to heal so she can have a healthy relationship with a person with similar interests and age.

[@amazonionavalon8252]

There aren't always Mummy issues when women are attracted to older women. Sometimes, it's as simple as just being our preference and what we find attractive. I'm Bi & I like older men as well. Always have & always will ❤

[@Booklover-coffeelover]

I somehow disagree with the lust aspect, lust is present mostly at the first stages of the relationship, couples that have been together 10+ years usually lose it and that's fine. But tenderness and commitment are a must.

[@TheVallex]

@@Booklover-coffeelover agreed. Plus, that description leaves out asexual people. Seems pretty outdated to me.

[@Babs.vte.90]

It can work - I've a 18 year gap with my fella who is the older one. Lust after ten years still so strong you wouldn't believe ❤

[@beewest5704]

​@@Booklover-coffeeloverTrust yeah last????

[@Dibujitosdegato]

Use me as a sad button 😢

[@JulioStaysGold]

Sounds like yall should just break up. This sounds exhausting.

[@EmileeBreeana19]

The beginning of the end. Unless a marriage starts out as open, it does not work. You’re both only going to get left with heartbreak. If you’re not happy, divorce. You don’t need to open up your marriage for moral support, you can make friends. If a spouse cannot provide you support when you need it, they’re not a spouse. It’s crazy how Julia is sitting here blaming herself for all of this. I’m praying you see the toxicity of this situation Julia.

[@pinkpotatowarrior]

You make a good point. Julia is not at fault at all here.... it's Eileen. She's not even willing to do the bare minimum to emotionally support her wife... and using her age as an excuse. I get not being there physically with Julia at times, but there's been so many instances where Eileen seems to lack so much effort when supporting Julia emotionally...

[@ellex8597]

The fact that she blamed herself is fucking impressive how in denial she is 🤡. Why is her mom not telling her this? And just because Eileen is retired and old doesnt mean she's fucking disabled. Even physically disabled people can clean the damn house and cook. Like pls...clown behavior. Julia is basically her care taker

[@alexandramoyer8785]

It’s not your relationship so you shouldn’t tell them to get divorced that’s up to them no offense

[@Poseidonblue123]

@@alexandramoyer8785 they don’t have to divorce but people are allowed to have their opinions

[@bransbury2006]

It'll end like bria and chrissy

[@soufimostafavikashani8557]

I respectfully disagree....you don't need to have sex with someone else to get emotional support...you can get emotional support from friends and family...you can open your marriage if you want and you don't even have to explain it to people cause it's your life and you're free, but emotional support is not a good reason and I don't believe it to be true....

[@mxx1236]

Well said

[@dawnriddler]

who mentioned sex? dating doesn't equal sex. After watching her newest video she definitely needs the moral support, cause she surely isn't getting it from her own wife. The only issue here is that, she isn't getting it because her wife is incapable of it, but because she doesn't want to give her the support she needs. And that's a huge red flag. Usually you open a relationship when the person you're with can't meet your needs, not when they "don't want to meet your needs".

[@ivy-gp5to]

You are advising them really??

[@PackGodjr-549]

Facts

[@j0ellyfish]

yeah, i never understood it. that ain't love if you need to get it from another person.

[@Firefly_night]

.... Julia what is wrong with you.

[@blousug]

I think there is a cautionary tale to be told here about age gap couplings; no matter how young a person may act or look, they are still their age. That is just a reality you have to face and life will remind you how different your life stages are. With that being said, I wish both of you happiness. Both of you really deserve it ❤❤❤

[@ExplorewithSarahlouise]

I think 5/10 years etc you can genuinely be more active than the other person even when older but these 30 + gaps will always be a difference I think. I’m 12 years older but don’t notice a difference actually maybe I will down the line, I often find other ppl my age more out of sync. But in this scenario Eileen isn’t focused on health or anythint. If she was at the gym every day lifting weights and eating super healthy and Julia was a bit less active for her age she might be a bit more of an energetic match

[@Stephanie-hl7lo]

I'm in an age gap relationship and we work, just celebrated another anniversary, I think it depends on the couple.

