Our MG4 UK Road Trip! (2 of 2) Oxford, Stratford Upon Avon, Warwick Castle & London

[@gordonhancock5524]

William Shakespeare was born in this house and grew up here with his parents and siblings. He also spent the first five years of his marriage living here with his wife Anne Hathaway. John and Mary Shakespeare were wealthy enough to own the largest house on Henley Street.

[@peterengland6153]

I am in New Zealand, the base model MG4 cost me $25,500 USD. 97% of my journeys are under 40km. I charge at night at home for FREE. It has V2L, have install a 63a charge over switch, and I had 3 power cuts in the last year, and it has powered my whole house.

[@outofspecdave1554]

Wow! That’s awesome

[@bill_heywood]

Love these videos from the UK. I owned and MG4 and loved it - 204hp through the rear wheels It’s worth knowing that the Oxford Superhub at the Redbridge Park & Ride has 10 300kW chargers, 12 Tesla 250kW chargers, 3 ChaDeMo chargers and 28 22kW AC chargers. It’s one of the biggest charging sites in the UK

[@Deeje2]

Welcome back to the UK, Dave & Kathy! It's always a great watch seeing you navigate British roads haha. Entertaining and informative as usual.. keep 'em coming!

[@johnbaker5533]

There are much better charging options nearby than the old 50kW ones.

[@ser9656]

Shakespeare's baptism is recorded in the Parish Register at Holy Trinity Church, Stratford-upon-Avon so safe to assume that’s the house where he was born. I visited his home MANY years ago.

[@josephmwilliams6754]

Hi , Enjoyed your Oxford trip ! Always nice to see what tourists think of our little Island ! The Corsa electric you noticed charging was Vauxhall as was the Mokka which were formerly GM products but now part of a French consortium including Peugeot and I think Seat. I have an MG4 which I can charge at some Tesla sites but as yet not all . Glad you enjoyed your time with us

[@TheGrimStoic]

so engrossingly meta - their unawareness of their unawareness - I'm hooked

[@Popdog76]

That MG4 is a 23 year not 24. The 24 year model has improvements most obvious being a rear windscreen wiper and one pedal driving. On the m40 between Warwick castle and Oxford services is public Tesla superchargers at Banbury

[@grumblewoof4721]

Yes, my first car was an MGB roaster in 1975 ... It was sad when the company stopped making the MG cars (mostly 2 seater small sports cars, early ones had wire wheels) and the brand was sold to the Chinese... However, I think the new EV's are cool especially the MG 4 XPower with 0 to 62 in 3.8 seconds. The MG Cyberster is spectacular and I think the Chinese can now claim the MG badge as their own.

[@thomasneedham3342]

Oh man I thought there would be a long wait for part 2! Your killing it Dave!

[@Popdog76]

Guy next to you in Oxford services charging a white mg Zs was in a shared car. You can rent them for hours or days and open them with a credit card

[@Primetimeev]

Love this video! You guys still here? Could have shown you the EV sites of good ol blighty! But seriously the charging is an issue and you can see from the video that the general public are challenged by the shift to EV and the lack of charging availability. Opening up superchargers generally and some options for those living in urban areas without off street parking needs attention as people feel EVs are being forced upon them in the UK with the 2030/35 shift. Great, entertaining and thought provoking film.

[@cordkretzschmar5693]

This blue car is a Opel corsa in england named Vauxhall Corsa. (Ople was a german car brand now owned by GM). I think Kyle could told you too.

[@davidmason7380]

Opel vauxhall is now owned by Steliantis

[@AutoReport1]

@@cordkretzschmar5693 now owned by Stellantis. They basically rebelled and refused to make money until GM sold it off.

