Awesome New Chargers In America! Alpitronic HYC400 & ABB Terra 360 Installed At Circle K Test Site

Kyle visits the Circle K Rock Hill, SC testing site to check out some new DC Fast Charging hardware from ABB and Alpitronic! Installed for the first time in the US for public use is the new ABB Terra 360 and the Alpitronic HYC400 - enjoy!
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[@jlujan4]

a charger with useful data and a power plot, my engineering heart and brain are so happy

[@caseyknolla8419]

I fear this will only last as long as it's in "field test" status

[@ToddGlasier]

@@caseyknolla8419 Gosh I hope not. There is a huge need to educate ppl on charging and how it works, and what to do and not do. Like not charge to 100% while others are waiting.

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

My engineering heart and brain say what why does it need lights buttons and switches, more stuff to break down and confuse people.

[@simplygregsterev]

@@ToddGlasier sadly most people don’t care and have no problem going to 100%

[@fededevi1985]

@@universeisundernoobligatio3283 The average EV user today is tech-savvy and appreciate stuff like that, in 10 years it will be different tho

[@marcelreif1836]

Everytime I see an Alpitronics charger in Germany I know that it WILL work. Alpitronic's just the best

[@LearningFast]

Shout out to Branden on the new job with Alpitronic. Looks like they are rolling out some great equipment.

[@ronald4life1]

Circle K is really stepping it up! "Gotta love it" - Seriously though Circle K in europe has been on top of their game with charging and it's so nice to see them also expanding state side! As an AIO unit that's very impressive!

[@alanpeterson6768]

On a trip a couple of months ago, I used the 180kW Circle K charger twice. I was very happy at how easy they were to use and it's the perfect place to stop. We even had a squeegee. I'm really looking forward to these new, bigger chargers. All we need now is a canopy!

[@brandenflasch]

Glad you made it out to check out what I consider to be one of the coolest charging sites in North America (I might be a bit biased 😉)

[@anthonyc8499]

What a cool project you got to spearhead! It’s doubly cool considering the transition to the new role at the best charging hardware companies around. I hope this won’t impact your ability to make CPO site reviews and impressions.

[@Crazypostman]

Congratulations on your new job at alpitronic!

[@usa-ev]

Neat! Congratulations!

[@omelborpon3159]

Thank you, Branden. It's good to know you are on the job.

[@nc3826]

u biased? lmao

[@ezpoppy55]

This is further evidence that the entire world of electric transportation is constantly evolving. From vehicles to motors to batteries to producing and delivering electrons… all of it, unlike the ancient fossil fuel world, is on the move! And this isn’t the last word. More improvements are on the way. Great video as always Kyle!

[@stephenpalmer896]

Where is all the power coming from to power these chargers? Wind turbines? Solar panels? Or perhaps from fossil fuel power generators?

[@EVMan298]

@@stephenpalmer896no

[@newscoulomb3705]

Thank you for the coverage, Kyle. The importance of 400 kW is going to ramp up quickly. The ability to split 500 A at 400 V is super important, and we're starting to see EVs that will require 500 A well past the 700 V limit of the currently deployed 350 kW chargers.

[@chrisw443]

did you see the garbage can with window washers attached? Glorious for any charging site.

[@newscoulomb3705]

@@chrisw443 Definitely. It's a baseline expectation of mine. As much as people diss Walmart sites, at least they have trash cans. And you can always buy a squeegee and windshield cleaner inside. Out West, I think the providers have been doing a much better job of building charging sites at gas stations, but other parts of the country seem to be catching up with chargers going in at Buc-ee's, Pilot, and Wawa.

[@rwjr1944]

You can't beat the enthusiasm of early days. Go Kyle!

[@leopard3c]

ABB had the most common 50KW charger in Europe 4-5 years ago. Then they had a very unreliable 150KW one after that. That made all the provider change to Alpintronic.

[@rukasuara]

ABB Always Be Broken

[@junehanzawa5165]

ABB is useless. They (along with Delta, and to a lesser extent Signet for their surge) should be sued for doing all they can to dampen EV adoption in America. Are they owned, or are getting secretly paid by fossil fuel interest perhaps? They could not possibly be more unreliable. EA should rip down every single one of their units and sue them. ABB = Always Be Broken is absolutely correct. It's awesome that Ipitronic and Kempower are finally rolling out in America.

