Outlast On Netflix Was A Horrible Survival Show

[@hungryguyonabicycle]

👋🏽 Javier here ✊🏽 Brian and I were definitely the strongest team out there and everyone could see that. Our cabin was pretty big... I cut down 27 trees to make it. Also of all the teams it seems like Brian and I were eating the best. We weren't starving like the other teams. We were crushing like two to three pounds each of mussels every day. I was making herbal teas and we were sleeping good. The problem started with Jill and Paul getting into Brian's head. The show wasn't able to properly show how Brian got tricked. Jill and Paul laid the seeds of doubt in Brian's mind and he just went spiraling out of control with it. If Brian didn't leave... We would have likely witnessed Dawn and Joel joining Bravo and we would have been the dominate force with the most experienced people out there.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Woah the real Javier is here?! I loved you in the game man. You played with honor and integrity, and you definitely would have joined up with Delta and won if those players hadn't left. Honestly if there wasn't the rule that you had to be on a team with other people to stay in the game I know you would have continued to play as a solo player and made it to the end. 27 trees cut down to make the shelter? That's amazing and I really liked how your shelter looked by your final episode. You could tell that you guys were in it for the long haul..that was until what happened with Brian. I was sad to see him go and I knew that put you in a very difficult position. Wish the combined forces of Bravo and Delta had been able to come together, but they had enough by that point and I can understand why they left. Sucked big time for you and I was gutted even more when charlie didn't take you on as a team member. Almost turned the show off when you shot off your flare. The only redeeming thing is that alpha lost in the end which is completely what they deserved. Thanks for playing and being on my tv screen, and I hope you get a second chance on another season of this show or another survival show. You are the real winner in my eyes ! 🏆

[@kaisah8994]

I just finished watching the show and i just wanna say Im your biggest fan and I was rooting for you and brian!!

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@kaisah8994Javier needs a second chance! Heck even get the man his own survival show.

[@MissTeeFied]

I didn’t know what this show was. I though maybe its a bit like “Alone’…but OMGawwwwd…nothing like it. I just watched those dirty players Jill and Amber cause Javier to ‘flare’ I am so so angry, that this so called ‘competition’ to Outlast…it was nothing but low nasty cheating. By stealing you are not outlasting. Javier such a wonderful spirit,crushed by foul play. No fame or popularity for the bad players. Javier needs to go on a proper survival show that builds character in our children….no child should watch Outlast as what is it teaching them? How to be a thief, fight dirty, be the bully…..so so sad..

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@MissTeeFied100% it's not outlasting the way they did it. They had to resort to petty theft and sabotage to be able to progress in the game. They did Javier, B team, and D team dirty.

[@SSK548]

When Javier burned his shelter, so they couldn’t raid it….best part of the show. He wanted so badly to just stay in the game, but everyone was too scared of backlash from the demons.

[@blackfrancis55]

Fake.

[@Ra4758]

The guys were too soft and weak. Even at the end they could've kept Justin and dominate the 2 witches but those guys were too worried about their reputation. Then it gets even worse, the last team of guys chose the worse route for their race, they had to cross a bunch of oceans smh. If the girls didn't get lost they would've beat the guys in a blow out win. The men in this show were too soft and dumb

[@wisherevenshade4059]

@@Ra4758 completely agree. This show was infuriating for multiple reasons.

[@nike-ee3ir]

i dont get where charlie got the scared from team alpha, like ur literally stronger in numbers if u accept javier. they wudnt dare to mess with u. this prove that this show is faked and manipulated.

[@nike-ee3ir]

@@wisherevenshade4059 yeah 100%

[@smokeybandit2300]

What was also annoying about Jill and Amber was that at the end off the show they said they were the under dogs😂😂😂. Like no one was rooting for them. They raid Javier's camp and then celebrate when team C doesn't accept him and insult him. The worst of the worst for human beings.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Haha they weren't the underdogs. They were the bullies and villains in charge of the show, and they were looking down on the other contestants.

[@Argonikron]

Those are the type of people you would need guns for in an apocalyptic situation.

[@Quarthon]

and they had the nerve to write that note to Charlie talking about winning with integrity.

[@doracard8683]

What crock of shit was that? I thought the same thing! 😂😂🤣 They're crazy and evil bitches. But go figure, Amber's a felon 😂 I'm so happy they didn't win! Woohoo!

[@EagleFang48]

It’s because one of them was a victim of drug addiction. Apparently bad choices make you an underdog.

[@barazep_]

Javier is the real MVP of this show

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Javier deserves a second chance ! Even if it's on another survival show .

[@mikehooper8868]

Hes the million dollar man in most eyes he's a good lad

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@mikehooper8868I wish he had won instead of C team.

[@RobertMJohnson]

nope. Javier blows. "competition brings out the worst in people". when he said that, he became persona non grata to me.

[@bigbo672]

​​@@RobertMJohnson he is correct though, competition without rules or fair play does bring out the worst in people. Many studies have shown this to be for the most part true. I guess we know where you would be in such a situation.

[@claeswarningholbeck3742]

As a person who has participated in military survival training in the Arctic; This Netflixseries comes very close to show how important it is to both psychologically evaluate people and test them under pressure before sending them on missions. People with psychopathic or narcissistic tendensies can't hide their real self when they are pushed by things out of their control.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

It seems that no one was evaluated at all before they were sent out there.

[@wildchild3862]

​@@NotTheAverageGamerz these shows deliberately pick psychos to get the drama going. Jill for example is so clearly narcisistic and there is no way a personality test wouldnt have shown that. 100% certain she was picked for exactly that reason. She is a classic narcissist, vile and unscrupelous while all the time acting like she is the good one, taking no responsibility for her crimes.

[@thedarklord5573]

@@wildchild3862 100% facts

[@popoju9]

the Marines who flared out and quit gives marines a bad name.

[@traveltm]

@@popoju9really? I don’t agree. The first one older and just realized he wouldn’t make it to end. The other one passed out. I actually didn’t respect him. His arrogance lost the team the crab pots. So cocky did push ups and I cheered when he missed the island.

[@doug8466]

This whole show was strange to me. Playing dirty is one thing but I feel like everyone was just blatantly ignoring some obvious things. So A tribe was dirtbags the whole time and Jill is downright evil most of the show but acts like shes on a moral high ground the whole time. Time goes by and C wants Jill to join them (even though she's played dirty the whole time) and then doesnt go well. Then Justin joins C after leaving the toxic females only for them to send a little note to C saying that he cut up their tarp (which he did). C then decides to kick Justin out because he played dirty but the whole time they wanted to get Jill who had played dirty the entire time and is a borderline sociopath. Very strange show

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Yea Jill and Amber were complete hypocrites because they acted like they were in the right and that they had done nothing wrong. They also were upset when they lost and said something like " I thought the underdogs were supposed to win" lol you weren't underdogs. You were the villains ... The bullies. C kicking out Justin was weird as well. I guess they did it because they had an alliance will Jill and didn't want to upset the remaining alpha group. I agree 100% that it was a very odd show. Especially them wanting to recruit Jill after all she did.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@dimbledoreyea that's the most likely scenario. They didn't want to split the money with him and in the process still get in good favor with Alpha who don't like him now.

[@thedukeofno]

@@dimbledore I agree. Also, no one should underestimate or forget how duplicitous Paul was. After he joined Charlie, he seemed to pretend that he was on some moral high ground, when the fact is he left his teammates high and dry. I didn't want Jill and Amber to win, but I would have been OK if Paul tapped out in the march to the finish line.

