Unboxing My Own DC Fast Charger! Starting The High Power EV Charging Series

[@KyleConner]

So excited to share this video with you and the entire series! Absolutely epic to play around with some DCFC stuff. Can’t promise videos will come quickly, but I’ll be filming everything possible with this process ⚡️

[@pvtmalvadisco6842]

The day has come! Super excited to see the video and thinking about the journey ahead. We have some very interesting videos to look forward to! Thanks for bringing us this great content Kyle!!

[@toofast4radar]

That's straight up baller getting a DC Fast Charger! I love my Autel MaxiCharger. It was one of the best upgrades to my garage over the portable unit I was using for a few years. It would be cool to set up the DCFC for public use by payment and see how much you make vs electrical costs over a month or two. Put a video camera on the parking spot for the charger.

[@woodlerhenry]

This was a fantastic video! There is literally no one out there making content with their personal DC Fast Chager. Congradulations on an amazing milestone. #mindblown #autel #dcfc #charging

[@Slebonson]

Love to see this and now my dream of getting a Megapack delivered to my house is a possibility!

[@wasabi521]

This is sickkkkk.

[@drexrew]

Credit to Autel for taking a leap on providing a long term loan review unit to Out of Spec with no strings attached. Not a lot of companies would take that chance.

[@kylecordes]

This is really raising the bar on EV KZbin channels. How can I take someone seriously now if they don't even have their own fast charger? 😂

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

I got a charger on cheap - kinda half fast.

[@medivelmack]

Fast forward 5 years Kyle has his own DC fast charging network that put EA out of business

[@jm100368]

EVTV did years ago

[@JordanHenionStormChasing]

How jealous is Tom Moloughney right now?

[@brich2929]

Right?

[@petertraveller6421]

His last name is too difficult, I can only remember Molo

[@jamespaul2587]

Very much so, they'll have to keep Tom and his truck away from the garage while it's in storage! 😊

[@davidbaker9943]

Lol

[@xrotaryguy]

😂😅🤣

[@stevenichols4639]

This is the kind of Content the EV business needs. It will greatly help both consumers and potential buyers to understand what’s involved in obtaining provisioning, and operating a ChargePoint. I can’t wait to see what happens.

[@davenz000]

It should also dispel some of that FUD that fast chargers are needed everywhere like gas/ petrol stations. I don't have a petrol station in my home / garage or driveway. Nor need a fast charger for anything other than long trips.

[@tomm5936]

Kyle gets super excited all the time but this beats anything seen before 😂

[@kingzorb]

LOL -- I agree, next level Kyle excitement on this video! It's a little bit too contagious!

[@tomm5936]

@@kingzorb yes “next level Kyle excitement” is exactly right 😂 I admit I got excited too. I had to do something else but when this video showed up I absolutely had to watch it immediately.

[@christopherberg6166]

I would suggest putting in a 600a frame sized breaker that is adjustable (an ETU) so you can change the trip settings in the future when you get a new charger that has a different trip requirement. You can oversize the conduit and conductors too, so you won’t have to swap out those. Also, I’d recommend “skid mounting” the charger so it’s easier to swap out when you get a different one down the line.

[@MikesMeltdown-sj8df]

Considering the Tesla V4 is supposed to be 1000v 615a max, yeah, they need to put in a bigger breaker and cables to accommodate larger charges in the future.... but this is a university, so they often do things and redo things and redo things.

[@freddiecarr7602]

This video knocked it out of the park! Beautiful panel work---coming from a man closing his shop this week---after 45 years!

[@andr0373]

Thanks for sharing. There is a lot of curiosity around these and it is really admirable of Autel to open up their process. They get huge props and I'll be supporting their charging systems in the future because of this.

[@darwking8188]

First line of the video: "maybe I should read the instruction manual...nahhh". Haha you love to hear it, what could go wrong. Wonder what Brandon Flasch would say :)

[@minecraftchest1]

I can't believe that you guys are starting a whole new niche on KZbin!