[@EverydayLife621]

Welcome to my home town (Stratford on Avon). Interesting that I drive an Black MG4 SE (its the most popular EV in the UK for private buyers), sorry we missed each other, next time take an evening meal on one of the river cruises EDIT: Next time look out for tesla open to all - one suitable stop could have been Banbury OX16 1LX (which has about 10 bays)👍- also Gridserve has had a big investment in the past year, so a lot of service stations now have 10+ chargers - these 50Kw ones are very old - but hey we're english and love to queue (originally I'm from the lake district, so you'll find more friendly folk up north, Scotland & Wales) - let us know how you got on with LKA (we know it as Lane Kill Assist - we have the very 1st version )

[@outofspecdave1554]

Somehow, my segment on ADAS on this car didn’t make it into the video I remember calling Kyle telling him that it was so bad, it was unusable. Seriously bad

[@annakissed3226]

Wow thanks for the video. I live just off the ring road round Oxford, and I have no reason to go via the science area and I am utterly blown away by the changes. Its looks like the University has removed the huge Psychology building that has been there all my life Btw there is no Oxford University campus. There is Oxford town and Oxford Gown and we are totally integrated. The colleges are spread all over the town. When students come up to Oxford, they join a college which is part of the University. They may go to any lecture they like, but there course work is set by their college tutors

[@JuicyJohnEV]

41:07 it’s because almost everyone charges at home. I’ve had two EVs for 3 years and I’ve used public charging twice!

[@simplygregsterev]

I'm in the UK shortly and plan on splitting the rentals over 16 days with 8/8 BYD Atto and MG4. I've got way too many Polestar 2s in Europe, a bit boring. Oxford Services suck! Cherwell Valley 10 mins up the M40 is slightly better.. Both are BRUTAL on a Bank Holiday Monday

[@johng5474]

There are British petrolheads who hate the fact that MG is leading the way on EVs. In fact if the original MG company gad the technology back then they would have gone all in. I am on my second MGZSEV and I love it, yes its made to a budget but we cant all afford Teslas or Mercedes. You must have found the only place without lots of rapid chargers. That area in England is covered with them and you can often charge a non Tesla on a supercharger.

[@simplygregsterev]

Oxford Services and Cherwell can get pretty rough on weekends or bank holidays. There is a small overflow site near Baynard Green. Esso has 2 chargers and McDonalds has 2x instavolt. A little hidden site is shell on the A34. I just hit up the Supercharger in Banbury or Instavolt Hub

[@stephenbagwell8275]

There’s proper MGs in the British Motor Museum just off the M40 motorway near Stratford Upon Avon

[@PierreSimonsson]

3:18 Probly a Vauxhall/Opel/ Holden Corsa. Vauxhal in UK. Opel in Europe , Holden IN Australia.

[@lyskamm88]

Now Stellantis It was GM for nearly 100 years

[@gsbeak]

The Opel/Vauxhall Corsa is a rebadging of the Peugeot e-208.

[@carlarrowsmith]

@@lyskamm88 Holden has disappeared un Australia too

[@OutofSpecVessel]

⁠​⁠@@gsbeak Not exactly. While they share the same platform, they are not simply the same car with a different badge.

[@mmotraghi]

Really enjoyed watching your video, and especially the part in Oxford. You probably didn’t realise that you drove past the original site of Morris Garages (MG) on Long Wall Street.

[@outofspecdave1554]

How cool!!

[@djmorris103]

Loving the videos of your travels especially the UK ones. The MG is very popular and great value.

[@redjohn20001]

Dave, you might be interested to know that all electric narrow boats are available, solar powered with some 2kW of panels on the roof.

[@cordkretzschmar5693]

Nice trip hope you enjoy it. One remark. If you are visiting europe without visiting germany you missed the heart of europe. If you want to do it one day, a lot of americans choose to visit Bavaria. Most germans think bavaria is quite untypical for germany, it is loaded with strange stereotyps, you might find confirmed. But bavaria is so much germany as Texas is the USA. (where you could find some stereotyps of the US as well i think)

[@tommilton5753]

So you dig in to a Burger King but turn your nose up at Black Pudding. Give it a try, white pudding and haggis as well. Ignore the burgers.

[@tim66612343]

You were at Tot Hill Services on the A34 where the Instavolt chargers are. Really expensive ones too!

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Dave The Small Blue car at the services was a Vauxhall Corsa, the UK brand of the baby car from Stellantis.