[@hungryguyonabicycle]

YEAH... I'm glad you noticed that. How are you going to deny me to join your team... The guy who didn't do anything bad to anyone... But then immediately invite Jill the worst person on the show to your team? That moral high ground stuff was a joke. 🙄 They immediately took Justin who stole the sleeping bags and then had a moral crisis when they read Jill's note about some cut tarpaulins. They robbed me and cut my tarpaulins too... 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@hungryguyonabicycleyou didn't do anything bad to anyone, and it made me upset that C prevented you from joining them.. and they took in Paul who actually defected from his own group. All the moral high ground stuff made me mad too. Like no one from Alpha was a good person 😂. They kept saying that good prevails I'm like you are the most delusional people I've ever seen.

[@itzel6698]

Javier was hands down my favorite contestant, did not like how Charlie team could be willing accept two members the A team but would not accept Javier the worst moment for me was when Javier had burned his shelter and one of the woman said that they would have been lucky if Javier was in the burned shelter another very gross moment was when she also made Sly remarks when Javier was solo like she used the word "Uno" when she didn't use Spanish words with any of the other contestants

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Same here ! The guy would have won if he was still allowed to keep on playing. Too bad he was basically forced to leave the game by alpha.

[@Father_Brother_Son]

I totally agree! You know what it was? He was too precious for that world. 🥺 the scorched earth with his shelter was pretty cool! I wouldn’t have thought to do that, but it was great! And yeah, I bet her uneducated ass, calling “scapegoats” “escape goats” like she did probably is racist too.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@Father_Brother_SonJavier's ( bravo's) shelter was really cool and I'm glad he burned it to the ground so A couldn't use it or any of his supplies. Lol escape goats 🐐 😂😂 that's hilarious.

[@jasminetazz]

Yea I couldn’t stand her, that’s exactly why their evil selves didn’t win.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

@@jasminetazz I couldn't stand any of the people on Alpha group and I'm so glad none of them won.

[@ArthurAlvarez432]

found it funny when they sabatoged the other peoples camps but when justin did it back to them they was all but hurt about it 😂

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Lol that part just showed how hypocritical they both were. They didn't like when other people treated them the way they treated both Delta and Bravo.

[@michaelmccoy1831]

Exactly. Saw a post from Jill online that she was looking for an apology from Justin saying he knows what he did was wrong. I am guessing that Jill and Amber have made a lot of other poor life decisions.

[@witchietaitai]

Funny???

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@witchietaitaifunny because they were hypocritical

[@witchietaitai]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz NOTHING about this show was funny. All of the contestants were depraved

[@dustyhess9967]

I’m happy to see everyone that watched hate jill and amber in the same way I did. Deep hatred for such bad people

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

The main thing is that they think they did nothing wrong, and still are saying that on their social media accounts. No apologies have been issued from anyone on alpha.

[@jvac1129]

​@@NotTheAverageGamerz What social media do they have? I looked 4 Jill on Instagram but didn't. Just wanted to see all the comments..

[@za5820]

1. I never had the same hatred of Amber as I did Jill. I'm kind of surprised so many people seem to hate them equally. 2. Am I the only person who really didn't like Paul? He wasn't as bad as Jill, for sure, no one was. But he cowardly ditches Joel and Dawn just to be a couple notches up on protein. Then he's got this mini crush on Jill and talking about her like she's a major asset to Charlie when shes a venomous hand grenade. It's a shame bc he seemed like a great dude when Jordan was in delta. Then when the going got tough, he immediately bailed and had all this talk about integrity and God. If I was on Charlie, I would have been keeping one eye open, day and night with that guy. 3. Glad Seth won. Seemed like a solid dude. Joel, Dawn and Javier got shafted. Brian too, but he should've set Javier up with delta before leaving.

[@jvac1129]

@@za5820 I'm gonna guess Amber's broken because of her past with drugs. Perhaps she broke all her bridges and has nobody close, so she just latched on to Jill to have a friend. I have a sister that's like that due to drugs, lying and stealing. Broke all her bridges and latches on to anyone that gives her any attention till she screws them over. Just guessing. I wasn't a fan of hers. I didn't really like anyone though. Nobody stuck out to really like. Horrible survival show.

[@za5820]

@@jvac1129 Joel seemed alright. Seth seemed alright. Dawn seemed okay too but we didn't really get to see what they'd do on their own since they got shafted so hard. Javier/Brian also seemed okay. I agree though, the only guy I liked in the beginning was Jordan and then he started pulling his mental stuff and being arrogant and I was disappointed. Then Paul abandons Delta. Then most of them got awful.

[@robmort91]

Javier was my pick from the beginning. I couldnt believe that A team stole necessary survival equipment from other survivalists. Jill crying over killing a squirrel but then happily let people suffer through the cold night was wild. And then Amber calling Javier a weak man while she was dismantling his raft when he was just trying to get her to stop it was insane. Im sorry I know its a game but it was about working together, not sabotage. Jill and Amber losing was the most redeeming thing of the show. Im glad Javier got his one wish where a good game prevailed over messy and spiteful gameplay.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I was so happy Jill and Amber didn't win. What they did to the other camps was deplorable. Is it too much to ask to treat others as you would like to be treated ?

[@morgan_all_thatz_good4750]

exactly - I was so glad that they didn't win.

[@stopspotburning6841]

This is on point. I couldn’t believe that psycho jill was crying over a squirrel after being such a bad person……like you’re the biggest hypocrite in the world.

[@Ryder_OMEGA]

Javier was definitely in another level in episode 1. But those young kids quit because they didn't want to be lead or work there weight.

[@CSRT123]

wait amber's the bitch who was a drug addict and got shot by her boyfriend right? yeah her low class shows.

[@lexinicole4317]

The lack of rules in this show astounded me. So where DO we draw the line? Javier couldn’t physically touch the women destroying his shelter and raft, nor retrieve his items… can we also steal people’s clothes and throw them into the river? Burn their shelters down with them inside? Bodyguard the sources of fresh water so they die of dehydration? If the only rule is we “can’t touch” each other, but stealing sleeping bags and letting someone potentially die of exposure is fine, it really seemed much more dangerous than it already was.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Exactly. At what point is too far if there really are no rules. For example in a show on MTV called stranded with a million dollars it got nasty like this and one contestant pooped in the communal water supply to try and get the other contestants sick so that they will quit.

[@witchietaitai]

This show made me sick to my stomach. I had to stop watching after Paul 's betrayal of his teammates and the theft of the sleeping bags. This is not a survival show in the manner of Alone. What a bunch of disgusting asswipes. Shame on Netflix for airing this garbage

[@B3damn]

I think the lack of rules was the best part. Thats how you see the real people behind the mask. This explains why human race created wars. It was painful to watch how greedy people act and think but it also made us know people like Javier amd Bravo who are the real examples of who we should aspire to be.

[@blackfrancis55]

It was fake.

[@markhill8150]

It was a huge flaw in the show that there was no rule set that stopped people from destroying and stealing peoples things. Especially when they are standing right their like Javier was. In a no camera situation it would be instant hands but you could not do that on TV. It almost ruined the show for me.

[@ytkimberly4629]

I've never been so disgusted in two players participating in a competition as Jill and Amber, Justin wasn't much better. I'm so glad they didn't win. I am absolutely thrilled they didn't win!

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Oh me too. I was on the edge of my seat hoping that Charlie team would win and I'm so happy they did. Alpha got what they deserved!

[@mary-janereallynotsarah684]

Yeah I was not as much rooting for Charlie as I just wanted Alpha to lose. Charlie sucked too.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@mary-janereallynotsarah684still I would choose charlie to win any day over Alpha and I'm just glad Jill and Amber didn't get any of the prize money 😂

[@Paxtiny]

I think everyone watching this was hoping for Jill and Amber to get mauled by a grizzly bear.

