My New Tesla Model 3 RWD Needed Some Minor Service!

In this video, I discuss the issues I am having with my new Model 3. I also discuss the latest Federal Tax credit now available on the Model 3 LR.
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[@davidbaker9800]

looks like you found the new fart button on the center counsel lol

[@mroakster]

😂

[@Crazypostman]

I can't believe Tesla is still having build quality issues on so many cars! It's truly unacceptable!

[@GG-te3eg]

I can't believe consumers are still buying cars with build quality issues on so many Teslas. Its truly unacceptable. Wonder what consumers can do?

[@JWellingtonMoreno]

That’s my top reason for not buying one.

[@conchobar]

@Crazypostman There's a correlation between Tesla's poor quality control and their high profit margins.

[@robertw236]

Wow! My wife bought new Model 3 2024 and have had zero issue. None at all. Runs beautifully.

[@bobbygilmore2076]

Dave you are such a great conversationalist. I could listen to you talk about Tesla all day! I'm new to the Tesla family and purchased an Ultra Red RWD Model 3 and I absolutely love my car. Love the content! 🚗🙌

[@videopyc]

I woild not buy a RWD in northern states. AWD are so mich safer during winter months.

[@marcinmerrimack1726]

Actually not. Tires have a far greater impact on safety than AWD.

[@modxmike7608]

Should’ve just kept that Model X

[@JoeyVerrone]

Yep that’s exactly what’s happening with my new M3LR I picked up 2 weeks ago with the armrest just not as loud Tesla’s replacing it

[@rfischer1984]

My Tesla had been flawless. I know people that buy cars all the time that have issues. One woman here took her car in like 15 times and still wasn't fixed. Knew someone with a Honda and it kept having issues. My Honda CR-V has issues with sensors. Had to get it looked at. So to say others don't have issues is crazy.

[@rfischer1984]

@@ArbitraryFilmings I never said there was no difference. But actually there is. Other companies have been making cars for many years. Tesla hasn't.

[@marcinmerrimack1726]

So what. Tesla should continue to get a break on quality because they haven’t been at it as long? I don’t’ think so.

[@NevadaFederalBites]

So far so good on my new model Y too. Whew! Good luck!

[@ChuiStrong]

People go into the Tesla EV game knowing they have typical and occasional QC issues. It's when it happens to yourself when we hear the issues. And Tesla knows this. They think you can either 1. live with it. or 2. take it up with their service department. Either way, people are going to buy it because it is 'good enough'. We've been hearing it for many years. Tesla knows they're getting away with it given the reputation and market surveys. The sad part is that there are better fit & finish QC in much cheaper vehicles and what I'm afraid what it does is it lowers the consumer standard of what it should be and it becomes reflected on other automakers to lower their QC standards. Especially if you're a market leader. Take Apple for example. Vote with your wallet, not with luck. Eventually it will catch up with them (sales go down, or the service dpts dpts are overwhelmed). It's just not now.

[@js3085]

Time to TRADE in…

[@kevincurry4735]

Buc’ee the perfect name for your new M3 Dave. With those noises, that car may make you a little nutty. Have a great vacation.

[@craigt8432]

Hey Dave, glad you enjoy the car despite the issues! Im actually going on a cruise out of Southampton soon as well! What are the odds. Maybe Ill see you at the port. Keep up the great videos and enjoy your vacation!

[@slyguyaction]

We road-tripped our 2022 RWD Model 3 from Indio, CA to Colorado Springs, CO last summer and it was a breeze. Sure, it can only peak charge (at a SC) 170kW for a short burst but we rarely sat on the hook longer than 12 minutes before the car would notify us it was ready to leave and on to the next SuperCharger on our route. We LOVE the LFP battery and the car overall. Congrats on your Highland Model 3 RWD Dave. Looking forward to that challenge with Will. Thanks man.

[@stevenichols4639]

I think Dave is the only person I’ve ever heard of gets his car fixed instantaneously every time he goes I’m sure his KZbin channel nothing to do with that. My sister had a problem with her Tesla. She got an appointment a month later. On the other hand, I’ve had my test for 17 months. It’s never needed service.

[@DarrenDaoust]

It's very disappointing to see the refresh cars having the same quality control issues as the old ones. I'm looking forward to your RWD vs AWD test!

