New Rivian R1S Base Model Highway Range Test! LFP Standard Driven At 70-MPH Constant

[@alexnutcasio936]

Your answer: 34:22 241 miles , 2.6 miles/kWh average average speed about 70 mph on Conserve mode

[@franciscoc345]

Damn

[@steveallwine1443]

Now it’s time to see the 10% challenge, to really see the true road-trip capabilities.

[@ArtIrwin]

This!

[@summertyme5748]

Silly challenge. 10% of what? You can't compare it between two models, if they don't have identical battery sizes or miles per kilowatts. It's almost as bad as the how long does it take to get to 85%. Lol. 85% of what? I have old laptop that charges to 85% in a couple minutes...because the battery in fact has degraded so badly. lol. I don't stop driving my car because have only 10% battery left, and in a gas car you typically can't even tell 'where' 10% of gas tank remaining is...because that metric is so useless.

[@johnlabernik4599]

@@summertyme5748obviously you don’t watch the channel. They start at 10%, charge for 15 minutes, drive until they get back down to 10% and compare the distance driven to other cars. It’s the most meaningful test they do.

[@FarhoodEnsan]

@@summertyme5748 It’s actually the best test to show what normal people will experience on road trips. Most people feel safe arriving at the next station with 8-15%. So 10% arrival and 15 minutes charging is a great way to test a car’s road trip capabilities. Maybe you could argue the starting point of the test could be a few percent different across different cars (so that they match each other in miles left in the battery as a safe buffer, like 20 or 30 miles) but that won’t change the results too much.

[@gregpochet4812]

@@summertyme5748 Go watch one of the many 10% challenge videos and you will find the answer to your question.

[@kenhiett5266]

I like that Rivian is focusing on the fundementals. I'm rooting for this company to become profitable and be around 20 years from now. They needed to cut cost somewhere and the doors might have been on that list. Let's hope there's many that snuck by a person as knowledgeable about what to expect as you.

[@SparkySho]

Least they CAN spell SOFTWARE HAHA

[@herrnaico]

Battery far too small for a truck with that consumption and price. Together with poor charging it's close to unusable for real work and roadtripping. Put a trailer on this one and drive 150 miles or what 😅

[@kenhiett5266]

​@@herrnaico 240 miles is not bad at all for a 7 passenger vehicle. Especially one with the squared off design that many people like me appreciate. Keep in mind that LFP batteries are made to be charged to 100% regularly. EV's in general are not good for towing heavy things at long distances (which the vast majority doesn't do anyway). GM overcame it by throwing a massive battery at the problem, but then you're forced to lug all that extra weight around for all of the other uses. Diesels are the correct tool for that job until battery technology improves.

[@emery2310]

Kyle, YOU ARE THE MAN!! Thank you for all you do for us EV Lovers!!!

[@F1travels]

This is not Kyle...

[@emery2310]

@@F1travels It’s Kyle’s channel. It’s just a shout out to the guy. Relax..

[@gregpochet4812]

@@emery2310 But Jordan is the one in the video and filming, making your comment senseless.

[@alexnutcasio936]

Except it’s Jordan making the video and review. Kyle nowhere to be found in this video.

[@meandmyEV]

Great job Jordan. I like the extra level of care you put into filming and editing. I can tell you are a fan of MKBHD and other channels with great production values. I share the same interest in tech as you. You should make a channel that just focuses on tech and audio systems in both EVs and combustion vehicles. I will probably never get to drive a lot of these cars but I’m interested in deep dives into the infotainment systems.

[@chingwodapigu]

Too bad it didn't have the standard 20" All-Season wheels/tires. Thanks for doing the range test. Always love your videos.

[@ChicagoBob123]

Good job Jordan.

[@brandenflasch]

Not too shabby!

[@777Outrigger]

Great car! But I think 241 miles range at a $75,000-80,000 price point is not good. But LFP batteries are cheaper to make and Rivian can probably make a profit on this vehicle. If they can, then knock yourself out Rivian. Go for it.

[@Eric-xp1kl]

Jordan, great video. Totally enjoy your commentary.

[@searcey]

Wish they had added NACS. Glad they are making improvements for reliability!

[@Wasabi9111]

Totally agree. I’m so tempted to upgrade my 2022 R1T w the G2, but waiting for native nacs. Not having to deal w adapters makes it more foolproof for the rest of my family to use.

