Our Top 10 Favorite LUNA Features

In this video, we’re diving into the top 10 features of LUNA, the powerful DAW that’s now free for both Mac and Windows users. LUNA includes built-in tape machines like Oxide, Studer, and Ampex, the punchy API Console emulation, and Neve Summing for warm mixes. Enjoy advanced exporting options, seamless control surface compatibility, and the versatile Shape plugin. Plus, LUNA integrates perfectly with Apollo interfaces for near-zero latency monitoring. Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more content from Universal Audio!
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
00:08 - Free
00:33 - Tape Machines
01:29 - API Console
02:43 - Built-in Summing
03:29 - Preset Browser
04:25 - Sidechaining
05:41 - Shape
07:10 - Control Surface Compatibility
07:20 - Advanced Export Options
07:49 - Better with Apollo
Learn more about the LUNA:
www.uaudio.com/luna.html
Credits:
Ryan Wright “Bleed For You”
Learn more: @ryanwrightmusic

[@ToddUrban]

Killer Drew. It’s great to see how far LUNA has come. I love the look and workflow.

[@JordonBeal]

We really need “audio suite,’ bounce in place/commit, external inserts, more track colors, folders, vcas, being able to record from one audio track or bus to another audio track without needed virtual channels, and a few other things. I love Luna, but I can’t move away from PT yet without those, and that seems to be the big thing holding back a few other producers/mix engineers I know.

[@galgogergo]

+ tempo detection on already recorded wavs

[@lashonbrown1708]

Can we please get ARA support and keyboard shortcuts. I would literally be in heaven!

[@esmoroglu]

I started and continus since 2020 with LUNA. Next wishes: Hardware insert and EZDrummer multi out please.👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼

[@rickybrenay6249]

Came here to same the same thing!!!

[@steveg219]

Me three

[@yikelu]

LUNA for Windows is huge! I'm a Mac user, but I know how requested Windows has been! Congrats to the team.

[@UniversalAudio]

Thanks!!

[@mariooomusic1]

Been enjoying Luna. The main things I’d like to see for my workflow is traditional audio comping, VST support for Mac. Love seeing Luna grow

LUNA has been my DAW of choice since day one (it was released close to the time I bought an Arrow), and it is great to see how many good things are added constantly! Thank you for this list of top features.

[@98INST]

first time opening it up was a bit confusing, but did not really to me long to navigate around the controls, loved it instantly

[@Pushing_Pixels]

The UI looks a bit more beginner friendly and modern than the old DAW I have, that I've been procrastinating about starting to learn for almost a year. Of course, if I learn on LUNA, now that it's free on Windows, it means I'll probably get an Apollo interface, for the integration, when I can afford to get more serious (currently have a Volt 476p). Well played.

[@tabitharasaproject]

LOVE this video! Keep em coming! My FAVE feature is tape summing. I use both the API and the Neve. I cannot mix without those sweet sweet summing sounds!!!

[@chrisharbin623]

Thanks for this Drew. The only thing for me (and I've said this on the forum) is MCU doesn't always work here. I don't have my Faderport hooked up right now, but my Arturia Keylab won't recognize any faders/knobs or transport. Of course the keys work. I also wanted to add that it's nice to see the built in stuff in a good example (I like this song). I think that is something people haven't really understood about Luna. Anyways, as usual, well done.....short sweet and direct which isn't always the case on youtube.

[@juancarlosmontemayorjr2641]

Absolutely Love Luna!! I would love a built in instrument Tuner. And SSL Console Emulation.😏

[@tomrastikis4617]

I love Luna. It works great for my projects!

[@soypalmapro]

Este programa es lo mejor en la actualidad, solo necesita un poco más de dedicación al funcionamiento del mismo en Windows! Felicidades UAD gran trabajo!

[@stamecec2003]

luna is my favorite daw man thanks for the tips

[@UniversalAudio]

You're welcome!! And we're glad you're enjoying LUNA!

[@davidr1620]

Luna is awesome. Absolutely love Shape. Very intuitive. But damn!!! Let’s get the multi out function going! Mixing percussion and drum samples is such a pain without that feature. I know it’s complex, but it would make my life so much easier.

[@3lackwoodmusic]

Didn’t know shape had drums. Nice!