[@gatorsfan146]

I ordered a Dual Motor with white interior on 1/11/24,got tired of waiting and settled on a RWD that was great but had a Black interior. The first day the Performance hit the market I ordered one with white interior and on 6/11 I traded in my RWD that they gave me 34.5k for and with the tax credit never looked back. Loved your video in the showroom with the Performance and your wife was EXACTELY right , the Stealth Gray w/ white interior is stunning!

[@atibalewis1281]

I was at Tesla this day with Dave, chatted with him for a bit as I was waiting for my Model S to have the A/C worked on ( 2014 Model S ). I noticed him from the Model X Plaid Video ( I was oddly there that night when he and his wife took delivery, crazy I know ). Real cool dude, videos are dope and informative as well. Great job Dave.

[@outofspecdave1554]

Great seeing you again Atiba! How weird you were there when I got my X and then again when picking up my 3! Are you stalking me? Hahaha

[@rwjr1944]

Interesting discussion about used Teslas and trade ins. Excellent explanation about the different battery configurations.

[@JT1652]

I bought a RWD 2 months ago. I would not take a $9k loss on trade in to pick up a long range. Interesting to hear what your trade in value is. Great video!

[@Jaw0lf]

I have had my new Model 3 RWD in the UK for just over 2 months and am loving the car. 5 miles per kWh equivalent for many of my journies. Thankfully no rattles with mine!

[@bundy26]

I went from NJ to Indianapolis for the race and I averaged in the mid 230 wh/m on my 23 M3 RWD. This car is an awesome road tripper.

[@tedbundy2379]

Hours faster in an ICE car…..ouch

[@bundy26]

@@tedbundy2379 just 1 hour. So not that much ouch there.......

[@tedbundy2379]

@@bundy26 That’s a lie. A video documented trip in a Tesla from Chicago to NY took 5 more hours than an ICE car.

[@bundy26]

@@tedbundy2379 who was driving, your grandma? Oh yeah, I forgot you were there on that trip......

[@tedbundy2379]

@@bundy26 Fox Business channel Fanboy. Ouch

[@gregsjaguar46]

Driving in France is an absolute joy. Charging infrastructure is excellent. I do a road trip with an iPace from London to spain 3 times a year. No worries at all. You don’t need an international driver license either for France.

[@Runtythestar]

Didn't know I had misophonia until you posted the graphic. That explains a lot in my life. Hopefully, Tesla also resolved the fake leather from melting/bubbling from items like hand lotion. I use Gold Bond on my skin and it has melted by console cover and door handle area in my '19 SR+

[@edmundhayes1840]

Southampton is a great city. Enjoy your cruise Dave and Kathy!

[@Woodcote]

Let’s see how long Buc-ee lasts before it’s swapped out. I’m guessing 6 months lol 😅. For reliability, my 2023 MYLR has been perfect and just hit 30k miles. Gets a ton of use!

[@conrado800]

I bet 3 months

[@fowlercarlos]

It’s great they’re willing to give you a loaner version for your next appointment. I decided to cancel my most recent appointment for my 2024 Tesla Model X because they were going to give my Uber credits instead of a loaner at my local service center.

[@sethssd]

Yeah I got the uber credits once.. those are a pain... kind of during the giant shortage time though. Managed to get a variety of loaners since then, even an x plaid once...

[@hartfischer5509]

No need for an international driver license . I drive all over Europe with my Nevada license. And yes, I was at D-Day 80th anniversary in Normandy. It was fantastic. I drove there with my mom s Mercedes, and my Peugeot vintage 1990s road bicycle, which saved me 3 times, getting to places where the road was closed or completely clogged. I can t wait for your D-Day coverage : )

[@mrexcet]

Hi David thanks again for a great video. I had rattling going on in my Highland just after a short while of ownership. It turned out to not be inside the ventilation system. It was inside the camera house in front window behind the rear view mirror. Had the exact same issue in my Volvo I was driving before the Tesla. Don't know if that is the same problem you have. But it is good to tell the service centre if they can't find any problem inside the vent system, that it can be a total different error. When I got it in the Volvo I first thought it came from the vent system. It sounded the same in the Tesla. Fortunately I could tell my mechanic at Service Centre because he and the boss couldn't find the problem until I told them about the Volvo issue...and they immediately found the problem in the camera house. Otherwise the car has been flawless. No creeking or other issues.

