Over One Hour of Fallout Iceberg

[@bedfellow2481]

5:17 Nuking yourself in the Yangtze probably refers to what happens in the quest if you put the warhead before the dampening coil during the quest to fix the submarine, which causes the submarine to explode.

[@erict3728]

My thoughts exactly

[@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool]

And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 Please go to a PCA Presbyterian or OPC Presbyterian church, or maybe a Rpcna/Rpc Presbyterian church If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms or Wels Lutheran church. If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland, they are Presbyterian If you are English I recommend the Free Church of England :)

[@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool]

@@erict3728🐪

[@blakedouglas4031]

“Dead money inspired by the wizard of oz” is almost definitely supposed to be “old world blues inspired by the wizard of oz,” which is something I’ve heard before. Usually it goes that, like the characters in the story, the courier is recovering/finding their spine (courage), heart, and brain during the main events.

[@alliesangalli1757]

I agree 100%. Dr. Mobius even makes this connection himself in a voice line, pointing out that the spine represents courage, and how there was an old movie about people looking for those three things.

[@jittergoat]

nope. it refers to the "finding a heart, spine, and brain" heart being dean, spine being Christine, and brain being Dog. you, of course, are Dorothy, who was thrown into this world against your will.

[@stol3nexe901]

Rip MittenSquad. Man it so sad that his last vid was “can you beat fallout while addicted to everything” then passing away due to his own vices. Hit hard dude

[@aspen1713]

His last community post, “I’m not dead and neither is this channel” tore my heart to pieces

[@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool]

@@aspen1713it hurts

[@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool]

And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 Please go to a PCA Presbyterian or OPC Presbyterian church, or maybe a Rpcna/Rpc Presbyterian church If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms or Wels Lutheran church. If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland, they are Presbyterian If you are English I recommend the Free Church of England.

[@SomeRandomName460]

Yea...Miss him.

[@AdaptiveApeHybrid]

Get the fuckk out of here. Dude is dead??

[@nellieskoczylas1787]

You have to admit, it is a fun format. It lets you branch out onto borderline fiction territory, which lets face it fallout has plenty of material to work with and plenty of cool ideas.

[@gavinbailey7409]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 thank u very good comment

[@IONLYKNOWMOVESTHATKILLPEOPLE]

I feel like the tier list format was an alright concept but icebergs was like the big bad motherfucker level100 final boss version that lets you drink beer at only 13 on holidays lmao

[@jeremiahh0866]

I’m a little smooth brained, what exactly is an iceberg? Like, it seems like it’s just a bunch of rumors/myths/lore/random things that happened during development that got out to the public? Am I missing something?

[@IONLYKNOWMOVESTHATKILLPEOPLE]

@@jeremiahh0866 Yeah

[@SomeRandomName460]

Basically, info that is well-known would be at the tip of the iceberg. The closer to the end you go, the more info that is lesser know appears​@@jeremiahh0866

[@Alex_FRD]

Nuking yourself in the Yangtze refers to fixing the submarine incorrectly and it explodes.

[@TKsMantis]

[@Alex_FRD]

@@TKsMantis Ahh yess, Enclave. Do a review of America Rising 2.

[@CodyRags293]

Hey Mantis, thanks for the great video. I've been finding myself watching your compilations of facts lately to scratch my fallout itch. Thanks for all the hard work you put into these videos!

[@Raziel3794]

For the oblivion variables one there is a telephone pole with "TES-04" at the center of fallout3 map if i remember correctly

[@fallout4977]

Common mantis w video

[@redraider7876]

Yes

[@TKsMantis]

no u

[@freddieb1903]

How about both? ​@@TKsMantis

[@gavinbailey7409]

No doubt 🙏🏼 bro has never dropped a bad 1 🙏🏼

[@Googleaccount-jn2bv]

What?