[@bobbydigital4961]

They should have carried them out to the river, throw em in, put out their fire, and take the sleeping bags back.

[@shannonmcnamara5343]

I was so happy when Jill didn’t win

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Hahaha me too !! The fact they called themselves underdogs too was just hilarious.

[@MissTeeFied]

Ditto…I loved that Karma did its job. The Universe had already left the party LOL. Underdogs my a**

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@MissTeeFiedkarma definitely got them and now they have disabled all comments on their social medias because of backlash lol.

[@MissTeeFied]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz some people never think through their actions, how they thought that no one would ostracise them and be on their side with a pat on the back of ‘gee, ya played that game well’ is simply mind blowing. Every action haas a reaction and so the backlash begins. Ya make ya bed, now lie in it! LMAO

[@ChibiViolin]

​@@NotTheAverageGamerz It was fascinating how they we're able to rationalise there abhorrent actions even going far as to frame Javier as some kind of inhuman villain in their minds. It shows how easy it was for a thing like the holocaust to take place.

[@brothabernard2180]

I felt bad for Brian the old man just wanted to prove he could survive not treat people like 💩 Good for him for sticking to his morals

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I'm glad he left when he did because it got so much worse after that.

[@melissak8892]

​@@NotTheAverageGamerz he knew it could only devolve from there

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

@@melissak8892 he definitely didn't want any part of it and I don't blame him .

[@lisaakamommy1287]

Definitely! If it was strictly about survival he could've made it

[@jusone4271]

​@@lisaakamommy1287 Yeah. I felt bad for Javier and Brian. I can't believe this Jill lady out here now claiming she's really a good person and was painted the wrong way. Shes a disgusting human being. That whole team was trash.

[@vitopasquu1883]

Javier should have burned Jill's and the heroin addict's camp and then quit the show. But maybe the show is scripted and he couldn't do that. The all guys team were so scared to pissed Jill off that they had to agree to let Joel go, however, it was a good decision, that dude was not trustworthy at all.

[@lmss3309]

Really frustrated with those weak arse people quitting instead of fighting them back…. Jill and amber will always win against weak people like that even in real life.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@lmss3309I wish D team had actually hooked up with Javier and fought back.

[@mikehooper8868]

Agreed 100 percent

[@mary-janereallynotsarah684]

Not Joel, Justin. But yeah. Charlie team were afraid of Jill which is funny. They had no moral high ground so why not go sabotage Jill and Amber? They wanted to look on TV.

[@Ichmochtekunst]

​@@lmss3309 being loud, aggressive, a cheat, you will almost always get further ahead in life. It's the sad truth

[@WinterMan.]

Javier was my favourite, he kept getting ditched from the start by weak people. 2 men left him, then his close team mate Brian who was a decent guy, after the 2 from another team didn't join him, then he gets refused by the 3 guys. Absolutely awful man. I wanted Javier to win so bad. He's a very resilient, honourable, skilled man and he has my respect.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I wish Javier could have stayed because I know he would of won if he had gotten to the end.

[@WinterMan.]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz me too bro

[@Dante12394]

Yeah I thought that team bravo would win because they had all guys but I guess I was wrong

[@Noisemansoundinsect]

Those two girls were so disgusting to me. Angie was 10 times a better woman than them.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Agree 100% sucks she had to leave because she hasn't pooped in 24 days.

[@ChibiViolin]

She definitely was NOT. She thought Alpha stealing the sleeping bags was a good idea and laughed about it. If she was on team Alpha she would have been all for it.

[@gogoldude]

@@ChibiViolin facts

[@johnappleseed9290]

Dawn was literally the only woman on that show that wasn’t corrupted.

[@erfansvideos]

Angie = Angel Jill = Kill

[@sandraidenburg4611]

At first I liked the series to see the survival skills. It was really interesting to see them make fire, building shelters and rafts, go fishing, crab hunting, archery. It was a real joy to see exceptionally talented people survive in a beautiful but extreme landscape. But then there was a very dark twist caused by the psychopaths Jill and Amber. They were pure evil. Stealing the sleeping bags from team Delta whike it was freezing at night, risking to cause them hypothermia or freezing their limbs off. Then destroying the raft from Javier and wanting to destroy his shelter. Jill saying “she wants to cut the competitors troats”. What an evil hyena’s. I don’t understand why the producers did not stop these demons, as Dawn and Joel could have gotten injured for life.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

The producers should have disqualified Alpha for what they did. It's completely abhorrent to steal someones supplies and sleeping bags when it's so cold 🥶 out in Alaska. They also did terrible things to Javier and I just couldn't believe what I was watching .

[@nittayaklongrau9434]

I agree i thought wow this gonna be great fpr skill of surviving but not is drama and evil not really right. Please change producer

[@Argonikron]

@@nittayaklongrau9434 I agree that team alpha was disgusting but they showed what would happen in an apocalyptic situation where people would steal and destroy your stuff.

[@eddiechongtham9365]

​@@Argonikron if you are talking real apocalyptic situation, it would involve killing too. Until that it is not close to real.

[@Trikormadeinadon]

Yeah, but in an apocalyptic situation Javier would have been allowed the physically attack the women but he couldn't do that on the show. And in an apocalyptic situation I don't think Javier would have been passive...or he if he was he would just be dead rather than robbed.

[@jimmay1988]

The producers are willing to step in when constipation was life-threatening, but they couldn't provide spare sleeping bags when 2 were stolen before freezing nights?!

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Yea completely bs. Should have given them some spare sleeping bags or blankets or something.

[@MidVicious44]

Right! So dangerous to their health. Even Joel continued knowing he was seeing black spots.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@MidVicious44I was so upset for them and then they quit the game about 3 days later after saying " this isn't the game we signed up to play" and I don't blame them at all for that. Must have been so miserable without those sleeping bags.

[@sportsbettingeducation]

The contestants can always quit if it’s too cold. Haha

[@Supre3m3Kai]

That was a medical emergency. Its not the same.

[@CorDharel]

Jill is the biggest psychopath ever. When Javiers camp was burning she said something like „is he still inside? I wish he was!“ wtf??

[@magnanova]

Team Charlie were dishonest in kicking Justin out after inviting Jill. They just wanted to split the money fewer ways so they screwed over Justin. Jill's behavior & attitude was disgusting tho. Javier deserves the win most. I feel for the others who tapped out when Alpha played dirty.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Yea I think they just wanted another Alpha member out so they kicked Justin out. Oh well I'm just happy no one from Alpha won. Javier 100% deserved the win. I hope he gets on the 2nd season of this show, but with much more strict rules or on another survival show.

[@AndrewBrowner]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz he kind of just accepted that, they specified people couldnt be voted out which to me meant once they let him on their team they didnt have a choice to just kick him off

[@pokemontas8025]

Team Charlie also let in a traitor that screwed his original team.

[@azm.6947]

yeah obviously. Who wouldn't kick him out given the opportunity to blame it on something else like "molar high ground". My ass. Just an opportunity for one less mouth to feed and one less person to split the money with.

[@jordyj4126]

@@pokemontas8025 well tbh he got betrayed first🤷‍♂️ not a traitor to me.

[@Updog89]

The sickest f*^% of all were the producers. I don’t know how they allowed people to steal each other’s sleeping bags and subject them to a risk of hypothermia that they didn’t consent to. Maybe if they had been honest with contestants up front that this was a possibility and let them choose whether or not to play that game it would have been ok, but they didn’t know what the rules (or lack thereof) of the game would be until they started playing.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

The producers are just as much to blame as Alpha because they let it happen. They could have told time they weren't allowed to sabotage the other camps... But no I'm sure they wanted the drama on the show because they probably thought it would get them more attention to the show.