[@UniversalAudio]

Indeed, that's why I wanted to showcase them!! So many people don't know they're there and they sound REALLY good!

[@stephencross3714]

Hi U.A. Luna is amazing, what i would love to see is an easy way to convert or move midi straight into an audio track. Maybe a drag & drop, automatic conversion to wav form in an audio track

[@ivanjomusic]

Please make an SSL extension for luna 🙏🏼

I'm loving Luna, thank you for releasing it for Windows, I would really like features like audio normalization at Peak and RMS levels and also if the channel input could be from other channels and not just physical inputs, that would be perfect. Thank you very much!

[@Billy_bSLAYER]

Audio input can be from other sources inside of LUNA. I print my NeuralDSP amp Sim and the DI on every take. If you would like assistance let me know and we can talk at the UADforum.

[@makemusicnotwar3858]

Love Luna, love UA hardware and software and love you Drew! Can’t wait for Multi-out software instruments and Logic style comping so I don’t have to keep going back to Logic. Keep going gang…I would love to live in Luna full time!!

[@citytonightproductions]

Well said, it’s been far too long for them to implement these. Until then, Logic is still my primary daw.

[@srwaite7]

You da man, Drew! Thanks for all you do! 👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@unclescott8792]

Cool video My main wish is a separate MIDI Editor window In fact - that is the ONLY thing keeping me from using Luna for writing on a constant basis (My humble 2¢)

[@PeachEater81]

Luna is great and fun to use

[@fidore_PJ]

Please add ARA2 for LUNA, which makes us faster workflow for editing, thanks

[@galgogergo]

+1 😊

[@therickyrod]

Ok…2nd fave feature…consistent updates! 👊🏽

[@TheSkinnyshowATL]

Love Luna- Left pro tools and went to studio one and now Luna. I am holding off buying the new SSL UC1 or the Softube Console1 MK3 hoping you guys drop some sort of plug in daw controller!!!

[@Billy_bSLAYER]

I guessed all of these, just waiting on that very requested feature.... "multi-out" and midi-learn/expanded capabilities.

[@user-ms8yj8if1m]

Remote control app of Luna iPhone or iPad what I need !!!

[@aubreymcgee8230]

Booting from an external ssd with an Apollo on Apple Silicon MacOS would save us in many situations. Time and money.

[@InspelaRecords]

Luna needs a timestretching sampler and drum machine. It already has great features for slicing beats but needs more. Also, the Neve Summing Engine (which you can demo natively) needs an Apollo interface to be able to buy it. That needs to change now as it seems unfair. You should be able to purchase it without having to own an Apollo.

[@Tomtamo1]

Great job Drew!!! I love Luna, but man do I need multi-out VIs!!!!!!!

[@UniversalAudio]

Indeed, top 5 request for sure!

[@athonygraham8353]

@@UniversalAudio you've been saying that for years and never deliver

[@davidr1620]

@@athonygraham8353apparently it’s one of the most complex - if not most complex feature to implement of the most requested ones. I don’t want to switch to Logic because I love Luna so much. But I may have to.

[@athonygraham8353]

@@davidr1620 Who told you that? It really isn't that complex. It's been a basic feature in proper DAWs for many, many years.

[@ian20n]

Hi guys. Nice video. Love it. I'm new using Luna. Recently I imported a session of 40 tracks in wave format. But my session in WAV format is jumping within bars when played in LUNA. What do you think it may be? Thank you

[@wadewilliams1892]

Classic style tracking - beautiful interface - great sound.. for real recording heads

[@sdanis]

Great video! Any plans to add inserts to run external hardware in real-time?

[@UniversalAudio]

No news to share at this time, but it is a highly requested feature for sure.

[@TheSolarlion]

LUNA is awesome. I'm a big fan of the layout, great features, and overall usage. However.. still waiting for receiving multi outs and ARA integration which I have been requesting since LUNA's inception. Unfortunately I've had move to another platform until these features are added. I just noticed someone else just posted the same thing so it's pretty obvious to users.

[@S.O.L_Soundworks]

Thank you for Windows version!!! 🤤

[@98INST]

Brooooo✊️✊️🇿🇦

[@moskva-kassiopeya]

It’s a huge bummer the Neve summing extension is not available for purchase without hardware interface. Even though it’s perfectly working during the demo period. Guys, you should make it available for everybody, it’s a big selling point for the Luna.