[@ShawnGBR]

3:15 that’s a Vauxhall Corsa. They’re now owned by Stellantis but they were a GM owned thing for decades. So decades ago America would have the Chevy Nova and Britain would have the Vauxhall Nova and so on.

[@ShawnGBR]

43:55 the CCS Combo plug has pins mulling because those are the ones for AC charging (which Level 3 DC doesn’t technically need so the plug doesn’t have them) and the Level 2? My guess was for plug-in hybrids (but Tesla doesn’t have hybrids). Maybe they’re in there because Tesla intend to open their network to non-Tesla EVs and the Level 2 cars can charge there too? That’s my guess.

[@ShawnGBR]

*pins missing

[@karlwest437]

Glad you had a good time, wish the weather had been better for you but that's England 😂 come back soon!

[@stephenbagwell8275]

I would have charged overnight at Arden Street Stratford Upon Avon or used Genie Point at the Morrisons Pity that there’s a Tesla showroom but no superchargers

[@markmosley3547]

Driving in Oxford was a strategic error.

[@MOOTANT1]

Such a shame you got bad weather though

[@GregPearson-wg2tv]

You should have visited Blenheim Palace whilst you were in the Oxford area.

[@adwol48]

I think Mg is one the fastest growing car brands in the UK. Many people like to reminisce about MG B's etc maybe even the MG F but MG doesn't hold that kind of pedigree badge anymore not since Rover cars got re-badged as MG. MG is a brand I would consider simply on value especially now that the MG4 comes with a lifetime warranty on the battery. Also SAIC under the MG name have now launched the Cyberster a very cool looking car that is one of the few two seater sports cars thats electric.

[@simplygregsterev]

Outside of a dying base of loyalists nobody really remembers old MG

[@barryh1477]

It was good thank you ❤

[@kevinmair7571]

My previous cars must have been real rubbish because I love my blue MG4 Trophy.

[@e-trippingwithadamgebbett8024]

Dave, we have a dry and mostly sunny summer. You arrive and it rains. Could it be a sign. Those Gridserve charging stations are old 50kw units. Most Motorway service have 150kw min units. Stratford upon Avon is truly beautiful.

[@JuicyJohnEV]

I have a Cupra Born. It’s owned by VAG and is basically an ID3

[@crabdonkey6381]

Yellow lights at crosswalk!

[@gbphil]

Nice European series, congrats to you both. Your experience at charging in the U.K. definitely puts me off EV’s for another five years, especially as you need to go into a town or head for a Motorway to charge and I generally head for country lanes, country pubs, remote villages and towns off the beaten track. 😱😎😇

[@TassieEV]

Black Pudding is delicious not sure what you are talking about, Haggis is also amazing. Need to expand your culinary tastes guys. :) Could be the one you had wasn't made with good spices and such but each is unique. I have got my kids to try it and one of them likes it as much as I do. Yes when I was in Canada my taste buds were far too atuned to fast foods and zero taste food but now I hardly ever go to fast foods I like proper food by good chefs/cooks, having lived in Australia for 20yrs plus now and some amazing friends/colleagues who have turned me into a foodie that includes Thai curries, Japanese, Meditterranean, French, Russian, and includes Black Pudding and Haggis now and includes wild game as well such as venison and rabbit.

[@robmccaw9956]

Its not a 2024 model as in July 2023 they received a minor upgrade that included a rear wiper and 4 roof hand grips amongst a few other minor things. I have one of the first ‘upgraded’ ones in NZ. A software update mid this yeqr improved the LKA and a few other issues.

[@pppscooby]

Interesting that the Mercedes amg gt coupe wasn’t there in Windsor, it’s nearly always there as you enter the long walk / great park, Should have parked up and walked into the long walk and looked left, 5 mins max, excellent view of windsor castle

[@wakeywarrior]

You got the charging cables mixed up at the Oxford Supercharger. The top larger one is CCS (the newer type now standard throughout Europe).