[@patrickiamonfire965]

The 200 endings was something that was taken out of context. Lot of people didn’t watch the full interview and this was done early on development. Here’s the full quote. Todd Howard: “Being that we are Bethesda…everything gets a bit big. So as of last week we’re over 200 endings. That is not an exaggeration, but it deserves some description. 200 endings…that’s a lot. So originally when we started, we had various iterations of the ending. The ending is kind of cinematic, that’s dynamic based on the things you’ve done. When we started, it was kind of fuzzy, it was like “well there’s like 9 maybe 12″ and we started adding things to it. So if you had done this or not this, you’d get this other tweak to the ending. And we kept doing that. And you know even just two weeks ago someone had this idea, “Oh we should add this idea to the ending” (sorry I’m not going to spoil what that is). And I said, “oh that’s a genius idea, we have to do that.” But then it became, “oh, but there’s four versions of that.” So i was like, “okay there’s like four different versions of that part,” and that multiplies by, at the time we were at about 60 endings…so now there’s four versions of that, so now there are around 240 versions.” The games on paper when we get started…they’re alot smaller, and then as we go they get bigger…we can’t stop ourselves. We’re have tons of people with good ideas here, and if they’re good and fit the tone, we’re going to try to jam as much into the game as possible. Fallout is probably twice the size of what we originally had on paper…it’s pretty big, so that’s what’s happened with the endings. So some of that stuff is the big things of what you do very late in the game, some of those are things like your karma - how you’ve lived your life from the beginning of the game - you get certain scenes based on your karma. But we kind of like the ending as much as like the game itself at the beginning is you tailoring your character and then you play throughout this game, and unlike Elder Scrolls, where it’s a game where you can keep playing, Fallout 3 has a definite ending. So we wanted to go to efforts to make sure that the actual ending you get when you finish and get the ending, and make that ending reflect and make it individual to the user’s experience. We’ve definitely gone a little overboard.”

[@pizzaivlife]

I always took the 200 to mean some combination of things rather than independent states and it makes sense you can get up to 200 quickly. if you just take the temple of the union you have •finished the quest- side with slaves •finished the quest- side with slavers •started the quest, didn't finish and presumably some variation if someone died. then if you multiply it against the main quest with two endings that is 8. The quote is still dumb/an exaggeration though in my mind as most "endings" are just a different combination of slides and voiceovers that occur at the the end, rather than each thing effecting the whole combination of the ending- it is more like adding things to a grocery cart than adding things to a soup where they actually effect each other

[@erict3728]

Context is very important

[@sludgedweller]

​@@pizzaivlifemaybe at one point they did have a bunch of ending narration planned but ron perlman didn't have enough availability to record them (i mean, we know he wasn't available for broken steel either)

[@Bigwave3K]

Todd Howard gets a lot of hate for a guy who is so passionate about making games for literally us lmao I’ve always found him to be a likeable guy he genuinely seems nice and I think that he really is trying to do right by gamers

[@TXlowlifeTX]

Bros selling a product to us that we hold dear already and hypes it up to where people get disappointed lmao

[@EZEfallout]

As iceberg documentaries go, this one was pretty chilling.

[@TKsMantis]

[@divinity1371]

I’m not sure if it’s the ice, or the nuclear winter, but it’s a far cry from patrolling the Mojave.

[@luishinojosa4595]

😂😂😂

[@paladinkhan]

Nice, a banger to put on while i work. Thank you mantis man

[@TKsMantis]

Have a good work day!

[@paladinkhan]

@TKsMantis shit thank you, brother. Ill see ya in goodsprings sometime! I appreciate it, nd same to you

[@liamwaddleton]

I feel like it's concerning that I was already aware of ~80% of this already. Great video by the way, I also feel like all these little segments could also be released separately as shorts on KZbin to maybe bring in some attention to the channel. Also also: I agree with your take on how New Vegas relates to the canon of Van Buren, I feel like it connects the ideas in the most cohesive way

[@Fargassier]

Glad you did the format bud. Great video bud 🤘

[@sibithecat3390]

Maybe when he said “200 endings” he meant the multiple different ending slides for towns, characters, all that?

