Our Toyota’s Engine Has a Serious Problem & Expensive Problem | Now What? Baby Yota Ep.8

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@jdfleetguy28
@jdfleetguy28 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video from Kase and Tommy ! Always look forward to these guys on Saturday mornings.
@0cujo0
@0cujo0 3 жыл бұрын
Knock knock... Who’s there? Cylinder Three :-(
@dposcuro
@dposcuro 3 жыл бұрын
Well, look on the bright side! At least it wasn't Rodney.
@Searchman212
@Searchman212 3 жыл бұрын
So as crappy as it is for them, it helps the community learn things to look out for. TFL has the "money" that commoners may not have. Having to spend $3,000 plus on a single repair would kill some people.
@theylied1776
@theylied1776 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't spend $3k for the repair. They Traded the mechanic a vehicle for the repair. Plus, the mechanic paid TFL $1k.
@shaiq-nbaiq1826
@shaiq-nbaiq1826 3 жыл бұрын
@@theylied1776 they should use that 1k for new tires 🤣
@TFLclassics
@TFLclassics 3 жыл бұрын
@@theylied1776 The repair was quoted as $3.5K, and that’s what the value of the trade was
@stevenheit964
@stevenheit964 3 жыл бұрын
3.5 k is still cheaper then a new car!
@jedironin380
@jedironin380 3 жыл бұрын
The "upside" to having a small fleet of vehicles, sometimes all you need is a little "horse trading" to come out ahead. :)
@GATORADDAM
@GATORADDAM 3 жыл бұрын
3500 dollars for a valve job on a 4 cylinder?!! Remind me NOT to have any work done in Colorado!
@Tully3674
@Tully3674 3 жыл бұрын
That same job would easily cost $5,000 at an independent mechanic in Los Angeles.
@GATORADDAM
@GATORADDAM 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tully3674 Suddenly I have a reinforced appreciation for living in Florida. My certificated master mechanic said he could do that job for $2,300 and still make great money!
@Walterrinho
@Walterrinho 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tully3674 500/ hour labor lol
@stout_tossme7541
@stout_tossme7541 3 жыл бұрын
I had to have the valves done in my 05 pilot 3 times. It only cost 1200 on the v6.
@GATORADDAM
@GATORADDAM 3 жыл бұрын
@@stout_tossme7541 That's not a great argument. One could say that for 1200 bucks it wasn't done right and that's why it had to be done 3 times!
@dougterhune9364
@dougterhune9364 3 жыл бұрын
Case is in the backround whispering, "it's called a valve job!" "Valve Job!" 😂😂😂😂😂
@vibeandride2984
@vibeandride2984 3 жыл бұрын
I’m thinkin this tacoma needs a black top 4AGE
@hippiebits2071
@hippiebits2071 3 жыл бұрын
I think this truck was fortunate to fall into the hands of people with the means and motivation to have it repaired. Far too few of these still on the road and it's always really nice to see one.
@325xitgrocgetter
@325xitgrocgetter 3 жыл бұрын
Being from MN...which is a road salt state...engine repairs are far easier and probably cheaper than keeping rust at bay. Even with an engine problem, the body and chassis are so clean, it would sell up here quickly.
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 3 жыл бұрын
Try powerwashing every spring and fall(undercarriage)and then every fall coat your underside with fluid film very liberally. I grew up in Chicago and my uncle did the same with used transmission fluid until he switched to fluid film. Worked great. Zero rust
@eman0828
@eman0828 3 жыл бұрын
@@richfarfugnuven6308 I wash my car every two weeks in the winter to keep the road salt from eating away at the metal. I'm in Iowa just a state below from MN.
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 3 жыл бұрын
@@eman0828 make sure you get the underside powerwashed really well.
@eman0828
@eman0828 3 жыл бұрын
@@richfarfugnuven6308 Yeah I do that all the time. Most people miss that.
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 3 жыл бұрын
@@eman0828 I bought an attachment for my powerwasher that slides around under my car and sprays straight up.
@davidbradley1297
@davidbradley1297 3 жыл бұрын
I had my 01 done at 215k and it was only around $1500, and traded it in at 280k
@hawkeye7249
@hawkeye7249 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the same truck new mine had the extended cab , put 140k on it in 13 years ,the longest time I've ever kept a vehicle . the only thing to go wrong on mine was the digital clock quit in the first couple of years , I noticed yours is still working . These are great trucks in my opinion .
@thetalkingboard
@thetalkingboard 3 жыл бұрын
Love the addition of Kase, you guys. He’s polished and takes TFL to the next level.
@jamesgeorge6551
@jamesgeorge6551 3 жыл бұрын
Bucket shim adjustment on pre 2005 models is the reason they have issues, most people *don't know* it's an adjustable valvetrain, and that instead of getting loose, they go tight, and burn the valves. The 1ZZ EF and 2ZZ FE do the same thing. It's usually someone has already put a coil and a plug in it, and it still missfires. I need to set up shop in Colorado, their labor rate has got to be crowding $150/HR.
@kellenford4181
@kellenford4181 2 жыл бұрын
My 2000 Taco 2.4 had the same thing at 198k. Rebuilt with Toyota parts. Still driving at @240k. love this truck.
@kirbycairo
@kirbycairo 3 жыл бұрын
Darn, I wanted to see more of the Rocky
@Offshore1977
@Offshore1977 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@fugitivesesame
@fugitivesesame 3 жыл бұрын
Daihatsu has some other little jeepies too. Such as Terios
@anthonyarrington3740
@anthonyarrington3740 3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@Noice-COW
@Noice-COW 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see there are others
@julien_7535
@julien_7535 3 жыл бұрын
Mee too 😁
@chrispierce6106
@chrispierce6106 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Taco. My 2001 had 340k on it with all original and it still burned rubber. Sadly it was totalled after a head on into an embankment and rollover. But insurance still gave me $7,500 for the truck. Needless to say...I got a newer Taco.
