Overanalyzing EVERY Other Plant [PART 6] - PvZ2 Chinese Version

[@nc7718]

Jester in international version: I am the destroyer of strategies. You must prepare around me or lose. Jester in chinese version: I can only reflect like three projectiles.

[@fwapkiwami]

Something tells me the Chinese devs REALLY REALLY hate Jester

[@helomeplea]

Everyone hates jester

[@rizkidary837]

But intetrstingly the Chinese equivalent of jesters (kung Fu world)come earlier than in international

[@nc7718]

@@rizkidary837 they're a lot easier because they have cooldown between reflections, so they dont nullify certain types of plants completely.

[@thepotassiumgamer2137]

Hammer and nunchaku: I got ya homie

[@milkmonstrosity]

I think the inconsistency with Icy Currant might just be a carry-over from Electric Currant. I've seen Chickens manage to dash right through the electric fields just fine, in fact it's a fairly frequently occurrence. Certainly helped to make that Zomboss fight at the end of the Wild West Expansion just that little bit more insufferable.

[@DiegoGarcia-fv2ue]

That battle is so dumb I wish the gave us at least a peashooter

[@Megajaybreaker4]

@@DiegoGarcia-fv2ue that ruins the gimmick of only hypnotized zombies being able to attack zomboss

[@Bayoll]

That level is the only level that i just couldn't beat. It is so finicky, electric currant and spikeweed does nothing to the chicken considering they spam chicken wrangler at the halfway point. And when you finally reach the last stage they just spam gargantuar. Awful! I even pre boosted hypno shroom from zen garden and i still couldn't beat it. The strategy that is available on the internet is so RNG dependant, one loose chicken and you're done. I spent like a good two hours just tinkering with the strategy, not to mention the tens of thousands of dollars used for power ups. Next time it comes thru I'll either not play it at all for the sake of my sanity or boost every plant that is used in that level. Hypno shroom, spikeweed, wallnut, and electric currant if it's even possible. They should give us endurian instead of wallnut to give us at least a fighting chance.

[@Bayoll]

@@Megajaybreaker4 well in that case just give us endurian. It would make killing the chicken so much easier. And it wouldn't ruin the gimmick considering it cannot attack the boss and they already give us spikeweed and electric currant.

[@ooohgyc5740]

chinese version just likes an incomplete mod, some are pretty strong, but some are so waek even if they are gold (plant division: white, green, blue, purple, gold) - just to show "look we now have a new plant". dont care that so much, we dont know how the editors think either :( well, have you noticed that? it's a episode just for trolled purple/gold.

[@harryvpn1462]

The tuliptrumpeter interaction with turkeypult is the silliest thing ive seen in any pvz game

[@ellusiv5121]

seriously, what the hell

[@zavie3513]

Tuliptrumpeter at first sight: Meh, another projectile plant that isn't very good... Heals: That's actually nice. Level 2: Okay, now that's interesting. Level 3: OMG, I love this plant.

[@cardboardtoaster2169]

Without levels it’s an alright alternative to the OP healer named “Aloe”

[@Squeakybro]

instantly becomes busted. WAIT DON"T USE THE TURKEY PULT

[@Im_Local]

I wish it was in the international version. Of course it would be an arena exclusive which would be annoying but it would open up so many interesting strategies that aren't available with caulipower or hypno shroom

[@Random_ya]

Level 5:I WILL USE THIS PLANT RIGHT NOW

[@theoneandonlymastergunner]

@@Squeakybro lol

[@georgeuferov1497]

Okay, but hypnotized zomboids were really unexpected. I wonder how this interaction even works, I don't think they would code this on purpose

[@qualitytimewithted5160]

If I had to guess plants and zombies are assigned to a “team”, and hypnosis simply swaps their team. So a hypnotized zombie switches to the plant team, but since zomboids are already on the plant team, they swap to the zombie team. That’s just a guess though.

[@FourthEgo]

It was likely an accident in the coding.

[@danielandycandrawira6206]

@@qualitytimewithted5160 And because zombie with hypnotized effect in the code can't eat nor take damage from plants they just walk pass your defence.