[@henrycruz45cal]

Sorry to hear about your mental issue. You seem to be living around it well ;)

[@kashmnyx]

white people call anything a mental issue so they have an excuse

[@Anthony__420]

Bills by the singing bridge! I used to love that place when I lived in Connecticut now live in Sarasota county Florida

[@dandaigle4546]

Dave this is hilarious, your center counsel sounds like a bed spring, lmao

[@donwhyte9855]

that's console mate not counsel

[@dbarn5324]

I bought my LR model 3 in Dec 2023. mainly to get the tax credit. Now have 9000 miles and not one issue or no rattles either. I was going to wait and buy the 2024 but after seeing all these issues I'm glad I bought the 23.

[@houghtonic1975]

I had a M3P on order and the day after the M3 LR was announced to qualify for the tax credit, my M3P projected deliver date pushed back another month. I went to the showroom and changed my order to a M3LR with the color options I wanted. With those options it put me it reduced my savings to $4500, but it also puts me in the car in one week as opposed to 2 or 3 months from now and that projection is still liable to have shifted quite a bit based on production changes to accommodate the new demand the M3LR is going to get.

[@PeaceChanel]

Thank You Dave for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤

[@allendavid4139]

Any excuse to visit that diner in MT Kisco ,yeah we know 😅.Enjoy Normandy .D Day commemorations always a moving experience to watch

[@jacklange1641]

A beautiful car Dave! Congratulations!

[@John__Wayne]

This is a great reason to test drive vehicles before you buy. I could never buy a car online and not drive it first.

[@davejohnson6144]

Tesla does not all you to test drive the car your actually buying until you pay for and accept the car but at that point it’s yours good or bad. Sucks

[@quickpstuts412]

Not sure what you mean. Even though I test drove other non EV cars, the new car I actually bought was not the same one I test drove. I didn't test my Lexus eitiher. So they could still have issues upon delivery, unless you mean buying used. The real issue is Tesla has no QC!

[@ChaimLoecher]

Sweet ride

[@Wittstock99]

So true, if you want it, get and don't look back

[@DaveHaas]

That IS a good name for a OOSDave car, bravo

[@JP-sw5ho]

Great work on this video

[@josephpt9540]

Your trade off in this car is the efficiency and longevity which I truly endorse having the same Car. I did my 3100 miles road trip in FSD 12.3.6 charging 100pc every stop averaging 222Wh/mi. Like your video very mature comments even with glitches found. Change is the thing happening in Tesla.

[@PhillipStewartYYZ]

Oh my goodness why would you can charge to 100% every stop?

[@josephpt9540]

I was not in a hurry and needed 35 to 40 minutes break every 3 hrs

[@stanmisiak5634]

Looking forward to the video from France

[@volcalstone]

Dave tomorrow: Telsa can't fix all my issues so now I'm getting the M3 Long Range. 😅

[@davewalden1504]

Hi Dave, you should buy a Bucky at Buc-ees and replace your Paddington Bear with it for your new Model 3. 😊

[@ThorRavnsborg]

Thanks for the videos Dave and good to know some of the things to look for when I'm picking up our new Model 3 RWD tomorrow. I live in Europe (Denmark) so our Model 3 is from the Shanghai factory. I'm not sure if that makes any difference but I think I read somewhere that Giga Shanghai is supposed to make the cars with fewest quality issues (at least at the time of writing but that was last year so things could have changed). Btw. we currently don't get offered the cheap financing here but I got 5.000 km of free supercharging instead and the prices have never been lower than they currently are. However, the current prices might not last since the EU has just increased tariffs on EVs from China (including Teslas from Giga Shanghai) so Model 3 prices here are expected to increase from July 1st. I know that a new car is always going to be a depreciating asset and that something better is certain to come along in the future but compared to most people who bought a Tesla in recent years I think my timing might actually be pretty good for this reason.

[@lakent39]

I have a M3 long range. Got it may 5. This is my first EV and I just did a week long road trip from Long Island to Michigan then all over Michigan and back, 2100 miles total. I found the trip an incredibly civilized way to road trip. Stopping for 15 or 20 mins or even longer at some stops is not an issue. After 2 to 3 hours driving between stops I needed to get out and stretch my legs and bathroom break and at some even close my eyes. I never felt like I was waiting for the car to finish. She always said she was ready to go before I was. So yes it seems like I got the not so great battery and paid the highest price (I have white on white and 18 inch wheels), I completely love this car and am very very happy with my Helen Wheels. The average for this trip was 227Wh/mile

[@jaredschoenbrun]

Very understandable

[@georgepelton5645]

Dave, Cycle testing of LFP cells in labs results in about 3x the cycle life of NCM and NCA cells. However packs may fail due to corrosion, water intrusion, contactor failure, circuit board failure, etc. If none of those get your pack, and you don’t drive a lot of miles per year, calendar life may run out before cycle life.

