Outstanding or outdated? The ins and outs of French education

[@shawngilliland243]

Peter Gumbel's comments and observations are fascinating. Thank you for this very interesting video!

[@JulietteTsvigun]

Yessss! Stress is bad, bad for the students/pupils. I have been in a highly demanding school and it should not be the norm. One may choose to attend a school that has a higher standards in terms of grades, homework in-class hours or individual study, but it has to be a choice!

[@patrickmcshane7658]

A 16 year old knows what he wants to do with his life...hmm

[@JulietteTsvigun]

I had to make this choice when I was 16, too. I had to choose my path - sciences or humanities. Though, it is definitely easier that in France to jump tracks later in life if you think you made the wrong choice.

[@tinyspacegremlin]

I find it crazy, and even slightly unfair that kids in France basically have to have their lives figured out by the time they're 16. It's like, once they choose the subject they want for the general bac test, that's it, they're stuck with it forever. Here in America, students like me, we can say one thing now, but at least we have a bit of flexibility to change our career/major 2 or 3 times by, say, we're a sophomore in college.

[@patrickmcshane7658]

Not only you learn what you are exposed to, you don't learn what you are not exposed to.

[@aroosanaveed4605]

Here in Pakistan only 20% passes in high school. We have a lot of thinngs to learn from you guys.

[@EvilSmonker]

Pakistan could never centralize like France, would cost them huge amounts of tax money. Better to go a more decentralized route.

[@popkhorne5372]

Thats because the level to pass is low.

[@carolinebenforado]

Thank you so much for this video. I taught "le creative writing" at a French university. Many of my students rose to the task, while many others never got the message that it's ok to express yourself. Also they were mystified with the smile faces that I drew next to their grades. Qu'est-ce que c'est que ca?

[@nutterbutter9788]

My French teacher taught English in Bretagne and she said all the kids were robots. The have very, very little creative freedom. Needless to say, she came back to the US to teach High School French instead 🇫🇷 🇺🇸

[@noaccount9985]

It's because English is not that encouraged in France. Tough linguistic policy.

[@leesteal4458]

I wish you guys had spoken about the board that the little girl has in her bag.

[@christinakozmas]

When I was in school we would usually use them when the teacher would want to quiz the entire class orally. So, for example, the maths teacher would ask what 8x6 is and we would be given a few seconds to write our answers on our board and then we would have to reveal the answer at the same time. Stuff like that. And let me tell you, when you have to reveal your answer to your entire class, and it's wrong, and the teacher points it out, it can really destroy your self esteem.

[@lovekenmaforlife3406]

I go to a French school and the work is not that stressful.

[@iFreeThink]

I do not agree with having it difficult "to jump tracks" due to the types of people in each track changing over time. It makes more sense to have some sort of "requiring ALL of the CLEP exams" to be taken in order for students to choose whatever major based on their scores.

[@OptLab]

I don't know if it's the system or because of ethnic/social issues, but the level of the french in international rankings collapsed in the past decades: 26th in the PISA rankings. One must not confond well educated by the parents, and well taught/trained.

[@mage5890]

True. But I want to add something, which is only an observation (because I dont know exactly how it is). Maybe the criteria aren't the same depending on the countries, so it impacts the evaluation. Of course it doesn't explain everything and it goes for all countries, but I know for example that geography is a subject more developed in French high schools than in the average of the other UE's countries. But being able to make a "croquis" (sorry I don't know the word, maybe it's a "sketch map"...) isn't an European criteria in the evaluation of student's knowledge...

[@gudetamaminiso513]

In the past decades all students have got access to the education until the end of high school. The system was devided differently before. The reason is maybe that not everyone was taken into account in talking about France before, and in many coutries in the world, probably not everyone goes until high school (and thus is ot taken into account)

[@mage5890]

I passed my BAC this year 😱😁👍

[@raymin5619]

it is passed not pass. looks like you failed the english section

[@mage5890]

@@raymin5619 actually I got a quite good mark in English, even if I still don't know how 🤔🤷🏻‍♀️ But I'm going to change that, because I don't want to take it again 😭😭

[@mage5890]

@@raymin5619 thanks for telling me 😊

[@rileyweber6800]

@@raymin5619 I am a native English speaker and I still make mistakes with that. I do the same with Spanish which I am fluent in. Just because someone makes one mistake doesn't mean they failed any one section. You could point out the mistake by saying what was wrong and not saying that you failed anything.