[@finisterre2415]

Perfect video to get a solid nap in with.

[@Lewd-Tenant_Isan]

Yooooo had the exact same idea lmao

[@allfathergru411]

Amazing video as always, keep up the hard work!

[@Alienstargel]

33:51 Wasn't the Abraham & Monte dialogue actually a conversation with Veronica about Elijah? If I remember correctly the devs had to put it in the base game but disguised it to prevent spoiling the DLC.

[@chezekeeper]

Yes TriangleCity has video on it

[@dylanwfilms]

Yee exactly!

[@sqarex2658]

i was looking thru the timestamps and laughed out loud at KOTOR 2 stealing van burren docks, good job thats how you get someone hooked

[@lucasvail683]

When I see an hour long mantis video I KNOW I’ll be able to be productive. Idk why but playing your vids in the background let’s me focus at work so easily.

[@ThommyofThenn]

Just finnished a long, dark lore video about a sad universe. Then I see this happens to be uploaded. 5:00am but I'm here for it

[@toadjelly889]

What was the universe you were talking about? I'm always down to be introduced to new stuff

[@enzyme694]

Its crazy that some of this lore is mentioned in the hoi4 mod old world blues. I cant believe they went so deep into research.

[@Thi-Sen]

Dude, this was awesome! There's so much attention to detail.

[@pahkah.1398]

Surprised this didn't happen sooner. But I am not complaining. Good stuff!

[@devyn7478]

mantis anytime i’m high and eat mcdonald’s and watch your videos i get happy

[@emrefifty5281]

Bro for the love of god do more in your life

[@Giffsen]

Love you man! Keep up with the great content!

[@MDRHokage]

There is also an additional Nirnroot hidden on Far Harbor, it's underneath an upside down canoe so it's really easy to miss.

[@ednaldopreira]

I think that the b team made f76 entry means is that a more inexperienced (which is a polite way of saying a worse team) combined with a rushed development resulted in the catastrophe that was the launch of f76.

[@MaxEverywhereSystem]

im sure someones already thought of it, but maybe its possible that horses are extinct/rare only in the vegas area, like how mr house mentions cats are extinct and cass doesnt know what a fish is, yet theres cats in 4 and fish in honest hearts edit: also, iirc abraham and montes story was actually placeholder dialogue for the conversation you have with veronica when you give her elijahs holotape after dead money. id assume the devs didnt want dataminers to leak how the dlc ended before it was even released.

[@TheDapperDragon]

Honestly, it's more likely Avalonne is just being butthurt again, and the horses are there, he's just salty that that would DARE imply his 'perfect game' had a flaw, even if it was just a technical limitation. (And we do see a horse in the show.)

[@kkzblueeyes0551]

Even Fallout 4 gets more snow than me? Wow!

[@KaptifLaDistillerie]

A universe where horses don't exist is impossible. They allowed us to do so many things, society would be radically different without them.

[@ineptitude]

Love the grab bag format, it’s like 30 videos in one!

[@AndrewSSGSS]

I love these long videos, can’t wait to also start rewatching your fallout facts series

[@MrLorddarktoothx]

I've put in close to a thousand hours in different playthroughs over the years, and I never ever thought of gold in Elijah's head.

[@AJUniverse]

48:44 The bomb in Megaton also literally has a Vault Tech logo on it.

[@PhattyBolger]

I like to think that if Hanlon had said the NCR was on "a wild goose chase" in Baja, Reddit would've been full of speculation about why the NCR are searching for geese.

[@Lofi_DreamR]

I was hoping you would upload this style of video one day. Can't wait to watch it while pillaging the capital wasteland with Jericho

[@TKsMantis]

Have fun out there!