[@Bud_Terence]

Nice! Finally Alpi brings the juicy stuff. 💪

[@brushlessmotoring]

I am so here for this! Thank you Out Spec / Kyle, no one else is digging into the details of chargers, and talking about why the public network can be so unreliable. Your passion is so appreciated! Didn't know Circle K was Canada based. It is indeed a pivotal year next year for sure, it was so great to see non Tesla's sharing the super chargers with me on my last Montreal to Vancouver EV trip. Great camera work too - how did you keep an iphone so steady and well framed?!

[@simplygregsterev]

Circle K is owned by Couche Tard based in Laval QC

[@benzclan63]

The Alpitronic Hypercharger HYC400 will be installed in the Mercedes-Benz future charging stations and they are one of the best chargers

[@spinf0rk]

This video is longer than the time it took me to charge from 7% to 80% at the charger featured in the video when I stopped there a few weeks ago on a road trip from Charleston, SC to Pittsburgh, PA. It seems to be very nice equipment.

[@usa-ev]

What were you charging? 😀

[@spinf0rk]

@@usa-ev Kia EV6

[@usa-ev]

@@spinf0rk Nice! Congrats!

[@shawnrobinson4142]

Great video. I live about 10mins from that Circle K. I may try out the Alpitronic just for the hell of it.

[@anthonyscott5134]

Circle K? Who’d a thunk it! Of all the businesses in America to do this! Cool!

[@Yanquetino]

Good to hear. Hope to see these proliferate quickly nationwide. I would be happier, however, if they already boasted a NACS connector.

[@jonpetter8921]

If you have great hardware, which connector do you use really doesn t matter.

[@usa-ev]

They will as they roll out, I bet!

[@Hybridog]

More chargers everywhere please! And make them big beefy ones like these - wow that's a lot of amps.

[@peterwright837]

The unmentioned highlight was the trash can with windshield washer in the background. Finally, someone in the US has figured out that EV’s are cars.

[@SpottedSharks]

Two years from now the US fast-charging landscape is going to be so vastly improved as to be unrecognizable.

[@uutube243]

No way. Nothing on west coast and nothing being built.

[@anthonyscott5134]

@@uutube243, HUH? Tesla building constantly, BP will be building out their own branded network based on Tesla Superchargers, I believe it was announced today that another Oil company signing on for their own branded Tesla chargers… Ok, Just finished watching this video. Kyle, who studies, researches, built a career on deep diving into this industry, and basically lives, eats, and breathes this stuff, is undeniably excited about what’s coming in, as he mentioned, 2024, and YOU are saying no way? So what exactly is your expertise on this industry? What actual research have you conducted? What manufacturers have you spoken with? I’ll wait for your response, but until then, I think I’ll go with what Kyle says.

[@Lynyrd_Evnyrd]

@@uutube243there seem to be a lot of Tesla Superchargers over there

[@thedopplereffect00]

Very unlikely. Still 150+ distance between chargers in many areas

[@anthonyscott5134]

@@thedopplereffect00 , What’s very unlikely? I have no clue about the 150 miles you speak of, but you’re actually thinking that in two years the U.S. fast charging landscape won’t be vastly improved? He didn’t say it would be on par with gas stations, he said it would be vastly improved. I can imagine you at the dawn of the automobile telling everyone “That thing is just a fad! They’ll never replace the horse and buggy! I saw three of them today being pulled by a horse and buggy!”. I can also picture you after the wright brothers first flight saying “ If man were meant to fly, he’d have wings”. Heck, I bet when Tesla first came out you were probably just like those videos of the CEO’s of the big auto manufacturers who were making such confident statements that Tesla would never make it. LOL

[@nightwing2012]

Yea! Thanks to Out of Spect Looked up and Circle K is starting to roll out in San Diego county.!

[@cms1104]

I love seeing Alpitronic getting into the North American market. They will be the biggest competition for Tesla SC hardware. Forget ABB (always be broken). The Italians/South-Tyrolians can be proud of such a company like Alpitronic.