[@lovedfriend2020]

I know! A private company testing public-type chargers!

[@carlagat1075]

I haven't seen Kyle this excited since the Twizzy. I'm looking forward to the installation and the testing.

[@newworldodor2641]

Kyle has amassed a lot of knowledge about DC charging. Both technical and HMI. Having the actual hardware is a great opportunity. I'm anxious to learn how this thing turns 3 phase AC into DC. I'm impressed that something so powerful is in a single cabinet and air cooled.

[@brandenflasch]

You’re lucky you surround yourself with smart professionals in this industry ⚡️

[@BroncoPH]

Kyle you are pioneering the details of EV that nobody else is doing. It seems nerdy now but you are educating a horde or future EV nerds that will annoy their friends with all their EV knowledge and ultimately create tons of knowledgeable champions for this technology. Who knows where EV is going to be in 10 years but the more people that actually understand it the better it will be.

[@MrDgt66]

The tilt indicator is working pretty simple I guess. If the box was tilted a certain degree, the little steelball will come out of its pocket and land in another one, indicating the degree of the maximum tilt, that the box was "suffering" during the shipping. Never seen one before, but it should work like that.

[@edgarbrazda9359]

Hi Kyle, just a suggestion about the placement: please, think about the charger as a sculpture, a showpiece, an educational object, not as a 'charger'. When you look for a place you want to walk around it, you want to open all doors and show it to interested students, drivers etc. It will need pavement around it (not soil and bushes around the slab). So, don't squeeze it in a corner. The video is great as usual, thank you for the great job you do for us.

[@AaronHope_Sow]

We bought around a dozen DCFCs from a competing brand for a school system and they ran $24k per unit. Level 2 dual stalls were around $16K each. Extra cost to consider is in conduit runs from the closest transformer, electrical service panel upgrades, concrete pad, stanchion, installation. internet connectivity, setup and ongoing monthly fees for the payment processing and management software. Biggest question we have now is how to setup the charger visibility so that they are not publicly available during school hours.

[@toddkovalcik332]

You're correct. I'm guessing at least $50-$100k all in for design, engineering , permitting and construction costs.

[@johnpoldo8817]

This DC Fast Charger looks like it costs $75-100K. How much power can you get from a $24K model?

[@tomcat124us]

I am glad your thinking about public use during non-school hrs since it's publicly funded

[@TheDrivenDave]

Huge congratulations to you all Kyle! I can’t think of a better media outlet than out of spec for this. You are going to do some amazing content with this!!

[@micah_v1]

Okay but this is literally the most Kyle thing ever. How I did not see this coming I am not sure😂 So awesome.

[@ChrisPaceAZ]

Can't wait to come up to FC to see this in person. So awesome and so Kyle!

[@ObserverDingue]

WOW!!! Your brimming enthusiasm is what powers your channel(s) Kyle. This is a project I will be looking forwards to every episode of. Brilliant. Kudos to Autel for engaging, and investing, in public exploration of EV charging. They couldn't have picked a better youtube outfit to do this with. If you're watching, Kempower...

[@joetripp123]

I love that you get so excited over this stuff. You're living your dream and that's so cool to see.

[@lucasdumartin8349]

The emergency stop is supposed to always be user accessible in case of emergency even by a user or a professional. A basic example would be if a firefighter needs to do something on a car that is still connected to the charger, they need to be able to shut it down for good.

[@sp3lllz]

Excited to see this saga unfold. Man I love KZbin.

[@kevinwhited984]

As someone who was responsible for EV infrastructure at a Big 10 University, I’ll be super impressed if they can get it up and running in three weeks. It took me nearly a year to get two level two chargers installed. Btw, nice job on acquiring the charger and good luck. I’m looking forward to the future content on this project.