[@randomgapper]

@@FourthEgo Perhaps Popcap of China didn’t realize the coding While Talkweb never fixed it..

[@Darkplasma26]

This is probably my favorite series on KZbin at the moment! I think it’s very interesting and fun to watch these! Keep up the good work Flag :)

[@flagzombie]

Wow thank you!

[@centralkaufci]

flag, can you say im cool? id appreciate it.

[@elnamraef4297]

true

[@Darkplasma26]

@@flagzombie Of course man!

[@Berlinh2]

@@centralkaufci lmao

[@silverpotato4272]

7:05 I don't know if this exists in pvz2, but in pvz1 zombies have a random speed stat so that could be the reason for the inconsistency

[@KogasaTatara514]

If you watch carefully, you can see that the middle balloon zombie wasn't damaged on the first tick, therefore wasn't slowed and got much farther in that time, letting it get by with its balloon intact. Whether this due to a slightly different speed or just a tiny difference in initial spacing when spawned, that's definitely what's responsible.

[@realPurpleOrb]

I believe the random speed was only in some pvz1 minigames

[@seanlee527]

I believe not due to zombie having the same speed if they are the same one The first one was like that due to the different walking animations for normal zombies in pvz1

[@chillyconmor]

they removed the random speed in pvz2 its all the same now

[@milkmonstrosity]

@@KogasaTatara514 I believe the actual cause is a bit weirder. From what I can tell, the way that Electric and Icy Currant are programmed to deal damage is different from Spikeweed. This is because while Spikeweed only begins its attack while targets walk over it and deals consistent damage with exposure, the two Currants are always attacking. This sounds fine, but the time between attacks is rather noticeable, and the hitbox of said attack isn't nearly as large as Spikeweed. This causes an effect where zombies can walk through the AOE without taking damage because they entered the area between damage ticks. This is the exact reason why a Chicken can dash through a Currant sometimes but never will with Spikeweed. Same with variants like Weasel. These enemies move just fast enough and have such small hitboxes that they have time to pass through the AOE before it hits them if it ticked over just before they made contact. Really stupid, and really frustrating, but it kind of makes sense, at least from a logical standpoint. A simple fix would simply be reducing Currant's damage per tick but increasing the rate at which they hit. But of course, nobody likes Currant, so they'll never get attention.

[@mrmolasses]

Can I just say how brilliant your music choices are Super Mario Odyssey? Club Penguin? Chowder Bookin' Cook? This is S-tier quality content

[@flagzombie]

Thank you :)

[@Smith-fg1qb]

It’s pretty cool that you used music from extreme pamplona. I haven’t played the game for ages

[@eggshellproductionsblender]

6:09 Icy currant is so cold, it can freeze the game itself.

[@Starfruit1]

Lol

[@76i-z4v]

Good one

[@saufiapriyandi]

Funfact : There's actually no things such a banana tree, While the banana plant is colloquially called a banana tree, it's actually an herb distantly related to ginger, since the plant has a succulent tree stem, instead of a wood one. And the banana is the berry not fruit.

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

Berries are a type of fruit, ones with seeds inside, so blueberry is very accurate naming

[@ClonedGamer001]

We've seen a few design choices in the Chinese version that are strange to say the least, but Eggplant Ninja being unable to hit flying zombies might be the most baffling yet. I can't think of any reason for that to be a thing.

[@aubreyathame]

its simply too good so they had to make it slightly less good

[@LowQualityCarbink]

because the devs have a crippling addiction to making flying zombies spoiled

[@megatiz123alv]

This guy deserves a rest after making such high quality videos 😃

[@mattgroening8872]

Yes, but he has the all plant rankings soon! Guy doesn’t give himself a break

[@ZeroPan9759]

9:17 I like how it plays the pvz theme when it’s fed plant food.

[@mihneababanu4224]

i love how tulip thrumpeteer makes a cute little sound every time it attacks and the plant food plays the menu theme!

[@PixelatedGuil]

I really like the detail you put into overanalysing these plants! Keep up the good work, This is a really good series!

[@flagzombie]

Thank you!