@toddbob55
@toddbob55 3 жыл бұрын
Has the frame starting Rusting on yur cheap Toyota Import?
@howabouthetruth2157
@howabouthetruth2157 Жыл бұрын
@@toddbob55 Mine hasn't......and I bought my 1st gen Tacoma 4x4 back in 2000.
@Fe_lix
@Fe_lix 3 жыл бұрын
3500$ for a valve job ??? Seems a lot to me !
@thejuiceisloose8703
@thejuiceisloose8703 3 жыл бұрын
No one said they are smart. You can buy a new engine for $3500
@donleamon8653
@donleamon8653 3 жыл бұрын
@@thejuiceisloose8703 - a new Toyota crate engine? I’d bet just the short block is more than that if still available.
@shanechepren8119
@shanechepren8119 3 жыл бұрын
@@thejuiceisloose8703 maybe not a brand new one but easily find a rebuilt one with OEM parts.
@toycoma98
@toycoma98 3 жыл бұрын
They replaced the head. But yeah, it just needed valve job which would be way less. They got ripped off.
@Fe_lix
@Fe_lix 3 жыл бұрын
@@toycoma98 They talked about that at the beginning but then said they rebuilt their. Anyway yes mostlikely re-machining the valves would have done it and at worst replacing them. As a nice optional touch being their, re-machining anything necessary on the head could be great but we are still far off à 3500$ bill... Some details on what has been done would be great.
@brianrocco4301
@brianrocco4301 3 жыл бұрын
Wait... WAIT!!! I thought Toyotas were super reliable and went like 500k miles with barely an oil change! Great episode, it shows that ALL vehicles have their issues... Even the all mighty yota.
@danielfish101
@danielfish101 3 жыл бұрын
It really just depends on how well maintained the vehicle was. A lot of people neglect their vehicles
@mvcharisma
@mvcharisma 3 жыл бұрын
Where’s all the Toyota fan boys preaching their reliability now? Saw a land cruiser broke down on the freeway this morning as well. Just goes to show, but what you like and maintain it properly and hope for the best 😂
@donhappel9566
@donhappel9566 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, the excuses are flowing strong. Of course if this had any other badge on the grill they'd all be here ranting about what a POS it was. Because there's no hater like a Toyota fanboi hater.
@ShawDAMAN
@ShawDAMAN 3 жыл бұрын
There's fan boys. If it was a Chevy with 180,000+ miles on it with this issue no way I'd say it was trash. By the way the little Tacoma didn't break down. It was still fully operational in year 20. But Toyotas are far from perfect. They just on average are less prone to major failures early in their lives. I could tell you plenty of stories of american vehicles crapping out well under 100,000 miles. I work with a lady who's husband tows boats for a living. On his heavy duty Chevrolet truck he's had to have it in the shop for significant repairs 3 times already (went into limp mode the other day) and it's only 2 years old. He drives it of course but all highway miles and always keeps up with maintenance. Really shouldn't be the case.
@donhappel9566
@donhappel9566 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShawDAMAN Of course - no brand is immune from issues but somehow the toyota bois are the worst about preaching how toyota is god and everything else is crap. There can be no compromise. Any logical person knows a used car is more about who owned it than who built it, but if there's so much as a light out on any other brand they seize on that and shout "what a POS!" while ignoring their own problems.
@ShawDAMAN
@ShawDAMAN 3 жыл бұрын
@@donhappel9566 I think there's a lot of truth to that but I would say the make is still significant. I don't care how often you change the fluids on a land rover or a fiat its almost certainly still going to have more issues after 100k than a Toyota or Honda with comparable maintenance (or for that matter, a Ford.) Maybe Toyota fanboys are worse. Other manufactures have their irrational adherents too. You don't hear Chevy/ford/dodge guys screaming about reliability though... That isn't why you buy one of those vehicles and most of their owners realize it and are willing to put up with the likelihood of some less 'bulletproof' designs and build quality for other reasons. There's a reason why Toyotas have the (albeit exaggerated) reputation that they do. I've owned two of them myself (as well as 2 other brands.) I prefer the Asian makes but I'm not blind. I owned a Honda Civic ("they run forever!") That had catastrophic transmission failure at 89,000 miles lol.
@LukeEdward
@LukeEdward 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. You could have bought a 1998, Chevy Cheyenne 4wd 305ci V8 access cab truck with 200k miles for that.
@thesuppcollector
@thesuppcollector 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@shiftmotorsports9803
@shiftmotorsports9803 3 жыл бұрын
And it runs!
@LxTxSURGE
@LxTxSURGE 2 жыл бұрын
Probably will need a job also lol
@trabertgraneau3323
@trabertgraneau3323 3 жыл бұрын
I’m going to miss the Rocky. But at least the engine problem is fixed
@rockie307
@rockie307 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota has a reputation for reliability and everything I'm just curious why most the people I know that drives them have trouble with them? I don't have alot of experience with them personally but what I've seen from people that have them doesn't match what the internet and rumors say. A guy I know always talks about how reliable Toyota is and there the best thing ever. I asked him what all he had to go bad on his tundra that's 10 years old he names off a few thousand dollars worth of things. That doesn't seem so great
@DM-sq3jm
@DM-sq3jm 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine has over 300,000 miles with only routine maintenance. Wear items like brakes, tires, bulbs, 1-clutch have been replaced as needed. Still running strong. He bought a 2.7 manual brand new and has no plans to replace it unless it gets stolen or totalled.