[@wisdomlistens20]

Let’s be honest Eileen is not going to be dating other people stop playing your audience and yourself. Eileen needs to maintain her boundaries strictly and make sure she is not letting them be crossed in trying to be so supportive. Julia should also be aware of her boundaries and attraction. She can’t let a side relationship become her main one she is still married and needs to make efforts to improve communication with her wife.

[@amazonionavalon8252]

If I was married to a woman like Eileen, I'd move heaven and earth to make our marriage work ❤

[@a_s2557]

@@amazonionavalon8252date her then lmao

[@emmo2850]

In my humble opinion , I think it’s already at a late stage. Hope I’m wrong but maybe, just maybe J does have an eye on the horizon. Time shall reveal, remembering also that emotional support is subjective to the individual concerned. Each to their own. Good luck ladies.

[@amazonionavalon8252]

@a_s2557 LMAO 😃 I would (if she was into that) but I'm currently in a great relationship with a man I've been with for 3 years 💕

[@JohnWick74]

No judgement just a opinion - I feel Eileen looks sad imo , and that it possibly (again just my opinion) that it was Julia’s main idea . Again no judgement and I do hope everything works out for them both to be happy .

[@DoesItMatter8]

This ain't it sis. I like you both and I genuinely wish you both the absolute best

[@DoesItMatter8]

@@hayleykiyokoisbae1776 that part💯

[@oofihavenousernameideas2451]

Exactly

[@rxpunzi]

Exactly this

[@aletafarrish7104]

That felt like a goodbye hug at the end.

[@nsanenthembrane]

Yea it does. “You’ll always be my family…farewell…until we meet again” ::dramatically walks off into the wild::

[@brandiva96]

People say age doesn't matter that it is just a number but it really does matter. You have different thoughts and thought processes at different ages. I am 46 and I most definitely do not think the same as I did in my 20's and 30's!

[@oofihavenousernameideas2451]

Exactly. There’s nothing wrong with age gap relationships but you have to be ready to handle the different life stages/perspectives. I know I couldn’t. If this was my relationship I’d probably end up feeling like Julia too.

[@wolf3104]

It matters if you want a serious relationship. If you want just fun, it doesn t matter at all.

[@Rebecca_Bailey]

I don’t do big age gaps and this is the reason why, you’re both at different life stages and you’re not going to have many things in common, you’re going to have completely different tastes in everything

[@brandiva96]

@@Rebecca_Bailey You are SO right!!!!!

[@fickleemu4life401]

Absolutely. I’m 39 and I couldn’t date a 29 year old (unless they were quite mature). I also wouldn’t want to date a man over 44-45 because I fear his sexual desire wouldn’t be strong enough to match my own. Those things really do matter in a relationship.

[@PrettyLittleVampire4]

I just don’t understand why in your New York moving vlog you said you got a single bed because you didn’t want Eileen to think you’re cheating (which is another issue in itself when it comes to trust)

[@Daisyyy445]

It feels like your relationship is changing, which is super normal as years go by, but some relationships can turn away from being romantic to being more of a friendship. You can have a very strong bond with someone that goes from being romantic to being more on just a best friend sort of vibe. That’s what happened in my seven year relationship. Eventually I just felt family/friend love and no longer any romantic love really. That doesn’t mean you leave each other’s lives like it had to happen in my situation, but sometimes forcing the relationship ends up hurting more. Maybe a smooth transition into friendship would be easier. Only the two people in the relationship know what is going on, for sure, though! Wishing you both love and happiness always!