[@Updog89]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz Agreed. It made me feel dirty as a viewer because I don’t want to support unethical or abusive production teams. If they have another season I probably won’t watch unless I can feel more comfortable knowing that the well-being of the contestants was properly respected, or at least did a better job letting them know what to expect during casting. They really shouldn’t have waited until the cameras started rolling to tell them it was ok to push people to quit by creating unsafe conditions for them. That’s not about surviving against nature, it’s about surviving behaviors that is literally criminal in outside of the TV context. I wonder if they have grounds to sue the producers for misrepresentation and harm.

[@infiniteightjon]

Netflix is desperate

[@melissak8892]

Very telling. I assume Jason Bateman is an awful person.

[@Supre3m3Kai]

They knew the rules. The rule is survival 😂. If they needed somebody to reiterate that, they could have asked the producers, just like they asked the producers for camp footage when they got their stuff stolen. Now, I do think they need to set up some more rules when it comes to camps, even know it's unrealistic in a game of survival, but everything else should be fair game.

[@Aaackermann]

I was friggin involved in this until they cut off Javier. I was imediatlly done. skipped forward a little, but had no desire to watch this shit evolving any more. Even if this isn't scripted, so were the producers in no way willing to stop cheating and honestly even damaging behaviour. And the attitude of these people was despicable to the core. No. Getting beaten up by the elements, fine. You quit, it's done. Nothing to be ashamed of. But to have to quit because someone plays nasty? Why on earth should I support this with my view! Have they won? Maybe. I will never know. This was horrible and utter trash human behaviour. Shame!

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Yea I was really involved in it too until Javier was forced out by Alpha team. It was satisfying though to see them lose though at the end to team Charlie 🤣. The producers should have stopped them from stealing and had a rule against it, but it seemed that they were more interested in the drama it brought instead of making an actual survival show.

[@Peoplemag]

Once Javier was kicked I just skipped to the last ten minutes of the show to see who won. Glad Jill’s bitch ass didn’t win.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@Peoplemagglad she didn't win either. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[@ToThePointReviews582]

This is the most scripted show on TV right now. Terrible acting. Constantly followed by a film crew.

[@Aaackermann]

@@ToThePointReviews582 Yes, true. But the message it delivers itself is despicable. I could not care less if a tv show is scripted or not. I want to be entertained. I also watch movies and am well aware that this is not true. But my enragement is purely towards the message it sends to viewers.

[@FAMDATING]

Just finished the end, Jill and Amber with there tears were so delusional to think they were the underdogs as evil as they both were! Wow. And these women are the ones they testify in court! Wow

[@hailo__art]

This show was honestly so uncomfortable to watch. To see the vial brutality and cruelness especially from Jill and amber was honestly nuts. They clearly show signs of paranoia, narcissistic tendencies, sociopathy and other. This was a survival show, about survival and it became a cesspool of horrible behavior. Javi and Brian honestly got screwed over. And Javier was such a genuinely good person that it hurt to watch at times. This show was terrible and part of me wish it didn't air, the other part of me knows it has and should just for the fact that awareness needs to be made about survival shows. Survival shows like this where people are pitted against each other usually turn into a nasty competition of manipulation, violence, cheating or otherwise damaging behaviors. It was just so frustrating and I feel like this comment is even sugarcoating it.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

It's production's fault for allowing it to happen in the first place and then even more so for allowing it to continue. There should have been rules against sabotaging the other camps.

[@hailo__art]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz definitely agree. I'm astonished production allowed it to go that far. There should've definitely been rules in place.

[@suraangel6956]

It was like a social experiment. As if the money wasn't even the point, it was just a tool to see how ugly people can be. Yeah they didn't win the money but Jill and Amber passed that with flying colors.

[@_Gon_Gon_]

I feel so bad for Javier. He is just too nice and his honor is what did him in. If I was in his shoes and I knew I was going to have to shoot my flare, I’m going over to destroy alpha’s camp first. Also Dawn and Joel (great people) got totally F over by Paul leaving them, and additionally, when Dawn and Joel quit it basically forced Javier to quit also. This show needs some more damn rules and those psychopathic demons from Alpha need to be incarcerated.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I was really disappointed when Joel and Dawn quit because it put Javier in a bad position. They should have moved Javier's stuff over to the delta camp, and just lasted together there. I kinda think Javier wanted to do something to alphas camp, but he is the better person and didn't do anything. That must have taken a lot of restraint.

[@aspentravisaspen2160]

Stupid show real survivalist gets fcked up..

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@tyler_c4282they could have gotten hypothermia overnight without those sleeping bags. Taking them was no joke. Forcing someone to freeze all night long is just horrible and they should be ashamed of their actions. I wonder what their families think of them.

[@Paxtiny]

Why would they think it was a good idea to move their camp right next to the snake pit?!

[@philipiya1]

Amber was a felon and a heron user!

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Outlast really shows how greedy people can be, and how far they will go to win money. Literally stealing sleeping bags and survival gear to try and force someone to leave is horrible. The D team could have gotten hypothermia overnight.

[@Isaac8_13]

There are also problems with the rules since they are so vague. Like what’s stopping you from just forcing your way into someone’s camp and looting and burning everything since no one can physically harm you.

[@hussainfreeman4541]

Like lord of the fly adult version

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@Isaac8_13yea the rules definitely needed to be specific about what they can and can't do.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@hussainfreeman4541if you have ever seen MTV's stranded with a million dollars it reminds me of that. Awful people doing horrible things to other people.

[@TheDollyce]

Jill and Amber are not right in the head. Normal human beings wouldn't think of stealing sleeping bags from neighboring campers, would not even say the words "I think we should BURN THEIR CAMP to the ground!" This show didn't vet the mental health of these people, especially Jill and Amber. Justin was their lackey, but he committed theft and potential manslaughter by stealing the sleeping bags for Jill and Amber. I think production never dreamed they'd need to say in the Rules: No hitting. No killing. No stealing. No sexual assault. No biting. No arson. No plundering. No pillaging. BUT I GUESS when you're hiring psychopaths who have no human conscience, no empathy, no soul.... You need to spell it all out. I hated this show at Ep 4 when the psychopaths started plotting their crimes against their fellows. I went straight to the last 5 minutes of the last episode to see who won! SO HAPPY for Charlie Team! And so glad the bitches lost not only the "contest" but their dignity and reputations as well. It's out there for all to see how terrible these two women are. It's like toothpaste, ladies, once you've squeezed out too much, you can't put it back. But I know, psychos will never get that.

[@kerrycampbell9083]

Lesser of two evil teams won.. C Team wouldn’t accept Javier. But they were cool with recruiting Jill and accepting Justin. And old dude (praying to God) betrayed D Team by going to C Team and then schemed with Jill to get B and D team to quit.

[@jeffreybrozoskie1639]

After a few episodes of watching this show I could not do it anymore. Those hoodlums that we're on the show should have been thrown off. Stop watching after episode 5. Not sure who won but I certainly hope it was not those scumbag women

[@fusion8623]

I've seen no one comment on it but, when they saw Javier's camp burning they legit said "if only we were so lucky he was in there" they smiled & laughed menacingly while pillaging.. Hypocrite psycopaths man lol. Dawn wanted to steal first so I guess that was karma (which maybe it's why they were targeted?) What happened to the crab fishing that seemed to just die? Did they stop catching them or just not wanting to go out anymore. / why did no one improve their boats over time?

