We Had Electric Cars in 1900... Then This Happened.

[@OurChangingClimate]

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[@katjapranka9255]

My favorite is electric car and bikes!!!

[@saeedsanei1272]

Walking, and the Tube

[@zwithabun]

Biking!

[@a.randomjack6661]

I take the bus. But you should also look into why the electrical tramways got pushed out by buss's. Short answer, as always, is more lobby. Thanks again for your excellent videos

[@ThatFluffis]

my partner and i both love biking and walking to our destinations

[@neiljohnson6815]

The problem with electric cars in the early to mid 20th century was availability of electricity. My grandparents did not get electricity in their home until 1959. They lived only 25 miles from a small city.

[@broodypie2216]

Rudolf Diesel built a generator that ran on peanut oil for the 1900 world fair. Trains have been diesel electric since the 60s. Many construction heavy equipment are diesel electric. We couldve had multi fuel generator electric hybrid cars for almost 100 years now, and they would average 40% more efficient with better torque running at idle. This wouldve bridged the gap until solid state, carbon batteries, and battery recycling and recovery caught up.

[@TheSilmarillian]

@@broodypie2216 Valid point indeed.

[@BarryTsGarage]

@@broodypie2216 let’s not fool ourselves, diesel electric trains are powered by diesel fuel, and the electric motors are simply a technical go-between to put that power with amazing amount of torque to the wheels.

[@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL]

Same problem today, basically. NYC has the wealthiest people in the world and a populace who are very supportive of EVs, yet less than 1% of NYC car owners used EVs because retrofitting chargers would be astronomically expensive and impractical. That percentage is lower than at the turn of the previous century.

[@IggyArssie]

They where not hybrid’s they charged by the ether plugging them into the ground and harvesting electricity via cathedrals and churches roof too harvesting rods and storage facilities free energy was not just limited to cars

[@venomtailOG]

My only problem with electric vehicles is that so far all electric car companies refuse to cooperate with right to repair. They want to turn into an Apple like product. If that happens, will be a lose/lose both for us and the environment

[@jasonriddell]

everything is being increasingly "locked down" for monthly revenues to the companies and increasingly having built in end of life pre determined when the maker decides the money spent to maintain the services required is greater then the revenue they want to FORCE a repurchase into the NEXT NEW version

[@dwh5512]

Well, not the environment as lithium mining, per ton extracted, is 1000 times worse than oil & gas.

[@dougandersen645]

Aptera is the answer. Right to repair is part of their philosophy.

[@ericschmidt7359]

The electric cars have to have batteries that don't catch fire be I buy.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

My main problem with electric cars is the electricity still comes from fossil fuel.

[@NorceCodine]

Germany tried twenty years ago to replace cars with trains, they had a price range and subscription rate of tickets for virtually every segment of society, and German trains are state of the art and were always on time. It worked for about 5-6 years, people were really enthusiastic about using trains every day. When the economy started to really boom in about 2005, people spent 80K Euros on Porsche and BMW, and trains were suddenly seen as something for the working class, despite that they were the fastest travel on land.

[@jjc4577]

that was the impetus behind Klaus Schwab saying "you'll own nothing and you'll be happy."

[@two_tier_gary_rumain]

The trouble with trains is that you have to get to a station (walk or catch a bus, taxi, etc.). Then you have to wait.

[@VitaeLibra]

​@@two_tier_gary_rumainThat's a horrible way to portray it. A car has to sit in traffic too. Wait times with trains is only as much of a problem as timr spent is with every other form of transportation. But for the different purposes rail can fill your "time wasted" is completely different. Trams, railcars and metros work like busses and have stations everywhere in a city. The only reason you'd need to go to an actual train station is if you were going out of town and by that point a train would still be faster than a car (or even a plane at below... 1000 miles or 1000 kms can't remember)

[@two_tier_gary_rumain]

@@VitaeLibra Cars only sit in traffic when there are poorly designed roads with poor traffic management and poor capacity.

[@VitaeLibra]

@@two_tier_gary_rumain ...Induced demand...

[@davidsande2342]

When talking about charging system we also need a standard system rather than having multiple different systems.

[@ai4px]

agree.... J1772 plug created in 2009 but didn't support fast charging. Tesla asked, the SAE sat on it's hands. So Tesla had to go off on it's own. After the Model S was released and Tesla had committed to a plug type, the SAE finally ratified the CCS plug in 2013. Why isn't there one standard plug? Gee, I dunno, look at Ford GM, VW for the answer.

[@Neojhun]

Nope CCS based on J1772 or Mennekes depending on the continent you are in is now the defacto standard. It's a horrible connector that is dangerously unergonomic. But that is practicaly what every EV uses including Tesla.

[@ai4px]

@@Neojhun Every car including tesla model 3 uses the CCS2/ mennekes plug in the EU... I'm in the US market and we use a different plug for J1772/CCS1 vs Tesla plug. The Model s and model x do not use the CCS2

[@Neojhun]

@@ai4px Tesla already has a CCS Adapter for Menekkes Supercharger Model S & X. Quite sure they can do a J1772 if they need to.

[@ai4px]

@@Neojhun Yes, every tesla sold comes with a J1772 adapter in the US market. We are discussing the DCFC portion of the CCS1 or CCS2 plug. Holy smokes.... My first post in this was about the lack of a DCFC option... and that the SAE organization sat on their hands until Tesla was compelled to release the Model S and then ratified the J1772/CCS1 plug.

[@Tom55data]

I am English, and travelled to the US a lot in my last job... Even in California... 1) When asking the hotel staff, where to walk, they told me, but it was a very long way ... how long - "at least a mile" FFS 2) I got stopped by the police when on a walk - when they asked me what I was doing walking down the street, when I spoke in UK-English - they said "oh you English , that is OK" and left. USA - has a car problem even in California. 3) When staying in a hotel in another city I could see the office about 200 yards (meters) away - but when I asked how to get their I was told walking was not possible - there was no way I could cross the roads to the office for that 200 yards there were no pavements (sidewalks). Every day I had to get a taxi to drive me to the office. USA - has a big car problem.

[@jamesmooney8933]

Right, as a youth in Pittsburgh, my parents own a car, but only put 5,000 mile a year on it. The reason for this was that everything was in our suburb. Supermarkets, hardware stores, car dealerships, , dry cleaners, etc. Today, I live in a suburb of Pittsburgh, nothing is in our area. I put three times as much mile on my car in a year as my parents did.

[@chobzter]

Indonesia face the exact same problem

[@189Blake]

That's by design. The same reason why public transportation is bad, or why there are no trains in the US. The US needed to sell cars, even if that was against the best interest of the people. Families are in need to have 2-3 cars so everyone can move around, but then again, that was a designed necessity.

[@davidpeppers551]

@@189Blake It is not just transportation. We have a system which seems designed to maximize consumption. That is bad for individuals and bad for society, but great for the economy.

[@Natadangsa]

@@chobzter True. Especially in cities like Makassar and Kendari where NOBODY WALKS.

[@off_mah_lawn2074]

3:14 Completely wrong fact: “Henry Ford exploited his workers.” Henry Ford actually paid his workers exceptionally well for the day, at a starting wage of $5 per day, over $20 an hour today. His motto was that he wanted every one of his workers to afford the cars they made. Please do a *little* research before spouting BS

[@Zgreasewood]

Ford dud that at first but as time went by he became a typical greedy man , thus we got the United Auto workers union. Go to chapter 2.

[@erickolb8581]

@@Zgreasewood As opposed to Sam Walton?

[@Zgreasewood]

@@erickolb8581 few work for Mr Sam, those who do get perks, to stop thatb, Wal-Mart never calls most who work there, Associates, thus we Subsidize Wal-Mart workers with things like food stamps, then Wal-Mart doesn't have to pay them a livining wage. EXPLAINS WHY REPUBLICANS NEVER STOP THE WELFARE STATE, it is a tax on workers so business don't have to pay a living wage.

[@off_mah_lawn2074]

@@Zgreasewood I can believe that. But not during the time period referenced in the vid

[@timothybretschneider9041]

I appreciate your point, but a lot of very severe caveats that came with that pay raise: jalopnik.com/when-henry-fords-benevolent-secret-police-ruled-his-wo-1549625731

[@J_to_the_F]

German politicians in 2010: "by 2020 every new car will be electric" The same politicians now: "5% of all new cars are electric! We have done well!!!"

[@overtaxed3628]

So typical for Germans, optimism without any foundation !! After defeats in both world wars one would think that their arrogance had come to an end, but no, they still think they are ‘ubermench’. Whoever didn’t meet them didn’t have a good laugh.