[@raymin5619]

@@rileyweber6800 its a joke, seems like the person i made it about understands that better than you. thanks for reminding me of a comment i made 1 year ago

[@millionsofpeople9414]

watched this in school for french and this gave a lot of information! thanks!

[@ey6713]

Please look at -8:06

[@tronghai55]

France education is a big lie to the public. 250000 students or more on the work market each year without any right skills. For in the name of equality the system drive the youngsters to an dead end. As long as the professional technical system is abandonned in a bad stake then those students cannot have a right path to adapt to their future work. The gap between the technical and the high end education should be able to link. The technical professional university does not have rightful skill teachers and fundings for their performance link to the need of the industries like in Britain and Germany. France equality cannot lie to their youth anymore and any further. There is no education pathway better noble for another it just you have to fit the right stance of performance of one student for their top abilities to choose their own path. France cannot lie anymore to the 250000 students each year jobless to a dead end future.

[@gudetamaminiso513]

Agree, but we have a hard time admitting that not everyone will be a philosopher and should think of the right way of selecting people

[@patriot8942]

Très intéressant 🤔 Le système québécois donne des résultats exceptionnels au test PISA. Un filon linguistique ici 👈?

[@insidebabashead8591]

The French system used to be far better, before they decided to follow the U.S.'s lead, teaching reading earlier. For many years, French children didn't learn to read until 7. The rationale was that waiting allowed children's language skills to ripen, thereby making it easier for all to learn. It was a great idea, as it eliminated the learning blocks created by expecting children with marginal language skills to read. This resulted in France being one of the most literate nations in the world. Now, they teach reading earlier. Interestingly enough, they now have a significant number of children with dyslexia, a disorder they historically had declared an American problem. And as Americans have pushed children to read earlier and earlier, dyslexia in the U.S. has climbed. Hmmm....

[@iFreeThink]

That is very strange because it seems like all sorts of people (Africans, Vietnamese people, Hispanics, and Japanese people) used to have studied something French. Especially when the schools are called something different than international school blah. Hard, to me, would be studying Music or all of the difficult, Physics problems India talks about.

[@annafihoq72]

When she goes from one to the other . My God!!!!

[@leftwing1975]

No guns in the bag? Strange...

[@annecaro.3956]

well, this interesting video is no longer up to date !!! school has been digitalized. Baccalauréat is not longer organized as presented (L, ES, S) due to the Réforme, and the finals due to the covid has been "given" regarding the school year, and limited to the Grand Oral this year. So, a lot has changed, in short what used to be inspirational formany foreign countries, has recently been "americanized" !!

[@mcmickey3344]

Could you elaborate here please? Just for context am considering lycee programs for preschoolers in the US. Wondering if you have any experience or thoughts here

[@patrickmcshane7658]

Are the two sisters Molly's sister?

[@AlbandAquino]

Cats around the world approve of french. As shown in the video. It's proof by itself. Cats already rule the world so ....

[@SterefYt]

Le stress est enorme et les prof senfiche

[@noellamehal3784]

More stressed than the koreans and the japanese!! Lol

[@iFreeThink]

It's insane. Have something non-electronic.

[@noellamehal3784]

Religious school with contract with national education !!!

[@iFreeThink]

I do not agree with 1) same handwriting and 2) writing with a pen.

[@naanihi]

1) They said when you were young, basically when you were learning how to write because we all has the same exemples of letters 2) You don't write with a pen?

[@ahmedyar7212]

Everything is ok. Not only white.

[@Daniel-mq3nf]

??

[@jordysmom479]

An agenda not a tablet hum😏😳🙄

[@legionleschyzophrene4929]

Yeah french education system is still quite lost in the past when it comes to ressources. A tablet would be much more useful. And weigh less than the plethora of supplies needed.

[@johnwinthrop2702]

@@legionleschyzophrene4929 no tablets are awful and teach kids to be addicted to the internet we should totally go back to writeing like they do in france.

[@salamander981]

Florence- voulez vous etre ma` femme? !!!!

[@ToastedMicrowave]

fartus mcbartus

[@ToastedMicrowave]

i agree

[@ToastedMicrowave]

me too

[@ToastedMicrowave]

and me

[@ToastedMicrowave]

BLORG

[@IS_33]

@@ToastedMicrowave same

[@patrickmcshane7658]

Are the two sisters Molly's sisters?