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Yea I remember them saying that they hoped Javier was in the fire. Just an awful thing to say about someone.

[@denisemilfort4581]

Those two women are on the psychopath spectrum. I'm not saying it to be mean, but their actions and the fact that they're crying and calling themselves the underdog, shows the lack of empathy. They are not like the rest of us, you can clearly see in most of the comments how disgusted people were by their behavior. You can also see how much support Javier has, so my faith in humanity restored. If they won I would have had to cancel my Netflix at least for a couple of months in protest. I blame the producers for this entire ridiculous charade! The show is a reflection of themselves, allowing two people to freeze all night because you set up terrible rules for a show, wth?

[@piiinkDeluxe]

Maybe it got too cold for crabs?

[@cosmicfeargarou3794]

I like how at the end Amber is crying saying “aren’t the underdogs supposed to win” had me laughing 😂😂😂😂 you guys were never the underdogs you guys were just playing dirty to try and win ofc karma bit them in the ass I have no respect for them and the fact amber called Javier you what during the boat situation nah bruh she deserves that lost and I’m glad you two don’t ever deserve that win 😂😂😂😂😂 Then Jill over talking about “loyalty” and that don’t lose faith me type crap biggest hypocrite out there the only reason she stayed was bc Angie’s flare went off so 😂😂😂 biggest hypocrite of the show, Charlie team deserved that win more then anything 🎉🎉🎉🎉 P.S. if anyone actually feels bad for alpha team then your just a different breed or something cause don’t get me wrong there is no rules of you can’t sabotage but everyone came here to play fair. Out there is some serious weather so you potentially stealing or sabotaging can result in them getting hypothermia or getting really sick the next day

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Hahaha I laughed so hard when I heard them say they were the underdogs 😂 they were the bullies on top, and Bravo/Delta were the underdogs. I am so glad Alpha did not win at the end as I had zero respect for the game they played. They went beyond villainry when they tried to make Delta freeze to death. Absolutely vile behavior. Anyone defending them is a joke .

[@Ryder_OMEGA]

Not only that team Alpha fail started making racist jokes after Javier burned down his camp and left. But you know what they say, Kamrma isn't a bicth it's a mirror.

[@robertmarlow4272]

Karma delivers

[@skettlez9732]

Javier was awesome. I felt awful when they started sabotaging all of his stuff.

[@AlienIntervention1137]

The series went from survival to criminal vile very quickly producer's you cheated us .

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Production just let it all happen. It's sickening 😡

[@Maria-xt1hh]

The part where Jill found Javier’s campsite burned down and said that she hoped he was still in there disgusted me. Same thing when she said “that horrible man” in reference to him. Absolute sociopaths who have no self-awareness. Cowardly as well. The part where Javier was talking to Jill as she was trying to steal from his camp and she was denying what he said about her being cowardly showed that. Absolutely insane and I wish Javier and Brian the best, they went out in the most honorable way. Their family should be proud of them. I wonder how outlast managed to get so many cowardly people on one show together? Disappointing to see and I hope as a 16 year old that this isn’t normal behavior

[@MrsTreehouse]

Netflix was checking if the audience is ready for a real Hunger game. I'm glad that the series received so much criticism.

[@lisacoulter2999]

Did anyone else think that when team Charlie accepted Justin, then kicked him out apparently because of the note, it was really because they realised they’d have to split the $1,000,000 between 4 instead of 3? They were more than happy to accept Justin as team Charlie when they were purely thinking of getting revenge on the girls. I think they realised he was another mouth to feed and that they’d have to split the prize 4 ways, so the note provided a good reason to kick him out. I really don’t think they cared at all that he destroyed their tarp/shelter. Initially, they even said that they didn’t believe the women, then all of a sudden they said it’s going too far? I don’t believe the boys for one second. Charlie team were also willing to accept two members of Alpha, yet wouldn’t accept Javier. They were playing chess the whole time and it was so subtle that no one really noticed amongst the moral outrage of everything else going on.

[@meic7965]

I think it was because he did it right after he was going to that team. When Jill set those weird motives up she was on team alpha still. Justin was going to Charlie team before he destroyed there tarp. But who knows nowadays

[@ThatsNewWhy04]

I feel like the show would have been better if Alpha-Team didn't ruin The other survivalist camps then we could have seen a better survival series, not stealing to survive that's no skills. They need some decent Game rules.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Agree 💯%. Alpha camp really ruined the show with all the sabotaging they did. Production needed better rules in place.

[@piiinkDeluxe]

Jill defended their stealing because they were short on food and didn't know how long they'll last.. WELL, THEN MAYBE YOU WERE LOSING THE GAME AND COULDN'T ACCEPT IT lol she said it herself

[@RobinWilliams002]

Javier should have spent every second of his last day destroying Jill and her camp.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Probably, but he didn't want to stoop to their level.

[@ezzb]

If only I knew I would get so mad whit this show... Is this even real? How? When the alpha demons were trying to stop Javier by stealing and destroying his stuff.. i wanted to scream! He's an incredibly calm person

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Javier showed that he is a good man who didn't need to stoop down to their level. Wish there could have been something they could have done to stop Alpha from stealing/sabotaging... Oh wait production could have stopped it but they let it happen.

[@celestialsupernovas7909]

There is a a “hole” in their whole fighting honorably and with integrity talk, if they were all about integrity why did they want Jill on their team knowing that she steals from other teams to win, and also why did they wanna take her and then later on, Justin out of the other team so that they would become weaker and lose. That doesn’t sound like competing on the moral high ground. They kicked Justin out to not have to split the money. They were actually fighting dirty. They made the other team lose a member then tricked him into joining just to toss him aside. I didn’t have a good feeling about those guys either. They r just better at hiding their evil than amber and jill. The only person who deserved to win was Javier. His shelter was the best too

[@birdsdoingtheirownthing9966]

I liked the concept that this was a survival show similar to Survivor, expect that the main survival aspect was resisting to cold and hunger, instead of mosquitoes, hunger and the elimination process of Survivor. I was actually into it until production let all the bullying happen without repercussions. All the people with a moral compass had the right idea by quitting, as obviously the show wasn't about surviving anymore. It's a shame. I think the idea had potential, but the production and Alpha team ruined it.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Same here! I love survivor and was really enjoying it until like episode 5 or 6 when Javier left the game after all the sabotaging happened. It was pretty fun at first, and just sucks that some bad apples decided to try and force people off the show by basically cheating. Production should have made rules that it wasn't allowed or stepped in and stopped it.

[@jesswinter]

I will never understand why stealing was allowed. As Javier said, THAT IS CHEATING!!! And if it’s not cheating, then fighting people off needs to be allowed as well. Unfair otherwise. No direct sabotage should be allowed. This game would have been much better to watch and would have gone very differently. Also, I hated the ending. If it goes on for months, it goes on for months. Outlast should mean outlast. But maybe that’s just me🤷🏼‍♀️

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

The ending reminded me of MTV's the Challenge. If you have ever watched that show they usually have to do some long distance traveling as the final challenge. Also production is at fault for allowing the contestants to steal. They should have had more concrete rules.

[@AidnTheFurry]

the worst part about this show is that every rootable person gets eliminated by episode 6. i dont see a reason to finish watching the show after seeing Javier get eliminated for a shit ass reason

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

@@AidnTheFurry exactly. I didn't want to even finish it after Javier's exit.