[@sweetascandyxoxo]

It’s called the 7 year itch and it’s a stage that ALL couples go thru. It ends and romance starts up again. So anyone considering leaving just remember it’s a phase!! It doesn’t last

[@ryzaemm1]

I've always watched their videos and thought 'aw this is cute'....but this video just feels different. This is the first video I've watched where I almost feel like they are more friends than lovers, and honestly I feel that's what they are better suited as such

[@silvershoes9724]

Oooookay I’m at that weird bit of the Internet again…

[@gorjuicetisdussy]

Yeah bro me too 💀

[@milagrosgranados1316]

By looking at both there faces Julia looks happy about the open relationship. Eileen doesn't look too happy. I feel she is just going along with it so she doesn't loose Julia. This is truly sad. Julia wanted a open relationship because she needed moral support. You can get moral support from your family and friends. She suffers from depression and anxiety why not get help. See a counselor when your stressed out. I feel Julia is full of excuses. If you aren't happy with your partner try marriage counseling. If she isn't fulfilling your needs then let Eileen go. If you want a woman who is more outgoing and who is working then find a woman that fits your needs. Your not being fair to Eileen. Nobody wants to feel there not enough for their spouse. Let Eileen live her life and find someone who actually appreciates her for who she is. Julia knew what she was getting herself into when she married a older woman. If you don't want the responsibility of taking care of someone perhaps date someone your age.

[@loisgibson2101]

I agree

[@Haannnaaaah]

I agree.

[@CEB731]

She just wanted to get to America

[@zsigzsag]

I suspect their entire relationship even on being featured on other channels was perfectly staged. A lot of these "shows' are staged to bring monetization to the channels. Eileen looks to be intelligent, warm and friendly. Being attracted to an over the top circus clown just doesn't add up. She's a darn good actress if that's the case.

[@irenekay7934]

​@@CEB731they moved? I haven't watched them in a good while

[@alessandrajackson3768]

Unless the marriage STARTS open….it shouldn’t open up. I now know 4 people separated or divorced because instead of working through the issues or just separating, they brought other people into the relationship. The only successful relationships I know of are monogamous or the one of my two friends who were just open the whole time. Please save yourself the heartache and stress babes. This isn’t fair to you!

[@KittyCatFurbabiesMaria1972]

Not true for all , everyone is not the same . I been with my husband 32 years , married 28 and we opened our relationship up 10 years ago … we’re still together , still each other’s soul mates and still deeply in love . I hope it works out for Julia and Eileen how they want . Not everyone is not the same and what works for some , won’t work for others .

[@alessandrajackson3768]

@@KittyCatFurbabiesMaria1972 I had a modeling coach who opened their relationship after 5 years and they were together for another 20, until his husband found out he was cheating. It blurs the line of what is ok and what isn’t. I hope it works out for you, but majority of people it is a disaster for.

[@haneazuko6422]

Umm. I am starting to think Eileen is not the toxic one....

[@litago93]

Why?

[@EmileeBreeana19]

The whole relationship is toxic period.

[@blousug]

I think people confuse toxic relationships with challenges in a relationship. I have never met a couple that doesn’t have some sort of challenge in their relationship. Julia herself admitted that in the beginning, she thought everything in her marriage was going to be great but quickly realized that is not the case. Everyone’s relationship changes, but you hope you can change and adjust together.

[@claudia-cx6dc]

​@@EmileeBreeana19its not toxic, they just dont work together, which isnt surprising, because age isnt just a number

[@user-tl7gx1gx8q]

Complete agree with you.. fame has gone into julia head.. Eileen is just a meal ticket and somewhere to stay

[@liannekennedy4338]

You struggled in the pandemic? Only a year into your marriage?

[@bonnieletson3043]

Sorry…. I just don’t understand the open marriage thing I made my wedding vows was I will love “you” through all things that life has to throw at us. And I have been marred for 45 years now, and we still stick to our vows!