[@DouglasJMark]

Thanks Kyle. This is absolutely the biggest unboxing I have ever seen! Have fun with this. Lots of love to all.❤❤❤

[@StubbyStan28]

I'm so excited to see this process. It's going to be such an education for all of us CCS drivers as to what the difficulties are with maintaining the charging infrastructure for charge point manufacturing. Congratulations, OoS, for all the work the team has done through the years. You've truly earned all of your success and I look forward to witnessing the future!

[@TobyMichaelPortableTechReview]

I work for the number 1 provider of fuel station equipment in the US. We acquired a dc fast charger company but I never even considered “review” units. You’ve sparked my interest in finding out more about it.

[@alberts8075]

Out of Spec - Never was the channel name more appropiate

[@DAVIDTATLITUG]

Man o Man do I wish I was younger and in the market. One thing you should hit on with these homes is that neighborhoods built with this process will not turn into run down eyesores as so much of America has become. Wouldn't it be nice for once to be able to stay put (if your want) because the homes next to you and down the block are still looking great 60 years from now. I just sold my home in Florida that was built 17 years ago and the wear on the home was unbelievable. These printed homes are going to change everything. Great job. Can't wait to walk through one. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@abraxastulammo9940]

20:04 What a big box, Aral Pulse has also started to deploy VW integrated LFP based DC chargers in my area that only require little power (battery boosts the charge). 👍

[@jaymontange8260]

Utility friends are best friends of a EV owner. That is just awesome.

[@hi55us2]

Really cool! This is going to be a great learning experience for out of spec and your viewers, so pumped to be a part of it!

[@jondomachowski1915]

Thoughts on the project: Get a mega-pack or equivalent donated/made (possibly a school project), maybe get the university to redirect (A/B switch) solar and wind to the battery pack, and put that inline with the charger to defer the day-time cost of charging students/faculty/staff charging. A school/OutOfSpec study on small install DC fast chargers with supplemental "green" energy can be a school project and feasibility study done to see what "mom and pop" small companies might expect. :) looking forward to the progress...

[@SpottedSharks]

Now you can mock EA on a whole new level! "Well MY DCFC has a 100% uptime, what's your problem, EA?"

[@jamespaul2587]

That's assuming this unit works all the time. Perhaps it will work 100% 60% of the time

[@stephenboyington630]

EA is very very poor at maintaining their network.

[@rdr3682]

That's awesome Kyle! We're super excited too for all your reviews!

[@BrianRoche]

If you're going to pour / run conduit, looks like you can at least fit two units in there so site prep for more than one might be worthwhile. Test the next thing on spot 2 and gives you flexibility to clear out spot 1 (Autel) for a new one or whatever in the future.

[@scottwilson2859]

That's pretty cool. It is good that you'll get to see the business end of the credit card reader so you'll know more about what a joy or disaster it is. One thing to consider is explaining through diagrams the exact path that the three-phase takes as it goes through the charger and into a car. All the switching, all the voltages and currents. That would be educational.

[@NAHWTV]

So cool! Can't wait to see the backend and all the juicy details!

[@pj3200]

this is awesome!! love your enthusiasm! really interested to see how the power agreements work with this scale of energy

[@thomaswilliams6155]

"The right tool for the job" such an important saying. You rock bro, i dont car what tool you use to open it with.

[@JamesWindland]

5 years from now......... The Out of Spec charging network becomes a nationwide charging network!

[@Harrythehun]

Haha would be great. But we want them to make money and not to go bankrupt…..the charging industry is a giant money loosing business.

[@douglashempel8037]

I love Alyssa's inability to control herself and *not* peel the film! :)

[@racing8872]

This is so exciting Going where no other You-tuber has gone Keep the videos coming

[@MustafaDane]

This video will be very useful when i order mine. Thanks Kyle!

[@totaled108]

The tilt watch shows how far it has been tilted during transit, the ball sits at the steepest tilt angle in the direction the ball traveled.