[@nurinahubertina]

I recently watched 'Physical 100' a Korean competition among athletes, after which I watched 'Outlast'. The 2 shows couldn't be more opposite. Physical 100 was exceptional due to the respect of the athletes for each other. True sportsmanship and competition. Outlast is the complete opposite: instead of inspiring it left me with a dirty taste on humanity. Hope no-one will ever reproduce this type of show

[@denisemilfort4581]

Agreed, I never want to see garbage content like this, I genuinely feel like that was time completely wasted and not entertaining, just makes me feel terrible, I can't take enough showers to wash this show off of me, EW!

[@MidVicious44]

This season needs a reunion episode 😂 I want to know if Justin was really stealing food or if the Alpha team imploded because of Jill’s paranoia.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

All I know is that I read an interview which said that the cast all hate each other so we may never get an answer to that question lol.

[@datmatthiasnguyen174]

Jill is 100% delusional. I have seen Justins interview on youtube and he seems like a really cool guy. Wasnt nice what he did though but I think what Jill and Amber did was worse.

[@ilselieberthal8773]

Jill’s paranoia.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

@@ilselieberthal8773 Jill definitely was paranoid as well.

[@ttb719]

Jill was a sociopath I could tell immediatelly. She had all the treats of a sociopath. The other girl was just evil and following her steps.

[@michaellee2910]

Money brings out the worst in people. If the producers allowed the contestants to steal, then they might as well allow them to physically beat the crap out of each other to get to the prize money.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

That apparently was one of the only rules.. That you couldnt harm each other lol.

[@juliaarambula3153]

Agreed.

[@oreborn6348]

Javier was clearly the better survivalist, he got done so dirty 😔

[@nyxen07]

It’s so shitty cause Javier, Brian, Dawn and Joel just wanted to see if they’d be able to survive in Alaska for a challenge a competition to see whos strong enough and tough enough to survive together off of the wilderness but Alpha just had to be douches and ruin it for everyone by stealing and taunting like bro they came here to survive off of the wild not from your shit like why play dirty and they were so real for saying it wasn’t the game they signed up for

[@terriedupuy1625]

Watched this show at a friend's house. I HATED it. So much so I cancelled my Netflix.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Dang. Well Netflix has been cancelling alot of shows, and putting out not great content lol.

[@psychobillyma]

I debating cancelling mine too, I don't want to help promote deviate behavior and un-sportsman like conduct.

[@Serotonin_Senpai]

Charlie were just as gross as A, because they were trying to work with Jill and watched her do vile shit and we’re okay with it. Then when Justin tries to join them all of a sudden they were moral and we don’t do that here. There was alot of sociopathic and narcissistic ass people on this show. 10/10 hated it.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I think they told Justin they would take him at Charlie camp so they could force him off the show. More money in their pockets when they got to the end.

[@2ndGenBastArd]

When "contestants" Jill and Amber spend more time screwing people over than respecting the fact that they're living in a brutally harsh living environment that tells me that these "contestants" had alternative motives from day 1. Those "contestants" weren't a product of the show. They were already like that. Anyone that's dealt with addicts understands the sketchy, manipulative lengths that they'll go to get their fix. They may not be using anymore, but often the behaviors don't change. If they do another season, the producers better learn from this season, vet the players better and have some basic rules. Jill kept justifying her behavior by saying that there aren't any rules. Was she not present when the message was read aloud to everyone on day 1 about no lone wolf teams and having to work together to survive. That may include working with other teams for gaining valuable resources or merging teams at some point as others drop out. What a waste of a show.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

They definitely came in there with the intent to play dirty from the start. It just showed what their true colors were.

[@MK-651]

Javier was the real winner I instantly quit watching the show and gave it a thumbs down when he was forced to quit.... The creators of the show deserve terrible ratings for allowing attempt murder on their show.

[@abbs9497]

I have a hard time understanding why the producers didn’t see where this was going? Brian basically told them what was going to happen and they refused to turn it around. The show wasn’t bad up until ep 4 or 5, and I think they could have salvaged it. The show explicitly tells us multiple times that they can change rules by dropping a parachute, but they let the psychos carry on! Also I’m kinda glad Lee left early, he seemed like a nice guy and I wouldn’t want him to be associated with the rest of the horrible people at Alpha.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

The producers saw what was happening and purposely made basically no rules just to see what the contestants would do. They didn't think it would resort to what happened, but then they didn't stop it either. I think they loved the drama so they let it keep going in hope it would drive up their tv show ratings .

[@melissak8892]

We might as well bring back gladiator fighting. Our culture is headed for collapse. This was intentional.

[@jvac1129]

​@@NotTheAverageGamerz After Jill said, there was no law with everything she was doing especially with Javier. If she had said and done what she did with a more aggressive person we could of seen some violence.

[@lchamp7946]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz The producers are 100% to share blame for this. I can understand maybe getting surprised by the sleeping bags getting taken. But they didn’t correct it, nor did they step up and provide any rules to prevent sabotage from continuing. Producers should be replaced if Netflix can ever justify a season 2.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

@@lchamp7946 If they have a season 2 there definitely needs to be a rule change , and yea a different production team would help with that too.

[@Evoldog]

I had to stop watching after Javier left. There was just no point in caring who won after that.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I actually stopped watching for awhile myself, but only finished it to see who won.

[@biglid49]

Charlie team was in no way honourable. You can't be tut-tutting the morals of Alpha when Charlie: A) was fine with recruiting a traitor, even if it left a team short handed, B) applauded Paul taking Delta's crab pot so they couldn't get food, C) were perfectly willing to ally with Alpha to eliminate the other two teams, and D) wouldn't take Javier as they were (purportedly) afraid of Alpha. If someone sees bullying and they do nothing to stop it then they are part of the problem. Despite all this, they were still ok with pretending to have the moral high ground when they dismissed Justin... total and complete hypocrites.

[@tylerb7085]

Just finished watching this and would have been so pissed if A tribe won. Emotional manipulation is not survival. Plus did anyone else notice how staged the Javier situation was? Why wasn’t he allowed to protect his stuff or destroy A groups things?

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I kinda just think he just had a better moral compass and didn't want to stoop to that level. I really wish though that D had joined B, and then won the game. Would have been a much better ending .

[@pascalkempa8005]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz Yeah this and other moments made me think about how much of It may have been staged... He went to Charlie after burning his camp, to ask to join in order to destroy Alpha, but he could have had revenge (destroy the camp etc.) before tapping out.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@pascalkempa8005maybe 🤔 it was. If it's not though then alpha are absolutely terrible people.

[@davidbribiesca6361]

​@@NotTheAverageGamerzI know someone who was on C team and he said that A team were literal pieces of shit. It was not staged at all. They were truly horrible people

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@davidbribiesca6361all the people from A team that have social medias have turned off comments already lol. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

[@yourpapiii]

I find it hypocritical that Charlie initially had plans to take Jill in knowingly that she sabotaged Javier’s camp. But when Justin does it, it’s not okay. Found it weird but it’s fine. Just as long as the two she-devils didn’t win 💯

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

That was Soo hypocritical!

[@busolaakinyera2443]

Yes, 💯

[@cloudjolster1458]

I fully agree, this is kinda the worst Survival Shows i ever watched. Participants is only there for the money.

[@dixiechubb9891]

Amber and Jill are both abusive people. The way they treated Justin, constantly bashing him and then praising him when he did something they deemed “good”. Classic abusive behavior right there. Not to mention calling Javier a “week a** mf” while throwing a tantrum like a child. I would have preferred to see adults in this show not children who have no morals.

[@hoin3371]

I'm Korean and I just watch all episode I'm korean. some korea reality survival show also had similar problem like 'The Genius 2', 'Money Game'. Cheating, backstabbing, stealing..... but damm, 'Outlast' is the most 'INSANE'. Thanks for review lol

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I saw your post on Reddit! You're right this show was crazy.