[@TisforTech]

Good video, thanks for the input. My wife and I don't qualify for the tax credit, and I was wondering if the LR was worth the premium over the RWD. This has helped.

[@issiewizzie]

I test drove the MB3 and Model Y. The MB3 has a forgiving suspension, but the Model Y's build quality was much better inside and sturdier. The MB3 has flimsy internal side panels. I was told there is a difference between cars assembled in Belgium and China, with the ones from China having better quality.

[@lesheck157]

My Tesla 3HL RWD has the same squeaky armrest plus driver’s seat also makes some noises on bumpy roads. I’ve had the car since December 23 and it’s from Giga Shanghai.

[@Jacob6875]

One thing you have to think of is you lose the charging advantage on a lot of road trips since you are stuck on V2 Superchargers. I’ve been able to do ~750mi in 11-12 hours multiple times in my 23 RWD

[@dorsetandy3873]

Here in the UK stealth grey is a £2000 option. Pearl white is the standard colour here but a $1000 option in the US - Tesla’s pricing strategy doesn’t make sense to me and I own a M3 RWD. Look forward to you and Cathy visiting the UK - as a bonus you ought to be able to see Tesla’s Southampton delivery centre from your ship once it has docked in the cruise terminal. You could book a test drive and drive on the right (left) side of the road.

[@guyg2005]

Glad you got the loose item fixed in the steering wheel. What was it? An extra part? Unless robots are building the cars people still make mistakes. With all the firing of employees you wonder what the frame of mind is in the factories.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

American work ethic.

[@matthedrick7010]

Dave got a raise at work!

[@doomsday9973]

Funny how that works lol

[@tazeat]

KZbin videos must be paying off last year xD. I know that feel though, put off a bunch of income last year to get a credit last year, could still use last years income for this year but won't apply after that... Tesla not allowing lease buyouts just is mind blowing, so many more people would lease. I'd have strongly considered it.

[@quickpstuts412]

I don't know why but I have a feeling Dave probably invests well and has multiple income streams beyond his job and KZbin. Go Dave.

[@doomsday9973]

@@quickpstuts412 well he is a Wall Street finance guy so I’m sure he does

[@quickpstuts412]

@@doomsday9973 Oh didn't know that. Makes sense.

[@zachlafond2652]

Only issue in our '23 was water in one taillight (it was replaced). That is over a year now.

[@Richwolf32]

Hope your coming over early to visit England pre cruise.

[@motorwouter]

That’s bad 😮 but I love buc ee

[@d7mysterio7]

Mmmmm. Dave said I’m 100% happy with this purchase. Give it two to three months and Dave will trade this Model 3 for something else 😅😅😅😅

[@doomsday9973]

100%

[@tyranelewis7763]

FYI: Not a good idea placing your "HUD" card in the phone place. the wireless charging can affect the electronics of the "HUD" card

[@d-jfamily8462]

You mentioned traveling to Normandy region, France in honor of the 80th anniversary of D Day/Jour J. Do not miss the American Cemetary in Colleville-sur-Mer. Do walk down to the beach where the Landing occured. My family's (from Mass.) trip to Normandy changed my life and really made me appreciate what the Allied Forces endured and sacrificed for the world. Pointe du Hoc (three miles west of Omaha Beach) is worth the time and quite moving.

[@cgamiga]

We got a used 2023 RWD, and.. *after* the test drive, found something rolling around inside making rattlings noises... not sure if inside the rear floor vents (scoped it, nothing), or something got under carpet & rolling floor... sigh! so aggravating!

[@martinbusler7416]

What do you think of the new Equinox ev? It looks really nice.

[@js3085]

There’s a ball bearing Loose for sure!!! (But it’s not in the steering wheel) 😂😂😂

[@StayConnectedEV]

Dave your legs look a bit tight in that drivers seat? Maybe its the wide angle lens throwing me off.

[@yenlard6683]

He is a big guy 🤔

[@dennislyon5412]

But lots of legroom with seat all the way back.

[@waynesmith6544]

I live in your area. What is your opinion of the Mt Kisco delivery/service center? Any negative experiences?

[@TisforTech]

What do you think about the audio/speaker system? How much worse is it than the LR?

[@ChicagoBob123]

Bought my 23 rwd out 20k miles went to try and but a model Y finance deal was there and it most over 15k from what I paid. That was just too much.