[@TechnicalLee]

Yup, somebody tilted it pretty far to the right.

[@dandaigle4546]

holy smokes Kyle, your excitement is intoxicating, love your knowledge on this subject, love the ev's tested, sweet

[@danjonwig17]

Wonderful to see. I’ve noted 25kW DC chargers (not ‘fast’ I guess) that are less than an order of magnitude more expensive than a decent AC wall box. It would be interesting to see a review of something at that end that isn’t crazy to think about for domestic applications.

[@kingawitek9402]

20-25kW dc chargers cost about 2000-2500USD (only) I wondering why these are not more common

[@TeslaDo_d]

@@kingawitek9402 I think you need to add another 0 to your prices. They are $20k to $25k. I was interested in a ChargePoint L2 AC charger for my CyberTruck in the driveway and I was quoted $5k for the unit alone.

[@alsavage1]

When you consider that a typical residential-use L2 EVSE is basically at the heart of it nothing more than a protocol parser and hardware interface, it's not so surprising that DCFC -- which has actual inverter hardware -- is so much more expensive. Look into what's inside a L2 EVSE and you'll be more amazed that they're as expensive as they are. $500 for a contactor, some wires, a nozzle, and some extremely basic protocol parsing? It's nuts how much money they charge for them. I own three OpenEVSEs -- they can be purchased in kit form and DIY asssembled -- and there's not a lot going on inside them. They don't generate any significant heat because there's no power conversion going on: it just makes sure it's safe to close the (~240VAC) contactor at the right time, after negotiating with the vehicle about how much the vehicle is allowed to draw. If the vehicle draws too much, the EVSE opens the contactor for safety. That's pretty much all it does. The vehicle does all the power conversion and thermal management that goes along with AC->DC conversion. In contrast, a DCFC has a serious thermal management situation, with the power conversion of a much higher level of power than the typical vehicle's onboard charger handles, and the conversion efficiency loss = heat that has to be managed. That's one reason DCFC cabinets are so large: more is going on inside.

[@robertgamble7497]

Have you considered getting a Tesla power pack so you can charge the power pack when electric costs are low, and use the power to charge vehicles anytime?

[@marcusrose5943]

I think Freewire should benext as you don't need alot of power

[@toddkovalcik332]

My guess is that you'll need a load study on that distribution panel and possibly down line panels as well to ensure you do in fact have enough power for that new DCFC. Also, I'm guessing the campus/school will require a stamped drawings from an electrical engineer as well? Looking forward to seeing what the actual requirements will be and the total cost of construction combined with the necessary electrical work. Looks like a fun project!

[@lovedfriend2020]

Watch the power bill SKY ROCKET!

[@TechnicalLee]

Yeah a university building is going to have to go through all the red tape. The campus facilities and business office might have something to say about the power usage and cost as well. Somebody higher up could easily say no and derail the whole thing.

[@fitybux4664]

@@TechnicalLee I'm sure Kyle has backup plan upon backup plan. If the university says no, they are turning down a huge PR opportunity. And Kyle can just rent some commercial warehouse with enough juice and demo it there instead.

[@icarus901]

Wow, that location is amazing. Never underestimate the barriers removed and well-greased impact of building/facilities people who are bought in...makes me miss the all-out nature of university buildings/staff. Sounds quite reasonable that they'll explicitly include out of spec in their planning for lot expansion, and you'll have ability to work together. Seriously, that building and related staff could very reasonably be said to shave multiple $10K (and months) off of the rollout for this new focus. Plus the graphs and monitoring -- a huge value add that you'd need to build from scratch otherwise. Can you tell I'm a bit envious?

[@markg4257]

It’s always best to spend somebody else’s money.