[@petehelme7714]

you'll still be carrying around a CCS-1 adapter anyway for years with a J3400. it's a wash, I think.

[@loriallen67]

Great video Jordan! Production and editing are excellent and I love your commentary. The new Rivian products look like fantastic options. I hope Rivian does well. Really want this company to succeed.

[@michaelwitkiewicz7052]

Finally a hat with a proper bill!

[@EcoThink2024]

Ok. Here it is. Barely started the video but the range better be good/better than the first-gen.

[@Eric-xp1kl]

So Jordan just one example to share. With our 2023 R1T performance dual motor max pack. On a recent trip to see how far we can go. We got 350 miles. Ours is rated with the 22 inch wheels at 380 miles, which equals approximately 92%. Also, this was at about an average of 78 mph and 80 degrees

[@Skylancer727]

I think you must have been trailing vehicles a lot as that's unrealistically high in most uses. Remember that he actively avoids following other cars which could make things look more favorable but are an obvious variable that must be removed. Remember that drafting vehicles can increase fuel economy but up to 30%.

[@Eric-xp1kl]

@@Skylancer727 well, I'm not a NASCAR driver...just real-world experience

[@Chris-bg8mk]

driving, filming, surfing around in the infotainment system, somebody give this fool a ticket!

[@AdamRosenberg90]

And hogging the left lane! @24:00

[@JKMediaCorp]

Kind of a bummer that you can't get the color changing roof with the LFP at all.

[@pauljuntunen3451]

Thanks, Jordan! I'd like to see a bigger battery pack to get more range until we have greater charging density in more remote areas (as well as the all-terrain option), but I totally prefer an LFP pack!

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Drive at a more reasonable 60 and I expect You'll do better on distance..........Paul

[@darinbrazil5496]

The efficiency is the biggest improvement with this Gen 2. 2.64 m/kwh right when you got off the highway at 70mph is much improved over Gen1 R1S and the R1T has always been even more efficient than a R1S so the range tests in the large and max pack in the Gen2 will be interesting to see. Also this is not even on the range wheels. Would be interesting to see what those range wheels would add to the 2.64 m/kwh efficiency.

[@williamclark6466]

I recommend that you make sure that your tire pressure setting procedure gives you optimal tire shape and load carrying capacity for optimal efficiency, treadwear, and traction. I always set tire pressure to factory recommended for the load, in the cool of the morning, in the shade. Sun light on the tire sidewall can heat up the tire considerably and increase the pressure so that you get an incorrect pressure setting.

[@MegaHops1]

Good test. I think it was an improvement

[@thisisdanchoi]

Great job. Small correction at 13:02 - lane change on command recently added with Rivian Autonomy Platform, you need to toggle it on under settings

[@pennyharris446]

I luv the Rivian.

[@wellrounded9757]

can we have a high-level summary of your findings? Perhaps in a table format or a two minute summary that can be easily referred to?

[@BrianMatsunagaReel]

Would be great to see another range test with the 22" Range Wheels to see if you're able to get better performance out of the vehicle.

[@rcpmac]

Jordan does a good job.

[@ViaBuenCorazon]

I am impressed and hopeful that Rivian will continue to improve and evolve its vehicles. I am not impressed with 241 miles of range. I perceive the R1S as an outdoor enthusiasts road tripping car and this version, loaded with a family and rec gear, would likely only get 225 miles, a far cry from range freedom.

[@e.b6935]

You can buy Max pack instead of standard pack to get 360+ mile.

[@Kee_Diddy]

I think I drove the same model when it was at the Denver showroom! Kinda cool :)

[@MrGMawson2438]

Cheers Jordan

[@alancobbin]

Cheers fella perfect test 👍

[@p0kerp1aya]

Thanks Jordan. Yeah, not bad. Any chance you guys will be getting a tri max to play around with? I've been looking for any content on YT and it's non existent. I know it's still pretty early yet, but it would be cool to see. Thanks again brother.

[@hobblyjig]

Really hoping that with the R2 and/or R3 Rivian decides to upgrade the cabin air filters to complete with Tesla.

[@robertt1336]

Seems like a pretty good deal!

[@dugintexas7908]

So realistically, you are going to road charge to 80% because the charge curve really drops off there. Then you will run it down to 10% or so before charging. that is 70% of a battery LFP pack so about 165-170 miles of range between charges on a road trip. Take a dip for really cold or really hot and about a %15-20% loss... about 140 miles of range on less than ideal weather days. That is about two hours of driving between charging stops assuming that range makes the next charging station you need. Not a road trip warrior but certainly is serviceable for most people who will use it around town etc and occasionally road trip it.