[@Jarptchow85]

I have watched your videos Dave and I know about the LFP etc. but the standard range does not come with AWD and the better sound system and the warranty is better.

[@Terrillthegreat79]

My 2018 LR RWD model 3 has been trouble free for most of my 82k mile ownership experience. Just minor paint or squeak/rattle issues. But recently, I’ve had a drivetrain error: DIR_a149. After the error appears, the car begins to reduce top speed. My car is in the shop and I miss it.

[@OldBoy-USA]

Nice presentation. You said back and fort that LG and Panasonic packs in M3 Long Range. Which one is installed in Lomg Ráng now. LG or Panasonic? Thank you much Dave

[@GraysonCarr]

Both. Current inventory has LG, but new ones being built now have Panasonic. Basically, if you put in a new custom order and it qualifies for the federal tax credit, then it has the Panasonic battery, but if you purchase an inventory vehicle already on the lot and it doesn't qualify for the tax credit, then it has the LG battery.

[@OldBoy-USA]

@@GraysonCarr thanks

[@Weezedog]

It was inevitable something had to change with the M3 LR, it was more expensive than the Performance when factoring the tax credit. It's a market distortion, and either the price had to come down or they had to figure out a way to get the tax credit. Everyone was predicting the LR would eventually qualify again. With Tesla sales down, it makes sense they would no longer need to source the LG battery packs.

[@andrerodriguez7603]

I’ll have to push hard, and hit my dash to see if I have those issues in my new Model Y. The steering wheel noise is annoying too. You could grease the arm rest, that will fix it. Sounds like the vinyl is rubbing. For the mental condition you have, I would trade it in for a plush Mercedes.

[@kevinlloyd1088]

You're going to love the French roads. The European standard is CCS2 even for Tesla. Toll roads are expensive but have no trucks on Sunday. You will buy a Model Y when you get back to the States.

[@joeyvinzo4531]

Do you the stalks? How does it compare to your old Model 3?

[@michaelglazer6846]

Let us know when you do this test so we can let the state police know that no roads in the northeast east have limits over 65 to 70 max

[@framelessmonk1724]

Classic Fremont built quality. My Giga Shanghai built M3H is flawless. No jingling nor creaks. Just vault-like silent. Almost creepy feeling.

[@DacBietViet-cl7gy]

rattles, defects & qc issues are built in features

[@robert5008]

Dave can you also make a video of the beach and other memorials on site.

[@thomasl2193]

You would think they would have a QC department that could test every car rolling off the line of the most known quality issues.

[@adamchoi8136]

Lfp is a great commuter car and for long road trips. The new model 3 is more efficient as well. I’m sure you’ll be happy with the purchase…until the next video where you announce the financial decision to purchase a new car 😂

[@Sale23222]

While M3 Standard Range is a great car especially for its price, Long Range is a great upgrade still with 4 major changes: total range, AWD, acceleration (4.2 0-60) and premium sound system. All those are things that most people would care and pick LR even without tax benefits.

[@scott-gy6fe]

As a Tesla shareholder I am concerned about shipping out crappy cars. It's like they are following ford and gm path to ruin. I get angry when I hear service center doesn't understand 3 year 36k warranty and what it means.

[@videosbystofferson3945]

I love your dedication to the EV lifestyle, but it's time to be brutally honest. Tesla has built enough Model 3s and Model Ys to have worked out the kinks and improve their quality. While there have been changes, the problems that you experienced should have been resolved long ago. And why aren't these things being caught in Quality Control at the factory or the delivery center? This is not okay. And no one should feel that this is acceptable.

[@dlm89538]

From my understanding, the long range is better for shorter charging times. It would take much longer at a super charger to charge the RWD to 100% than the LR to charge to 80% to get the same range of miles...that's one advantage of the LR model 3.

[@tazeat]

I'd almost prefer a LR LFP. I want the AWD and acceleration performance, as well as the longevity of LFP, but the actual range isn't really any different and neither is the down low charge curve. I am looking forward to seeing some of the next gen CATL and BYD LFP tech that they're promising. Could definitely be the way to go for the bulk of EVs, especially once we lean more about the degradation and failure rates after the 1-7ish year honeymoon period of EVs and things start getting old and we get more examples of high cycle count batteries.

[@aaronalter2000]

I love your down-to-earth videos! I'm planning on test driving the new Model 3 and hoping that I don't find it too low to the ground to get in and out of the car comfortably.