[@bobqzzi]

Some good stuff here- quite the jump for EV product analysis/review.Well done. Looking forward seeing how this works out. Skip to 19:00 to get to actual charger stuff

[@BK-tx2vw]

Very cool Kyle, great content keeping us interested and excited! Thanks Alisa, great filming 😁

[@CrankyOldNerd]

alright so I'm excited to see this. The 'mystery' behind these chargers is too damn high. can't wait to see what you encounter

[@TheFonz01]

This is pretty neat not to mention the building you are in. Glad you did not leave.

[@Ponyo3816]

I'm hoping to learn so much from these videos. Please get this installed ASAP! I know that won't be the case. But I can't wait.

[@ericv.3647]

Now you need to ask Elon for a free Megapack to go with your charger.

[@CorwinPatrick]

and Auto-Bidder for Tariff management.

[@georgepelton5645]

That would really help with Kyle's demand charges. Run properly it could reduce them to zero, by keeping overall building demand plus EV charging less that the max the building alone would take. Paying the demand charge would be less expensive than a megapack, but a free megapack would be awesome!

[@ekaa.3189]

Finally got to watching this one. LOVE IT!!! It will be fun to follow along. On the slab. Make a couple lift points hidden under the unit. That way when finished with it at the test location, the slab can be lifted out of the ground. I'd do the outside overhead conduits. Then run them down to a U conduit in the slab for entry into the unit. Yeah, not pretty, but it is flexible for testing different units in the future. The U conduit could come out of the top of the slab, or out of the side and run to the side of the building and up. A splice box could be mounted high up on the building side. That way the conduit and wires from it to the charger can easily be swapped out for a later test charger. Those demand charges suck. Time to hit up battery bank companies for a demo unit for you and CSU to play with. Make sure the parking lot expansion plan has space for it and others.

[@chlistens7742]

this should make it easier to make a standard test for say the 10% challenge.. you will have full monitoring to make sure any limiting issues is "not the charger"

[@TechnicalLee]

Not powerful enough to do a proper 10% challenge (requires 350 kW so all the cars can charge at full speed).

[@urgetodrive]

22:49 Why on earth does this cost $100k? Kyle opens door.... OHHHHHH MG!!

[@brianbowker5812]

Did anybody notice how far that thing had to tilted for the tilt watch to go to 70? That almost on its side…..

[@mikeselectricstuff]

So who else was desperate to see/hear Kyle clunk that big switch...

[@thatguyindenver]

Oh GAWD YES!!!

[@norrisharrington3332]

You will need an engineer to evaluate the added switchgear loading of 266 kw. Also to spec out the feeder breaker. You may need sub metering to provide for billing for kwh and demand penalties.

[@markg4257]

I don’t see how this is gonna work out on a large scale. The amount of electricity required is staggering.

[@Sirk_85]

I need 3 for the house lol. That’s awesome Kyle! We are just as pumped about this as you are!

[@nickvaughn7300]

So cool. Really looking forward to the progress on this project. Keep up the great work!

[@p0kerp1aya]

Wow! Exciting stuff for the future! Congratulations, I can hardly wait to see this up and charging! 😊

[@evanbozogan232]

THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR!! ! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@thatguyindenver]

The geek in me is GEEKING OUT!! You are a crazy awesome guy!!! Get it set up and I’ll come charge!

[@teslatim78]

Kyle is so excited he was out of breath the whole time! Proud of you brother! It's gonna be epic to watch it go in :)

[@georgepelton5645]

This will be a very interesting video series. It is great to see Kyle's enthusiasm, as always.

[@QALibrary]

The out of Spec team should do a joint project with Sandy Monro and get hold of an EA charger and take that apart and maybe find out its weakness in very hot and cold weather and a few other things

[@ram64man]

Wrong state it would be a 5 hour drive to charge

[@sp3lllz]

​@@ram64manclearly you haven't watched many of Kyle's videos. Dude does 5+ hour roadtrips on a daily basis

[@Charlesbjtown]

He needs to stay away from that sandy guy. He's doing fine on his own.