[@cmdrant]

Thank you Jordan!

[@franklong6269]

241 miles for an 80k EV is not that great. The efficiency of 2.6 miles per KW is also very poor. In this weather, my Model 3 will get approximately 4 miles per KW driving at 70 mph. This Rivian is the RWD version of the Model 3 and it just isn't that impressive. I don't like the look of the Cybertruck (it's sort of growing on me), but it appears to be a much better truck for the money. I do give this Rivian some credit for getting 241 miles because these are all highway miles, and that makes a big difference. It would probably get 260 - 270 miles in mixed driving, if you kept to the speed limit in the city. I like Rivian trucks, and if I were going to buy an EV truck, it would probably be a Rivian., but I would look very hard at the Cybertruck first because it does appear to be superior to the Rivian in almost every metric. I would like to see how the two trucks compare off-road because Rivian has gained a reputation for being a great off-road truck with its four-motor truck (one motor for each wheel). It appears that Rivian is still cutting its teeth with its vehicles and is going through the mandatory period of refining a new vehicle. Of all of the EV manufacturers, I believe that Rivian offers the most promise to raise itself up to a place where it can actually compete with Tesla. But that's not going to happen anytime soon. It's probably going to take Rivian at least five years to even begin to catch up with Tesla.

[@Zyzzyx42]

I really enjoy watching all the range test videos, which is curious as I am nowhere near being in the market for a replacement vehicle; especially the pricey stuff. (though I do have a hopeful reservation for an Aptera).

[@privettoli]

The most important tests will come in the winter, it's going to determine if the new heat pump was able to improve efficiency above 1mi/kWh

[@baurat88]

nice video guys! I noticed when you opened the rear door at 4:10 the window switch looks different, almost like it was missing?

[@zachlafond2652]

I prefer when you do the reviews..also like that Brendan Fleshlight character. I really wish they would make these LFP in the US so they could get the tax credit.

[@Kee_Diddy]

Okay yeah I drove this same car about 3 weeks ago in Denver and also noticed there was only standard and low regen options. The rep went over it and didn't say anything, though I'm not surprised he didn't mention it if it was indeed a bug.

[@SpottedSharks]

Thanks. Seriously considering a R1T once NACS goes native.

[@miami3863]

240 miles is going to be a tough sale at that price point with new EV owners. Yea the R1 is the premium trim but 300 is a big number for inexperienced owners. Experienced drivers 240 is perfectly fine.

[@azorglub]

Nicely done

[@Veyronp87]

this is still to me the best all around SUV on sale.

[@privettoli]

241mi seems to be less than on my ID.4 which is smaller but also has smaller battery (77 usable). I don't like that they overestimate range, I'd prefer if they underestimated

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Rating is probably at a lower, more sensible speed.....We Are not all race car drivers.............Paul

[@joelm077]

good job on the vid and the hat Jordan

[@patrickhornacek8593]

That’s not great @ 380whr/mi. Would have thought they might see some improvement with the refresh. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@jonathanfields4ever]

LFP?! 😱 I’m so jealous that you guys get such cool EVs

[@zmarko]

I say call it R1S2. I was a long time, and multiple vehicle Miata owner, and when the refresh/face-lift 2nd gen Miata (known as the NB) came around, it was known as the NB2 (pre-refresh was NB1). This carried over to the 3rd gen (NC1, NC2, NC3), and the current 4th gen (ND1, ND2, ND3). Plus, I like how it has the 1 already in the title, it's like messing with people...keep 'em guessing with R1S2. 😂

[@fiehlsport]

Is that an iPhone SE (or earlier?) in the center console??

[@ivanstewart5567]

@OutofSpecReviews Can you do a review on swapping the 21 inch wheels to the Gen 2 R1S LFP standard, running it from 100% battery to 0% to see the actually range. I am very curious if the 21 inch wheel will actually has the longest range among 20", 21" 22". Thank you in advance.

[@JeffDangerMoen]

Jiggle the wheel to disable Driver+ but keep the cruise control on.

[@painfulpillow]

Interesting, I have a 2nd gen as well but dont have the 3d audio option. Also breaking the steering lock while on highway assist keeps TACC engaged.

[@Renew60]

What’s the mileage at 80mph with the heater on medium?