[@outofspecdave1554]

Oops

[@Jeddin]

@@outofspecdave1554Tesla developed the Model S with a DC port before CCS came out. In the USA they developed what is now called NACS. In Europe they modfied what is known as a Mennekes port. They reason they didnt just use same plug as in North America is because NACS is designed for single phase electricity but in Europe 3 phase is common so they had to adpot a plug that handled 3 phase power. However when CCS came out as a standard the EU mandated all car makers use CCS so Tesla had to switch. But they have dual charging handles to maintain support for older model S that still use the original Mennekes plug.

[@FrankNolf]

You were at a v2 SuC. The top is the standard CCS2 and the other connector is a proprietary Tesla connector based on the Mennekes type 2 connector for older pre CCS2 Tesla model s

[@johnpoldo8817]

Enjoyed shadowing your vacation viewing the architecture and charging infrastructure which is far from ideal, but better than USA. While traveling far from home, experiencing the local cuisine is most appealing to us. Never a fast food burger place or chain coffee shop. Instead, the fish & chips restaurant or mom & pop capacino cafe.

[@stephenwensley9328]

There are many better charging locations near all the places in the videos. E.g. Exeter the first stop is a city of 100k people with 60 or so Tesla chargers at two sites plus another 30 or so CCS2 350kw chargers, plus several older slower chargers

[@_Dougaldog]

The 38% additional tax is being applied by EU (as of 4th July), UK is no longer an EU member, so not sure if UK will follow suit. USA just applied similar to Chinese EVs, but at 100%...

[@colingoode3702]

You were unlucky with the weather but it looks like you had a good time. We take a lot of our country for granted so to hear you guys raving about our towns & countryside is a wakeup call for us Brits to cherish what we have more than we do. As for EV's, in the UK they are so overpriced with high import / new car taxes & dealer margins. We have a 64kWh Hyundai Kona which we bought used at 1 year old & 5k miles for half the price when it was new! New EV & ICE car depreciation is savage which is why we only buy used cars now. New cars are only for those that lease or get company cars.

[@PierreSimonsson]

2:34 Cupra is not a underbrand to Seat any more the car compandy rebranded to Cupra alltogether. but also the Brand Cupra is a part of the WW group togther with Audi WW Cupra and Skoda.

[@RWBHere]

1:04 - There was hardly anyone in there because it was Starbucks.

[@grumblewoof4721]

Warwick ... silent second w... so Warrick, the a is "ah"...or even "or". Some local and regional accents will change English words quite a bit. Keep trying, you will get there. The English folks will always politely correct you.

[@peterengland6153]

20th Sept 2024 MG Australia reduced the price of the MG4 to $21,800 USD

[@fenegroni]

The Standard Edition MG4 will charge at peak of 88kW (91 on the charger)

[@brentmeistergeneral1054]

My SE LR charges at up to 130kw. I have seen it well over 100.

[@timoliver8940]

Oh Dave how could you not even try the Bkackpudding, I used to think I wouldn’t like it and was served it with breakfast on a flight and it’s wonderful And the Spanish car maker is Say-At not seat (you sit on those not drive them!)

[@outofspecdave1554]

I did try it then did my research as to what it was; buyers remorse set in quickly haha

[@alanrickett2537]

I am not a fan of black pudding but did you like it before you did the research?​@@outofspecdave1554

[@frank6708]

Its a vauxhall/opel corsa dezelfde als een peugeot 208 van het stellantis concern.

[@PierreSimonsson]

44:04 This is the Tesla SUC Version 2 they have both CCS 2 and The Other plugg is for Old Model s and Model X that has The Plug that looks like Type2 plug in europe. Version 3 and 4 SUC only has the CCS2 Plugg. in Europe. the new Model sand X also has CCS2 tht is Why the new SUC version 3 and 4 has only CCS2.

[@paulclark6090]

@@PierreSimonsson and just to add, the older MS and MX can use an adapter (the wiring needs an upgrade from Tesla to allow) so these older cars can charge at the newer CCS only chargers.

[@73henny]

Should have gone to the Fastned on the south side of Oxford.