[@nickk3077]

I really like the idea of a plant, that when given a plant food, has an entirely different ability! Edit: Y'know Ultomato sorta counts actually! When given a plant food, it basically turns into a Doom Shroom!

[@minty_macaron]

lava guava counts..?

[@nickk3077]

@@minty_macaron It’s a temporary. I meant, sorta like a buff that changes the purpose of the plant. Think what happens to torchwood and cactus, but they change their entire ability if that makes sense.

[@berdyking7967]

@@nickk3077 so tocobility from the first pvz 3?

[@nickk3077]

@@berdyking7967 Never really paid attention to PvZ3 that game doesn’t look very appealing.

[@berdyking7967]

@@nickk3077 true, but tocobilities are pretty cool.

[@crazydave5562]

Crazy Dave approved Great video keep up the great work

[@flagzombie]

Thanks Dave.

[@Alifraipye]

you are prolly one of my favourite youtubers to watch probably ever, your videos are INSANELY REWATCHABLE please never stop

[@flagzombie]

That's really sweet thank you!

[@LowQualityCarbink]

I could never agree more with a 1 year old comment

[@phamson7868]

​@@LowQualityCarbink same

[@victini7777]

Note how Banana Dancer still has Coconut Cannon's sound effects

[@copycat500]

Banana Fan Dancer is the definition of “Reaction Skills 100”

[@mousse1138]

There's something so intriguing about seeing and learning about the Chinese version of PvZ2. Great content regardless!

[@Arceus-zl5ur]

Can't wait for part 7! These videos really makes me relaxed, It just feels satisfying for some reason

[@extrasmalltricky6665]

I like it that tulip trumpeter plays the PvZ theme with his plant food, probably meaning he helps play it on the title screen

[@Gastomb]

Flag zombie never dies

[@Neon_Here09]

He always come back

[@cesarv7685]

Ironic

[@isaacpaintsemrouboanderline.]

Ironic since you identify yourself as a grim reaper

[@dehydrationmonster66]

Agreed

[@Kelswagsinandballin]

Indeed

[@Davidpoland2005]

that banana tornado plant is a great concept if only these chinese devs knew how to program her

[@SilverFoxeGames]

Its always interesting to see what sort of plants the chinese edition creates compared to the english one, makes me wonder if there is a fangame with almost all the plants from across different PVZs

[@AceFuzzLord]

I know that there's a group of people working on Plants vs Zombies Universe, which is supposed to be a pvz game that includes plants and zombies from all the different official games including the Chinese versions. It totally sounds like a huge undertaking and so far it just seems they have some of the Ancient Egypt levels/zombies/mechanics from pvz online playable in a very early build but I'm not sure how far along they are or what's done since I normally don't keep up to date on game news. They have a yt page but I'm not sure if they have any other spots where they post news

[@voltfox2466]

Bro the fact that Hammer and Nunchaku zombies freaking reflect MUSIC SOUNDS 💀💀💀

[@valen3792]

Sumo Melon: Enforce-mint Icy Currant: Winter-mint Tulip Trumpeter: Enchant-mint/Reinforce-mint Eggplant Ninja: Spear-mint Banana Dancer: Contain-mint

[@cloudy28]

Sumo Melon's attack is extremely weak tho... it's mainly used for defense

[@cloudy28]

@@ninjapirate123 so? chard guard is reinforce-mint instead of arma-mint

[@cloudy28]

@@ninjapirate123 typo i meant enforce-mint not arma-mint

[@cloudy28]

@@ninjapirate123 ​ endurian and blockoli also do damage, both are reinforce-mint plants

[@theoneandonlymastergunner]

@@ninjapirate123 CHARD does deal dmg albeit subtle

[@stefanloncar6868]

Love your overanlyzing videos Flag Say ever tought about making your own top list ? Like your own ranking of each PVZ game from worst to best ?

[@bombglove1670]

The return of the greatest and most informative series on KZbin

[@OIRPFanmades]

Banana Dancer is just, a very beautiful plant for me ! In fact, her face actually resembles Blooming Heart's :)

[@caverndweller]

Youd think they'd have her level 3 be 5 seconds so it'd cut the cooldown in half again, but for some reason they bumped the attack cooldown from 2 to 8 so it only becomes a 1 second decrease??