@JohnSmith-lc8mp
@JohnSmith-lc8mp 2 жыл бұрын
I have had 3 toyotas and 2 hondas and they have been amazing. You obviously have to do regular maintenance. Buying an old car of any make or model without knowing how the previous owners maintained it is always like playing Russian roulette.
@Fiftyfiv3hundr3d
@Fiftyfiv3hundr3d 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate TFL’s commitment to quality. In respect to the vehicles and their content. These presenters are so familiar and personable, they feel like friends.
@johnmca5643
@johnmca5643 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1999 3.4l Tacoma with 285k miles. About two years ago I needed a new head. A new head was going to cost me $1,600 here in Seattle. If the 2nd head was to fail soon after I'd be out $3,200. I elected to put in a used 3.4 from Japan. Guaranteed to have under 50,000 miles. That cost me $3,600. I feel good about that decision.
@seanhershey3390
@seanhershey3390 3 жыл бұрын
Rebuilt heads are 6-700.00...3500.00? That’s a crate engine...
@shanechepren8119
@shanechepren8119 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was way cheaper but they needed that reality tv drama for views.
@ATH_Berkshire
@ATH_Berkshire 3 жыл бұрын
Boulder is an expensive area. So when you add the costs to get it out do the job and put it back to the cost of all genuine Toyota parts I could see $3/3500.
@Offshore1977
@Offshore1977 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to find someone near me that could rebuild heads for $650
@bobbybeyer2127
@bobbybeyer2127 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m pretty disappointed in TFL, they totally got hosed. You could have easily taken that head to a good engine builder and had brand new seats put in, new stem seals, the whole nine yards, for 1/3rd of what they paid.
@JoseMorales-yw6no
@JoseMorales-yw6no 9 ай бұрын
Mine fail at 300k miles, new head, new timing chain kit and did the job myself watching KZbin videos!! It came out perfect 🔥😎🔥
@live4mac
@live4mac 3 жыл бұрын
I've commented on this multiple times over the years but I really want to see TFL build up a 'cheap Jeep' 05-10 Grand Cherokee WK with the 5.7 Hemi and Quadra drive II. I've always believed that the toyota tax just isn't worth it. You started this tacoma series by saying these thing were bullet proof and then brought up the common frame rust issue and are now having engine issues. The WKs are depreciated to the point where you can get a very good condition one, with the full quadra drive offroad package (electronic locking F/C/R diffs and skid plates) and a Hemi V8, for well under $10k. I would even recommend a 'cheap Jeep' father son challenge with a WJ vs WK that could be very well built for under $10k each or compare it to your FJ cruiser. I'm biased since I own one, but I think the Hemi WK is an overlanding bargain and even with higher maintenance costs, overall cost of ownership is still less than a similar year toyota or wrangler. I love the offroad videos you produce and especially the cheaper off road builds, I been a TFL viewer for over 10 years now, keep up the great content!!
@jaya1000
@jaya1000 3 жыл бұрын
That's the problem with a used Toyota. Previous owner was a Toyota person aka never change the oil, never service it on schedule.
@RagingBad
@RagingBad 3 жыл бұрын
Im a Toyota owner and i maintain my truck very well so...
@RagingBad
@RagingBad 3 жыл бұрын
Im a Toyota owner and i maintain my truck very well so...
@pulser955
@pulser955 3 жыл бұрын
You guys should put LC Engineering header on that. It was the best thing I did for my toy when I had it. I kept cracking the stock exhaust manifold from heat off road. And it eliminates 2 of the connections in the down pipe. It goes from the engine to the cat as one peace.
@waynes.2983
@waynes.2983 3 жыл бұрын
The 2004 came with a header stock.
@AustinLWright
@AustinLWright 3 жыл бұрын
All vehicles need maintenance; they’re complex mechanical systems. The difference with Toyota’s is that you are rarely throwing good money after bad.
@shiftmotorsports9803
@shiftmotorsports9803 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, you're dillusional. If they had to keep this truck in good operating condition out of their own pocket to replace the frame and now this $3k repair, they would have spent $15-$20k for a $5k truck. Put down the kool-aid
@eman0828
@eman0828 3 жыл бұрын
@@shiftmotorsports9803 Lol compare that do a Dodge/Chrysler/Fiat or your Ford, GM and Nissan. Toyota's statistically have the least amount of problems as they age. I still drive a 15 year old Camry se and everything works with 191k miles on it.
@AustinLWright
@AustinLWright 3 жыл бұрын
@@shiftmotorsports9803 if you think this is a 5K truck, you’re the delusional one. Put down the haterade and realize some vehicles are simply made better than others and have a well earned reputation. We don’t all have to be Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers fans to realize they are excellent quarterbacks. Same with vehicles.
@kevinblock2307
@kevinblock2307 3 жыл бұрын
I agree - you can make any vehicle last if you’re willing to pump the money into it...depends how much you love it
@hippiebits2071
@hippiebits2071 3 жыл бұрын
@@shiftmotorsports9803 Toyota paid for the frame replacements so the frame issue was an inconvience rather than an expense.
@xotic8617
@xotic8617 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a 19yr old Ute ( sorry Aussie here ) ‘Truck’ ... yes it sucks but just think how good it will be after it’s fixed 🇦🇺🤙🏼 I have a v8 twin turbo diesel 200 series Landcruiser here as well and love it 2 bits 365,000km (227,000miles) on it now and still going strong
@Bajaafter909
@Bajaafter909 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2.7 Pre runner new in 2002 and drove for 185000 miles and never had to do one repair, only front brakes and fluid changes . Get a Tacoma if you can.