[@rogernewport4196]

I'd love to see Logic style quick comping for audio in Luna.

[@UniversalAudio]

Yup!! It's for sure a top 5 user request. be sure to add your voice using the Feedback button

[@loganbuck17]

@@UniversalAudio the midi window needs a lot of help too, as of now I just mix in LUNA

[@athuairush235]

Is Neve & SSL Console coming to LUNA? Thanks!

[@eduardoreginaldo3000]

What are the differences between Luna (Free) and Luna Pro? I already have the Studer, Oxide and Ampex plugins and not to mention the API 2500 compressor so should I go for the free version? Or does the Pro version allow you to work natively ie without your apollo?

[@UniversalAudio]

LUNA Pro Bundle is a bundle of plugins and Extensions. Operationally, there is only one version of LUNA and it doesn't need an Apollo to work.

[@JuanJacinto]

I use Logic and would LOVE to switch, but I can't because I'm too used to the key commands. Until this changes, I won't be able to make the switch. Another key feature that would be incredibly helpful is the ability to create folders, so we can easily fold or unfold multiple tracks at once for better viewing.

[@directed6924]

Would be great to use Shape in other DAWs.

[@darkmaer]

We need the option to be able to purchase the Neve summing for those of us that don’t own an Apollo interface.

[@RobsonPellegrini]

Totally agree with you, but it’s impossibile for licensing problems.

[@darkmaer]

@@RobsonPellegrini oh I know that’s the reason but obviously they can do something. I shouldn’t be able to demo it. If I’m able to demo it then they can give it to me if they can’t give it to me don’t let me demo it. Should’ve been a warning sign that says sorry you can’t demo this, unless you have an Apollo interface.

[@MrJuanchernandez]

Where did the MIDI of the live drums come from? Was that programmed by hand, or converted?

[@UniversalAudio]

I just did it by hand. 👍

[@trespacerooh]

I've been using Luna as my main daw since it was released. only thing i feel like i am missing is a melodyne, flex pitch styled editor built in. please make that

[@johntwigg7650]

Great! What can you tell me about the time compensated hardware inserts, the multi Instrument outs and ARA2 integration?

[@UniversalAudio]

We never talk about future features or products. We prefer to announce when you can use or buy them!

[@chizzulwinduh1941]

@@UniversalAudio So LUNA doesn't have these already?! But you're calling it a DAW! Is there any DAW out there in the world that doesn't have time comped Hardware inserts? I can't even use my UA 1176 and LA2A as hardware inserts in UA's own product?

[@juanijuanpa]

@johntwigg 7650. You are rude but 1000% agree with you WI nedd folder tracks, miltiout on instruments different options for piano rooll ect I love luna that's why I ask for things.

[@robfulco4739]

Nothing, because you aren't more important than everyone else.

[@robfulco4739]

@@chizzulwinduh1941 Those other DAWs out there, you pay for too. So, there is that.

[@87degreespodcast]

Any plans of making the Ampex a native plugin?

[@UniversalAudio]

Sorry, we can't comment on any future developments or releases. We appreciate your interest though and encourage you to stay tuned.

[@vroge3275]

Will shaper get new sounds added in the years ahead? It's a super instrument, the sound quality is top notch.

[@UniversalAudio]

No news to share at this time, but we're glad you're enjoying!! Be sure to submit Feedback inside LUNA.

[@vroge3275]

@@UniversalAudio You should get that "No news to share at this time" done up on T-Shirts :) It's legendary :) :)

[@UniversalAudio]

👊🏻

[@JohnLloydDavis]

I've been a Luna user since almost day one. There's a lot to like but there's a long way it can go, please listen to the users and be lead by them instead of trying to lead. I notice that out of 10 Top features, only 1 is free and the other 9 need you to put your hand in your pocket :/ I want the ability to have a midi drum kit (like ML Drums or GGD in Kontakt) and separate it out to individual kit piece channels like Logic does. I would also like the option to bounce a track in place rather than go the 'open a new channel and route your track into it etc' as it would be such a time saver for midi parts.

[@srwaite7]

Drew listens to users every day, bro. We just need to be patient 👍🏻🖖🏻

[@Bookah_wpmg]

We need printing audio fx in luna in the next update or something like audio suite in protools.