[@dan_taninecz_geopol]

South Tyrol, my favorite place on earth. How do I buy Alpitronic stock?

[@selbyjohnson5986]

It seems to work so that’s a step in the right direction! Hopefully they will continue to be reliable.

[@volvocars5189]

Thats what we have at Circle K in Sweden and Norway, mostly HYC 300 and Terra 360 thou. And CK have also recently enabled Autocharge on their Hyperchargers, no support on ABB units yet.

[@jimparr5412]

Come on Alpitronic charges. Roll out everywhere!

[@martinsoendergaard-jensen9602]

That interface is a newer default interface for Hyperchargers, I’ve seen it on their smaller 50kW units

[@ahbushnell1]

They are SiC MOSFET switches not rectifiers. But the MOSFETS can be controlled ship power in both directions assuming they are configured that way.

[@esprit1st75]

Wish they would have also tested with an 800V car! ⚡⚡⚡

[@cms1104]

At least on the Alpitronic we know they would do fine. 😊

[@Lynyrd_Evnyrd]

I prefer the Test they did which showed how the charger could output 500 amps simultaneously to two vehicles. Very very impressive 👍

[@Eric-xp1kl]

Kyle, welcome back to the Carolinas! How did you get to that data screen in the Rivian? Circle K is doing a great job in the Carolinas with these fast chargers. I've found them to be very reliable & fast. Rivian RANs have been the only chargers that are better as they are plug-and-play.

[@lowfuel6089]

Kyle, would love it if you could do an update on all things public DC fast charging. There was so much buzz last year leading up to this March, but ever since Rivian and Ford gained supercharger access and then Tesla let their their supercharger team go, it's been crickets. I haven't seen any improvement on existing networks, haven't seen any new deployments, and no news at all on when other manufacturers will get NACS. It seems bleak! Maybe a podcast episode?

[@scottowens4670]

Kyle, rumor is Ionna is using Alpitronic 400 at their new location in Houston. When are you going to snag an interview with Ionna? It looks like they are cranking up!

[@dandaigle4546]

thanks Kyle, a ton of information to process, love your enthusiasm

[@andreatoffolo3488]

Brenden flasch model y spotted😀😀 Cherrs from italy

[@koaschten]

around 9:45 in the night shot, is that a KIA EV6 on the HYC400? did you check how fast it charged and what the charging curve looked like?

[@ErichHafenmaier]

Strange things are afoot at the Circle K. 🎸

[@Johan87577]

Oh CK chargers. We have those in Sweden. It’s pretty good chargers

[@ahbushnell1]

SiC MOSFETS can run at higher frequencies then IGBT's. So my guess is they are operating above the audio frequency band. SiC MOSFETs are great.

[@ScottFletcher-r3x]

I use this one when i travel to Ga or FL

[@Maunose]

A Spanish company called Zunder is installing those ABB Terra 360 all around Spain. Unfortunately charging infrastructure in Spain and specially in Portugal still sucks, too few chargers, sites are too far apart from each other and there are a lot of 50kW chargers…

[@kruemelfelix]

We will see on how many weeks this Terra 360 holds up without breaking down :D ABB is known for faulty chargers here in Europe too. No one wants them and in fact Fastned replaced all their ABBs With Alpitronics and sells them now at a reduced price to interested people. Seeing that Alpitronic however is just really cool! Finally the US gets some proper competition to Tesla.

[@Jcesare09]

Kyle thanks for this great info but there is any news on how this is going to expand on the rest of USA?

[@chrisw443]

A GARBAGE CAN! WITH WINDOW WASHER ATTACHED?! HOLY SHIT! NOW THATS GROUNDBREAKING!

[@LittleSpot]

a video that needs to be linked in the wikipedia article for "nerd" . I like it 🥰

[@davebryer6133]

I am glad some places get nice chargers, North Central and North East WI have diddly squat for charging, even Tesla chargers are few and far between. So is this a chicken and egg question, which comes first the cars or the chargers,?

[@usa-ev]

Definitely chargers. Tesla realized this early. Everyone else just figured it out this year.