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 3 жыл бұрын
TOYOTA QUALITY!!! That truck must have **1 Million*187,000 miles** on it! It's not possible that a TOYOTA engine could fail at a measly 187,000 miles. Even LADA's last longer then that!
@notasolution
@notasolution 3 жыл бұрын
It didn’t fail at all it just got a valve adjustment lol
@mbiker345
@mbiker345 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing those three wipers made me miss my fj.
@quickturn66
@quickturn66 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same exact truck with 270 k and it runs perfect
@fetcher321
@fetcher321 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same truck as well. Have the valves on your truck ever been checked/adjusted?
@quickturn66
@quickturn66 3 жыл бұрын
@@fetcher321 I just got it this summer so I don't know but it runs smooth and gets good mileage
@CraigSmith568
@CraigSmith568 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Toyotas didn't even need an oil change until one million miles. Someone must have deliberately done this.
@RagingBad
@RagingBad 3 жыл бұрын
It’s actually 1,500,000 miles
@CraigSmith568
@CraigSmith568 3 жыл бұрын
LOL I guess I should have researched it more.
@FarmerTed
@FarmerTed 3 жыл бұрын
42,000 miles our dealership got a warranty return on a doctors Toyota and found he had never changed the oil. Yeah a doctor.
@CraigSmith568
@CraigSmith568 3 жыл бұрын
@@FarmerTed Of course I was just joking, but I do know a guy who drives nothing but Dodges and he told me that they never need oil changes. He said he just changes the filter and tops off the oil. He wasn't joking either.
@tt600pch
@tt600pch 3 жыл бұрын
The last two Totas my son had were both low compression on one cylinder. The true sing before he checked compression was the gear drop vibration. Driven easy they will go a long time. Drive them like a rental and they will get towed.
@Misiekgren
@Misiekgren 3 жыл бұрын
Seems on par with the leaking valve cover job on my 2017 Tundra. Both valve covers were leaking, thankfully I have the extended warranty or I'd be paying out of pocket for 21 hours plus parts 😬
@ChaoticDave69
@ChaoticDave69 3 жыл бұрын
What the heck is a valve tower ??
@Misiekgren
@Misiekgren 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChaoticDave69 oh crap sorry, valve cover* supposedly when Toyota switched to liquid gasket maker the machine wasn't applying a sufficient amount causing the seal to leak within 60k miles or less. They rectified the issue in 2018.
@ChaoticDave69
@ChaoticDave69 3 жыл бұрын
@@Misiekgren got it figured it was a typo . Lol
@estebanamador7601
@estebanamador7601 3 жыл бұрын
I remember a lot of fans telling you : " why a Land Rover, you should buy a Toyota and bla, bla, bla". 🤣🤣🤣. Moral of the story: any old car could fail, it doesn't matter the brand. For me, the most important thing with old cars is the spare parts availability, and for that, american brands has no competition.
@alphaclean3364
@alphaclean3364 3 жыл бұрын
This. F150's and Silverados in particular. It is stupid easy to keep them going as even classic parts are kept in stock at the stores
@estebanamador7601
@estebanamador7601 3 жыл бұрын
@@alphaclean3364 sure. In my case my oldest car is a 1988 Monte Carlo LS and I can get everything and with a good price. Greetings
@robertyoung8289
@robertyoung8289 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly charity doesn't start at Charlie's repair shop If he burned you for $3500. 😀
@ChaoticDave69
@ChaoticDave69 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah what the hell what a rip off
@seanfrank4158
@seanfrank4158 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChaoticDave69 3500 for a head job seems a little steep IMO....
@toldroyd1
@toldroyd1 3 жыл бұрын
I betcha find out that the engine after your repair is still rough at idle with the transmission in drive. Remember that this is a 4 Cylinder 2.7 liter engine. While we don't think that 2.7 liters is large, for a 4 cylinder automotive engine, it is huge. With only two power pulses per crankshaft rotation, it is bound to vibrate. The 2.4 liter 4 cylinder version of this engine is far smoother with an automatic. When asked why he chose a 12 cylinder V12 2500 CC engine design for the 250 Testa Rosa ,the designer of Ferrari engines said that for maximum smoothness and power in a 4 cycle engine you should never exceed 400 CCs per cylinder. That said, any 4 Cylinder 4 cycle engine larger than 1600 CCs is a compromise. Think about what jewels 1600 CC 4 cylinder engines are. The 2.7 was a great engine hooked to a manual transmission. It had no load until you let out the clutch. Hooked to an Automatic transmission, not so great. As a customer relations manager, working in a Toyota dealership, I would try to steer purchasers into the V-6 if they had to have an automatic. I also trained our sales staff to do the same. We lost some sales to other dealers because of that. With 6 dealers in a 50 mile radius, I saw the results of this. People would want the 4 cylinder with an automatic in 2 wheel drive (2.4 liters) and they were great. But in 4 wheel drive 4 cylinder automatic customers were unhappy at how the engine felt sitting at a stoplight or stop sign in Drive. For a while, I would get customers who purchased a 4 Cylinder 4 X 4 automatic from another dealer and come into our dealership unhappy with their truck and I would have to try to handle them. All I could do was tell them; that was normal with this engine and the only answer was to shift into neutral or park when sitting at a stop light.. Needless to say they were not satisfied, but what could I say. I even had a customer that I spoke with when they were purchasing a 4 wheel drive and left our dealership as I would not sell them a 4 cylinder automatic. A month later they came into the dealership complaining that the 4 cylinder engine that they purchased from another dealer was really rough and demanded that we take care of it as the other dealer would not. Since I had spoken with them when they were purchasing it and would not sell them the 4 cylinder, it was easy to tell them that there was nothing we could do and I told them that when they were purchasing it. This was only customer complaint that I could not satisfy. Working with Toyota, we eventually solved it by taking his 4 Cylinder in trade for a v-6 3.4. We then wholesaled it to a used car lot in Wyoming. 2 years later Toyota solved the problem by only offering the automatic with the 3.4 V-6 in a 4x4 Mitsibushi tried to get around that by mounting 2 counter rotating balance shafts in the bottom of the engine on their 2.5 liter 4cylinder engine which caused other problems when the timing belt would skip a cog on the balance shafts which would then have the engine bouncing around under the hood like a crazed break dancer on acid. This could happen even though the timing belt was OK and the valve timing was not disturbed.