[@J_to_the_F]

@@overtaxed3628 oh, I am from Germany and I don't know any other German personaly who would describe himself/herself as "Übermensch" or anything like that. Of cours there are some few but these shout so loud that you hear it far. And just another lesson to learn from German history: Don't judge an entire nation/ethnik group/race or people as one. Its the single individuals you should care about. Just a tip from a GerMAn!!!11!!1😉

[@overtaxed3628]

@@J_to_the_F Yes, thank you for your answer but let's just hope for human's sake that some german kid dont fail at art school . kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYSwlqCcfc1qhck&ab_channel=BBCNews

[@Giruno56]

@@overtaxed3628 Will you stop? Im not german, but it's childish to keep talking about the nazi's when anything about Germany comes up. It's like screaming 'vietnam' or 'Irak' everytime you see an American. Not very productive either.

[@LasVegar]

Yeah in Norway we got above 50% new electric cars

[@polderdebanjan]

Along with the fact that Norway subsidizes its electric cars, it would be good to also mention that almost 50% of its exports are direct fossil fuel based products like crude oil and gasoline.

[@joaquimbarbosa896]

@@zUJ7EjVD Yes, but many (literally many) ppl say that Norway is an exemple to follow. Wich isnt true. Also by selling oil and gas Norway isnt ambiental friendly

[@joaquimbarbosa896]

@@zUJ7EjVD Idk where I said that stop exporting oil and gas is a solution, i think you may learn to read first

[@seanconway1154]

Don’t forget they’re the worlds biggest exporter of synthetic nitrogen fertilisers. The number one cause of all our environmental problems.

[@Neojhun]

That's a GOOD thing and a very smart move. A Drug dealer shouldn't get high on their own supply.

[@stevezodiac491]

They also have an abundance of hydro electric and other forms of renewable energy, it makes sense for Norway. Not representative for most other countries

[@billdurham8477]

What killed the early electrics was gas car no longer required the driver to be a mechanic. And as far as climate change goes, the normal weather pattern is 3 parts ice age, 1 part temperate. And most electric cars wont even turn on below -10 F. You have to have ordered the optional battery heater and plug that in overnight too.

[@jackmcslay]

Norway: average income of about 48000Kr per month (equals to about U$67.000/yr), a population of about 5.5 million, gini index of 24.8 USA: average yearly earnings of about U$51.000, a population of about 320 million, gini index of 48.5 Don't make these 'worked in country X' when the country in question has completely different socioeconomic conditions. A subsidy on EVs on a country with high inequality is taking from the poor and giving to the rich.

[@RealestUrbanism]

Arguing against EV subsidies or (very commonly) against gas tax that it "takes from the poor" is extremely short sighted. Everyone including poor people benefit from the reduction of transportation emissions. Also, the US has much larger economies of scale than Norway, so not only can we do everything Norway can, but we can also do it better!

[@saims.2402]

When people have a convenient option, they will take it.

[@FSXgta]

If human see shortcut, human take shortcut. We can't change that

[@robmcd]

And this is why people drive to work. A bus-train-streetcar commute doesn’t work. Driving to the train and then train to work is the most amount of Modes people are willing to take.

[@jacobpitts6846]

@@robmcd it works if those are the best options, like in ever other developed nation. 🤦

[@KarlSnarks]

@@robmcd It does work though. Source: Live in a Dutch city, don't own a car (my mother is the only one in the family that has one)

[@UlexiteTVStoneLexite]

Gas is not convenient though when the price keeps going up and you have absolutely no way to get around that problem. I got an electric car and my energy cost and never change.

[@paulmodderman]

As a consumer, I don't want an electric vehicle ever. I don't trust charging during bad weather or want to have to wait for hours to recharge.

[@Cotswolds1913]

Have fun paying that gas bill then.

[@Brian-om2hh]

I've had an EV for 3 years. I've never waited hours to charge anywhere.

[@SalemikTUBE]

A mate of mine went to the US a few years ago and discovered the top way to get the attention of the police. WALKING! He said any time he set out on foot to have a look around he was stopped and interrogated by armed police. He ended up having to carry his passport with him. No pavements either in the burbs. Cars all the way.

[@alphamikeomega5728]

>Land of the free >"Oh no, you can't cross the road here! It's illegal!"

[@GrantEllingson]

Sad face 😞

[@gwen25]

sounds like fahrenheit 451

[@theincrediblehulk2865]

Reminds me of the The Pedestrian by Ray Bradbury

[@nelsontoondrawer7618]

Yes. Same thing happened to my autistic son... very tall fellow, muscular, loves dressing all black.

[@jameshollister3718]

One of the things that usually seems to get left out of this conversation is transportation in rural areas, especially the rural US, where there is not the population density to support our common ideas for what it takes for safe drinking water and highways, let alone public transportation or EV charging stations. . .

[@sammencia7945]

Where did you get this ignorant idea that the rural USA cannot access safe drinking water? The statement is a lie, propaganda, and not reality based.

[@fredmertz4819]

@@sammencia7945 uhm, when I moved to Port Angeles, Washington state. I got sick off the local open topped reservoir with dead animals in it. The local news papers warned against drinking it, but we were new the area and didn't hear about it. This was about 2002. They did put a cover on the areas affected eventually. But, it was a painful event. It was about 20 years ago in a small but fairly affluent port city nearby to Seattle Washington.

[@sammencia7945]

@@fredmertz4819 I have been to Port Angeles and drank the water while there. No issues.

[@jameshollister3718]

@@sammencia7945 Sam, I understand that it's embarrassing to think that there are places in our great country where there is not access to safe drinking water. But that doesn't make it untrue. My wife is a safe drinking water inspector in Central PA. There are places in the rural US that do not have safe drinking water, places that are not as dramatic or as well known as Eastern KY or parts of WV. You may choose your options, but you may not chose your facts.

[@sammencia7945]

@@jameshollister3718 You are imagining things. I stated that it doesn't exist and I live in rural USA and I have been to Port Townsend, WA. I am talking observable reality. I did not mention emotions such as "its embarrassing to think". Do you understand? I drink tap water from a faucet in a rural location in the USA and the water is fine. The faucet is 10 feet from where I sit. I have tested the water for metals. Perfectly healthy, none present. What part of that don't you understand?

[@rare_wubbox360]

As a Norwegian i will correct you on the topic of bev car prices in Norway; gas cars are way cheaper than bevs👍🇳🇴

[@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL]

How much is electricity in Norway?

[@keithbaker1951]

" you will own nothing and be happy" ahh the " perfection" of renting and not owning..

[@the_kombinator]

I'll own an EV when I can work on it.Until that time, I'll keep my 30+ year old carburetted cars.

[@imoldgreggboosh3467]

@@the_kombinator You better keep your old cars running, cause you can no longer work on new models (unless you got several computers).

[@the_kombinator]

@@imoldgreggboosh3467 I've got.... probably 20+ computers in my house ATM, but a lot of them are older than my second youngest car (1999r) :D

[@MickeyMousePark]

@@the_kombinator your comment fascinates me..so you want to be able to work on current cars using your knowledge of 30+ year old cars? the other part is at some point you learned to work on carbureted cars..are you saying you do not want to learn to work on new cars.... If you were to switch that knowledge to other industries ..i refuse to use a computer that uses Windows because i understand MSDOS.. or i refuse to use a cell phone because i understand how a wired landline works... Sorry if i misunderstood your comment..with an EV there are very few things to "work on" compared to old school cars...

[@the_kombinator]

@@MickeyMousePark Skills are transferrable. My point is I don't see the need to outfit my garage with a 2nd mortgages' worth of specialized equipment to keep them going if I can keep my cars going with what I know already. I'll see - once my 05 Sonata finally kicks the bucket (changing out the rad tomorrow at +2 degrees, yay) I plan on buying a used EV. Let's see how that goes. For now, I'm gonna go work on a 286. :P

[@tim01263]

I'm from the UK, when I first visited the US it shocked me that you couldn't just walk to town from these apartment buildings. The shops were all 'out of town' massive things that you had to drive to. Public transportation was limited and looked down upon. In Europe, you can happily live without a car, you can walk, cycle and use public transport pretty easily in most cities and towns. If the US is to fall out of love with the automobile, it will face a significant infrastructural and cultural up hill battle.

[@jimrtoner7673]

Yes life is more livable in European cities. American cities built after autos became popular are too spread out to be able to provide public transportation

[@roberte.andrews4621]

I live in a village by the sea for 61 years now. I used to drive my son to school on my 10-speed bike, walk to work and spent a lot of time bodysurfing, too. We had little four-cylinder cars for the occasional holiday or reunion trip - a Morris Mini (1960), a 1959 Singer Wagon, a Citroen 11 (1953), a Peugeot 403 and 404, etc. Now, I have a 1997 Lexus LS400 parked underground in a security building one block away from my studio on the beach which I probably don't use once a week anymore, being in my 80s and widowed. My carbon footprint is very small now. I use my shopping cart when making weekly forays up the street to cleaners, apothecary, grocery and shops. Walking has kept me fit, as swimming once did. Big cities are not for me.