[@UniversalAudio]

For now, you can use the Mixdown feature and then just drag the file back in.

[@mmancini]

On the preset browser, will 3rd party plugins show up as well?

[@UniversalAudio]

Yes, your saved presets for that plug will. Most 3rd party plugins have their own preset browser where their factory presets etc though.

[@TheWeazel01]

There are so many features LUNA doesn't have I don't even know where to start. I'm actually surprised this DAW is already out for a couple of years. All the summing stuff is cool, but not having a basic hardware insert is just insane to me.

[@UniversalAudio]

If you look at the development timelines of various DAWs, LUNA is actually being developed faster than any of them.

[@TheWeazel01]

@@UniversalAudio That could be, but in those days you didn't have a lot of other daw's that could do a whole lot more. The only reason people would use LUNA now, is because it plays nice with their UAD stuff, which is of course the goal; getting people into the eco system. All good of course. It just baffles me that after years this DAW can do so little, not something I woukd have expected from a company like yours.

[@Sereck]

Again why we miss Luna Office Hours Drew ha

[@UniversalAudio]

Yeah, me too!!! Maybe someday we'll get it going again. 🤞

[@vi4utube]

Is it normal we can't use UAD plugins in mix mode ? The plugins disappeared from the list of the available plugins in the insert section.

[@UniversalAudio]

No, def not normal. Trash the plugins.json file in Library/appsupport/ua. This will force a rescan.

[@vi4utube]

@@UniversalAudio Thanks for the answer. It works !

[@UniversalAudio]

Excellent! Enjoy.

[@BudPhillipsMusic]

Multi out for superior drummer ?

[@jacquilove1011]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@stamecec2003]

Can you make a video showing how to print a track I have a focusrite but I don't know how to do it please

[@UniversalAudio]

Do you mean render a track with processing to a new one? You'll use the Mixdown feature, and then drag the file back in.

[@stamecec2003]

@@UniversalAudio yes render a track with processing to a new one

[@drillhippy5120]

Love the audio workflow and the sound. The midi though doesn’t cut it. I’m a songwriter that needs to quickly produce demos at home. I’ve played with luna from day one but maybe I have to accept it is not for people like me. Shame, as it has much going for it.

[@eduardoreginaldo3000]

Personally I see Luna as a mixing tool rather than a one-stop shop that does everything. I'm looking to take a pre-worked out arrangement and mix it in Luna.

[@GaryD6120]

I make my living as a songwriter and use Luna for everything at the creative level. I can produce anything I want as quick;y as I can create and play it. What else do you need ?

[@Tooblind77]

what up hell yeah

[@tothesoil7297]

multi outs for stuff like AD2?

[@davidr1620]

My guess is they probably receive this request hundreds of times a day. But unfortunately, it’s been something they’ve been working on for a very long time and so far no dice.

[@letzercartagena7465]

Hardware insert Pleaseeee 🙏🙏

[@MastaGOfficial]

I need real time monitor feature for windows version!

[@UniversalAudio]

We have this now with an Apollo, just like on the Mac.

[@neb_Oripahs]

Can we use all of our LUNA plugins and hardware on both PC and Mac without buying new licenses.

[@UniversalAudio]

Yes.

[@paulocosta3007]

Hey! :) What would be the estimated latency using an apollo twin x usb with this hardware? CPU: Intel Core i5-11400H RAM: 8GB Storage: 512GB SSD GPU: NVIDIA RTX 3060 Operating System: Windows 10 Is the 3 m latency worth the mac upgrade? Thanks

[@UniversalAudio]

When direct monitoring through Console, it's 1.1ms @96. This is the beauty of Apollo.

[@paulocosta3007]

@@UniversalAudio Thank you for the fast reply! Now this is costumer service! Cool! So, if im recording a vocal overdub over, lets say, an acoustic guitar in the luna daw, both tracks will be overlayed perfectly with 1.1ms latency? So why all the fuss about thunderbolt 3(2/3ms) vs usb (5/10 ms) that people rival so much about? Oh, and is it running smoothly on windows nowadays? Ive read some people had some problems, but then again time as passed and you people are rather brilliant... Ive got my mind set on one of those apollo x either way. Just wanted to make sure that the mac was better thanks to thunderbolt 3. Ps: Shootout to "the time preservation society" youtube channel. He told me to speak with you guys directly

[@UniversalAudio]

@@paulocosta3007 It's in BETA, so there are expected to be issues. That's what BETAs are for! :) Many people are very latency sensitive, so every ms counts.