[@michalmikes5286]

What a wonderful Christmas present, thank you Señor Mantis

[@jakecanady1028]

Oh my god I never thought to use Elijah as a suitcase. Brilliant

[@PanzerMan332]

I never even stopped to consider how odd it is we never see horses in the Mojave. It would make perfect sense to ride across the desert instead of walking when given the choice, plus the obvious themes of the wild west and cowboys speaks for itself. I know they could never have incorporated horses into gameplay realistically, but I wish we could've gotten a cooler reason for their absence than just "idk they all dead 🤷‍♂️".

[@TheDapperDragon]

That's Avallone for you. Lazy, self centered egotist. He could've just said 'they're there, we just couldn't manage it with the tech at the time.' But no, he has to make it some big production about how he was right and the comic is wrong.

[@Lagbeard]

55:15 The way I've heard it was that Joshua in Van Buren basically just would have set your reputation into negative one with literally every faction, and count as a shitload of negative Karma... So nobody would want to co-operate with you, and every town would just hate you... They wouldn't attack you on sight, but you'd be locked out of most side content as questgivers probably dont want to talk to you... In exchange for dealing with this, Joshua would've been absolutely godlike in combat, just carrying the player through combat.

[@sabatheus]

3:44 Loving the Dogmeat antlers Christmas theme. xD

[@Klezzr]

i am a simple man, i see a fallout lore/iceberg video and i watch it

[@murdoph]

41:16 this is fascinating because Cube is a horror movie which is about a group of people who wake up trapped in a cube and have to escape, avoiding deadly traps. The characters include a mentally handicapped man who turns out to be a mathematical savant, which is linked to Dog and God, a neurotic architect who designed parts of the cube not knowing what the plans were for before being unwilling put in it, which is similar to Dean and his history with the Sierra Madre, and a doctor who is eventually betrayed by the main character, which I suppose draws links to Christine but i dont know exactly. Also the main character in Cube is slowly revealed to be evil and goes out of his way to kill the others trapped with him, which is similar to how you can kill your companions in Dead Money when following Elijah's instruction. Tl:dr Cube is a film which is clearly a massive inspiration for Dead Money, and is also an incredible film by itself

[@senorcheesy9661]

The Starfield reference could be a reference to how Mr House stated that he would get humans to colonize Alpha Centari given 200 years of being under his control

[@Newvegasfiend]

Yes finally mantis does an iceberg

[@TKsMantis]

I tired.

[@Newvegasfiend]

@@TKsMantis well get some sleep then

[@TheMMA_District]

Great job on this iceberg explanation! Id like to see you do more content like this.

[@TKsMantis]

That's the plan!

[@xenobio7402]

thanks for dropping this so i can sleep

[@TKsMantis]

Good night

[@RS-ry4lp]

I love the thought of Nick getting the Johnny Silverhand treatment from Kellog

[@TuxGaming1458]

Talking deathclaw slander is unreal

[@rize2874]

Man I'm gonna sleep like a baby with this one

[@XothKubo]

Wooot Woooot! Lovely content my friend!

[@ToxicBanana]

Thank you for the hard work that you no doubt out into this! ❤

[@russellcrowe5873]

Always happy to see your content in my feed homie 🙌

[@JACk79457]

Absolutely gonna watch on my drive to work today, gotta support TK!

[@ineptitude]

The “Iron Mountain” reference in F2 is, I assume, a reference to a company by that name rather than a place. They appear to specialize in very large scale storage and operate something that sounds a lot like a Vault. Albeit for valuable objects and data servers instead of people.

[@gunnercooper9405]

Grognak and the ruby ruins is honestly addictive, i had never messed with any of the pipboy games until about a month ago but i LOVE the grognak game and ive played through it like 5 times, i wish i could find more real games like it

[@TheCrackFox]

Dude was putting in work with that beer bottle.

[@Blakbox92]

I've watched like three Fallout Icebergs and every one of them seems to have new weird info. Fallout lore goes crazy

[@Scrawlerism]

I love how concise and complete you make each point. I've seen quite a few fallout facts vids and this is the best by far!

[@TKsMantis]

tbh I thought I was a bit loose thank you!