[@giacomoneri1782]

In UK probably, in Italy public transportation is horrible, you'll definitely be struggling without a car. Sure you can go having groceries by feet, you'll find something, but if you want to leave the block without taking an eternity to go from point a to b, then you'll definitely need some kind of personal transportation, like a car, a moped or a simp boyfriend who drives you to places

[@nicolabagnardi6945]

@@jimrtoner7673 those cities were not built after autos. they were destroyed after autos. lots of american cities were livable places before automobiles, but they bought up land in low income and black neighborhoods to build freeways and parking.

[@wholearmor]

"...pretty easily in most cities and towns..." Not good enough.

[@randuthayne]

Thanks for bringing race into a video about the first electric cars

[@heronimousbrapson863]

One of the problems faced by electric cars was that electic utilities in the early 20th century were increasingly using the Westinghouse alternating current system over Edison's direct current system. As electric cars need to be charged with dc, this presented a technical problem as the only way to derive dc from ac at the time was with rotary converters, which were expensive and generally used mainly for powering higher voltage dc systems for streetcars, etc. As dc must be used at the voltage at which it is generated (its voltage cannot be stepped up or down with transformers as with ac) it was harder to bring dc voltage to the level required to charge electric cars unless they were able to use the higher streetcar voltage assuming you lived in a community that even used streetcars.

[@jasonriddell]

back in the day cars were "stabled" like a horse was and those "stables" would NEED to invest in the chargers / rotaries "home" use was a MAJOR issue for ANY car in 1900

[@richardledlightguy]

Actually changing ac to DC was not a problem as they had mercury arc rectifiers.

[@stevenlitvintchouk3131]

Despite what this video suggests, electric cars will never be "perfectly serviceable" until you can park one in the street and not worry about recharging. Those of us who are apartment or condo dwellers without garages cannot just "recharge an electric vehicle overnight".

[@bins1]

Well because barely no one did any innovations on electric cars until now, duh. Batteries are still a huge concern because little innovation has done to batteries over the past few decades. It will sure be a much servicable automobile someday

[@mrmexicano64]

I assure you a kind of portable charger for cars will be invented much like those for phones and also a 120 Volt wall socket-to-car adapter will be invented for this. and probably even 240 Volt wall sockets will become standardized on house/parking lots for cars.

[@devon12346]

@@mrmexicano64 portable chargers already exist its called a generator

[@mrmexicano64]

@@devon12346 i was thinking more like a independent energy battery unity but i mean that works too

[@BareRoseGarage]

And worse, they slowly discharge. Like a car does now, because of all the "computer" stuff in them. Kinda like your phone. Leave it on and let it set...... it will die. But you can pick up your phone to plug it in. These things are total dead weight, and Very Hard to tow. My friend has already had these issues with her Tesla, and it's not cheap when you can't carry a couple gallons of electricity in a can to get you to a charger.

[@chrismaxny4066]

Mine is walking but we also have an electric car that is charged by our ground mounted solar system. However we use the EV locally and for commuting but for long trips we use our hybrid. We took the EV on one long trip just to see what it is like on the road. If one has the time EVs on long trips are fine but in less than 15 minutes I can refill and have a 532 mile range on the hybrid. The only EV that can match the hybrid costs over $100,000 the hybrid cost us less than $25,000 new. So my take is there is still a way to go before EVs replace ICE cars. Also on making cities and towns walkable, which many major cities already are, they also have to be made safe.

[@DUCKSAREEVILLLLLLLL]

"Also on making cities and towns walkable, which many major cities already are, they also have to be made safe." Unfortunately, those pushing for pedestrian friendly cities also promote catch and release for their violent criminals. The two goals are incompatible.

[@jsongeredu2995]

The biggest problem I see with this is just the scale of some countries. You could travel for two days solid for about 2000kms in Australia and still be in the same state. In Europe you would have started in France and be in Russia over the same time frame. In large dense cities around the world I can see this working but not sure about isolated places where the next person is 50kms away.

[@ancapftw9113]

Exactly. Here in Georgia I have to drive up and down hills for 15 miles/ 20 minutes each way just to go to work. In the early 1900s I couldn't have gotten to town in an electric car. Now my mom has a hybrid, and it works great, but that's because modern lithium batteries are more powerful and store more electricity than the lead acid or nickel/iron batteries of the time by an order of magnitude. Plus regenerative breaking helps extend that.

[@pleaseendmethx9455]

While train towns would’ve been fun I think cars will always be a reality of rural areas and with such little traffic I don’t think anyone can argue it’s not fair to have cars there

[@ralphwarom2514]

In my country electricity is unreliable and charging stations do not exist.....so.... XD

[@jasonriddell]

nice you CAN drive 2000KM in one direction BUT you DO NOT do that more then ONCE or TWICE the average drive in these "large" countries is about the same as it is in "small" countries and in Europe you can DRIVE for days in a ROW across Europe with the same "ease" as America/Australia and Trains are MORE then capable of traversing those LONG distances and QUICKER then a motor car can as it keeps "driving" while you are eating / sleeping ETC

[@GiordanDiodato]

not to mention the transport of goods.

[@twiddler71]

First electric car range = 1.5 miles at 4 mph. First gas car range = >100 miles at around 10 mph. Didn't take long to figure out which was superior.

[@PistonHonda87]

But he needs to bring up it’s because white man bad.

[@edlondon3717]

Never electric! Gasoline engines the best

[@ghcfuj77557]

​@edlondon3717 best for effective travel, worst for the planet

[@Cotswolds1913]

@@edlondon3717the loudest and the most polluting, and the most expensive over their lifespan.

[@jarikinnunen1718]

Now is "Fire and Ice" problem. Battery fires are extremely dangerous and impossible to extinguish. In very cold winter cars range is half of summer range and charger stations not work.

[@andrewkilman3271]

the fans demand an Our Changing Climate podcast!!

[@jonathanwilson5355]

That would be pog

[@OurChangingClimate]

Hahahahah I'll work on it. What kind of podcast would you want to see?

[@jonathanwilson5355]

@@OurChangingClimate hmmm, it could be bonus episodes for topics similar to ones you’ve covered on your KZbin channel. It could also be a place for collabs with other climate KZbinrs, as well as interviews if the idea really takes off, but those are ideas right off the bat of course.

[@twalton]

@@OurChangingClimate It could be a great way to talk with climate scientists and share more of the research and events behind the of making of these videos.

[@Xactenergy]

@@OurChangingClimate I personally would love a podcast, that discusses the videos. Ideally you and someone else (or two). Maybe there would come up some interesting arguements.

[@mastershake11434]

You should make a video on Tesla and how tech giants like Elon Musk won't save us from our lack of sweeping climate regulation

[@OurChangingClimate]

I did a video on Tesla! And i'm going to do a video on Elon Musk, and I'm really excited about it :)

[@samuelprice538]

@@OurChangingClimate I hope you'll actually try harder with your research. Elons tweet was very sarcastic. Cant believe you presented it out of context as him being serious.

[@marlonseiring-andersen1680]

@@samuelprice538 i agree. It's kind off annoying for me as i respect and admire both OCC and Elon musk

[@KarthikVishwamitra]

@@marlonseiring-andersen1680 Why would you respect Elon? He's just your typical inherited wealth billionaire, except (probably) worse than others since he got his money from his parents' apartheid South African emerald mines. He literally bought the title of "founder" from Tesla's actual founders. He actively fought against pandemic restrictions just so he could keep his Tesla assembly lines rolling. He actively (and sometimes illegally) fights against his workers' rights to unionize. He's just another billionaire scumbag. And that's without even mentioning his weird egotistic personality and tweets.

[@stephenbudge7337]

Elon wants to add a Carbon Tax

[@morrigambist]

When my great-grandmother took a ride in her sister's electric car, it stalled, of course, on the only railroad track in town while a train was looming. They managed to get out of the way in time, but the car didn't.

[@juanmanuel3418]

3:10 Ford exploited his employees? He instituted the 8 hour day and $5 day (1920 dollars)

[@bastiat691]

Yeah, that was a sneaky marxist propaganda they made there.

[@bhlacks]

I don't think he necessarily means it in the negative way. By giving better treatment for his employee and let the masses knows about it, he exploited that certain working condition to his benefit which ends up winning the competition.

[@MysticKenji2]

doing that is still compatible with exploiting his workers

[@RacerX888]

He had a group of strikebreakers who beat and killed employees who didn't cooperate. Read more than the headlines or stop using Wikipedia for information.

[@bastiat691]

@@RacerX888 As if the UAW doesn't have a long history of violence themselves, including against people at ford, people refusing to strike, as well as a history of property destruction. Its not like it's angels that got beat up. And the reason there was something to fight about in the first place is that the workers didn't honor their contracts while preventing other workers from doing so through violent means.

[@toycarpgmr]

As a small older woman, I do not feel safe on public transportation. Also bringing home groceries and bulky goods is impossible on the bus. In addition, public transportation has a last 5 mile problem now.

[@cryogeneric]

Even with congestion, cars will always be the most convenient form of travel. If we can perfect self-driving cars this will greatly reduce congestion, too, as cars could travel quickly & safely to our destination. I don't see a future where cars ever go away, but it may be realistic to reduce the number of cars on the road for redundant trips like commuting or traveling to events, etc.