[@usa-ev]

14:00 "We're all familiar with Lincoln Electric switch gear." 😂

[@ManfredvonHolstein]

These Alpitronic chargers including charging curve display etc are standard in Germany. You used one there yourself in Ludwigsburg…

[@thedopplereffect00]

As much as I would hate hanging out at a gas station I hope they install more. Can't visit family in our Tesla because nearest charger is over 70 miles away and doesn't give us enough margin for a several day visit. Still glad I have a gas car.

[@trevorross1311]

Rivian was ripping it at the charge,pretty sweet.

[@cmwalona]

Can these chargers be used with just a credit card or you have to download a specific app only to use?

[@tkmedia3866]

Reminds me of the old recargo units with charging curves on the screen.

[@leemiller2307]

How do you get to that information screen on the Rivian? I can not locate it on my truck. Does screen access require the Out of Spec Reviews secret decoder ring? Thanks for all of the great information. And, Yes, I chose the R1T over the Lightening because of your enthusiasm for the truck.

[@DvACtOid]

I love the physical button design. Manufactures have to realize that the touch screen just doesn't work in outdoor environment. There is water and cold temperature, touch screen simply won't work.

[@dominicsantiago6506]

Hello please forgive my question as I am new to EV ownership. Most recently both me and my wife leased Kia EV6's. One day we decided to take one for a test drive and she really liked it and so did I. We were a bit concerned with moving away from our ICE vehicles most because of range anxiety and charging infrastructure. She was first to jump in and I fell in love with hers than traded my ICE vehicle for one. So now we are all in even our house is also total electric. Not that we are climate activist but it's just the way things turned out with this house. We immediately installed a level two charger and have been very happy with our decision. My concern is what will happen once we have more EV's on the road and more charging going on with the grid already pretty fragile in some areas. I don't hear of much talk about improving the energy grid to support the growth of everything going electric.

[@Smidge204]

Strange things are afoot at the Circle K...

[@newscoulomb3705]

11:44 Circle K has been doing a great job of building their sites very rapidly, but unfortunately, even they will probably be limited in the speed of their deployment in California.

[@anthonyc8499]

Despite CA’s desire and needs for HPC infrastructure, the permitting process seems really onerous.

[@rival121]

@@anthonyc8499EA chargers in UTC San Diego built and unused, waiting for completion permits and SDGE since late 2021, almost 2 years!

[@bryaneddy2155]

Kyle, what Ride app are you using in particular? And how does one go about installing on the R1T?

[@JessePike5]

Charger Full Sends!!!

[@scottm.456]

I'm curious what adapter you're using on the Model Y. I just bought a Model Y and I have some EVGo credits I need to use up. I know Tom was saying don't use cheap Chinese adapters and there are plenty of cheap adapters on eBay etc.

[@hanklee3864]

How did you get to the battery health page.

[@2EpicEVs]

That’s what I am wondering also

[@ourv9603]

You know who should & might take over as the worlds #1 EV charging sites? Restaurants. You could plug in & go inside for a bite or maybe just coffee & do work on your device. In half hour, your car is done. !

[@stevecagle8002]

Awesome.. Good Info.. Thanks

[@theogehling]

I have been charging on one of these new abb units a couple of times now and I haven't had the best experience to be honest. The screen was dead once with the charger still working and in general the scene is pretty laggy compared to other chargers I have used. Also it says 925v max?

[@Termnath]

Still no awnings is crazy

[@bryancarter5161]

Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.

[@DazedSean]

Rivian slow charges typically until the battery pack hits 55 degrees

[@fergman300]

Doesn't Charge Point have 400kw chargers at the Mercedes headquarters already installed and soon to have 500KW.

[@aussie2uGA]

Given how many chargers still get backed into, even with the poles in the ground, how safe would this be if the unit was hit and dislodged from the ground?

[@ericcindycrowder7482]

Kyle, if you’re reading, let me know if you want to have a go in an Gen2 NSX…..

[@jhomen2003]

How did the sessions go ? Any issues ?

[@deanhammond2129]

How many are there?