[@ram64man]

@@sp3lllz yes but they are road trips not to charge which this video is all about

[@jamespaul2587]

There are probably other professionals that are much more knowledgeable than Sandy

[@James_Ryan]

Absolutely epic! That munching sound is Tom Moloughney eating his heart out... If possible, locate it at Green River or Moab or somewhere which badly needs it (and charge $1/kWh). ;)

[@Mattstech12]

Wow this is really cool! Thanks Autel for loaning this. I had no idea we had a old powerplant on a CSU campus. It's nor far from me either. :)

[@mikoske]

Very cool! Looking forward to the series, and hopefully with more brands loaning chargers!

[@CheddarKungPao]

This is so freakin cool. Thanks for covering this super important part of the EV world in such detail guys.

[@TrevPagesPlace]

As the bloodsucking lawyer in Jurassic Park says - 'Is it heavy? Then it's expensive'

[@kelviskelvis7140]

Great idea! Very interested in future content on DC charger operations.

[@terrylueders]

I am excited too! I will be watching in detail!

[@Irvin_Wright]

Autel has been a great company to deal with. Got my level 2 charger from them

[@Jim_Mundy]

It was only a matter of time! Very excited for the content to come.

[@DoubleCTech]

I can’t wait for a rate your charge tweet from your charger.

[@allstarnb1]

Now you have me looking into gettin 3 phase 480v to my house/shop. This is awesome!!!

[@stang393]

I heard they are working on making a charger that can do charging diagnostics since Autel does auto diagsnotics.

[@johnpoldo8817]

Kyle, if you need a credit card processing company, you should consider Stripe. I installed a Juicebox Pro 48 commercial charger and as the operator am extremely pleased with Stripe’s quality, communications, and pricing. I fear your utility demand costs. Try to find another vendor to loan you some big batteries. Can’t wait to see the business model economics of operating a DC Fast charger.

[@Yanquetino]

Geeez. Can't quite wrap my head around the level of power you must have feeding into that building!

[@35manning]

A tip with gravity based "tilt" sensors. Inertia also plays into how they work so hitting the brakes hard or swinging around a corner hard could activate them. A more reliable system would by a gyroscope based system, but that requires power to run, electronics to record the data etc, but on the other hand little plastic balls are cheaper.

[@GeoffreyMoran]

Come to Lincoln Electric in Cleveland, OH in the end of November. Lincoln is not only developing an EV charger but we are also hosting a “CharIN Testival” Might be cool to come see what is in development from all the participating companies.

[@JDDevice]

Off topic, but Alyssa has cakes? Kyle living the dream out here.

[@andyfeimsternfei8408]

You should terminate the feeder cables in an outdoor disconnect on the side of the building. That will let you easily remove or change out the charger in the future at minimal cost.

[@latitudeash]

Congratulations…..looking forward to seeing it in use.

[@ZachGrady]

Kyle, maybe consider installing the 500A breaker and appropriate cable so that in the future if another company gives you a new unit you have more capacity without needing to upgrade/run new wire. (If my math is right 500A should cover you for a 350kw rated charger)

[@L6Jeremy]

Love the idea of people creating their own charging networks.

[@1sword4you]

Take steps and document the process of getting your charger appear in Hyundai navigation (available for pre-conditioning) and get it working with Plug'n'Chage

[@AlphaDewolf]

Looks like State Charge has some really big competition coming!

[@andrewchapman879]

based on the numbers it looks like to box was tilted less then 30 degrees to the left, it was tilted between 60-70 degrees to the right and less then 30 degrees both forward and back

[@TreborStiefel]

Too Cool!! Looking forward to seeing all the videos on this!!

[@bnkwupt]

Wow I didn't realize you guys were at the Power House. I just stayed with friends in North Old Town and walked right by... should've stopped by to say hi. Congrats on the DC fast charger! Looking forward to lots of videos with this thing.

[@johncoleman6986]

So looking forward to this series, way to go!