[@DrCruel]

Henry Ford wasn't "exploiting" his workers in 1912. At the time they were some of the best paid and most enthusiastic employees in the world. Labor problems would start at Ford over a decade later, as Ford cars faced increasing competition.

[@DreamingConcepts]

Seems there is still interest to discredit Henry Ford, probably to make sure noone will read his books on where he exposes the Khazars.

[@manius1222]

Bike > Train > Bus > Car

[@shrin210]

Bike means bicycle right??

[@dand.4245]

@@shrin210 yes

[@Xactenergy]

Everything has it's purpose and usecase I guess. When I drive out to the countryside, for a vacation, I prefer the car. It gives me the freedom to explore around the place that I stay at - it would be a greatly reduced radius otherwise. And it's not feasible to have rental cars/trains/busses everywhere. But maybe rental cars are possible... Hmmm idk

[@samuelprice538]

Walking?

[@solrac4]

Walking is very inefficient

[@steve87thpsap]

I always find it funny that these Electric Cars are great videos, never talk about the environmental impacts of batteries, the higher initial costs of the vehicle, the extra strain it would put on an already over taxed electric grid, which also uses fossils to keep up with demand and of course now the latest, how much effort and cost there is to put out and electric fire in an electric car. Sure it’s a good thing, but you want everyone to think that there is no cost. How about once we just tell both sides. I will say this video in history was done very well. On the CA electric car, it it was actually profitable, easy and made sense with the “large backlog” GM would have continued production. So apparently it didn’t make economic sense.

[@jonathantan2469]

Early electric cars - One important fact overlooked in this video were the great advances in internal-combustion engine technology as a result of World War 1. After the war, internal-combustion engine tech had a great performance advantage over electric vehicles... which still had to deal with that problem of range due to the limitation of that era's battery technology AND charging technology. Even today, a Tesla supercharger takes around 1.5 hours to fill up the tan... I mean battery.

[@portersorensen8814]

I'm glad you mentioned that

[@sgsuper1150]

What to 20% effficency? Ev are 90% you must understand fuel cars use double the energy.

[@MrMensa141]

You turned me off when you stated that Henry Ford Exploited his workers. Until then I had the impression that I was actually watching a historical message.

[@Tamburahk]

well most of the EV fanboys and enviromental fighters for freedom are ultra left thinking people.......... You wont get any unbiased answer what is better not from IC lovers either EV.... but EV community is creeping towards communism or fasism.......

[@davidyeager8869]

Henry also pretty much invented consumer credit, nothing like a massive debt to keep you going to work!

[@juanmanuel3418]

3:10 Henry Ford exploited his workers? He payed them more than any other company, and instituted the 8 hour day on his company

[@HaddonGooch]

Yeah he exploited them alot, the only things he did were good , higher wages, Saturdays off etc, was because they could then afford to buy his cars, don't get me wrong they are still good things but those also get more publicity's then all of the negatives that he did, worth doing your own research though.

[@ianwynne5483]

Yes, very selective and biased wording, want more this then sign up to nebula

[@rattlehead999]

Eventually.

[@fwefhwe4232]

its like saying tech giants exploit software devs while paying them 400k usd a year

[@rattlehead999]

@@fwefhwe4232 very few software devs get paid 400k a year and their CEOs, COOs, CFO and other executives still earn 50-350x times more... decades ago the disparity was only 3-5x times between executives and engineers.

[@timotb1]

And today, two years after the release of this video on KZbin, the electric vehicle is in less demand than ever because of its inefficiency, in terms of cost , convenience, and range that the customer wants. Yeah right let’s go back to the horse. That way we can all have a much slower life.

[@brianmccarty2636]

They at least partly failed because they didn't have the range which in my opinion makes them an inferior vehicle.

[@armoredp]

Of course they were inferior, making this about gender and race or greedy corporate manipulation is completely ludicrous. People didn't want a vehicle a child could outrun with the range of just a few blocks, you might as well walk.

[@rrice1705]

@@armoredp Spot on. You can say whatever you want about how "evil" Henry Ford was, but the fact is his Model T was, at least by the standards of the time, reliable, long-ranged, and reasonably fast. In short, it was was people want a car to be. People talk about "range anxiety" now with modern batteries built with modern materials, but imagine what is was in 1910 with 1910-era batteries.

[@shaynegadsden]

@@rrice1705 thats pretty easy to just think how far you would go on a standard car battery lead acid batteries really havent changed much so electric were also very heavy a dangerous in an accident your hauling a lot of sufuric acid around

[@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043]

Not true, gas cars also need power stations to charge, while they need less they still need them and other than that there weren't really a lot off things worse than a gas one, so it was a more cultural change

[@rrice1705]

@@marmolejomartinezjoseemili9043It may be true today that gasoline stations rely on electrical power, but it wasn't back in 1910, or at least not to the same extent. Fuel tanks in a lot of places were above-ground and gravity fed at the time.

[@giannirocco7492]

In the late 1800s Porsche made a car with an electric motor at each wheel that was said to travel in excess of 100mph!

[@artdecotimes2942]

don't tell others that, they won't believe you for a second. In 1904 there was an automobile that went 116 miles per hour, the fastest natural motor sedan in 1904 was a Reliance motor wagon (I hate the name they gave it: wagon when it really isn't) that went 45 to 50 miles per hour for the average civilian! In 1880, a electric bus in Manhattan traveled at the speed of 20 miles per hour with 4000 pounds of sand sacks on board with funny faces painted on it and hats. My grandmother attended that in her 30's. History is lied to us, it has been ever since the 1960s.

[@giannirocco7492]

@@artdecotimes2942 I heard that Porsche did that,think I actually read about it too.But if I'm wrong I'm wrong.Seemed pretty incredible but not otherworldly.Don't know if you researched or not but if you do get back to me!

[@giannirocco7492]

Guess he DID make an electric car way back when but it went nowhere near as fast as I said...

[@artdecotimes2942]

@@giannirocco7492 no no no don't listen to the internet, tell me Mr or Mrs Rocco? who do you think wrote that. A engineer born in 1870? no, some kid in his 20's, 30's, and 40's. even at the meer age of 70, you wouldn't have a world of knowledge. Thankfully I at age 82, have had visitation to my grandparents about the past of their lives and my parents. My parents were born first my father in 1889, and my mother in 1893. My grandfather was born in 1856... my grandmother 1853! only 3 Generations of us have lasted since 1853. now it is 168 years since my grandmothers birth and her grandchild I being the youngest of my brother and sisters.

[@artdecotimes2942]

@@giannirocco7492 do not think If it isn't on the internet, that it doesn't exist. Because guess what, we just found out that a Buick centurion 1956 had a remote camera on the back of it. I knew that since 1957 at the shows.

[@kieranmorris6765]

I can’t imagine anything worse than having to use public transport, every single time I’ve used it I wished I had my car with the only exception being flying Long distance because the inconvenience of having to faf about getting to the airport etc is less inconvenient than driving 1000s of miles

[@catalindeluxus8545]

Noting wrong with owning a vehicle for irregular (ie weekend) trips, but they are horrible for regular commutes. Car ownership can continue, but we NEED better public transit

[@christopherlee7334]

The problem is that so much of the USA is literally built around the personal automotive vehicle. Before the pandemic, millions of people lived in spread out suburbs and worked in offices miles away, then shopped for food even more miles away in the opposite direction. Even though the move back into the city is slowly happening, state and federal infrastructure is caught in a bind of being built for the past and four-year politicians not caring much for the future.

[@catalindeluxus8545]

@@zUJ7EjVD single-family zoning is desirable by families at large. So this will be met with opposition. Nothing however, stops the USA from building buses/trains/trams in or close to residential areas, except political will.

[@kajmak64bit76]

If you want better public transit... just go to pretty much Any EX-communist country... including North Korea... public transit is just awesome there... and Moscow has best Metro in the world... and the coolest looking metro And regular people use them too... not just junkies and all sort of crininals and what not etc... you get the deal... like in America

[@tpike32]

@@christopherlee7334 what are you talking about ? Before the pandemic. Millions of people lived in spread out suburbs.. millions of people still do!

[@smorinator]

9:00 you should know the average cost of a car in Norway is over 60,000 USD

[@Tore_Lund]

Also, Norway's grid is 98% renewable. In the US a kWh has a footprint of 420g CO2, so even driving a Tesla there emits more CO2 than driving a small gasoline or Diesel car in Europe! It would be an environmental disaster if every American got an EV, before this is sorted.

[@brianpencall4882]

Making a product "cheaper" by using subsidies is not cheaper.

[@That-Guy_]

Exactly, gas would be over $10/gal without all the subsidies.

[@deeptoot1453]

Just another video that could've been titled: "how US corporations ruined (insert specific market, product or service here) again."

[@rattlehead999]

and the sad part is people let them.