[@jacecole]

Kyle what tires are you running on the R1T? Did you talk to Nokian about an OOS discount? :)

[@artofnoise5013]

Does that screen need a peel or is it just really dirty?

[@danletsch9504]

Strange things are afoot at the circle K.

[@jonnyslick81]

Something strange is afoot at the circle k!

[@ronfischer191]

Why do I think the new software is aimed right at Kyle and Tom...

[@dpsingh6421]

We have seen that the CCS1 cables are heavy and cumbersome to work with. How do they compare with the CCS2 cables, used in Europe?

[@Mariini]

Quite same, without that lock button thingy.

[@rhackenb1]

How are you paying for it? Do you have a credit card on file with Circle K? Is Circle K making money on the charge?

[@Alex-je6od]

HOW THE HELL DID YOU GET ACCESS TO THE RIDE APP? The passcode is currently unknown 🤯 Any hints would be appreciated.

[@victorseal9047]

Yippee ! 😅

[@tracyt4327]

If the cable is a limiting factor due to current, why don't the vehicles come with more than one charging ports?

[@Crazypostman]

Money is the limiting factor. They make cables that can push more than enough power but they cost more

[@usa-ev]

Also diminishing returns, especially for the complexity.

[@stephenpalmer896]

In the time it took for him to get to 6 minutes into his video, my Blazer SUV would have been fully filled and I'd be on my way. Meanwhile he's blathering on about how awesome all this tech is. There are vast swaths of the country where EV's will never be a great idea or even a moderately good one.

[@SamuraiTacos1]

this is what we need ea can't get there crap together

[@xrotaryguy]

Problems soved? Where in Europe is it commonly 117° F? Arizonans want to know.

[@Shelbyj13]

The color on that Tesla is SWEET!!!!

[@barryw9473]

Any evidence that EA is getting rid of Huber+Suhner cables?

[@Those_Weirdos]

Can't wait for these to roll out and never work anywhere.

[@freddiecarr7602]

Here in San Dimas CA, you simply get up early to fight for a 5 am spot at a free level 2 charger---the city has 9 I counted. Plug in your Tesla, have your wife pick you up in the Escalade and come back at 5 pm after work---screw the level 2 people like me who drive PHEV'S!

[@jasonpowell584]

I can still fill my gas tank in 2 mins haha

[@EVMan298]

Don’t believe you

[@jasonpowell584]

@@EVMan298 my gas tank is 7 gallons and the fuel rate of a gas pump is 6.5-7 gpm hahaha

[@EVMan298]

@@jasonpowell584 so you steal fuel?

[@jasonpowell584]

@@EVMan298 it’s not hard to look up the follow rate to a gas pump. Lmfao

[@EVMan298]

@@jasonpowell584 nor is it to look up the power rating of a DC charger.

[@Flash1857]

Seems something is afoot at the Circle K

[@gunmeat1]

Arms wide open thumbnail

[@JohnCline]

What the heck is a Magna?

[@usa-ev]

Contract car maker and tier 1 supplier. They make the Fisker Ocean for example. (iirc)

[@50cts]

You could think someone is sponsored by Phoenix Contact. I prefer Huber & Suhner much more when it comes to handling. Cable way more flexible, plug easier to plug in one handed. The Phoenix Contact handle is often a literal pain one handed.

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

No NACS connectors, this charging station is already out of date,

[@davidbaker9943]

Finally

[@Flash1857]

Seems EV charging sites aren’t ADA yet, looks difficult for someone in a wheelchair to access the equipment

[@honesty_-no9he]

PLEASE WIPE THE SCREEN

[@jps30]

Do you know much about the roll out of 7/11's chargers? I've seen reports of expansion early 2024, but don't really believe it.

[@peterjaniceforan3080]

⚡️⚡️⚡️

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

2:00 - If you don't count the couple MCS installations for class 8 trucks…

[@simson4t]

Cables under 500 amps should be banned. It's a joke in 2023.

[@Crazypostman]

To be fair it's a good way to save money, The ROI is already not good in the DC fast charging market.and most EVs wouldn't be able to charge at 500 amps for more than 10 minutes. And that adds up to a significant amount if you're putting a lot of units in.