[@paulocosta3007]

​@@UniversalAudio Yeah! Beta...Understandable :) Haha I think people are more latency sensitive when they read about it HAHAHA Anyway, i gave it some thought, and ive decided to go with a Mac so that i dont catch the computer fans with condenser mics. :) Never had one... Fresh start. But yeah, going for that Apollo!

[@grantclaytor8249]

Where’d u get that shirt lol I want one

[@PabloVacaRodriguez]

we need hardware inserts!

[@axxojaxx2510]

Doesn't run stabile on my system so i uninstalled it. Gonna check it out again in the future.

[@enricopellegrino6122]

There's a lot of things that need to be added before you can work on them professionally

[@UniversalAudio]

We're always working hard to improve LUNA but LOTS of people are using LUNA for pro work now.

[@GaryD6120]

Really ? Guess I have been in the wrong job for 45 years. Thanks for you valuable input.

[@enricopellegrino6122]

@@UniversalAudio I am referring mainly to the version for Windows ... the management of the external hardware is cumbersome but above all with a serious lack of latency compensation, ara 2 for me is very important and speeds up the work, the multi midi for the management of a drum in separate tracks, the management of the midi is very minimalist, these are just a few things that at least for me are very important ... surely it will become an excellent daw but for the moment in my opinion it must increase many things .....

[@enricopellegrino6122]

@@GaryD6120 If for you these things are not important to me and for millions who use other daw they are ....I am referring mainly to the version for Windows ... the management of the external hardware is cumbersome but above all with a serious lack of latency compensation, ara 2 for me is very important and speeds up the work, the multi midi for the management of a drum in separate tracks, the management of the midi is very minimalist, these are just a few things that at least for me are very important ... surely it will become an excellent daw but for the moment in my opinion it must increase many things .....

[@joshuaschmidt2382]

Is half speed playback coming soon? Oh, I forgot…”we don’t comment on things Luna doesn’t have.” I love Luna but it is still missing a few key fundamental features. You still can’t solo a channel that has a side chain plugin enabled. Recording in Luna is awesome! The Unison slot and recording fx slots are time, ram and headache savers! You can literally record a finished to near finished song! Please work to make this program whole?

[@LuizCarlosJesusdosSantos]

Very good sound but unfortunately for music production it is still weak. The day it has all the features of Pro Tools, it will be the best DAW on the planet!

[@romulomc]

Cubase

[@KenFoxmusic]

DUAL MONO PLEASSSSSSSEEEEEE

[@realbosstakea]

Only thing I dont like about it is I can't drag my vocals from garageband into luna, I want to record in garageband and mix/engineer in Luna... I have to like drag each wav into desktop and from there put it into Luna, but then I have to retime all of my wav tracks, I wish I can just drag and drop my vocals from garageband into luna without hastle

[@elitehulk431]

Uad apollo twin x thunderbolt do not work with fl studio on mac. You can't set latency in fl, also there is problem with loading plugins because of pop up, that other uad plugins have another buffet size.. Im dissapointed

[@UniversalAudio]

Sorry to hear you're having issues. Be sure to get a ticket open with Support, they'll have things for you to try. Go to help.uaudio.com, click on the Support bot icon in the lower right corner and type “create ticket”

[@tadeui2]

Anyone having issues to download LUNA for WIN 11? The dowload button is always coming back when the download finishes, and never get installed! UAD support doesn't answer too!

[@UniversalAudio]

What is your ticket #? Happy to look into it for you.

[@tadeui2]

@@UniversalAudio Unfortunately i've sent the request support in the UA connect app, so i don't have it 😥

[@UniversalAudio]

Sorry, that's not UA Customer Care. That's just for sharing your thoughts and Feedback. You want to open a ticket. Go to help.uaudio.com, click on the Support bot icon in the lower right corner and type “create ticket” Post the # here and I'll direct it to the right agent.

[@citytonightproductions]

Cmon UA, you need to prioritize a hardware insert plugin for us hybrid mixers. Until then I won’t ever considerLuna as my DAW. It’s ridiculous already how long it’s taken. And comp recording is also one feature you’re way behind on.