[@brestingheedness]

On the other hand, why didn't europe or the soviet bloc developed electric cars?

[@Jeffrey314159]

@@brestingheedness They did to a limited extent. The USSR even developed its own EV cars using Lead-Nickel batteries. It didn't catch on cause of the cost and limited recharge cycles of the batteries.

[@LouisSubearth]

@@brestingheedness cause cars were a luxury in the USSR and the majority of people commuted and moved around in public transit. They didn't need electric cars as their model maximized the amount of pollution per passenger through density.

[@peterbelanger4094]

Oh, but governments and non-US corporations are totally innocent, they haven't ruined anything, LOL.

[@1lasmith]

Love that taxpayers also bailed out GM while they put profits over people and the planet 😍😍

[@MrMakabar]

The US govenment did make a profit on that deal...

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

What's GM?

[@adt4624]

@@kittykittybangbang9367 I think it means General Motors.

[@ericwalker2434]

@@MrMakabar awesome 😍 the us gov made a profit off of the death of our planet too

[@fwefhwe4232]

gm is a horrible company, they made low quality cars here in India and went bankrupt few years ago

[@jakerood8685]

I love how everyone is quick to say electric cars are better for the environment but they never want to talk about how detrimental it is for the environment for them to make the energy for these cars

[@john1703]

And to make the lithium based batteries. Also EVs have no real world range beyond towns and cities. Try Nevada or New Mexico. As for Australia!

[@Luka_3D]

Depends on where you get the energy from. If you live in norway you can be sure that all your energy is coming from renewables

[@Luka_3D]

​@@john1703I'd honestly rather take a train if i had the option for those long distance trips and rent an ev at the destination if i really needed one. But besides that, some evs already have the range to go between states. Not to mention how fast they can charge at superchargers

[@schwarzerritter5724]

@@Luka_3D Too bad batteries don't work well in the Norwegian climate.

[@Luka_3D]

@@schwarzerritter5724 I thought so too but apparently it's mostly the Norwegians and canadians buying them. I don't know if it's just that people from those countries have higher salaries or if the governments just make it so appealing but one thing is for sure: If you have an ev with a heat pump and have a way to charge overnight, there is some evidence to suggest that evs are more suitable for colder climates. A tesla is going to be 'fine' in -30. On battery alone it's going to lose some charge due to the cold but if you have it plugged in it should keep it's temperature and charge. A gas car might have issues if you're not using the right oil or might not even start up at all due to how the lead acid battery handles the cold

[@gebys4559]

Are you saying that Henry Ford exploited his workers, more/less/same as the Electric Car company or any general employer those days?

[@thecarwreckhunter]

yeah that is a lie Henry Ford actually had some of the highest pay rates for workers in the 1920s, they got paid double the standard wage, I have no idea how the electric car company paid it's workers but i'd guess they were paid a standard rate so half of what a Ford worker would get

[@Prodigi50]

Technically speaking, all employers exploit their workers. He may not have been as bad but still...

[@thecarwreckhunter]

@@Prodigi50 not every employer would exploit their workers, sure a lot do but there can be decent people too

[@zacrl1230]

@@thecarwreckhunter All profits are stolen labor cost.

[@luigi55125]

@@thecarwreckhunter The ones that don't, fail. Massive corporations weren't built off of empathy, good values, friendship, and rainbows.

[@endstay]

So the "surprising" history is that customers at that time concluded that ICE vehicles were superior vehicles.

[@anonkasper7937]

No surprises Rockefeller mafia made sure electric and ethanol powered engines would never become mainstream

[@patrickchubey3127]

Increasingly poor EV sales indicate that ice cars are still winning the race for the same reason.

[@two_tier_gary_rumain]

Or that a corrupt "journalist" at the New York Herald nuked EVs before they became dominant.

[@Cotswolds1913]

@@patrickchubey3127EVs are winning in China, and they'll be winning in Europe in short order too.

[@chronodreaming]

Having an electric car myself, the race that you mentioned at the beginning makes me strongly believe that we would have much less traffic with mass adoption of electric cars.

[@aimemaggie]

we need to make cities that don't need cars

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

agreed or just better public transportation

[@米空軍パイロット]

@@kittykittybangbang9367 That's basically what Aime said

[@ShaudaySmith]

exactly. walkability and super strong and diverse public transportation infrastructures. Trains, and metros and accomplish a lot. Buses maybe less so as they are subject to the same traffic that the rest of us are. But it would be EXTREMELY expensive to retrofit cities and/or their surrounding neighborhoods. And NIMBYism is rampant in both residential and commercial areas.

[@Ashquacks]

Which is almost all of the major cities in Japan and China. You don't need a car to get around, and it's often more inconvenient to own/use one. It's just for the social status.

[@ryantexada9269]

Venice

[@Finntrans]

Can you make a video about living in the city vs. countryside?

[@secretsquirrel6718]

Oh here we go. "Exploitation of workers" In the firat minute.

[@giuseppetiso531]

do you mean "first" or "fiat", is the latter a new motor-head method of time measurement because if so I would love that.

[@jaswmclark]

The trouble with the electric car has always been the extension cord, and the source electricity.

[@whattheschmidt]

Ranges are much further today and electricity is way more widespread, higher power throughout the country. 99% of the time I plug in at home and that's all I need as it's rare I need to drive 200+ miles in a day, that's only for road trips.

[@tomstickney5500]

@@whattheschmidt thats fine if thats what YOU whant.

[@fredclifton1293]

I love the way alot of electric cars come with those flames painted on the side. Wait a minute, those are real flames. Just from driving it. Cool car

[@jillharris9919]

,why couldn't they hook up a belt to a generator from the drive wheels to keep the batteries charged. ?

[@MarsStarcruiser]

Well those problems get less over time

[@albertjackson9236]

The main reason EV cars are being purchased is because of the recent developments in the batteries and electronic controllers.

[@gregbenwell6173]

BUT electric vehicles STILL have a range problem, and then what happens to the batteries in an accident???? Not only can you be electrocuted in a car crash......these batteries CAN explode and even pollute the ground and ground water!! BESIDES it STILL requires oil to lubricate parts of an electric car also.....and it DOES NOT END THERE EITHER!! Because you need oil to make Nylon (carpet), Vinyl (dashboard and seats covers), paint and other things that are required to build a car!! ALSO Oil is required to machine the parts that machine components IN electric cars as well!! Gears in a transmission for example are still "milled to spec" on machines that require oil to lubricate them as they are "cut"!! The same goes for the production of driveshafts, wheel bearings and many other components of ANY CAR BUILT!! Even a bicycle requires "machined parts" and lubricants used on them and in their production!! And before you think that is the end the seat cushions and other plastic parts are all made from oil based materials as well too!!!! So electric vehicles STILL USE a lot of oil in their production is my point right down to the plastic radio knobs on the dashboards!!!

[@gregbenwell6173]

BUT electric vehicles STILL have a range problem, and then what happens to the batteries in an accident???? Not only can you be electrocuted in a car crash......these batteries CAN explode and even pollute the ground and ground water!! BESIDES it STILL requires oil to lubricate parts of an electric car also.....and it DOES NOT END THERE EITHER!! Because you need oil to make Nylon (carpet), Vinyl (dashboard and seats covers), paint and other things that are required to build a car!! ALSO Oil is required to machine the parts that machine components IN electric cars as well!! Gears in a transmission for example are still "milled to spec" on machines that require oil to lubricate them as they are "cut"!! The same goes for the production of driveshafts, wheel bearings and many other components of ANY CAR BUILT!! Even a bicycle requires "machined parts" and lubricants used on them and in their production!! And before you think that is the end the seat cushions and other plastic parts are all made from oil based materials as well too!!!! So electric vehicles STILL USE a lot of oil in their production is my point right down to the plastic radio knobs on the dashboards!!!

[@robinsss]

@@gregbenwell6173 the Tesla model 3 runs 300 miles on one charge that's equal to a gas powered car EVs need oil for lubricating parts but fossil based oils are not the only oils on the planet you could also use plant based oils as a matter of fact you could use plant based oils to make the vinyl , plastics and the paints

[@Noooo23523]

@@robinsss teslas are expensive

[@robinsss]

@@Noooo23523 you can buy a used Tesla model 3 for 35,000 dollars

[@YmiDnmE]

Why would cars in 2040 not be replaced by hoover boards or jet packs or some other means of travel

[@saabysaabinsky2785]

California's electric grid and power production can't handle the electrical load needed by the people. When you add thousands of cars on chargers at night, when green energy production is low or non-exsistant, then you've got a bigger problem.

[@deftknight7418]

I've been saying this for a year.

[@Averagegunenthusiast]

I am for electric cars and I don't know why other people who are are against nuclear power, nuclear power with wind and solar, solar on roof tops, can provide the power we need cleanly. I think the reason electrics will replace gas is because they will be better than comparable gas cars in a decade or 2. We do need to figure out how we are going to charge them, I would call this a challenge to overcome not a barrier where we so oh well we can't charge them today so don't worry about pursuing it.