[@libertykrueger1433]

William Shakespeare or Sir Francis Bacon?

[@RWBHere]

Seat is 'Say-at'. Two syllables, not one.

[@SimonEllwood]

I think you managed to find some of the worst places to charge in the area where you were. 79p per kWH is also very expensive. The Girdserve chargers are very old. You were precisely the wrong way around on your old and new plugs the single plug was for older S and X that do not have CCS2 Combo. Those Tesla chargers are also pretty old all the new ones have just the CCS2 Combo. The older vehicles can be upgraded to charge on the new chargers using an adapter. Try Parkopedia and Zapmap next time!

[@stephenwensley9328]

There needs to be an out of spec Dave tours channel, China or Japan next?

[@outofspecdave1554]

Looking to take Kathy up to Quebec City this fall

[@stever656]

The Tariffs put on Chinese cars has not happened in UK only Europe we put 10% on all imported cars like Europe but Europe has added the extra percentage on top by specific brand Tesla will now have 19% total slapped on for all cars imported from China the UK has not followed suit yet and their are doubts it will

[@brentmeistergeneral1054]

Nice video. Shame you don't love the MG4 as much as I do but hey life would be boring if we were all the same right? One thing that surprised me was that you said that you had a few issues with Apple Car Play which is surprising to me. I use Android Auto with my MG4 SE-LR and it has been flawless for well over a year (since I bought a dedicated data cable for the car). So possible rrasons could be: Apple Car Play works less well than Android, the Infotainment is clunkier on the Trophy model (that you had) than my SE-LR or maybe your cable wasn't up to the job?

[@jovceata]

BMW iX3 is also made in China

[@grumblewoof4721]

I am looking to lease an MG 4 and sell my BMW 330e plug in hybrid. Good deals on leasing EV's right now and I expect the government will introduce tariffs on Chinese EV's like the US (100% !!!) and the EU has.

[@bellshooter]

Why on earth would you stop at a services with a couple of slow chargers to wait when there are multiple places en-route with a dozen or more ultra rapids? Do you not have Plugshare or ZapMap on your phone?

[@outofspecdave1554]

I do. Just happened that way this time

[@barryhumphries4514]

What, you tried to pay in French francs that don't exist anymore or Euros that have never been accepted currency in the UK. We still use the Pound Sterling! Not even USD either, what a surprise to Americans... 🤷🏽‍♂

[@outofspecdave1554]

She had a plastic bag filled with really old coins and bills from years ago haha

[@keithshayle7027]

You will quickly realise parking is a major issue in the UK, so much so you just don't drive to certain locations as you know you won't be able to park. Windsor for example is somewhere where you just don't bother to visit because of parking. By the way it's the King who usually stays at Windsor Castle not Prince William. Also I think you may have missed the very centre of Oxford, even for an English person such as myself who is used to the old historic buildings, the centre of Oxford, particularly when you walk around all the different colleges (many famous for all the Primeministers and senior members of government that studied at them) as they are truly spectacular. In fact it's funny to see how some US universities tried to copy the architecture, to give them a sense of history! Finally and despite Oxfords local government anti car policies, its one of the few places relatively easy to find (albeit expensive) parking.

[@stephenbagwell8275]

I managed to park ok in Windsor & have got the train there from Slough I saw President Biden’s helicopter flying away from the castle

[@blairjayson]

Anyone notice the exorbitant fees for DC fast charging at that Oxford service station? 79p per kWhr!!!, that's over $US 1.00 . For comparison a Tesla model 3 takes about 25kWhr to travel 100 miles, so the cost would be over $US 25 per 100 miles. A Toyota Prius ICE will do that on 2 US gallons of dinosaur juice, or roughly $US 7 currently in midwest USA. Dave probably could've had a lower kWhr rate with a charger membership plan, but this is one of the causes why EV adoption is relatively slow here in US vs. Europe.

[@tim66612343]

Some are 85p per KWh. Thankfully Tesla superchargers are more like 40p and sometimes 22p outside normal hours. Gas is also a lot more expensive compared to the US. % EV sales were 19% in June.