[@UniversalAudio]

Yup!! Two of the highest requested features for sure! We hear you!

[@athonygraham8353]

@@UniversalAudio How many years have you been trotting out that disingenuous response and never, ever delivering it? UA can't seriously call LUNA a DAW without hardware inserts, the most basic requirement of any DAW. Just be honest, that's what people want.

[@camimahieu]

Honestly, not going to cut the mustard. Slate VCCs etc and Waves NLSs does the job. Built in summing? Like HEAT?

[@camimahieu]

​@@davidmarais1048your fad is not a DAW.

[@mikebooth9619]

Are 3rd party plugins compatible?

[@UniversalAudio]

Yes!! All AU on Mac and VST3 on Windows.

[@mikebooth9619]

@@UniversalAudio Thanks. VST3s also on Macs? I'm currently using VST3 plugins (mostly) with Ableton Live.

[@UniversalAudio]

No, AU for now, but that may change, stay tuned.

[@enricopellegrino6122]

I already have all the luna plugins except api pre, api sum and atr 102.... can you explain to me why I should buy everything again? just to have the image of an analog mixer on the monitor..... this thing is not correct... you should give the possibility to purchase only the missing plugins and the api extensions should be included in the vision plugin since it is the same identical plugin...this thing will never happen because you play on people's stupidity...

[@ApexArtistX]

Please add the option to activate with license on PC workstation .. cloud activation only for UADx sucks .. so no internet no plugin ? Some studios run without internet.. UAD please change your policy of cloud activation only for native plugins and don’t tell me to buy ilok usb

[@therickyrod]

My fave feature is the community driven updates !

[@iliravdyli4109]

I wish you would focus more on the pianoroll. 4 years wothout a update… 😢

[@dannyboycinco]

the only thing i see LUNA being good for right now is to re-route the outputs of your actual DAW into LUNA so you can take advantage of their Neve/API summing. LUNA is still lacking WAY TOO MANY features for me to abandon Studio One

[@UniversalAudio]

Awesome! Glad you're enjoying LUNA's summing! Lots of people use multiple DAWs these days, no need to just use one!

[@dannyboycinco]

@@UniversalAudio True, i just wish you allowed us to use the Neve and API summing as a plugin directly into our DAW. This re-routing situation is a bit annoying

[@sambemixing2100]

Language 😅😅 lol but where is the one teaching how to record in it, still haven't figured it out

[@UniversalAudio]

Here you go!! www.uaudio.com/blog/luna-basics/

[@NotDayWalker]

not for me! too much headache with all that nonsense. end of the its a plugin saturation. not really tape just becasue the grpahics show a tape

[@ernestothompson1834]

Harrison Mixbus 32c 10 suena mil veces mejor que luna.

[@amrsalahmahmoud3034]

When Luna become a pay Daw I can start to be interested in it, till now it’s not a real Daw

[@chizzulwinduh1941]

Hang on Drew, you're calling LUNA a DAW now? LOL. It's got a very long way to go before you can call it a DAW buddy, but good luck. Don't buy into this ecosphere without checking out the fundamental shortcomings of LUNA, if you believe it can compete with even the least of other DAWs.

[@robhagle]

Works for me 🤷

[@98INST]

it is a full on legit DAW, been loving it

[@bonzo230]

Plenty capable if you know how to engineer. Nice work UA!

[@chizzulwinduh1941]

@@bonzo230 Do you have a list of mixing credits I can look at?

[@tkelong3569]

Great DAW that is a bLaSt to work with and sounds better than any other DAW out there. Are there improvements to be made? Uh yeah, but can you name a single DAW that doesn’t have any room for improvements? As a Win 11 user I’m nothing less than totally psyched to finally have access.

[@robfulco4739]

Ok, really unprofessional playing a track with cuss words in it. I am not above swearing, but it is tacky in a professional sales video.

[@athonygraham8353]

grow up.

[@robfulco4739]

@@athonygraham8353 Uh...growing up would be to NOT call out unprofessionalism?

[@athonygraham8353]

@@robfulco4739 It's not unprofessional though, it's just another thing you don't like or want, just your opinion. UAD are absolutely professional in their marketing, look at this LUNA garbage that all the simps like you are hoovering up and buying into. It's worked on you and them right?