[@ahbushnell1]

So it doesn't go to low height automatically on the highway like my gen 1?

[@aaronhendrickson]

All maps need to know how many lanes a road has to keep highways assist working completely. Recognize if a road has cones.

[@JakeRichardsong]

241 miles for the base is respectable. It's a large vehicle.

[@FarhoodEnsan]

Not bad but this car only serves city needs at 240 miles full range at the best conditions. Hauling a family, going 80 mph, weather not being perfect (hot or cold or windy or rainy) the full range will be 180-200 miles. So at every leg of the drive charging from 10% - 60% you can only do like 90 miles. Paired with the slow charge rates on Rivians, it makes it difficult to even do a round trip from Dallas to Houston. I wish they manage to get the large pack below $80k and do the updates necessary to get the tax credit and put NACS on the car. Now that would be an all round vehicle.

[@DrGODofTHUNDER]

Over 200 W until 35% and then 150W at 50% isn't slow.

[@FarhoodEnsan]

@@DrGODofTHUNDER Depends on what you compare it with. The car will do 2 miles per kWh in a normal road trip and has a 106 kWh battery and costs $80k. Cars with better efficiency and a smaller battery have better charging curves at a cheaper price point. So if you want to charge 120 miles or so to your next charging stop, you will be at a charging station way longer than most other cars at this price point. I think comparing it to a similar priced Model X Long Range, it would take at least 1.5 times. The 10% challenge would be a great metric to test this. For the “new gen” of a high end EV, the charging performance leaves a lot to be desired.

[@458italiagtr]

Would you guys mind doing a 10% challenge on the iX and Ariya?

[@MF-et5nk]

These Out of Spec Reviews guys are also range testing EVs at 5,000 feet+ above sea level in noticeably thinner air than at sea level. You won't get their range numbers if you live anywhere near sea level.

[@ChicagoBob123]

The size of the pack is needed and at least with lfp 100% is ok. I would like to know about the charge curve and whose batteries. Why isn't anyone using the schenzing plus? Being able to use Tesla SC and getting at least 200 miles makes it fine for road tripping

[@loudspeaker55]

Would love to see range with the Areo Wheels ?

[@privettoli]

4:18 so many things were done in this car 😂

[@juanmanjarres2203]

Pretty sure the CPU for the infotainment has been grouped into one main board, however, I don’t believe it’s any more powerful than the gen 1.

[@brianpletcher8055]

Jordan is a great reviewer and cool dude.

[@lkuhn65]

241 is great

[@cyco1978]

Not bad i just hate the fact you can’t add all the options like the large pack

[@ahbushnell1]

There is a setting I believe that turns on % on the range.

[@kenyattaclay7666]

I find these test interesting and they are helpful to give us an understanding on what the optimal range can be. However if I might offer a bit of constructive criticism, I feel like it would be just as if not more informative if you guys would actually take advantage of doing some of these test in the bad weather because as an everyday driver you don't have the option to wait for the best weather conditions. Honestly this isn't just a critique I have with this channel but the majority of KZbin channels because if you have the chance to show range test in different conditions then you should take advantage of that opportunity.

[@ericroth999]

Running 22” wheels on the demo?

[@lua-nya]

I thought this generation was supposed to have NACS. What did I miss?

[@Ethan-ud4pt]

Not too bad, and to have an lfp battery. That will last for quite some time.

[@blessguy5330]

Tesla FSD version 12.5 has me never looking at a rivan now. Since my damn car can take me anywhere while I sit back, relax and look forward and watch the future happen Infront of me.

[@AhBeeDoi]

Honestly, it need another 40 miles of range.

[@electric-rideshare]

Good to see" honestly".. yeah 241 miles just not working for most for road trips considering thats really going to be 180-200 miles real roadtrips speeds.especially considering it takes 45minutes plus to get bak up to just 80%..which means 160-175 miles or so thereafter on your road trip

[@SparkySho]

One day will I need to skip 900 ads before an out off specs off th chain COOL ASX video or INTELLIGENT PODCAST???

[@Wised1000]

241 miles is Meh.... My EQS 580 gets about that milage...... when it"s at -20F😅. Not bad really for a rolling brick.