@BboyMobster
@BboyMobster Жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense!!! I see why people swap for 2.4l or v6. I have a taco 4x4 that the previous owner swapped a 2.4 into it.
@LxTxSURGE
@LxTxSURGE 3 жыл бұрын
I’m at 260 on my 95 taco with a oil pump leak and it’s still running strong lol, I also got a starter problem with the connection plastic broken off got me stranded for like 3 hours till we figured it out lol A mechanic quoted me 900 for the oil pump fix I said I might as well get a engine rebuild I want my taco to go all the way up to 1000000
@suburbanfreak87
@suburbanfreak87 3 жыл бұрын
ran 100psi in cylinder 6 for over a year on my 350 vortec where the other cylinders were 150psi. Was still running strong where I did have a misfire every now and then, but still drove my truck all over the place and didn't fail a bit. $3500? WOW!
@xziang
@xziang 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping things honest with cost and such. :)
@salami99
@salami99 3 жыл бұрын
thx for giving the numbers. some ppl won't say $
@Dan0TheMano
@Dan0TheMano 6 ай бұрын
Just got my 2002 manual back on the road, 140k miles. Had to patch the frame but she’s running great after sitting for 3 years.
@MaxBrandenberger
@MaxBrandenberger 3 жыл бұрын
So...why do people say Tacomas are so great? You payed $7700 for an 18-year-old truck. This one has had the frame replaced and now the head replaced in 180,000 miles. I had a Chevy Tahoe that was the same age with the same number of miles and all that was ever replaced on it was the starter.🤣
@JB-he1jt
@JB-he1jt 3 жыл бұрын
I owned a 2000 4Runner 3.4 2wd with 185k miles on it. Truck was never abused meticulously maintained and never overheated! Misfire symptoms slowly started to appear out of nowhere. Long story short it turned out I had a small fracture on one of the cylinder heads. Pulled them both out and replaced with rebuilt ones from a machine shop out of Texas after doing this job twice for trying to have the heads just rebuilt. Lesson learned! Total spent on job even after me listening to local shop to have them rebuilt was around $1700 with be Asin timing belt kit, idler, tensioner, thermostat, water pump etc. But all that labor was done by me in my home garage so I did not feel too bad and learned the engine inside out! These engines can be intimidating but are not that bad after you go over some videos or manual and buy one or two special tools that you will eventually reuse.
@shanechepren8119
@shanechepren8119 3 жыл бұрын
I am confused why you need a new head for a valve job......
@8__D
@8__D 3 жыл бұрын
The valve seat is in the head
@shanechepren8119
@shanechepren8119 3 жыл бұрын
@@8__D and? Doesn’t require an entire NEW head or a different head. You can lap them and reseat them.
@8__D
@8__D 3 жыл бұрын
@@shanechepren8119 well you see it’s not a new head, it’s a refurbished one. It’s very common the buy a refurbished part for quicker installation and sell the bad part to be refurbished and sold elsewhere
@8__D
@8__D 3 жыл бұрын
@@wilmarbarrick3194 you can do whatever you want but in the end you’ll have the same thing, a refurbished head
@BAYAREAMX
@BAYAREAMX 3 жыл бұрын
So much for that Toyota reliability.
@Welcometofacsistube
@Welcometofacsistube 3 жыл бұрын
Overhyped junk
@bobscott9253
@bobscott9253 3 жыл бұрын
I'm confused. He rebuilt the head? I would figure the head would be brought to a machine shop for seats and guides ect. 🤔
@Zach-ju5vi
@Zach-ju5vi 3 жыл бұрын
I'm confused as well, what was the second head for if they had it rebuilt?
@Navin.R.Johnson
@Navin.R.Johnson 3 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think Charlie had a new head and really wanted that Rocky. He sent the old head off for a valve job, and now still has a good head. Charlie is a smart cookie.
@tmwei396
@tmwei396 3 жыл бұрын
I love this truck. I can't wait for the auction to start. The bid will most likely go beyond what I want to pay but someone will be a very happy camper with this.
@gsdlvr123
@gsdlvr123 3 жыл бұрын
I do think the 3500 is a bit steep - but I'm certain it depends on where you live and if you have full confidence in that mechanic, then it is worth it. However as the owner of 2 Tacomas (2019 TRD Off Road with 91K miles and 2002 TRD Off Road with 240K miles), I have to say the $3500 is a small price to pay considering (other than basic maintenance) you will probably go another 200K miles with no issues. Our trucks see plenty of off road time (we own a horse farm) and the reliability of these little trucks is far better than the GMC/Ford trucks we have/had. BTW I love the topper on that little truck - very functional.
@glenmel78
@glenmel78 3 жыл бұрын
So what was the labor rate? $500 an hour?! A rebuilt head job shouldn't be but $1500.