[@DesireeandOhana]

My heart call out to you Julia. I feel like I can feel your pain in this video. It seems like such a sad video. I love you both and wish you both nothing but happiness. Julia it’s ok to say that it didn’t work out with somebody. You can still love somebody and have lots of respect and love for them but you don’t have to stay with them. People grow apart and that’s totally normal and ok we are all human. I hope this open relationship works out for the both of you. It hurts me to hear that you feel like you weren’t getting the enough support in your marriage and had to go outside the marriage to find it. And it also hurts me that you feel like you don’t want to put the pressure on your wife just because of her age. Take care of yourself fist Julia because you can’t help anyone else if your not talking care of yourself first and foremost.Thanks for being so vulnerable and honest with the people that support you both. Much love.

[@roselikethewine]

I think it’s more shame than pain… The fact that they were dating other people was always obvious to me. But it seemed like Julia wanted to keep it a secret for a plethora of reasons but with all the new music videos coming out with her kissing other women and seemingly enjoying it I’m sure a lot of people had questions and were starting to catch on.

[@EstablishGrowOnline]

@@roselikethewineI was relatively sure she was going to introduce the girl from the vampire music video (1st one) as her gf! There was a ton of chemistry there…

[@EstablishGrowOnline]

You definitely have a perfect response. Eileen is lovely but worried it could hurt them both more rather than just pull the bandaid off. I am sure there are circumstances we obvs aren’t aware of but… ugh. Dread either of them suffering anymore than needed.

[@roselikethewine]

@@EstablishGrowOnline yes girl. There definitely was…

[@andreaac4499]

​@@roselikethewineJulia is dating a man.

[@adamlewis3729]

these 2 are both intellectually lying to themselves. a good relationship wouldnt be effected by jobs or whatever these 2 are talking about.

[@BonitaGorditayChingona]

You will never be “too much” for the right person. Julia, find someone that will love you unconditionally and meet your wants and needs like you deserve.

[@Lena-uh3ky]

Unconditional love is what parents have for their children. Nobody will love you unconditionally. Don't be delusional.

[@emfgdr3150]

@@Lena-uh3ky Not even parents love their children unconditionally, many many people have narcissistic parents my friend. But anyway, I think the word "unconditionally" is kind of problematic anyway, as that tends to guilt people into staying with partners who are abusive, manipulative, or dragging them down bc they feel that can't set boundaries. Of course we shouldn't stop loving people at the drop of a hat, but it's important for relationships (no matter what kind) to be healthy, and for that, certain conditions have to be met.

[@lala4461]

Saying “yeah yeah yeah yeah” like that means “no no no no no” Eileen’s trying to convince herself she’s okay with an open marriage. She’ll go along with anything Julia says in order to not lose her.

[@electrahaney965]

Everybody’s always all like poor Eileen but did anyone ever stop and realize that TWO people are in this relationship and I seriously doubt Julia is the only one with flaws 🤷‍♀️

[@Sileaine]

Yeah Julia new video really shows that people made big assumptions

[@electrahaney965]

@@Sileaine I had my suspicions about Eileen this whole time and it always irritated me how everyone always came at Julia with this poor Eileen crap and oh you’re breaking her heart etc when the whole time Eileen had been draining the life out of Julia. It’s really sad 😞

[@spaceyjacey_]

I promise you guys, it’s not worth it. This will end in heartbreak for one of you.

[@mangakagirl9680]

This is the same thing that Bria and Chrissy did a while ago. Well, they got divorced. Open marriages are not the solution. This is the beginning of the end.

[@StephyBlue]

I was thinking about them as I was watching this!! 😢

[@KittyCatFurbabiesMaria1972]

Not true for everyone , my husband and I been together 32 years , married for 28 and open for 10 years . We still together , still deeply in love and have no intention of ever divorcing 🥰 What works for some , doesn’t necessarily work for all I wish Julia and Eileen much happiness

[@mangakagirl9680]

@@KittyCatFurbabiesMaria1972 glad to hear that this is working for you guys😊 happy for you both! What I was trying to say is that if there are problems within the couple, looking for someone else is not the solution. If you partner can’t give what you want and what you need, you should leave. That’s my humble opinion😊

[@JHODI75]

We all knew this was coming sooner or later. I never thought Julia was genuine anyway.