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

The story of 4 and a lot of moments in game are certainly written with a male protagonist in mind. Like the veterans lodge speech. The fact that your male PC can wear power armor without training because they’re like a war vet, but your housewife female PC with a law degree can use PA “just because man, don’t think about it”.

[@daltongarrett7117]

I don't know why I keep finding myself having to resubscribe to you but ima keep it up.

[@azariahazariah4493]

One thing I expected to see on here was something a lot of people don't know! That many of the Fallout 1-2 Soundtrack songs were inspired by and (maybe unintentionally plagiarized) the album Selected Ambient Works Volume II by Aphex Twin. Evidence includes the comparisons between Grass (Aphex) and the FO2 Credits theme, and others I cant list from the top of my head. Here's an old video that goes into detail: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaiUdJmbastqnJo

[@khm6585]

Another fallout video? Yes please.

[@TKsMantis]

Never too early for a Fallout video.

[@KibuFox]

6:32 Fallout 76 being developed by a B team refers to the experience of the development team who produced the game. Specifically, the branch in Austin who worked on overall development, were from a relatively small studio that Bethesda had just recently acquired. They were previously "Battlecry Studios", who were working on an Overwatch style Hero shooter pvp game called BattleCry at the time. At the time of their purchase, the company hadn't released a single title. They were an unknown group, with a completely failed project (BattleCry never released) and were put in charge of a game that was by all accounts (theirs and reviewers) well outside their experience to produce.

[@andrewgrasham4604]

Damm it... not supposed to be awake right now and now I got to listen to this.... Curse You TK!!!

[@MikeOTR]

Thanks for giving me something good to listen too while working

[@user-hu1]

I really enjoy and look forward to your content TK. Keep up the good work! ❤

[@JByrd606]

Hour long TKM video? Iceberg Video? Fallout Video? Yes please

[@MattBradyrules]

Ahhh I had the worst week and this video is about to make me feel sm better

[@FluffySylveonBoi]

I love Fallout Tactics tbh, it has its unique charm, related to Fallout 1 and 2 but also reminds me of games like Gorky 17 or Commandos in a way.

[@arandomfatbloke3352]

39:50 I'm taking it as headcanon that footprint belongs to Maypole, the cut ghoul giant.

[@SegaMario]

*THANK YOU* for not explaining what an Iceberg is. I'm so sick and tired of literally everyone explaining what an Iceberg is, when there are *THOUSANDS* of these videos - people are bound to know what they are by now. And if not, an older video explaining them would clue them in, or they can simply educate themselves through other means.

[@ouhhoh]

glad to see you defend f76 a bit lol. its definitely not for everyone (I love it) but you're absolutely right- its very clear that there are a lot of very passionate, hard-working people behind the scenes. while you can see bethesda's hunger for money cropping up in places (the atomic shop & fallout 1st), the events, worldbuilding, and writing is so much fun. surprisingly, it's ended up having one of the best battlepass systems I've personally come across. they recently updated it to make it even better, as someone who isn't paying for it, i still feel like im getting a lot out of it. im not sure if its been confirmed whether or not the big npc update was planned from the beginning, but either way, the devs ability to adapt based on fan input is admirable. the initial launch was such a huge flop, they could have easily cut their losses & gave up, but they put out so many major updates that it feels in many ways like a totally different game.

[@Slowboyheals]

Great video to do some house chores and eat breakfast to

[@TKsMantis]

Great idea!!

[@BumpkinBros]

Babe wake up TkMatis posted a Fallout Video!

[@owenfink]

The fallout 76 b-team is in reference to the fact that it wasn't the Bethesda studios office in Bethesda, Maryland that was the primary developer of the game, but rather the one in Austin. Their wikipedia page references modifying the creation engine for fo76 for multi-player.

[@DillonDeluxeEdition]

Good morning king

[@TKsMantis]

Up

[@DillonDeluxeEdition]

Up

[@Falloutboy76.4]

4:58 Mantis, this means to do the instructions of the Yangtze in the wrong order, when putting the wrong part in, it will explode the Yangtze. The more you know!