@tundras4ever552
@tundras4ever552 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.....
@MrSenaid2010
@MrSenaid2010 3 жыл бұрын
Probably did timing chain , water pump and head gasket obviously while in there
@Walterrinho
@Walterrinho 3 жыл бұрын
Probably a specialist in Toyota
@wildman1137
@wildman1137 3 жыл бұрын
It's japanese crap you clown. Everything is more expensive, especially a cylinder head rebuild/replacement.
@johnturner5893
@johnturner5893 3 жыл бұрын
@@wildman1137 He is not a 'clown" just not familiar with today's insane prices. the average new US vehicle is $ 40K now.. You can sell your 3 years old Tacoma with 50K on it for $5 K less than what you paid for 3 years ago. But look up the old FORD Ranger's used price too.if you want a 4X4 nothing is cheap..Used prices are manipulated by the the different "book values" in N-America. Used prices are MUCH lower in Europe..
@nilsjohansson9739
@nilsjohansson9739 3 жыл бұрын
Toyotas last forever...except this one has a new frame, oh and a new valve train. If it were human it would have osteopetrosis and need open heart surgery. Glad it's fixed!
@dw7071
@dw7071 3 жыл бұрын
This is why its important to check/adjust your valve lash. The 2.7 3RZ uses shims so people put it off and then you'll burn a valve. My 99 Tacoma has 330,000 on the original 2.7 engine.
@7734Kromm
@7734Kromm 3 жыл бұрын
Well worth restoring it with genuine Toyota parts. Nice job!
@ricksmith7659
@ricksmith7659 3 жыл бұрын
They got ripped off by about $1500
@DafuckyallLookingAt
@DafuckyallLookingAt 3 жыл бұрын
@@ricksmith7659 lmao 🤣
@jimmydelozier6177
@jimmydelozier6177 3 жыл бұрын
My silver02 single cab has 365000 miles on it lol my dad bought it new and I bought it from him with 230000 for 3 grand lol great trucks
@alexgarcia3900
@alexgarcia3900 3 жыл бұрын
Those years were the best. The interior is something to laugh about but the rest is pretty solid. Too bad chevy is junk now
@jimmydelozier6177
@jimmydelozier6177 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexgarcia3900 it’s a silver 02 tacoma but I feel ya about the chevys
@alexgarcia3900
@alexgarcia3900 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimmydelozier6177 oh lol. For some reason I thought you meant a Silverado lol. Yeah man nice trucks for sure
@fetcher321
@fetcher321 3 жыл бұрын
I have the very same truck that I bought new. 68K miles on it. Have the valves on your truck ever been checked/adjusted?
@jimmydelozier6177
@jimmydelozier6177 3 жыл бұрын
@@fetcher321 luckily not. I’ve have to replace my timing chain and that’s it. And I did the Delete so there’s only one timing chain instead of 3. But ya shes been a great truck! I mainly use it for hunting now cause I bought a newer 4 door so she doesn’t get the full load anymore lol
@Mr.Ramirez95
@Mr.Ramirez95 3 жыл бұрын
That is a good looking truck I'm glad it came to you guys to save it from the junkyard.
@MarcoMartinez_11
@MarcoMartinez_11 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff! I'm so glad for the budget that y'all were able to work something out.
@Ryan-rn8gk
@Ryan-rn8gk 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 2001 that I purchased new in Charleston, SC. Every year I would visit my family in upstate NY at Christmas and noticed how much valve clatter I would hear in the NY cold weather. It would sound like a diesel when it was cold. Go back to Charleston and I would forget about it until the following year. Kept that truck for 6 years and 130k without a single issue.
@mus_xr4653
@mus_xr4653 3 жыл бұрын
That’s funny because you were saying it’s bulletproof.
@rogerj412
@rogerj412 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man even bullet proof vehicles have weaknesses. Just ask the drug kingpin that died after a random bullet got through the keyhole on his armored, gold plated Jeep.
@GO-cz7cl
@GO-cz7cl 3 жыл бұрын
Probably was abused by the previous owner. The ones you usually see were bought brand new and were babied. Those are the ones that are bullet proof.
@mus_xr4653
@mus_xr4653 3 жыл бұрын
@@GO-cz7cl No, they said that it was common.
@JohnSmith-lc8mp
@JohnSmith-lc8mp 2 жыл бұрын
It is a 20 year old vehicle. I think the Comment section is forgetting that.
@5lugtaco836
@5lugtaco836 3 жыл бұрын
05+ Tacoma’s have hydronic last adjustment for those valves!
@tacomas9602
@tacomas9602 3 жыл бұрын
No one should be worried about a 2500 dollar repair on an engine, that will run forever. The engine will need nothing else.
@peterdragon6367
@peterdragon6367 3 жыл бұрын
A head job huh? I understand. Sometimes I need one of those as well
@mario-sl6cz
@mario-sl6cz 3 жыл бұрын
can you do a video on Charles shop and his story you never really see shop dedicated to Toyotas lol
@johnbauer7658
@johnbauer7658 3 жыл бұрын
The toyota maintenance youtube channel is pretty great
@BentonHart
@BentonHart 3 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting. I've taken my 4Runner to Charley's and they fixed a super obnoxious electrical problem with my headlights. He did it for a super reasonable price too.
@RobbieHerrera
@RobbieHerrera 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the rest of the truck is nice enough that getting the cylinder head done is okay.