[@annaclared_]

Something about this just doesn’t seem right or a normal reason to open a marriage. Needing additional emotional support that the partner can’t give as the reason to open just doesn’t seem right as that’s something fixable surely? Sort of sounds like an excuse for just wanting other things Eileen can’t give or that Julia has just realised she isn’t a lesbian?

[@LePapillionBleu]

I’m curious, why get married if you’re gonna have an open relationship? I’ve always believed that marriage equals monogamy, but everyone is different. I hope this arrangement works for you both.

[@user-6K38d95gfH]

Pfffft 😂 marriages were mainly a political and power thing. Look at royalty, they had lovers left and right (kings and queens). So long as the kids were the kings’ they could care less.

[@lithia4483]

Julia and Eileen got married back when they were monogamous. But open marriages definitely can work if both people want it.

[@LePapillionBleu]

@@lithia4483 and what happens to the marriage, if the other falls in love with other person?

[@LePapillionBleu]

Yes, but their marriages were miserable. Personally, I wouldn’t want to share my spouse with anyone else and look what happened to Julia her exploring led her to realize she’s bisexual. What if she falls in love with a man

[@lithia4483]

@@LePapillionBleu Well, divorce is an option, I'm just saying that there are people who are polygamous and still stay with their primary partner for many years. Of course it doesn't always work out, but marriages like this can be successful. Also, I don't think Julia identifies as bisexual, more like experimenting?

[@aleesiauh]

The pink haired one is gonna leave the older lady

[@Otakuhannah121]

That's what we want

[@rosecarolyn5514]

I don’t understand staying married if you’re both turning to outside people for emotional support or a simple cuddle and a chat? Those 2 needs are like the most basic expectations in a marriage…. This video was extremely uncomfortable to watch as well.

[@theklav2914]

Wow. Watching this after watching Julia’s video of her crying and pouring her heart out sharing the truth of the damage Eileen has caused her and the things she has had to endure. As someone who has endured narcissistic abuse, I can just see terror in Eileen’s eyes, she knows that the mask has slipped and she knows the end is near and her grip is loosening. I hope you leave Julia, you deserve so mucu better sweetheart❤

[@Synfulz.]

how do you know its true if they are the ones posting it all online and eileen is staying quiet.. if eileen was abusive putting videos online is the last thing you would want to do it would cause more shit.

[@cherylbritt7227]

Craving that “moral support” 🤔🤔🤔🤔 I think both of you are great in your own right. Sometimes it’s necessary for your own well being to admit your shortcomings and realize when a relationship has ran its course. A couple always needs other people in their life for moral support and such, but when you need others for “moral support” you are really no longer in a marriage. By definition that is NOT a marriage. I feel a codependency where each doesn’t want to let the other go completely for whatever reason. I fear the only way this is going to end up is with someone hurt. I mean what’s going to happen when you eventually fall in love with the person you’re seeing on the side? Eventually the more you open yourself up to new experiences and new people it is inevitable. That’s why monogamy is essential in an actual marriage. Unless you live in a country where you can marry as many people as you want and keep adding to your harem

[@elainesiongco8357]

I also think this is codependency.

[@Zaraahmadi183]

How can you be so in “love” and is willing to be in a open relationship 🤔

[@elizabethbalan4853]

It sounds like you both just need more friends. It doesn’t have to be romantic at all. I’m sorry, this made me sad.

[@marie-louisedekort9360]

Don’t call it a marriage.

[@Poseidonblue123]

It’s not a marriage. A marriage is not open. A relationship can be… but not everybody shared my opinion till now 🎉

[@amazonionavalon8252]

Marriage isn't a 'one size fits all' system though 💕

[@kerlanayamesem4905]

This is disappointing

[@carinaclarosgoncales9519]

Seems marriage ended up into a friendship but no one seems to admit once there is a Channel behind.