[@JohnnyFamas139]

Pretty sure the 16x detail comes from fallout 76 being the first ever fallout to support 4k resolution at launch. Since the older consoles were low resolution natively. But most idiots still own their grandmas avg tv and don’t know how aspect ratios or resolution scaling works they just made it a meme after it flew way over their heads.

[@Bo_Raine]

RIP MittenSquad

[@Alexander-zb1rg]

Great stuff as always, if you could do more icebergs I would appreciate it, love your long form stuff

[@superbad8008]

I adore that the world of Fallout has both supernatural and science fiction elements.

[@TheDapperDragon]

I think it just needs to make the supernatural elements 'questionable'. For example, Dunwich building/borers. Is what you're seeing actually magical? Or are you hallucinating due to radiation/drugs. Or the Interloper. Is it an otherworldly being, or just a crazy mutant? It's something that could honestly go either way. Meanwhile, Fallout 2 having you exorcise a literal ghost. just fuck you, here's a ghost. That's incredibly stupid.

[@sqarex2658]

also, sidenote, the nuking yourself in the submarine thing, i am 90% sure that it reffers to putting stuff into the reactor in the wrong order, it just blows up then

[@TKsMantis]

Yes. The footage I show features that. Makes sense!

[@sqarex2658]

@@TKsMantis okay and about the KOTOR 2 using van burrens docks, by breifly checking the fallout wiki i guess thats reffering to how both games start in a cell you dont remember being put in? but thats probably just a joke entry seeing how both games were made by obsidian

[@solid1850]

video came in clutch i might actually get some work done lmao

[@paladinkhan]

Lmao my thoughts exactly

[@jasohavents]

Fallout 4 having only a male protagonist might have been a holdover of the fact that there was a voiced protagonist. They might have thought it too difficult to do both a voiced male and female protagonist earlier in development.

[@sethhansen3916]

The thing with the aliens, starting the war and all that, is referring to in fallout 3 the DLC there is an interview of a US army soldier or something like that giving the aliens the nuclear launch codes

[@Zeldarulah]

Wish the visuals of this video lined up with the discussion a bit more

[@AJUniverse]

18:14 I've never understood the argument that this kind of stuff isn't canon. Of course it's canon. It's in the game, and the games ARE the canon.

[@flamingt-3411]

I could find one, that being the one in vault 111, quite an interesting mini-game, also great video!

[@sludgedweller]

regarding "fallout 3 throwing", it's still in the game files but it's not used. its slot in the engine replaced by survival in new vegas

[@declangallagher1448]

Thank you lore papi

[@Obama_sin_Laden]

"The Forecaster is a Pysker" 16:57 Great video as always Mantis!👍

[@GirolamoZanchi_is_cool]

And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out. -Acts 3:19 Please go to a PCA Presbyterian or OPC Presbyterian church, or maybe a Rpcna/Rpc Presbyterian church If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms or Wels Lutheran church. If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland, they are Presbyterian If you are English I recommend the Free Church of England :)

[@Zartbot]

Fantastic video!

[@willmarsden7657]

With the Chinese sub, if you don't load up the engine in the order the Captain requests, the sub detonates and kills you.

[@SuperNovaKin]

Dinosaur Footprint could just be another Reference to Godzilla, kinda like how New Vegas has Gojira.

[@Googleaccount-jn2bv]

Confused by some comments... but all your vids are great man.

[@ryanhammond6688]

Everytime i see a long form mantis video im like cool i can sleep to this in the background...... I never go to sleep lol

[@TealFirefox4387]

When I first played Fallout 4 and Kelloge spoke through Nick I thought that there would be more of that and if I later chose to side with the Institute I'd have to override Nick's personality with Kelloges.

[@abelq8008]

Thanks for the shirt in Goodsprings!

[@DanVisuals]

another great video! Thanks Mantis :)