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

The problem with this test is it's really not a true 70mph range test. I'm willing to bet with all the slower down you did the car would have at a trip average of 65 or under. To measure it's real range you'd have to let it die on the highway sort of thing. So the real highway range is closer to 230 or so. At 75mph is might only be 200 which isn't great. But it's usable and this should charge a lot quicker than the NMC battery

I love the Rivian product but would have buyer's remorse if I spent the $ to buy one.. I think I will stay with my 2023 Tesla Model 3

[@MrGMawson2438]

241 is good

[@IrenESorius]

👍‍‍🌟👍‍‍

[@rivas541]

Eh, wish they wouldn't use eco mode and low suspension setting. It eats up the tires

[@ArtIrwin]

Pretty impressive! I’d buy one if it had the NACS and anything close to what FSD can do on city streets.

[@malifestro3319]

I wonder how many people would buy a Prius with a 5 gallon fuel tank.

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Probably, Lots with 50 MPG car...............Paul

[@TheMazi56]

Probably would've gotten more miles in lowest mode, not just low.

[@gregpochet4812]

Horrible range for a $80k vehicle.

[@ahbushnell1]

at 18 min the sound was bad. good video

[@freddunaway2777]

10 minutes into the video just to get to the drive part? That's ~10% of the video. This is a video about range of the rivian. This video needs some serious editing to get it down to ~5 minutes. Way too long!

[@uniqueomegal0l207]

I disagree. I appreciate this channel’s commitment to giving a deep dive into all the details and a longer video is a byproduct of this.

[@DavidLeee]

does everyone on out of spec ramble? you could trim this video 30-35% just sticking to what the point of the video is and cutting out some of the driving video.

[@cjgetreal]

ahhh that's what skip forward is for

[@ms-jl6dl]

When will you give us back your subsidies ?

[@jpmackin]

Who the hell drives at 70…..especially in the west where limits can be in the 80’s…..do us all a favor and drive at the higher speeds since we will then know what to expect at 70…

[@PeaceChanel]

Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste .. 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊

[@Skylancer727]

I don't really like the idea of matrix lighting. Yes it's better for oncoming drivers when you have your high beams on, but driving with your high beams on in traffic is illegal in 90% of the country. It only discourages police further from doing anything about the issue with the "well at least it won't blind other drivers. Plus matrix headlights still blind pedestrians. Unless they have a light on them it will turn off those areas and again, encouraging people to drive with their high beams on all the time is just a bad idea.

[@guyg2005]

2.2 kWh is terrible. How does Tesla and Lucid do it? Lucid is now 5 kWh. Sorry but if I am going EV I want the most efficient EV. Plus it must have a built in NACS. Thanks for the info. I will hold onto my Y for another year. Tell Kyle to quit using the wet rags on the chargers.

[@kumark3605]

5 miles on a lucid is a bogus claim, I can hardly sqeeze in 3.3 pet kwh

[@doylewillis9587]

When they go out of business where are you going to get service and parts

[@4literv6]

Good question! Per Forbes rivian has now burned more capital in total just since 2019 than tesla raised in its entire existence! Over $21,000,000,000 rivian under rj has evaporated. For about 110,000 vehicle's produced. 😀 Back out rivians debts? And they are now completely worthless! Vs tesla has over 30bill in the bank and only 9bill in total debt. I bet rivian tries to raise 3-5 more billion as soon as the first rate cuts happen later this year or next? Even that still won't be enough to ensure they can reach the r2&r3 launches+build out the GA plant as rj himself in late 2023 publicly said the GA factory would cost rivian 10-15billion to build out&Fully staff! I wonder who buys rivian up for pennies on the dollar in 2026 Or 2027?

[@gilly3531]

*sigh*...If you're bitter and can't afford one , just say that..

[@helpuafighters3127]

Hahaha, 🤡

[@johnodell5310]

Losing $30000 on every one they sell means bankruptcy looms ​@gilly3531

[@joyaliongo6649]

They supply all Amazon delivery trucks so when Amazon goes out of business then I would like to know 😅

[@Derpy1969]

The only thing that matters is how long to go from 10-80% at max charge rate? Everything else is noise.

[@ShanaDixon-sr7kl]

You've got skills, keep honing them

[@ex2bot]

Don’t count the days, make the days count.

[@ronaldgarrison8478]

Maverik is a much better name. Duh.

[@ahbushnell1]

I don't like a high beam in my mirror.

[@jasonsimp9619]

Hello, I would prefer it if you pointed the camera at the front of your face rather than the side of your face, it is extremely weird to look at the side of your face when you are talking to the camera.