[@user-is7wy8nn1p]

I don’t really understand what the point of marriage is when you look to other people for “moral support” or something else. If you cannot support each other in different areas and one person is not enough for you, then what is the point of being in a relationship? But that's your business.

[@ByeByeBelly]

You definitely shouldn't need to outsource emotional support

[@konpeitosama]

There is no such thing as an open marriage, lol. What a ridiculous and idiotic concept.

[@veerahmbles]

My ex-husband and I tried the open relationship option before we divorced. It doesn't work because inevitably there is always one person who is more willing than the other. In my case, it was me. My ex-husband and I were the same age and I got together with an older man. My ex-husband ended up being jealous would blow up my phone when I was out on a date. In this case, you can see that Eileen is not 100% on-board and if you aren't careful, you'll lose sight of the marriage that you're in now. I am with the older man that I dated and we've been together for 7 years now. I am just saying that casual sex never works because your spouse will be jealous and the person that you're sleeping with/dating may catch feelings. Good luck.

[@arellytran]

I think you didn’t have to share this but I understand why you did it. It’s hard not give an opinion though. Your partner should be able to give you that emotional support and if they can’t, what is the purpose? Maybe you have more things you need to deal with on your own Julia. Not to rain on age gap couples but this is exactly why they don’t really work. You are both in different stages in life and have different wants and needs. It’s okay to love someone but it doesn’t mean it’s going to work. Best of luck.

[@melissa-Sabatino-Threet]

Please, Please transition into a close friendship relationship instead of an open marriage. It may seem fun and exciting now but I promise, it will be the complete demise of anything you two have left. This isn’t sustainable for a couple that has lived a monogamous marriage from the get go. I can truly see the pain in Eileen’s eyes and eventually, this open marriage will tear her soul completely apart. Julia, you may eventually find another partner that you want to have kids with ,that’s younger or someone more social with more energy that can keep up with you. What happens to Elieen then? You will shatter her heart into a million pieces! Eileen sadly ,loves you enough to do this because she doesn’t want lose you. You need to love her enough to end the marriage so you guys can remain close. Love y’all both! ❤

[@kellyp5454]

Not her trying to justify what she’s doing isn’t wrong 😂 just let this woman retire in peace and move on with your life! You wanted an older woman and now you want to run around with younger women. This girl just want someone who she can mentally, physically and emotionally control! You could also see how Julia was blushing in the making of that therapy music video and it had me like hmmm. Now just to see this video is funny

[@myg7380]

She’s dating a much older man according to the internet….

[@kellyp5454]

@@myg7380 ohhh she’s something else! Ahh that’s why she mentioned she’s now fluid 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@milagrosgranados1316]

I agree with you.

[@bl0odtea]

@@hayleykiyokoisbae1776people don’t choose to fall out of love with people

[@Tomas-major]

Step one to the divorce papers, which I probably already filed.

[@onemorecatplease710]

I don’t understand why even be married- its not necessary

[@laquishawoods2644]

I could tell there’s probably gonna be a divorce video one day

[@riverbonilla8108]

As someone who is bisexual and who is currently in a 30 year age gap relationship with a man, I mirror such a similar experience! We love each other so much, and, after 4 years it feels more like family at times and I find myself longing for another kind of connection. But we are so bonded. We’ve considered this option but haven’t acted on it yet, though we both know the option is there and talk about it. On that note. I am attracted to Julia and Eileen through these videos for different reasons ❤

[@paulazzioska3753]

This is narc area hell nah

[@shy6943]

Will you eventually 'close' the open marriage? What are your thoughts on that?

[@amazonionavalon8252]

Good question!

[@jacquelinevillarreal657]

Of course only you and Eileen know how your relationship works, but I feel Eileen it’s not fulfilling you and that’s why you have to look elsewhere, but at the same time, you don’t want to desert Eileen… If you guys are happy, then I am happy for you two… ✨💖✨

[@sierrahudson2396]

Love yall!! Thank you for sharing !!