[@theoneandonlymastergunner]

Yeah, banana dancer is kinda garbage

[@mexxhan5981]

Personally, assuming Auberninja makes it to the English version, I think Auberninja will be decently good. Not too overpowered, but can still pack a punch, or shuriken in his case, when needed. It most likely will be a Spear-Mint plant.

[@poisonsandwich12]

I just realized how detailed the bios for the Chinese exclusive plants are 😅

[@junlinzhu2634]

There is a supplement to the attack of Eggplant Ninja. His darts stay on the court for the same time each attack. That is to say, the slower his darts fly when planted on the right, the more damage they cause to zombies per second

[@theoneandonlymastergunner]

Cool! I didn't know that

[@alexwijaya6857]

Nunchaku and hammer zombie:*reflect sound using hammer Physician:wait, that's impossible

[@AidanTheCross]

Good choice in kirby music, I immediately started recognizing the sountracks you were using

[@grandom7116]

My 2 Cents On The Plants *White Melon Sumo Wrestler* - Just a worst Chard Guard. Half as much damage and can't knock back Gargantuars. The plant food ability is Fine ig *Icy Currant* - wasn't a big fan of Electric Currant cuz you have to use Garlic and Garlic sucks in pvz2 due to their being so many zombies that can instantly kill him. So I kinda feel the same with Icy Currant *Tulip Trumpeter* - very weird. The healing is very weird and the damage is Fine. Its cool ig *Eggplant Ninja* - It's a copy of Boophone Geigi. Nothing special. *Banana Dancer* - why does it have to wait for 13 seconds to attack after 15 seconds of resting? Super weird.

[@cyber0806]

Are you watching the vid and typing in real time? I respect that

[@grandom7116]

@@cyber0806 yes

[@berdyking7967]

But garlic is good, your just bad.

[@grandom7116]

@@berdyking7967 There is just too many Instant kills in Pvz2 that your setup would get ruined

[@berdyking7967]

@@grandom7116 I personally don't bring garlic into a level with instants, or bring removal to kill the instants/ plant food garlic, but that's just me.

[@trannhuhientrannhu8325]

Tuliptrumpeter: Can be reflected Banana Dancer: Can't be reflected Me: Sound can be reflected, but wind can't

[@saberspriteanimator6385]

The devs: hmmm yes , total logic there.

[@UnrealSuperSonic04]

tuliptrumpeter is literally an amalgamation of scaredy-shroom, caulipower and [insert healing plant]

[@theoneandonlymastergunner]

Peach

[@Its_bloon.yt2011]

Aloe

[@Derfdunn]

So true

[@dimitri6294]

Your videos are very informative, keep up the good work

[@jiahuazhang959]

Just because it is not mentioned in the video Eggplant Ninja is considered a great plant because it could potentially deal a considerable amounts of damage to the zombies. Yes, I mean it. It deals damage per frame so if you place it in the front (causing it's bullets to fly slower) its bullet will hit the zombies for more frames therefore dealing insane amounts of damage. Also if you speed up the game it does less damage.

[@nobodyimportant281]

So, it's with these particular set of plants where bugs and glitches really started. Even the animation started to downgrade.

[@nacl4988]

It seems BananaDancer has some wierd code relating to firing. Maybe she checks every 14 seconds~ if there is a zombie in rnage, Which would explain why T3 took her sleeptime down, but attackrate barely changed.

[@GrassKnuckles]

LOVE THIS SERIES i play china version but deleted week ago i knew all plants but still love this!

[@silverpotato4272]

So Banana Dancer Costs 375 sun Can't even one shot a buckethead Takes 30 seconds to attack And has a garbage plant food ability This is actually the worst plant in the game

[@idontknowbruh]

jackfruit be like : my skill more worst than yours

[@randomgapper]

Banana Tree from PvZ OL:skill issue.

[@Derfdunn]

Flat shroom: thats reassuring! at least I'm not THAT bad........ My life sucks. I suffer horrible toxins to protect my team barely enough to be considered useful at all.