@Whateva67
@Whateva67 3 жыл бұрын
I drive a 92 civic SI,put a new timing belt in a couple of years ago and at the time they checked compression, one cylinder was 100,2 were at 110 and last one was at 180. Did the work anyway because the car still ran great even with the 429 thousand kms on it. Drove it almost two more years and to 462 thousand until finally it was running on only 3 cylinders because compression got so low,drove it home 1100 kms from where I was working in northern British Columbia and it’s now sitting in driveway 🚗
@yeahman1975
@yeahman1975 3 жыл бұрын
I cry a tear for the Rocky glad you went to a good home.
@joecruz4846
@joecruz4846 3 жыл бұрын
3500 is a burn.
@DafuckyallLookingAt
@DafuckyallLookingAt 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that a tough pill to swallow.And like others I can’t see how this job cost $3500 but the 1st Gen Tacoma is a quality truck so I guess they figured it was worth it 🤷‍♂️
@scotturich
@scotturich 3 жыл бұрын
Now we see why Toyota ditched those motors
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 3 жыл бұрын
🤣😂 huh? It has 182000 unknown miles on it.
@scotturich
@scotturich 3 жыл бұрын
@@flight2k5 182 is very low for Toyota motors, most trucks will go that without any problems, Toyota’s easily reach 300k all day long...so I stand by what I said we see why Toyota got rid of theses engines, they just aren’t up to Toyota standards
@flight2k5
@flight2k5 3 жыл бұрын
@@scotturich once again. UNKNOWN miles. Who knows how the engine was taken care of be previous owner/ owners
@toycoma98
@toycoma98 3 жыл бұрын
2rz/3rz was around 1996-2004, thats a pretty long time. My 2rz has 190,000 miles with a turbo and it still runs good.
@4runner510
@4runner510 3 жыл бұрын
They still make the 2.7 for the Tacoma
@cashtalks6253
@cashtalks6253 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2002 Tacoma with the v six with just over 307,000 miles. I just had the same issue and had my head rebuilt just got it back on the road and it runs like it did when it was new.
@joemcmillan2089
@joemcmillan2089 3 жыл бұрын
So you buy an 18 YO vehicle w/182,000 miles and a rough idle. Surprise, surprise, surprise! It needs a valve job.
@jamesdwyer9320
@jamesdwyer9320 3 жыл бұрын
Weird. That 3RZ is widely considered to be one of the most reliable engines that Toyota ever made. Guess it goes to show anything can break. My V6 4Runner with the 3.4 5VZ was running strong at 305k miles when I sold it. Good on you guys for fixing it though!
@KTMcaptain
@KTMcaptain 3 жыл бұрын
Toyota isn’t better than the others. If they were they’d flaunt it all over advertisements with their own statistics. Instead they state they have a “reputation” for reliability.
@buttslam1_140
@buttslam1_140 3 жыл бұрын
350k miles on my 22re and 302k on my v6 with no engine work done. If you perform common maintenance and Keep up with valve jobs and other things that need to be done with the engines they will run. I’ve seen 3rz’s run too 380k with ZERO engine work and yet I see other trucks on marketplace blown up with less then 200k constantly.
@KTMcaptain
@KTMcaptain 3 жыл бұрын
@@buttslam1_140 I guess you don’t understand statistics. For example, I’ve known 3 people with over 300k mile Silverados and nothing more than maintenance and one made it to 450k before the engine went. My own Ram 2500 went to 330k mikes before the odometer broke and I sold it before anything ever went wrong with it outside one bad vacuum hose and a leaky hydraboost reservoir. . Toyota keeps data on their products, and they themselves don’t say their products are more reliable. They say others say their products are more reliable.
@judsonr1
@judsonr1 3 жыл бұрын
Love the series. I could use the black plastic at the bottom of the front bumper after you pull it. My son punted our 2004 into a snow bank after passing into a blizzard on the west side of the Eisenhower Tunnel.
@steve_put_this_here
@steve_put_this_here 3 жыл бұрын
Had a flawlessly running 2.4 taco. Too bad it was stuck in a truck that had a frame that looked like rotted cheese...
@jamit762
@jamit762 Жыл бұрын
Mine cracked in-between the valves and at the plug too. Never over heated just one of those things with these
@soulsurfer8797
@soulsurfer8797 3 жыл бұрын
Did you all not consider getting a JDM 2.7 or 3.4 swap into the truck? As I have several engine swapped JDM engine cars and they run like Tops and handle the added S/C’r without issues. You would only need a bridge harness from Toyonlyswaps, an ECU, and a harness from the recycler.
@thewampus97tj
@thewampus97tj 10 ай бұрын
That legendary Toyota quality 😂😂😂😂
@iamgermane
@iamgermane 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese do not keep vehicles with over 100,000 miles on them. They drive them straight to the junkyard.
@speterbilt
@speterbilt 3 жыл бұрын
$3500? 🤣📢HAHAHAHAHA
@GO-cz7cl
@GO-cz7cl 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe 1k at most.
@kirkhotopp2522
@kirkhotopp2522 Жыл бұрын
I recommend Engine Tune Ups every 30,000 -40,000 I have over 200,000 Miles On MY Tacoma Noticed Engine Tune Up, including a few upgrades The Truck will last a long time !!!
@toasteroverdrive1097
@toasteroverdrive1097 3 жыл бұрын
If you think you have the same problem before spending that money. buy some decarbon remover in a spray can. AC Delco is great. Sometimes a little bit of carbon on the valve seat will prevent full compression on a cylinder, causing a missfire and a shaky idle.
@Ukrainianification
@Ukrainianification 3 жыл бұрын
$3500 for replacement head? That’s robbery right there.
@personator907
@personator907 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about the Rocky the other day. I guess that answers my question.