[@stevehammond9318]

@@blairjayson just for reference 1 litre of petrol in the UK costs around $1.75 and Tesla superchargers cost between $0.40 and $0.66 per kWh

[@JuicyJohnEV]

3:33 Vauxhall Corsa

[@JohnoEx]

Should have charged at the supercharger, most of them are open to all cars and they are way cheaper than the gridserve you charged at Dave.

[@Toadhall22]

When in the UK, Warwick should be pronounced Worrik

[@outofspecdave1554]

Ya… I figured that out halfway through the video I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks Thanks for watching !

[@PierreSimonsson]

That Tesla owner is Crazy to Charge att those chagrers He will Pay 79 Pence on thos chargers but only ¤5-55 pence att Tesla SUC Btw where probly all others CCS 2 Cars can Charge to so Totaly crazy. 3:49

[@alanrickett2537]

Not sure where war-wick castle is but you should have visited Warwick

[@stevoone342]

lol its so funny watching Americans visit the uk doing the typical American visit of the uk. Visiting burger kings, Starbucks but only few uk eatery’s. And seem not to want to visit the north of England, Scotland or wails. Personally im a petrol head love my Range Rover sdv8 4.4, and am probably going to resist not getting an ev. Plus ev will be ever the end of my small business or im going to be forced to put my prices up to compensate, which i do not want to do.. im not a fan of new mg or byd due Chinese cheep rubbish also I don’t agree with the CCP so i try my best to limit what i buy Chinese wear possible. And like with my Range rover try to buy local. But hope you enjoyed your trip but there is seriously a lot more to the uk than London and the south. There’s epic castles, country houses, parks, national parks, market towns, seaside fishing towns and villages and beaches, epic Scottish highlands and welsh mountains and mines and museums and much much more..

[@dandaigle4546]

umm fish and chips :)

[@karlwolf2]

First. Love your work

[@barryhumphries4514]

Whats a Burger King Crown?

[@mmh1197]

Dave be more cosmopolitan, don’t be so afraid of black pudding 😂

[@jackfishcampbell6745]

Such a shame , flying all the way to the UK , and eating bad American junk food 😮

[@outofspecdave1554]

Trust me, we ate a lot of great food the majority of the time :)

[@jackfishcampbell6745]

@outofspecdave1554 I was pulling your leg . I watch a ton of KZbin videos on the UK , and I see a lot of good food . I was only there once back in 1976 , with my parents , back then the food wasn't so great . You guy's make excellent and entertaining videos , keep it up , please .

[@richardgorbutt9349]

Need to have some Gregg's Sausage Rolls. That will complete the experience. (Usually first on my culinary experiences when I pop over back home!)

[@stephenwensley9328]

Right period for Shakey’s house, but you are dealing with a period 500 years ago and few records will have survived, if indeed they recorded the detail in the first place. You’ll have parish records recording a birth and tax records on who owned the property. Whether someone of labouring or merchant classes was born in a property would be a guess based on those, as only the very top of society would have had detailed birth records.

[@rigel1632]

Seat is pronounced Say-at. Warwick pronounced Warrick. And Black pudding is amazing.

[@outofspecdave1554]

Thanks for the 1st two clarifications But the black pudding is just not my cup of tea :)

[@IanMacKinnon-nz3oi]

Your pronunciation of English names is so funny. I wonder if you listen to how the English say words or not?

[@TheGrimStoic]

...there was a cooper here, a...a... subbrand of seet , a... spanish car company... (goes past a vauxhall corsa) boy..I'm so out of my realm...I don't even know what this thing is... eevsham...no, evershaaam... (confesses to trying black pudding innocently) it looks like a sausage...it wasn't good....it wasn't good (and this is all in the first 11 minutes)

[@ShawnGBR]

45:25 - those yellow lights on the striped pole are at pedestrian crossings. Any person with a foot on the road has right of way. And the lights have a name - Belisha Beacons. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belisha_beacon

[@sirgardensalot]

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