[@deftknight7418]

@@Averagegunenthusiast, I don't know man, we would need to redo all the power lines with some seriously massive cables, redo all the transformers to handle the load, and if you want it to be green, build maybe close to a million wind turbines. (Solar leaves a big carbon foot print from the factory, so I don't know if I would call it green.) This could cost us close to a trillion dollars, and I'd say that's on the low side. I think we just need to get cars to run on greener fuel. The structure is there, we have the tech, and some alternative fuels can run in a current cars with light modification. Should we work to make it happen? Yeah, but it's going to take more than a decade to upgrade to it.

[@roberte.andrews4621]

California has more going for it than most states - there's abundant sunshine in most of the populated areas, there's tidal energy all along the coast, there is geothermal energy in many spots which is underutilized and there are areas where wind generation is viable. This year, we see the introduction of small wind generators without any blades and no noise! Banks of those and more efficient storage batteries, combined with solar could be enough for day to day EV usage. Don't discount technology, in the search for clean energy. It's the future. Where I live, we have 350 days a year when the sun shines at least once during the day. Storage batteries will be commonplace in homes in sunny climes and EVs will be as common as Chinese electric scooters in Californias's cities are now. Let's electrify before climate collapse forces us to and we find we're too little and too late. The future belongs to those with vision, not the naysayers.

[@deftknight7418]

Do you have 1 Trillion just sitting around? America doesn't. We need to slow down, not stop. put a solid million in to wind turbines one year, then update LA's grid to handle the power needed the next, and figure it out slower. At the rate were trying to do it, were going to crash the economy from spending money, which america litteraly does not have. And I swear if you say "America is rich tho!" No, america is in DEBT right now. We can't afford to spend all this money. Does this make sence to you now.

[@farishanafiah8461]

If I was forced to drive an electric car, I will drive one with hydrogen power. Battery is not as green as most people believed. The battery was manufactured in another place, and nearly all charging port is still powered by fossil fuel.

[@gromm93]

No, hydrogen is basically burning natural gas. Except with added expense and inefficiency at every level of production and consumption. Even if you got the hydrogen from the electrolysis of water (resulting in fuel 4x more expensive than gasoline), you'd be using 3x more electricity than an electric car. Hydrogen is a promise of a magic solution for people who have no clue. If you think electric vehicles are super polluting, your option is to ride a bike to work, but you already know why you (and everyone around you) are not already doing that.

[@farishanafiah8461]

@@gromm93 To think that the production of electric car battery isn't any different. Unlike hydrogen tank which will never experience degradation, battery won't last long. You'd be lucky to get a long range from a five-year battery.

[@MICHGO1]

YA GOTTA COME UP WITH BETTER EXCUSES.

[@robinsss]

@@farishanafiah8461 '''''''''''''''' You'd be lucky to get a long range from a five-year battery.''''''''''''''' where did you get this info?

[@robinsss]

that's because we ae in transition from fossil fuel to electricity once the transition is complete we will be able to make the electric car without any fossil fuels

[@pluxauag7555]

Those Streetcars you see in those old black and white films ran on Ammonia fuel until 1905. Ammonia fuel was the other loser to Petroleum being popular through the late 1800's.

[@AdrianFahrenheitTepes]

What’s interesting is that the Haber Process made it easier to make Ammonia, and Ammonia became the chemical used in refrigeration coolants until we got Freon.

[@thetakenking7061]

It’s worth pointing out where will all this electricity come from. What do you do with all these batteries and solar panels when they expire. That could create a bigger problem. Carbon capture is needed. Focus on that and solid hydrogen.

[@double-you3409]

Carbon capture is snake oil. It's way too expensive and inefficient to be feasible, Nuclear energy has improved by leaps and bounds since the 80s, we should take that path forward.

[@thetakenking7061]

@@double-you3409 I agree with nuclear but carbon capture does work and would be something that can be used to improve the current situation. Best not to put all your eggs in one basket. Use everything.

[@double-you3409]

@@thetakenking7061 Agreed.

[@blackbearsmithing7245]

Just installed a solar system for in my off grid cabin yesterday. All was good until today, woke up and it was cloudy. Now I’m running a generator to charge them up 😆

[@erickolb8581]

@@thetakenking7061 I learned that lesson as a young adult playing the Fallout games. Relying on a single tool or weapon equals death.

[@vladtepes481]

After listening to this a second time there is more that bugs me about this video. According to you government intervention is needed to make electric cars viable. Good inventions solve problems and their success is driven by the market. Computers replaced typewriters because computers were better and indeed cheaper. In 1975 an IBM typewriter cost $10,000 in today's dollars. Cars replaced horses because they allowed for better transportation and solved the HUGE horse manure problem and its associated diseases. Electric lights replaces gas lights, kerosene and candles because they were better. All of these transformations were market driven not government driven. CA has a huge problem in generating enough electricity. Who is now building or planning to build the extra power plants required to charge the all the cars and trucks.? Electric cars have a problem of range particularly when operating in cold and mountainous terrain. It would be interesting to drive an electric car from Vancouver, BC to Quebec City with the route entirely in Canada during January when temperatures might drop to -50F. Compare the results to a gas power car.

[@jmatthewssmith]

there's a little problem of pollution that you seem to over look. we reached the saturation point in 1968, just been getting dirtier since then. Breathe deep.

[@ancapftw9113]

@@jmatthewssmith only in cities. The path he detailed is pretty rural, so no pollution.

[@rrice1705]

@@jmatthewssmith We've been getting dirtier since 1968? With modern emissions controls, gasoline-engined cars cleaner then they've ever been. In the 1950s and 1960s, smog from auto emissions were so bad there were days you couldn't see further than three blocks in Los Angeles. Not saying they're perfect, but they're *much* better than they used to be.

[@TurboWorld]

@@rrice1705 who would even think that restoring nature would be a solution to help any of our pollution issues?

[@PeterDMayr]

@vlad power plants > renewables

[@thomasparker7305]

I wonder what the people in Chicago that got stranded because their electric vehicles stop working because of the weather would think of the video.

[@MrBeugh]

Henry Ford didn’t ‘exploit’ anyone and electric cars were also significantly more expensive than gas-powered vehicles.

[@trevoro3227]

And still are…

[@michaelspinks9822]

Very true. Henry Ford was paying some of the highest wages. He focused on efficiency. Objectively speaking, Ford has been one of the best companies to work for and often makes the most popular cars.

[@gerardwadman9293]

@@michaelspinks9822, you are correct and Henry Ford introduced the 8 hr work day. Poor research by the creator here. He paid $5 per day when the average factory wages were less than $3 per day.

[@Zerinsakech]

I love how GM had a good start to EV manufacturing many years ahead of Tesla, but they chose to stick with older gas cars because STONKS. Now they’re playing keep up.

[@sevencostanza3931]

GM also did not make profit on the car, so eventually GM would go bankrupt. Only way to make profit would be carbon credits & government subsidies. It is unfortunate that lithium mining & rare earth metals in batteries are so expensive. I think that is reason why Elon want to establish colony on Mars, to mine for battery materials. Will see if that happens.

[@thepspman116]

Lol that's a take for sure. Pretty sure GM is doing fine with contacts with gov'ts and police organizations across the planet not to mention their loyal customer base.

[@carlossalas6047]

Tesla's replacement batteries just cost 22,000$$ ???

[@justanotherboneclock8639]

In defence of the privately owned car: Hong Kong is a small city with excellent public transport but I still have to drive to school. Why? Because it's the only reasonable option for me. To attend my private, English speaking school, I would have to either walk for hours, bike for also hours, ride the train for hours, or drive a car in less than hour. Even with traffic, it ends up being the fastest option. OCC is right in saying that cars _do_ fit into the puzzle of how our society moves. It's also worth noting that most of my friends take public transportation to school, but they live much closer.

[@JanVerny]

From efficiency of transportation point of view, so much has been sacrificed to the cult of the automobile in the modern city that it's a completely understandable argument. Many times people are forced to live far away from the location they need to travel to. Buses or trolleys take long roundabout routes. Bikes cannot move fast enough and all the other issues. Yet I rarely see such huge difference between commute times, what I tend to see in my own experience is people hugely underestimating their average travel time via car vs severely overestimating the length of similar commute via other means. Do you also properly count in all the hours spent at gas stations, service/repairs, searching for parking, etc., most people don't.

[@fwefhwe4232]

how far is your school from home ? is there a bus / metro service nearby? how much time does it take by cars ?

[@justanotherboneclock8639]

@@fwefhwe4232 The distance isn't too far, but because of the buildings and hills in the way, it's quite a winding route. There is a bus station near my apartment that can take me to the train station. However, the many stops on the bus and train route make the journey average around 2 hours. Driving to school takes a little less than 30 minutes, and an extra 5-10 minutes depending on traffic.