[@connercraig6379]

I like the fact that when fed plant food , tulip trumpet will play the main theme of pvz

[@NumpyBear]

The heian age music in the beginning is just.. ✨✨✨✨✨✨AaAaAaAaAaA❤️❤️❤️😩😩😩

[@MyChannelIs450YearsAgo]

Notice how the face of tuliptrumpeter is similar to thyme warp's just the teeth is a little bit different

[@Cholincy]

Will you ever tackle already existing plants? Like Peashooters Level 1-5 and Costume Plant Food Effect Special.

[@theoneandonlymastergunner]

Yeah,he said he'll do it like 40 times now

[@mr.jitterspam9552]

Hoho

[@WillyPoo-y3t]

Player: Is the family friendly on? Hypnotize Zombie: Let me check.

[@dawolfmaplays5997]

You're making excellent content. Keep it up.

[@ecbrd8478]

i hope there was a pun at least on par with "electric current" in chinese when they made fucking "icy currant"

[@matsmeulenkamp5515]

Tuliptrumpeter is actually a tulip a flower seen in the netherlands

[@superpapermariofan]

As a netherlander. I can confirm this is true

[@blackdashh433]

I cant wait for the best plant video.

[@viktorbarnic7549]

Me too

[@mattgroening8872]

Saaame

[@mattgroening8872]

I voted for lily pad lily pad op

[@alzhanvoid]

Man, the chinese version has so many more plants. Everytime I think 'this must be the last one' I am proven wrong. They may be broken in many ways, but they sure are plentiful.

[@theoneandonlymastergunner]

There is like 50 more plants left

[@ralzsxd]

Your videos are always interesting. thanks for making me enjoy it

[@ChrisCastaigne]

9:15 i thought u were gonna say that she will sing the menu screen and damage zombies in a 3x3 hitbox

[@berdyking7967]

T-t-t-three hundred sun? For a inconsistant citron? Its funny how chinese plants are eather very powerful of paper miche week.

[@marigold_lord]

Who the hell changed all the Chinese Exclusive Plant Names. Egrett Flower --> White Egret Flower Fighter Plane Firebloom Queen --> Flame Flower Queen Frostbloom Queen --> Crystal Orchid R.A.D Missiles --> Mischief Radish Auberninja --> Eggplant Ninja It's honestly stupid.

[@MoriOugaienjoyer]

Everytime i see a video from this series i get super happy, love your videos!

[@flagzombie]

Thanks!

[@randomnoob6524]

Does anyone else remember when eggplant ninja was like the most op plant ever?

[@theoneandonlymastergunner]

Yeah

[@Ithinkofnothingbutsomehing]

I know I'm late to this comment, but how?

[@bleachedeiyes]

Banana dancer is the definition of terrible. I legit thought this thing was gonna have a niche role of a low sun attacking troop that had a very slow but somewhat decent power but omg it is absolutely terrible.

[@lilharm]

I think the Shield Zombie is acting like the bull, it’s shield is getting disabled because it *is* being knocked, it’s just knocked forward instead of in the proper direction

[@ItsCandyindefinitely]

You know it really feels like we came a long way with these plants like we had a bit absurd ones sure like monkey-fruit but we never really had plants as complicated as this like aside from icycurrant every plant is complicated in some way shape or form here

[@TostOlabilir]

Hey Flag! I love the PvZ2 China videos. Keep up the great work. But something I always wondered is how you manage to do these showcases. Like which version of the game are you using and where can I find it (im terrible at looking things up i can never find what im looking for)

[@nicolenip]

Tuliptrumpler at lv 2 + soda palm = yippie we won.

[@THEnicholasvancosky]

I've noticed that if Banana Dancer's plant food effect sucks in zombies that were sliding on ice tiles, it'll throw them away like flying zombies.

[@Penki_225]

14:51 how powerfull is bonk choy to be able to defeat a fully trained professional ninja?????

[@lapatatachusca29]

grettings from Peru, love ur content

[@chomper1014]

This is amazing, after you over analyze all the plants and zombies of the Chinese version of PvZ 2 can you over analyze the new zombies in PvZ2 Reflourished.😀

[@randomgapper]

There is already someone did it

[@yoshihammerbro435]

I love that u use Sonic Unleashed music.