[@keithferguson6422]

I'm 6' and find it difficult to get in. I do have a bad back, I bought a Y, and have no issues.

[@mongo64071]

That’s a real pain in the ass driving from Norwalk to mt kisco every time you need service. At least an hour each way. If you have an aversion to sounds, I would have taken a long test drive before I signed on the dotted line. Especially given Tesla build quality and the fact that this is a new model.

[@Melissaldickson]

What about going to Milford for service?

[@mongo64071]

@@Melissaldickson I95 is a hell hole of a road. It could easily be an hour to Milford too with daily construction or traffic. Sometimes it takes 1 hour to go from Norwalk to Stamford. I would never buy a car that didn’t have a local dealer.

[@Melissaldickson]

@@mongo64071 I get it. One definitely has to gauge the time of day they want to deal with the traffic/roadwork. I'm 20 minutes on 95 from Milford which is manageable.

[@TuneupMagic]

Agree 100% with @dbarn5324 in saying "I was going to wait and buy the 2024 but after seeing all these issues I'm glad I bought the 23." It's definitely not advisable to buy or lease any Tesla vehicles, manufactured after their recent morale-degrading mass/continuous layoffs, for a certain period of time. Oh one more thing: I test drove the 2024 M3 RWD on February 9, 2024 accompanied by a Tesla rep. Thought the POS (Not Point of Sale lol) was going to roll over when I did a quick left/right maneuver (similar to a race car warming up its tires) at only 40-ish MPH on a straight/level roadway near Atlanta, Georgia, USA.

[@dougmanck4149]

I live in a city of over 300,000 but would have to drive 2 hours to a Tesla service center. Reason I hesitate to buy. Tesla needs to expand their service network

[@jhelotes5627]

Had my MYP since 2021. Only one service call and they came to my home. No more gas stations, oil changes, brakes, etc. Absolutely the easiest vehicle to own and operate. Don’t hesitate.

[@EricsBeard-ws1nz]

Also missing stalks, ask them to fix that.

[@helper734]

My 2024 M3LR steering buttons randomly stopping working, zero clicking, the clicking disappears. Tesla said just wait for a firmware update. It's been 3 months and it's a safety issue as well.

[@TassieEV]

Your drive in France with the Model Y you will find the charging infrastructure far and above what you get in the US that includes non-Tesla chargers some are better than the supercharger sites as some have roofs, window washing, bins, etc. I follow Electrix Felix who lives in the EU and France has amazing charging infrastructure just don't try to speed or the gendarmerie will be helping themselves to hundreds of Euros out of your wallet as Jeremy & Richard(Top Gear) found out the hard way.

[@paulburns3211]

That’s really abysmal QC. Inexcusable.

[@daviidfm923]

Wonder if the older interior was built with higher priced materials even tho the new one looks better.

[@GraysonCarr]

One obvious material that was more expensive in the old one was the Alcantara on the doors. This material is only available in the Long Range now, and the RWD now has a cheaper fabric on the doors.

[@lmb4876]

Do Bucees have electric charging stations?..I travel a lot on i-10 in Florida & have never seen electric charging at Bucees

[@sirgardensalot]

I would just return it you went from one problem with the wing doors and now you have a squeaky car what's not go was GV60 like that

[@TheLobo91]

Your point about the 272 miles vs 300 is exactly why nmc will be replaced with LFP along with having larger cells to simply manufacturing and lower cost. These new LFP will be amazing. We should be getting thwm next year but we need a made in USA suppier. Hurry up tesla. Dump that 4680 already.

[@Longsnowsm]

RWD vs LR is clear when you plug in your road trips into ABRP. Fewer stops, faster charging times are clear when your road tripping. If your not road tripping then it really doesn't much matter. It is all about that charging curve and charging speed. Your charging off the bottom of the pack and only up to what you need for your next stop. The LR has a clear advantage. Plug in the two cars in ABRP and you will see the difference, not just guess or feel. Is the LR worth the huge price spread? For many it won't be worth big bucks, but with only $1000 spread? That is a no brainer.

[@outofspecdave1554]

Please tell me what you mean by this comment @out_ofspecdave I am so confused

[@lyskamm88]

In EU you still have a 14 days money back guarantee since it’s an online purchase.

[@krisacker]

Dave, If I was in La Rochelle, I'd go see the German U-boot bunker.

[@dmunro9076]

I am fairly certain that you don't need an International DL to rent a car in the EU.