[@GabiGhita]

Climate Town is absolute GOLD. Thank you for collaborating with him, he deserves more exposure.

[@gregbenwell6173]

BUT electric vehicles STILL have a range problem, and then what happens to the batteries in an accident???? Not only can you be electrocuted in a car crash......these batteries CAN explode and even pollute the ground and ground water!! BESIDES it STILL requires oil to lubricate parts of an electric car also.....and it DOES NOT END THERE EITHER!! Because you need oil to make Nylon (carpet), Vinyl (dashboard and seats covers), paint and other things that are required to build a car!! ALSO Oil is required to machine the parts that machine components IN electric cars as well!! Gears in a transmission for example are still "milled to spec" on machines that require oil to lubricate them as they are "cut"!! The same goes for the production of driveshafts, wheel bearings and many other components of ANY CAR BUILT!! Even a bicycle requires "machined parts" and lubricants used on them and in their production!! And before you think that is the end the seat cushions and other plastic parts are all made from oil based materials as well too!!!! So electric vehicles STILL USE a lot of oil in their production is my point right down to the plastic radio knobs on the dashboards!!!

[@paulmentzer7658]

At 13:30 you have the Pittsburgh Light Rail going over the Panhandle Bridge. The Light Rail System is the remains of the old Streetcar Interurban System. That part survived for it was mostly on its own Right of Way except in downtown Pittsburgh. In the 1980s, the old interurban system was replaced by the Light Rail system with the Light Rail Vehicles going across the Monongahela River via the by then abandoned Panhandle Bridge and tunnel instead of on the streets of downtown Pittsburgh. It was ad still is the fastest way between any points on that line and downtown Pittsburgh, mostly due to the fact it is almost only on its own Right of Way (the Light Rail Vehicle do not have to fight Automotive traffic as the Light Rail Vehicle goes to anf from Downtown Pittsburgh).

[@bgiv2010]

The real question is: what happened to stream cars?!

[@dave_sic1365]

Too expensive and less efficient. Steamengine converts 10% of energy into motion The diesel does around 33% Electric 95% but too much fancy metals needed But driving in steam is great fun. They have so much torque

[@crichtonjohn1187]

@@dave_sic1365 you percentages are not real, diesel nowadays can achieve 40-45% efficiency, gasoline can do 30-35% ( there are engines which can go up to 50% but they are too expensive), electric can do 85% and steam turbines used in thermal power plants have around 40-45% efficiency but they are not practical for cars.

[@cpufreak101]

TLDR, they very quickly became impractical compared to both ICE and EV. some steam models lived through to the 1920's I believe, but by then even the EV was on it's way out.

[@ancapftw9113]

According to the guy that made this video, Henry Ford conspired with Satan to crush his workers and Satan rewarded him by getting rid of them.

[@thepspman116]

In a way they're making a comeback (not really) but with hydrogen powered engines, which is slick

[@michaelsherman1018]

Can now discuss with same ‘clarity’ the manufacturing of batteries your perfect electric vehicles run on?!

[@georgeb5262]

Well, If you keep them enough long, it's better (still needs highly improvement). The problem is the people who trash them out long before it is needed.

[@AlphaHorst]

@@georgeb5262 I am not sure if he is talking about modern batteries or the old ones in those eraly EV`s. Also a battery change in a car is a major undertaking, where you as the user normally don`t get a say in when it happens.

[@georgeb5262]

@@AlphaHorst Modern EV's batteries also damage the environment, but much less and the technology can improve. But I got your point.

[@JavierBrent]

Norway and most Euro Countries gas prices are like from 6 to 8 DOLLARS PER GALLON equivalent. Of course they like EV's more than 3$ a gallon USA.

[@HubbHubbs]

Just boils down to purchase price, and range.

[@MrBeugh]

GM lost 10s of thousands of dollars for every EV-1 they leased. Nissans Altara EV batteries cost $350,000 per vehicle!

[@Tore_Lund]

The EV-1 had 550 kg of either lead-acid or Ni-Cd batteries. If you put the same mass of Li-ion batteries into one today, it would have a range of more than 500 miles.

[@RBodge1234]

The petroleum companies colluded to eliminate the electric vehicle which they saw as a threat to their business model. 20 years ago a Chicago museum had one of these 120 year old electric cars on display and it had a story posted along with it stating how the electric car company was eliminated by one of the oil/gas companies. Just like how they got rid of the EV1 electric car. You should look into this. Its like how the tobacco industry work so hard to keep everyone smoking.

[@winstons1806]

Rockefeller was the person trying to increase demand for Petrol. Rockefeller also tried to stop Diesel engines being developed and produced.

[@Jerry-tg2lj]

I really hope one day we can one day have sustainable internal combustion engine powerd cars for enthusiasts and motorsports, with the advent of synthetic fuels and reduction of omissions from other industries, the dream of enjoying our favorite cars whilst not hurting the environment could be a reality

[@arcturus9366]

Once you drive an electric car you will not want to go back, driving an engine with a ton of moving parts, unnecessarily loud engine and fuels that take electricity to refine, when you could just run a car on basic electricity and a way to store that electricity in a battery. The technology is improving fast and most high priced gasoline cars are already obsolete. What is causing this is obvious. Driving a fuel car just isn't enjoyable and the arrangement of parts and how many there are is also outright dangerous to both the user and the environment around it.

[@dylanlegacyb4rsk903]

@@arcturus9366 i am goinig to keep my race car i have driven electric and it is realy boring but also very fast but its just not the same

[@theodorehaskins3756]

@@dylanlegacyb4rsk903 Do you wear a mask?

[@muhammadnajmimurindo9289]

@@arcturus9366 Why so many techs have to be Electrics ??

[@muhammadnajmimurindo9289]

You can ask that type of Question to Porsche and Siemens, they know the best ...

[@jamesford2942]

The main problem is that it is so expensive. Without the "government" subsidies which is just taxing everyone to pay for this. If it was viable it would stand on it's own. The environmental impact and costs involved with making batteries and their subsequent disposal is not mentioned. Government did not create the gas station infrastructure, that was done by private industry to fill a need. As electric cars become more popular and prevalent the the market will build chargers, in the meantime it will be like the early internal combustion engine before gas stations and buying gas by the quart at the local store. Just like all this other "Green Energy" there are down sides that are swept under the rug and the rug is looking like it's covering a mountain. When you can't build something that stands on it's own without taxing everyone to death there is a problem.

[@hardeslaper]

good points. But don't forget that gas is also heavily subsidized by tax money, much more so in fact than electric. One thing that really bothers me about EV subsidies though, is that right now they're still only affordable to rich people. They are reaping the benefits of driving electric, even paying less tax for their car (at least here in The Netherlands where I live, not sure about the U.S.) - heck, they don't even pay for the electricity if it's a Tesla, as they provide free charging at their stations. It's part of the price of the car. So costs are getting lower for people who have enough money to not need that. While people with less money still pay taxes to allow that. And with the current rise in gas prices, that difference becomes even bigger.

[@Fiatmannen1]

As long as u have to wait 30 minutes or more for a full "tank" it will never work.

[@Luka_3D]

I mean on one hand you need to wait 30 minutes but on the other hand you're saving money because electricity is cheap or even free in some places and you also get a chance to go for a coffee, walk or take a short nap. Truckers regularly have to stop anyway. Driving an electric truck really wouldn't have changed their schedule much.

[@Fiatmannen1]

@@Luka_3D have never wanted to take a nap while fuelling. Saving money when the car is 4 times the money of a ice car I dont see any savings on the horizon

[@richardcampbell7903]

So much bias..... I love the irony of CA mandating electric cars when they require rolling black outs just to cover the electric demands of today. 10 million electric cars charging at the same time isn't going to work.

[@andyk5572]

Not quite - there is plenty of spare electric capacity overnight. In many places there are electricity tariffs that charge you less to use it then - it makes sense that the market encourages this. Also it's some of the greenest power around as only the most efficient (due to low demand) power stations are running at that time.

[@MsPoliteRants]

You didn’t bring up HOW electric cars are charged though. It’s great where there is geothermal electricity to charge them. But in the US, you’re likely charging the car with coal or gas.

[@MDP1702]

19% of the grid is coal-powered in the US and 40% natural gas. In the US both EV's running on coal and natural gas generated electricity are cleaner than ICE cars (on average). In the EU coal powered EV's are not cleaner, but gas-powered EV's are (slightly).

[@hjeffwallace]

Every continent has geothermal potential.

[@andrewallen9993]

They burn coal and uranium to fuel electric cars mostly!

[@MDP1702]

@@andrewallen9993 So clearly you haven't read my response. 19% of the US grid is coal-powered and 19% nuclear-powered, which means your statement is factually incorrect. In the EU Nuclear + Coal also makes up less than 50% of the grid. Worldwide the two combined accounted for around 47% of electricity production. So no matter on what level, you are wrong when saying those two fuel electric cars mostly. And the % of coal will be ever decreasing from now on, nuclear is more difficult to say, though in the west it for now isn't looking promising for nuclear.