[@dougm3037]

Horrible is right. Just another reason to avoid Netflix. 'The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' Pity contestants chose to pull the trigger rather than fight back. If they had that might have been a show worth watching.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Netflix puts out good shows and then cancels them. Then releases other garbage onto their platform.

[@SketchSensei0]

I don’t know the name of the woman I’m talking about but no one’s mentioned her in any videos, but every time she was on screen she was complaining about being told what to do by men and kept claiming they were saying she was just a woman who didn’t know what she was doing,hated her

[@natural4lifemiss]

This show made me so mad I just watched the last episode and was really glad those horrible people didn't win but this show was a mess!

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I almost stopped watching when Javier left, but just glad that team alpha got was what coming to them .. zero dollars 🤣

[@natural4lifemiss]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz Right those girls were absolutely disgusting!I'm all for a villian but not in this kind of setting and not like that!I kind of hope they have a redo of this show but with rules it could have been awesome!

[@pjk3854]

Im soo glad Jill and Amber did not win at the end, they where filthy cheaters with totally no sense of honour. I hated them so much, those two are dark creatures in real life thats for sure.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I was really glad they lost. They absolutely did not deserve any money.

[@scottburleson7215]

Jill, Amber, and their pet Justin demonstrated to the world how evil, cruel, and delusional people can be. Javier and many others showed that others can be kind; and Team Charlie showed how to hold folks accountable when not letting the witch's pet Justin join their team because he trashed the witches' camp. As horrifying as the terrible behavior won, I enjoy that the witches were exposed - and the good guys won. Even Javier won, in that he can hold his head high for being a respectable player and showing kindness towards the others.

[@skyjones155]

It’s all good they got that karma at the end ..

[@mrsmarieclaire22]

Amber, Jill and Justin were the worst they were straight out bullies, they got what they deserved in the end.. Nothing!!! They even got rid of Justin and sabotaged him, I felt so sorry for Javier he deserved a chance at winning, he has a lot of self control because I wouldn't smacked the crap out of Amber while she was trying to steal my stuff, they are despicable. I think they should have been disqualified for what they did.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Production should have disqualified Alpha for what they did and its actually sickening they let it continue. Javier should get a second chance if they ever have a second season of this show or he should go on the TV show "alone".

[@Justvisiting14]

Great example of how greed can turn people into savages. They said it's ok because it's a game.. You could totally see their true personality looking into their eyes while they were stealing and bullying to win...savages! That's not survival skill. Netflix should be ashamed to allow such behavior. This show just destroyed the entire "survival" theme shows. Just watch what happens on the next newest survival show... it'll be similar.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

They showed their true colors as they will do literally anything to win money.

[@cdawgRJ]

Those two girls should be embarrassed of their actions. The show was ruined but I’m happy that others took the right side and did the right thing. And the end karma prevailed

[@osiruscdog1]

When I saw how Jill, Amber & Justin changed what the show was about it made me angry and I felt if they are going to sabotage other teams and risk their lives violence such as hand-to-hand combat should be allowed. If someone is trying to trash the lively hood of others then they deserve a real fight so they understand what the real risk is instead of no repercussions and just standing at someone's camp waiting for them to leave so they can trash it normal ppl in a real-life situation are not just gonna stand by while someone steals from you and takes away your ability to live in a harsh environment. However the rest of the show I was definitely rooting against Jill, Amber & Justin for the rest of the show.

[@truthinchrist3001]

Exactly, the law does not apply to them only to the ones they are burglarizing! Technically laws do allow you to defend your life and property.

[@erick.2640]

The whole show went worse as soon as some People played unfair cause their probably not able to win with their survival skills. Sabotage camps, like stealing sleepingbags etc. was a big part of this series. The Show was meant to be a survival show and it ended up like beeing a mud fight instead. And Jill… Damn i couldn‘t handle her. Made me sick how she acts. Its okay to steal someones sleepingbags in Alaska with temperatures like 30F but goes crazy as soon as Justin left Team Alpha without a word. Would do it the same way justin did. And Amber… she was more bla bla than doing something. The biggest follower in this whole series. Im really glad that Team Charlie won this thing. They played fair the whole time (as good as possible i think) I would have wished they let Javier join them. But it is how it is. Theres a lot of potential in this series but you need to establish some more rules to keep it fair and clean! Otherwise i wont watch it again cause i think it will be going in the same direction.

[@GTSN38]

Why didn't they just start fighting each other and shooting people with arrows ? I mean if there's no law, why not ? That would have been a better show than this crap !

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Lol 🤣 that was the one rule that they couldn't harm each other. Apparently everything else was allowed.

[@skettlez9732]

I loved the dynamic between Javier and Brian. I found their back and forth bickering hilarious. I also loved that they genuinely enjoyed each others companies despite all the troubles. Javier was too pure for this show, he would never go to the lengths that Jill and Amber went to in order to screw someone over.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I wish Brian had stuck around and him and Javier had made it to the end. Would have been awesome for them to be the winning team .

[@laurenmetzlerart]

Eeeep I know I loved watching their bickering it was cute. You could tell they were like brothers and enjoyed learning from each other, but brothers also argue little bits here and there bc they are family. So wholesome :3

[@katiedanner1]

It's a horrible survival show but it's a great show in terms of modern human psychology

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Oh yea definitely. It shows how far people will go when money is on the line.

[@ericmace8312]

Javier was in for long run until the crackheads started being crackheads

[@Ryder_OMEGA]

1 thing that keeped sticking with me, is why didn't the hunters team up to kill a bear and eat it? That's easily 2 weeks of food and a warm bed. And none of these hunters killed a deer or a bird or anything.

[@Relovance]

Hear me out, bring Jill and amber back. Put me on the show with 3 of the dudes I served with, my pick, we are in Alaska, there's no law. We won't get lethal, but it'll get interesting.

[@Relovance]

They gonna believe in the Rougarou by the time I'm finished.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Lol 😆 I want to see them get sabotaged even worse than they did to other camps.

[@KC-mj6eu]

🤣

[@akbychoice]

Javier got cheated, I’m just glad Jill didn’t win. She is not a player with skill, she is the kind of person that would stab you in the back.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I hope Javier gets a second chance someday !

[@akbychoice]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz I do too

[@BoiYahTfah]

1million divided by 4 is 250k - 1m divided by 3 is 333k- That’s why those guys kicked out the skinny guy and didnt want Javier. Jill wanted to stay with Amber and made up a story to kick that guy out and also refused to joined the guys because 1m divided by 2 is 500k each. They were all greedy and trying to get the maximum win. They were all horrible greedy people, Paul is no different from Jill. I hate that they won.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Yea I agree that's why they did it. Charlie group definitely wanted more money.

[@dark_winter8238]

One of the contestents mentioned that they were only told they would get 250k if they lasted to the end. Not that they would get more with fewer people.

[@facelessfacelessthelegiyon1583]

Once the alpha team started doing that dirty stuff I didn't even care for the show at all anymore. I didn't want to watch I wanted jav to get his revenge so bad and then Charlie team wouldn't help him. I hated it.

[@lenovo7999]

The should give Javier and brian their own show, those are some wholesome brothers right there

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Put them on alone !

[@Not_A_Tourist]

Brian? The guy that snuck away and fired his flare without having the decency to inform his one and only teammate? That Brian?

[@skettlez9732]

@@Not_A_Tourist Shut up man.

