OUTLAW IS BROKEN (literally) | Road to Mythic Plus Title: Episode 12

Welcome to PART 12 of the Road to Mythic Plus Title. In this series we'll follow along with my rogue as I try to reach the top 0.1% of m+ players and obtain season title for the first time. Be sure to drop a like and subscribe if you enjoyed!
Twitch: / shindigwow
0:00 INTRO
0:34 Keys
3:43 Count lol
5:50 More Keys
11:41 OUTLAW IS BROKEN (literally)
12:46 Back to Key
World of Warcraft | Dragonflight

[@admok]

Nice moment at 17:44 laughing off a stupid wipe with friends! Seems better than grinding for score all alone where you'd probably only feel bad about it. Another great episode!

[@masonw6558]

Stun the raptor bro you got combos :p

[@IamNervv]

skinnerr here, WE NEEDD TO RUN AGAINNNNNN redemption baby

[@shindigg672]

YOO 100% we run those back

[@venomwave7239]

The bte bug usually happens when a pack dies and you go stealth while subterfuge from vanish or shadow dance is still up

[@shindigg672]

yeahh I've noticed that as well. Usually what I'll do is if I have subterfuge up from the previous pull, I'll wait for it to expire before restealthing

[@mathieubellavance2506]

On volkal, as a tank, i assume that if it lands on your totem you kick it. No point in the tank losing all his dmg chasing boss around. I can do 115k on my vdh on that fight so tank dmg is important

[@shindigg672]

I think that's a fair assumption to make. I think I got to a point where I had been conditioned to expect that the tank would always do it, even if it wasn't the most optimal thing to do

[@sweaterzz5597]

You got some catching up to do lol

[@shindigg672]

Only a month and a half back we win these

[@mathieubellavance2506]

He's 3610 now I checked his rio

[@youjoushi]

Spoiler​@@mathieubellavance2506

[@sylon5694]

3500 io title cutoff?:o - Rio tells me 3725.9 atm :( //// good video :)! how does outlaw feel? a friend of mine told me that it is acutally quiet exhausting and he seems to struggle alot with energy but i havn't touchet rogue in DF so far

[@shindigg672]

Yeah - I think you mean 3624 (as of the last time I checked). I plan to address this in the next video, but title cutoff was 3500 at the time for the keys done this episode. It's just that they we're done about a month and a half ago, so we're a little behind, and ofc the cutoff has risen since then

[@sweaterzz5597]

5:00 drake said it best. That’s a rookie ass mistake.

[@phuzewolf]

The BTE bug bit was so weird. The first example you lost subterfuge for like a second but then I looked at abilities cast and you 100% vanished before hand so very weird. 2nd one was even weirder cause you were stealthed and never gained subterfuge when you broke with kyrian ability. So very strange.

[@gh0stface1981]

Why is better to roll before Adrenalin rush in all guides? 😅Is it not better Adrenalin before becouse 2 buffs safe? I dont get it

[@shindigg672]

My understanding is that it's because when you use AR + slice after RtB, it reduces the cd of RtB. So if the pull timer is at least 25s (for most dungeons), it allows you to roll once more and potentially extend with KIR before engaging the first pack

[@gh0stface1981]

@@shindigg672 ok so only the first pull at dungeon start is AR after Rtb...normal pulls AR before?

[@shindigg672]

​@gh0stface1981 before you put the key in, at the start of a 25s pull timer use RtB > KIR > blade flurry > AR > slice > stealth Key is put in and dungeon count down begins AR (be in stealth so it doesn't tick down) > rtb > KIR. There are other ways to do it, but I think that's the most simple

[@hanzhuber3547]

I have this Problems all the time for Outlaw at 9:30 if u ever have a solution, pls let me know

[@shindigg672]

I talk a bit more about it at 11:41 in the video, but that specific interaction where you don't gain subterfuge after leavintg stealth happens when your first ability used from stealth is a trinket. This includes most macros with trinkets. So the solution I used was to change some of my macros such that any of the ones I would press, wouldn't use a trinket.

[@hanzhuber3547]

Thank you for pointing that out. Initially, my intention was to avoid using any macros altogether. However, as a result, I'm now encountering 2-3 bugs per instance. " first ability used from stealth is a trinket." its not all about that, sometimes it work sometimes not- buggy -.- @@shindigg672

[@shindigg672]

I'm not sure I fully understand, but I don't think macros are bad. Just be careful of any macros that have a trinket and an ability bound to a single key press. ​@@hanzhuber3547

[@leonsds1]

What macro do you use ?

[@shindigg672]

If you're referring to the one I reference in the video, it was the following: /use Echoing Reprimand /use 13

[@robingauffin1160]

is outlaw hard to learn?

[@shindigg672]

I don't think so - rather I actually think it's one of the easier specs to learn. There aren't many buttons involved with your rotation, and it's quite repetitive. There are some more complex decisions that need to be made when playing KIR, or, like me, you can also just get a weakaura that tells you when to roll so you don't have to think about it

[@christmasham4312]

I feel like outlaw pretty hard to play well though

[@shindigg672]

Agreed - outlaw is a super fast paced spec, so I've found the difficulty comes from having to make quick and accurate decisions with each global

[@gustavmalmstrom692]

If you looking for 1 more dps i would love join, ret pala or boomie

[@shindigg672]

Always down to key with some new people! Feel free to shoot me a message when I'm live on twitch or in game!

[@speedycsgo6134]

Hey Shindingg! I play outlaw aswell, and had the same prob with trinket but since I got this from a 3,6k rogue, I've had no problems - Try it out, and see if it works for you aswell! #showtooltip Between the Eyes /cast Between the Eyes /cast ghostly strike /cast between the eyes /use [nostealth] 13 /use [nostealth] My'das Talisman

[@YunaxEU]

what does this do? noob rogue here :)

[@shindigg672]

Noted, I'll have to give this a try. Thanks for sharing!

[@shindigg672]

​@@YunaxEUit's a potential solution to the issue I describe in the video where I don't gain subterfuge when leaving stealth because of a macro that uses my trinket.