[@andrewallen9993]

@@MDP1702 But if you include gas then I am correct.

[@drsprof6295]

where is the electricity for these cars coming from? Yes, mostly from fossil fuels.

[@kieranbrookes3487]

For me the prospect of electric powered public transport seems a great solution. People will be owning less cars and what we will be using for transport will be using electricity not fossil fuels

[@Lennard222]

When you encounter a person who isn't against climate change tell them that it's actually more environmentally friendly to drive their already existing car instead of buying a new one. There are so many people who just fear that they'll have to buy an electric car or use the currently bad public transit.

[@Jcewazhere]

If they own their new EV more than a few years then it is cleaner to replace their ICE car, even with a fresh from the assembly line EV. However you're ignoring the used EV market. Replacing their old fossil burner with a slightly used electric car is a huge improvement in their carbon footprint. I replaced my '93 Impreza with a 2017 Bolt. The Bolt costs about a third per mile, has 0 maintenance, and has almost double the torque and horsepower.

[@_asphobelle6887]

@@Jcewazhere Except you don't take into account the emissions and pollution generated by both destroying your old car and producing the new one. When you consider that, it IS actually more environmentally friendly to keep your old car, even an ICE one, as long as it is working, before switching to a new one.

[@Jcewazhere]

@@_asphobelle6887 TDLR: Citation needed. That Subaru got roughly 20mpg. That means every mile I was putting 20lbs of CO2 into the air. Now I charge mostly off of wind and solar and I get roughly 140mpge so I put out almost no CO2 per mile. That will only get better over time as more coal and gas plants are replaced with less polluting sources. The Bolt was used so no additional CO2 from manufacturing was released. The Subaru can sit in a lot until it's recycled to make a new car or can or swing set or whatever instead of mining new steel and aluminum. Watch "Are Electric Cars Worse For The Environment? Myth Busted" by Engineering Explained. Or read "When to replace a product to decrease environmental impact?-a consequential LCA framework and case study on car replacement" from the International Journal of Life Cycle Assessment. Or watch "EV vs Gas, what pollutes more" by GasTroll. Or find your own reports in google scholar or other journals. Even building a new EV to replace an ICE car is worth it in CO2 costs if that EV will drive more than ~25k miles. Go read the reports and studies for yourself. Until then stop spreading FUD like some paid fossil fuel shill.

[@RealestUrbanism]

@@_asphobelle6887 Wrong. Firstly, old cars are rarely destroyed unless they are already wrecked. Usually they are just sold to someone who needs it, or parted out to keep other old cars running. Secondly, old cars are terrible for the environment compared to new EVs. Emissions from setting gallons upon gallons of gas on fire quickly adds up, far exceeding the cost of building a new car Lastly, new cars are simply safer for both the occupants and other road users. If you get in a fatal crash, the removal of the victim's carbon footprint would be very good for the environment.

[@giacomoneri1782]

​@@RealestUrbanism Cars made 20 years ago had pretty much the same emissions and safety standards as the new ones, just less electronic toys. Also, if you have to sell it and keep it on the road, you can save the hassle and the money and keep the old one.

[@erichoffman1589]

We need Trump back in office. The electric car is a flawed design and has no future

[@saragoucha5244]

How exactly does the money support you?

[@Ian-of9oi]

I’m a car buff. The reason electric lost out in the beginning was because internal combustion vehicles improved and were preferred.

[@popinmo]

?? That dosnt make sense this video just told you why

[@popinmo]

?? That dosnt make sense this video just told you why

[@Ian-of9oi]

@@popinmo I watched the video again. Looks like In 1908 electric cars were a little better then gas. In 1912 cars began to be available with electric starters. You could blame the government for not making a charging grid but at the time gas cars were an easy personal transportation solution. Gas cars kept getting better and better until people became concerned with emissions. Battery technology has came along way in the last 25 years. Now electric cars are capable of being a personal transportation alternative. I still stand by my previous comment.

[@bondgabebond4907]

@@popinmo : This is a very slanted presentation. Listen to the spoken words and it becomes obvious.

[@popinmo]

@@bondgabebond4907 what????

[@jackuzi8252]

There is an alternative to electric cars. "Electrofuel" can be made from hydrogen (created by splitting seawater) and carbon dioxide (from the atmosphere, or industrial exhaust). It's the planned path forward for aviation (because it's carbon-neutral if renewable/nuclear energy is used). It could be a drop-in replacement for cars also--currently quite expensive but costs will likely come down as scale increases.

[@donfarlan214]

they had no way to charge batterys homes didnt have electricity yet porsche had generators instead of batteries and wheel hub electric motors

[@RacerX888]

Yes, they did, and you could charge them from your house outlet. An electric car drove over a week and went across the country on a single charge during one test in the early 1900's. All videos that showed this on YT are already taken down.

[@Dirk_Taggesell]

They did - at least the people who could afford to buy or rent a car. Maybe not the hoi polloi but they couldn't afford a car anyway.

[@OnaSoto]

when electric cars become affordable in 3rd world countries, i’m sure within 15 years all gas cars will be gone.

[@robertwalley6692]

There is 199 miles between Memphis Tenn. and Jackson Ms, that is using I-55 I believe, putting in charging stations will be a large task. The other problem is I can fill up a car with gas faster than I can charge one, and we have yet to get to how far each can take you as I leave off there.

[@sgfx]

3:14 Ford exploited his workers??? In 1904 the average wage in the U.S. was 22 cents an hour and a workday was usually at least 12 hours 6 days a week. So the average day's work would bring you $2.64. Ford, on the other hand, paid factory workers $5 a day and eventually instituted the 8 hour work day and 5 days a workweek, this insured more men had an opportunity to work. Ford also said: “It is high time to rid ourselves of the notion that leisure for workmen is either ‘lost time’ or a class privilege.” He also helped usher in the use of vacations. He demanded a lot from his workers, and as you can imagine not living up to the requirements, a person was easy to replace by the 100 guys standing in line for his well-paying job. Later on there were some labor issues when Ford resisted unionize as it was seen as an ploy to undermine Ford corporation by outside forces, and it was. The Unions then where more about power and control by its leadership, than to help there members.

[@alexanderishere6205]

Just because they got paid dose not mean they weren’t exploited

[@sgfx]

@@alexanderishere6205 you obviously do not understand the definition of exploited.

[@madeinfoxtrap5539]

Paradox: electric cars are not even able to be made without the fossil fuel industry. Hmmm

[@theodorehaskins3756]

For now, but that may not hold true in the future! Remember what Tesla‘s mission is about & that is to accelerate the world into a more sustainable energy future! So they never said they could do it alone & they never said that the future would be 100% renewables, that’s the goal & the mission, as no one knows how long that will take, so we better get started, because while 2050 may seem like a long way off if you’re 2 years old, but it’s a short time away if you’re 50!

[@madeinfoxtrap5539]

@@theodorehaskins3756 ahh yes predicting the future, the most noble and concise science. Do you also have the next winning lottery numbers ???

[@blicksum4]

@@madeinfoxtrap5539 you believe we're gonna be using fossil fuels forever?

[@madeinfoxtrap5539]

@@blicksum4 as long as they want to manufacture electric cars the fossil fuel industry is essential Research the manufacturing techniques necessary to produce all the components. You may be surprised.

[@NaumRusomarov]

not really a paradox. the fact that you need hydrocarbons for plastics does not invalidate the fact that we need to stop using fossil fuels as an energy source. it's not even "Hmmm" interesting.

[@mattparker9726]

1:03 BECAUSE GAS DOESN'T NEED OVERNIGHT TO RECHARGE.

[@evanisashark1596]

Video on carbon neutral synthetic fuels please? I apologize if I missed it if there is one, but I think it would be very interesting

[@cultofape1000]

I bet the ICE car had way more range, though. Important nuance needed...

[@wierdsmabob]

What about long distance travel such as visiting my in laws about 240 km. away? I'd hate to run out of juice halfway through and having to motel it overnight until the car would get re-charged.

[@Donmud]

Could have swore Norway’s stunt to subsidize Evs cost them dearly . Last I checked it would take 18 years for them to re coupe that money

[@AlphaHorst]

18years is no time in government spending terms. If you get your investment back after 50years it can be considered to have happened in "a timely manner" so 18 years of wait for money, to basically kickstart an entire industry is not much.

[@swaminathanj5110]

Wow vid already?

[@OurChangingClimate]

You know it!

[@bill3641]

Norway was able to built the infrastructure to support the heavily subsidized EV fleet likely because it's so small ( the US is 30 times larger ) .

[@jimburris]

Even now, we can’t provide the “clean” power to replace ICE cars, not to mention range and charging issues.

[@Apjooz]

Wind and solar installed last year can power 150 million electric cars.

[@jenniferwise8515]

There are now companies that recycle lithium batteries.

[@Cheesus4jesus]

Besides the mining involved, there's the issue of how we generate clean electricity to fuel these cars?