[@jellyhi1604]

Even at level 2, tulip trumpeter already reached its power spike and still better than caulipower

[@donstan9392]

"white melon sumo wrestler" aint no way its actually called that

[@nkqwithankq6311]

Sorry for being so late I have never been on the internet for awhile anyway here are my questions.1:if tuliptrupeters red notes hit hypnotized zombies will the turn back to reg zombies and will they attack your plants.2: Since kunai tupistra can kill tofu turkeys can he kill hypnotized tofu turkeys

[@omgman5745]

Thanks to you using Kirby and the forgotten land music I want to replay that game now.

[@Brixcyara]

Just wanna say thanks on everyone's behalf for making this, flag, it's very interesting to find out about stuff from this version of pvz2 that seems almost alien to us and you do a very good job explaining everything. Great video as always

[@flagzombie]

Thanks :)

[@auberninja5090]

You analyzed my favourite plant, myself

[@Bayoll]

Tuliptrumpeter hypno projectile being able to be deflected and hit a soy turkey is the epitome of PvZ Chinese programming

[@boi8963]

Theze videos are absolutly great could you make them more often please

[@exe.wilhelm3578]

10:20 and 10:35 Plant : They betrayed us

[@SCP---049]

It's funny how the tuliptrumpeter is actually playing a sousaphone

[@fluxranger1329]

tuliptrumpeter isnt even using a trumpet, its more like a sousaphone

[@magikmudkipz809]

Now i really want to see you just playin around with these guys in a few levels

[@xItzNelly]

THANK YOU FOR DOING THE EGGPLANT!!! I LOVE YOIR VIDEOS!!!!

[@Lilliana1]

White melon sumo wrestler being legendry and being a worse chard guard is beyond me. Just why?

[@penpenguin4767]

Hey Flag zombie, you should try tulip trumpeter's reflected red note on tiger grass's tiger minions since i'm pretty sure they function similarly to zomboids

[@flagzombie]

Tiger Grass isn't in this version of the game yet.

[@BirdieBirdieWoofWoof]

@@flagzombie What about the Illusions from The Magic Mushrooms

[@flagzombie]

@@BirdieBirdieWoofWoof It turns them into regular hypnotized zombies. It just adds the purple and bubble effects on them, they still fight for you.

[@theoneandonlymastergunner]

@@flagzombie wait, so there isn't two Gatling peas (mega and cinesse)

[@scphj7745]

@@theoneandonlymastergunner Nope

[@Footballersbros7]

Fun fact:place two banana dancer in the same line then give two of them the pf, if you do so, the zombie which can be attracted will be thrown of the lawn

[@vietkoala303]

You're back :D

[@moojie_]

missed opportunity for the eggplant ninja to be called auberninja

[@juliofloralde9140]

Its kinda weird how some special plants cannot hit barrels but I think its because of the devs maybe they havent finished the plants yet or thats just their idea

[@ButterGoat]

0:35 So it’s basically chard guard and spring bean combined into one plant

[@rayman3521]

10:20/10:35 Note to Self: Don't combine Tulip Trumpeters with either Turkey-pults or Zoybean Pods in levels with reflectors.

[@denkikaminari2883]

I really enjoy this type off videos,so make more cause i love them

[@DeliriousPersona]

6:08 nah, he doesn't crash the game; he freezes it to death!

[@camwoodstock]

Banana Dancer taking literally longer to attack 1 zombie than her own cooldown yet costing *375 sun* to do so is a violation of some form of the geneva conventions, probably.

[@Ballinballer01]

Flag zombie you should do the over analyzing for PvZ online

[@beetosdoesstuff544]

don't use white sumo melon at all! Edit: also I think tuliptrumpeter should be like this: if no zombies in lane, heal. if zombie on lane, attack.

[@DraftyDaftyHubertOHare]

The banishing of ice currant to the Chinese version still doesn’t make sense to me (bar the fact that it would be even more unused in the main version than electric currant)

[@jervisangelopitao7118]

Damn that tulip trumpeter is broken af