[@5apph1b1u3]

Think ‘The Apprentice meets Survivor meets The Psychopath Next Door’. I was so put off by the morally-bankrupt behaviours of these people. And rationalizing all this disgusting behaviour by saying it was for the sake of their families or indemnifying themselves with references to God and Christianity (your Bible provides you NO excuses, so don’t bother). I can’t diagnose mental illness but I know Jill and Amber have something diagnosable. They were a snapshot into how evil attracts evil (and what that evil can result in). Amber’s blind devotion to Jill’s psychopathy was so disturbing and then they deluded themselves by trying to explain it as ‘girl power’ and stating that they did nothing wrong. And Justin came off as an absolute mindless ghoul. The three that won were dishonest, holier-than-thou sneaks as well. One of them is a teacher, good grief - the misogynistic bully who says he can identify liars, cheats, quitters - all of whom he “hates”. And his precious bruhs were hypocritical deceitful cowards, so they made quite the trio. Cash in the bank but morally bankrupt. Hard pass on Season 2 Outlast. Getting ready to watch Alone Season 11.

[@Killingglorie]

i really enjoyed the show, hated the actions of Team Alpha, but that doesnt mean the show wasnt good. The thing that pissed me off was when they were robbing and destroying Javeirs stuff, that he couldn't really do anything to stop them, as he couldn't physically restrain the women as hed be done in on assault, where in real life hed kick the shit out of Amber and take his shit back.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

It sucked that he couldn't do anything at all about it and was basically forced out of the game. Production should be ashamed to allow this type of behavior on the show.

[@Killingglorie]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz i read an interview with the main guy and he said he was just as shocked at Aphas actions as we were, but that the game technically didn't say you couldn't win in any way possible as long as you didnt harm anyone, and that it devolved into a lord of the flies game, which made it more intersting to see how low people can go

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@KillingglorieI read an interview by Dalton Ross and production said most of them were not present when the stealing started, but still whatever crew was there are still responsible for the safety of the contestants. Being without sleeping bags in frigid weather is dangerous.

[@Killingglorie]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz a part of me really enjoyed that there was a little foul play here and there, cool to break from pure survival, because in reality that stuff would happen if they had to survive, thed form groups and pillage each other, but this was a game and those 3 together made for a timebomb and would take anyone out. Jill said she would have played nice with Pauls team, but i call BS, she would have found a way to screw them over too

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

​@@KillingglorieI really think she would have sabotaged Paul's team too if they didn't have that alliance.

[@baylenrogers8578]

I find it so funny that they felt fine stealing team Deltas sleeping bags, ransacking Javier’s fort. But when it happens to them back in return they get angry and mad, it’s like do they not know the saying you reap what you sow 🤦‍♂️

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Yes! They were complete Hippocrates and they did reap what they sow.

[@mauimartini]

when i watched i almost quit because my anger for team alpha i was just soo angry they where playing selfish and stealing deltas sleeping bags that went too far. is was so sad when brian leaved because of what other people did to others i really liked javier he was problably the most skilled and best player out there

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I almost quit after Javier left, and I actually took a break from watching for a day. I only finished it to see who won, and at that point I had no one left to root for.

[@SheDayTrades]

Jill, Amber, Paul and Justin are the type of people you avoid. Jill is an epitome of a toxic female and Amber just follows. Paul is sneaky and a beta male version of Jill. And Justin is the end result of all that toxicity but has no backbone. This wasn’t a survival show. It was more about how far you will go co compromise another human being just to make it.

[@bbours197]

Jilll and Amber showed the whole world who they are really. Ppl can be real trashy and hypocritical. So upset that Javier had to leave bcz of the stupid show rule...

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Yea the rule that you had to be part of a team at the end meant that he couldn't just run Bravo camp by himself which sucked. If he was able to stay he would have made it to the end and possibly won.

[@bbours197]

@@NotTheAverageGamerz Totally!

[@markhill8150]

It almost ruined the show for me on Episode 5 where Jill and Amber were just blatantly destroying Delta teams camp. In a no camera situation that would have instantly escalated into a physical fight but because they clearly cannot do that on TV, they just got to basically walk right up and destroy everything. It completely changed the show, if that is allowed then anything goes. It stopped being a survival show then. That should not have been allowed to happen. Such a shame for Javier who was one of the strongest contestests, couldn't blame Delta team for leaving at that point.

[@Sophie_oeb]

I just closed Netflix after seeing that episode, I'm done. Pure evil that makes my blood boil.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I almost turned it off myself.

[@TheAngusm3]

I think the most infuriating part of the whole thing with that jill and amber were doing to javier was the fact that they were taking advantage of the fact that "there are no rules" but there actually were rules, which were US laws preventing them from getting their asses kicked. If it were actually a wilderness survival situation with no outside influence, their actions would have gotten them severe and immediate physical comeuppance.

[@dogstar5572]

Surely some legal action can be taken? This is theft and destruction of someone’s property.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Well unfortunately the producers didn't give them many rules that they had to abide by :( so idk

[@nathangannon5933]

Just finished watching and all I can say is, how happy are the men out there they aren't involved with any of the women on this show especially the biggest 2 losers.

[@HelloDarkness00]

I've never been THIS pissed off by a TV show, I literally don't even wanna finish it after watching the 2 evil "women" bullying and stealing from others. Karma is a mother and it will be coming for them forever. Disgusting how they treated other humans for money. Win the right way and maybe you'd be respected but hell nah y'all ruined the show and showed what greed and evil looks like.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I didn't want to finish it either 🤣 it upset so much how all this stuff was just allowed to happen by production.

[@vivacemusic1210]

Same here

[@MrHanwulf]

jill Justin and amber was disgusting to watch i feel sry for their families

[@melissak8892]

If you like watching people kick puppies and then get to watch the kickers or the people who watched the kicking but didn't get involved, win a grand prize by taking a long walk, then this is a show for you!

[@za5820]

I've seen a lot of accusations of misogyny regarding people having less anger toward Justin than Jill. I just want to point out I think that's wrong, there are a lot of reasons Justin wasn't as bad or at least didn't seem as bad. Justin didn't seem to take the same glee out of underhanded tactics. Jill got genuine enjoyment out of it. Justin seems like he viewed that stuff as a necessary evil to win and viewed his own mistreatment in the same way without taking it personally. Jill had the mentality that any horrible thing she did was fine and the slightest inconvenience to her was an injustice. I will say though, Amber wasn't on the same level imo. Jill was the worst in the show by a country mile.

[@Rossithailand]

They could have made this show so much better , I think they got it wrong

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

I agree. It could have been a really good show if there were some rule changes .

[@nike-ee3ir]

this show is BULLSHIT, its not reality, its been manipulated. how can the crew of Charlie think that Justin has no moral like a cheater and nasty and evil, while they've wanted to invite jill's over which is obvious that she is the nastiest which moral as low as hell? (DOESNT MAKE SENSE AT ALL) especially Seth, didnt he looked at what jill and amber did to Bravo? and still think that she is worthy of Charlie? How bullshit is that. and i dont like most of the female crew here, the whole show got me annoyed the whole time.

[@johnnylong2049]

There should have been a rule against sabotaging another group. This can easily go wrong. A group could have easily burn, steal, and destroy other groups. Basically destroying any chance of surviving for the other groups.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Yea there needed to be rules against that. Honestly Alpha should have been disqualified for what they did.

[@mariaandmichael2680]

Javier was the real winner, those two witches on the other team were just horrible people and deserved to lose.

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

They really were horrible and shouldn't have even been cast on the show.

[@justiny8519]

sooo jill and shit got mad at justin for stealing their shit but when they ruined javiars shit they get no repercussions. ight den

[@NotTheAverageGamerz]

Yup so hypocritical