[@user-vq7bb5ll9o]

the way eileen looks at her in this video is too scary….somethings eerie about it

[@esnutaliah]

J is Histrionic. No relationship was ever going to be enough because those attachment wounds and trauma which cause the depression, anxiety, suicide, and addiction to attention cannot be cured by another person. There’s no way to use others to heal ourselves.

[@fabianacandido10]

If it works for you (and it seems like it does), than that’s all that matters. You both seem happier and your relationship looks lighter to me. Glad to see you like that! 😊 and Julia I LOVE this eye make up you have on

[@SidleFan08]

I think this is just an excuse - I think Julia needs out ASAP.. this should just end. The relationship ended years ago why drag it out. My wife & I have been together 10 yrs - during Covid we never had any of the issues you’re claiming many couples had during Covid - we are closer then ever - we WANT to be with each other - we have an AMAZING communication aspect of our relationship which is huge in a relationship we pride ourselves on how strong our communication is. I’m grateful for her every single day that we have such a strong relationship- we text 24/7 through work shifts, we spend all our time together outside of work etc. she’s incredible. And this relationship isn’t love .. this video is awkward! You can tell they aren’t in it anymore. Awkward - Eileen saying “yeah yeah” a ton .. Julia was incredibly awkward towards Eileen etc! Please guys stop dragging it out. Rooting for you to find peace & happiness Julia.

[@SidleFan08]

Also Eileen being like “you’re like family” dude she’s your damn wife of corse she’s family! I agree with others - I don’t know why Eileen married Julia they are 2 very completely different people with different lifestyles. Wtf did you expect!! I think Eileen is the reason for Julia’s anxiety / depression 😢

[@amazonionavalon8252]

Not taking away from the seriousness here, but I felt I had to add I think Eileen 'yeah yeahs' her way through EVERY video they make together, and probably during much of 'real life' as well, in the nicest possible way !

[@myopinionisirrelevantbut]

i admire your vulnerability and honesty with your audience. i can’t imagine how rough this has been for you, especially in such a small home. i hope that you continue to choose yourself first, and continue down the path that makes you happy despite what the net-izens comment or say. i imagine it would be hard going through something this big in such a small space, i hope that being able to spend some time away and focusing on yourself and your work has been helpful in your journey. sending you all the love, julia! 🫶🏻

[@xo6697]

I don't understand how Eileen cant handle Ur emotions and baggage but is willing to date other women and taking on their shit. Like I'm trying to understand, it's not my relationship however u guys r the ones that chose to open up about it. Why r u married then? It just seems pointless now.

[@alexandrarocha4519]

PLEASE LEAVE HER JULIA You can still be friends but u deserve so much better!!

[@ghoste_girll]

These are all just excuses to not break up and excuse cheating. If the love is not there anymore, just go your own ways.

[@ashleylancaster9014]

How do you both agree to see other people thinking it will fix your problems.

[@Poseidonblue123]

It doesn’t fix the problems. I’m worried it’s gonna be much worse. A open relationship/marriage works when you are exploring from the start and both completely agree. Not to save a broken relationship/marriage 😅

[@sherilynx]

Eileen looks sad

[@amazonionavalon8252]

I thought she was just looking at Julia when she said something significant, just to be absolutely sure they're on the same page with this new idea ❤

[@hrtb8729]

My heart breaks... like i can see its the beginning of the end.

[@ThinkFluorecent]

This is the first video for a long time were I feel calm and grounded watching you two because your energy is so honest, grounded and loving. You both seem worlds happier. I'm so happy for you two. Well done for being brave enough to make this step. I have been practicing polyamory for some years now, and it feels so much better than trying to force things. Love can handle complexity.

[@crvenalee]

Sis, this is falling appart. Love is not complex, it's simple.