@themaster3331
@themaster3331 3 жыл бұрын
I love the the fact that after they find out this one mechanic has seen many of these engines fail in one shop then in the same sentence they say it’s a great engine. If this unit had any north American badge on the grill everyone would be going on about the crappy engineering and poor build quality would make me laugh if it wasn’t so sad.
@walkingman9171
@walkingman9171 3 жыл бұрын
Feel free to keep buying American junk.
@jacobmeza4064
@jacobmeza4064 3 жыл бұрын
@@walkingman9171 seriously. guy takes one experience and applies it to all cars 😂
@themaster3331
@themaster3331 3 жыл бұрын
@@walkingman9171 and there we go the same generalization that I was just pointing out has struck again that was the point of the comment I’ve owned 3 Toyota trucks as well as all of the North American brands so to me it doesn’t matter but you have to love fanboys.
@donhappel9566
@donhappel9566 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly right - according to every Yota fan-boi I've ever met all other vehicles are crap and only a complete idiot would buy one because they all explode and kill you 50' off the dealership lot. While no Yota anywhere has ever had a failure of any kind. As you said, if this had any other badge on the front they'd all be here screaming about what a POS it was.
@donhappel9566
@donhappel9566 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobmeza4064 You mean kinda like the Defender review they've posted? Where all the people who've never owned a Rover get off on trashing them because they had a friend who's brother's father's old roommate once read a story on a forum about how a guy he never met had a bad experience? Kinda like that?
@albertoruiz1273
@albertoruiz1273 3 жыл бұрын
So are we not going to mention that boy NOT warming up that truck and going ham after fixing it?
@d.castillo9495
@d.castillo9495 2 жыл бұрын
I got a 98', extra cab, 2.7L with a Supercharger. Now it has guts going uphill.
@FrankySilverFace
@FrankySilverFace 3 жыл бұрын
$1000/year maintenance is a normal cost of ownership. Some years less some years more.
@k9feces
@k9feces 3 жыл бұрын
That was my 2005 F150
@joshd108
@joshd108 3 жыл бұрын
My 99 head gasket just blew. More than likely dropping in an entire new motor from a donor taco
@pmonte1872
@pmonte1872 3 жыл бұрын
Moral to the story you always do a PPI !! I had to learn the hard way 20 yrs ago. lol
@kennethisaac3799
@kennethisaac3799 3 жыл бұрын
$3500? That sounds crazy high!
@JonBecker81
@JonBecker81 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this isn’t a BMW or something.
@kimoandrews5802
@kimoandrews5802 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that they gave the real retail price...
@WhoThisGuy515
@WhoThisGuy515 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah my dad had this exact same thing done on his toyota and the shop charged $650 to remove and install the head and machine shop charged $300 to do a full valve job and plane the head true.
@walkingman9171
@walkingman9171 3 жыл бұрын
@@kimoandrews5802 You mean gouge price.
@tonysantana1493
@tonysantana1493 3 жыл бұрын
That is a pretty sweet truck Whoever gets it We'll be lucky . I picked up a four-wheel 95 Toyota Tacoma 6 months ago . She seems to be pretty sound, Garage kept For many years. She only has 86000 MI On her . I'm going to definitely Baby yet!
@nickanderson5825
@nickanderson5825 3 жыл бұрын
@TFLClassics... i think its about time you guys do a build and provide to a vet!
@emanuelbrister5903
@emanuelbrister5903 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣Y'all love toyota so much 🤣🤣
@puopolvj2
@puopolvj2 3 жыл бұрын
Just did one of these. Piece of cake.
@buddy8225
@buddy8225 3 жыл бұрын
Baby Yota got a head cold, took it to the doctor. He gave it a shot and now Baby Yota is all better.😀
@dellstudio10
@dellstudio10 3 жыл бұрын
My Ford 300 blew a head gasket around 220k. Since it had such high milage I went ahead and had the head rebuilt. Costed around $320 for the rebuild and head gasket. I did the rest of the labor myself. So $3,500 seems real steep. I know a shop has gotta make decent margins to stay operational but man that seems high priced.
@DafuckyallLookingAt
@DafuckyallLookingAt 3 жыл бұрын
What did the rest of the labor include?
@seaeff6428
@seaeff6428 Жыл бұрын
Just bought a 99 one owner know it had a misfire, body and interior were immaculate, but did the same thing and threw code p303 bought it cheap because they assumed it needed huge work. Same thing it was around 150 psi aside from cylinder 3 was at 90.
@Miles-wy1zr
@Miles-wy1zr 9 ай бұрын
Same but with a 95 v6. Looks brand spanking new but has a p0303 that comes and goes. Thinking of driving it till the engine blows up and putting a junk yard engine I was given.
@OnTourWithPattiSmith
@OnTourWithPattiSmith 3 жыл бұрын
You people don’t even have ... .. an OBD scanner when you are buying these cars! If you are not going to bother with a PPI the LEAST you can do is plug-in an OBD scanner. Those misfires were sending some codes about cylinder #3. You should be testing scanners and making videos on cost, u.i. and quality information garnered from different products. You’re laymen and could give an important point of view on using different OBD scanners.
@doylee469
@doylee469 3 жыл бұрын
Yup 2.7 just werent the same quality as the 3.4
@EulogizingSleep
@EulogizingSleep 3 жыл бұрын
true to an extent, the big thing that people never did with these(which is why this video was made) was adjust the valves.the manual calls for checking clearances every 30-60k miles or thereabouts I believe. if you do that and adjust when necessary there is no need for a valve job.
@miguelbrown65
@miguelbrown65 3 жыл бұрын
That's all I want is a 4 door 4X4 manuel.with that's lift and canvas top😍
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