[@oofihavenousernameideas2451]

This sounds sad :( you both are clearly different and open relationship doesn’t sound like the probable solution imo.. i have tried this in the past with an ex (not an age gap relationship though) and it didn’t work. Obviously everyone is different but just be careful. The fact that y’all are doing this BECAUSE you have problems and not because you genuinely want to explore is a red flag. Open relationships are cool if they’re not a bandaid for relationship/marriage issues.

[@FiTrill]

Ngl, I'm as confused by "moral support lacking" as Eileen. She may not be bringing in the $$$ but we've seen her be your #1 cheerleader in creative endeavors ... especially regarding your music career.

[@UNDERTHESH33TS]

Eileen has failed on more than one occasion to remember the names to Julia’s songs…

[@FiTrill]

When you decide to marry a senior forgetfulness shouldn't be a reason to seek some d.

[@katecarbonara1230]

@@FiTrillyup!

[@saalihfirfirey1180]

When you open your relationship next thing is break up 😮

[@joselinm.1593]

I don't think Eileen was upset. She seemed more apathetic to me. Like, being okay with Julia seeking moral and emotional support elsewhere rather than working on providing that herself. After what we've learned, it seems like Eileen just doesn't want her financial safety net gone, so she's agreed to this rather than just leave, which just unfair.

[@jennytimelord9689]

I got into an age gap relationship. I always found Eileen finding love so late in life inspiring, because I was 33 and very alone. I had dated women who would not be monogamous with me, I did not feel like I deserved that respect. So when j saw you loving her and only her, despite her age, I had hope I'd find someone one day. I did! She's great. But we do struggle because of the age difference, and seeing you two not be enough for each other even emotionally (sexually was my worry....) it does break my heart and dash my hopes. I pray my wife doesn't decide she needs more than me. I do understand Eileen's hormones and things, as my mom hit menopause at 45. I'm 34 now and I can feel the difference in our hormones. Eileen, you're a lovely person and even though relationships are hard, I want you to know, you are enough!💜 sometimes people, especially with depression, PTSD, anxiety, and so on need more support than one person can give them. My wife has all 3. You're enough, and I hope you're not tolerating more than you'd prefer. Blessed be, both of you. Julia, I hope you just remember, your time on earth with Eileen is limited. I hope you never have any regrets

[@OrlaAfikiruweh]

Yes DEFINITELY!! Her time with Eileen is, I hope years down the line she doesn't regret it!❤

[@rxpunzi]

I just want to say that 33 is not old at all in fact you're young still. You didn't have to worry fr.

[@Kamehalani]

Julia, I love you immensely if this makes you happy then I am happy for you! 💜

[@alexisstevens1996]

God I can’t stand to look at Eileen

[@SarahFinds]

I know it’s like a witch that’s controlling the princess…and Eileen takes advantage of Julia’s insecurities repulsive..when Julia said is correct to say fancy in America and Eileen said no and started down talking and laughing I was like wtf we do saying fancy and also moral support …

[@miglegrakavinaite9954]

Eileen need stop that circus and live happy after with some who understand her,or better alone…can’t look at her pain

[@farahkhaddour-bp2gq]

You are experiencing the negative consequences of the big age gap between you, and this is something expected from the beginning

[@brookemoreland1019]

It’s beautiful how open and honest you both are. Sending all the love and support. Thank you for being so vulnerable. 🥺🫶🏽

[@amazonionavalon8252]

They must both feel ultra vulnerable after making this milestone statement 💕

[@CEB731]

Vulnerable? Not sure if that's the right word?

[@isthatyoursandwich]

I feel for Eileen. If she is not fulfilling your needs why stay with her. She deserves better. This is not going to end well for anyone. Work on yourself instead of dating other people.

[@daisymay9203]

Well this is just toxic, the age gap isn’t an issue it’s just one part of the party Julia is greedy. Don’t get married if ur not going to commit.

[@vickimariajohnson3163]

Its very me me and i julia 😮 what about eileen!

[@genisical95]

I see Eileen so different now after knowing the truth. She just seems so insincere and looking for a retirement plan. Feel bad for Julia.