Overanalyzing Korra: The Earth Queen

[@overanalyzingavatar]

Like and comment and I'll tell you about that thing finally.

[@TJ-kh2zc]

Dude, you gotta tell me about that thing! I don’t think I can go on in this life until I know about the thing!!

[@jokekopter2509]

0:17 they didn't,they changed the shape,first they made them smaller in height,some had dirt inside so in case of collapse of the wall,the cannons won't be able to reach the city. Cannons were placed on bastions. Majority of them had moats around them. Also tons of them had small raisings in front of moats,so the cannon fire wouldn't hit the main bastions and walls

[@Chefofzejunle]

WHAT IS THE THING

[@LuisSierra42]

Watch Attack on Titan

[@grantfomin6829]

11:20 Kai's left eye in shadow is more dilated. As the door closes and his right eye is also in shadow it also dilates to match the left eye. That's crazy detail how did you miss that? How did I miss that when watching?

[@claytonharting9899]

Hi, professional pretengineer here. The beams in the ice crevice definitely do have a pretend purpose. They’re there to keep the walls of the crevice from kissing, as the romantic tension compels them to do

[@Dkgow]

How dare they keep those lovers apart.

[@jgamerxd3316]

How cruel

[@thehalfdeadguy7563]

@@Dkgow Two lovers, forbidden from one another

[@letsbetheawkwardkquorter7159]

@@thehalfdeadguy7563 A war divides their people

[@Hello-bs7ll]

And a mountain divides them apart​​⁠​​⁠

[@CNightmare072]

8:38 I love how all these years later, Zuko is just as awkward when he’s trying to make casual conversation. Makes us feel like it really IS the same person, plus it’s just really funny

[@tariqthomas9090]

I think the voice acting is the only thing that throws me off. I get that they wanted him to sound more like Roku, but his voice and cadence is vastly different from his younger self. Katara has this problem as well. That’s kind of why the third living member of the Gaang is the most successful because they actually feel like the same character.

[@majintv24]

I do love zukos line i get a good laugh every time

[@willtheprodigy3819]

@@tariqthomas9090Couldn’t you have just said “Toph”? 🤔

[@kiwivvv]

@@willtheprodigy3819 spoilers, we dont know that at this point of the show.

[@xrn769]

@@kiwivvv kind of process of elimination at this point since Katara said that Sokka is fucking dead in season 1

[@skeepodoop5197]

"You have theatres in the lower ring?" Actually, that makes a lot of sense. It was comparably dirt cheap to see movies back in the day, and many people, especially the lower class, went to the theatres. Movies were not something exclusive to the rich, as you may initially think, since they are WAAAAAY cheaper to show than something like a play.

[@IceRiver1020]

That does make a lot of sense actually

[@maskofthedragon]

We all know how commonly available movies were within weeks of their invention

[@jacklansdale77]

They were new, but they were being played in the sports arena. They were already displayed as public entertainment.

[@fatcatsgoneblack]

When air conditioning was first invented, people would go see movies just to get out of the heat.

[@Yodah97]

@@maskofthedragon That's fair. But it's best to judge Korra based on the time period the creators are trying to copy. If you try to put in the context of "none of this existed 50 years ago", the entire worldbuilding falls apart. I mean Varrik clearly already treats "movers" as a profitable industry with stars and defined genres.

[@Brandon-zg7om]

The air bender food spread is the new full moon

[@seizan88]

Oh no.... 😂❤

[@aubreyhuff46]

to be fair, it's part of what a lot of asian cultures eat. I think Overanalyzed should take that into some consideration. Feels like a nitpick

[@fulltimeslackerii8229]

@@aubreyhuff46but why is it every meal?

[@aubreyhuff46]

@@fulltimeslackerii8229 that's just how they show it. Plus, it's easier to animate. I also imagine the meat shown in the airbender temple wasn't meat, could've been tofu

[@GravitationallyChallenged]

Hello! Not an engineer, I am a speleologist though. (For those unaware a speleologist, is the scientific term for an expert on caves!) I, specifically, deal with Ice caverns! I work for a company I cannot name, our job is basically to keep Antarctic explorers safe. We have research divisions and I'm part of one. Such is the reason I work with Ice Caves and Caverns. As far as I know we do not have anything as structurally sound as a whole ass jail in an ice cavern. We have worked down in crevasses like this though, and sometimes our construction guys have to makeshift support beams! See Ice crevasses like this can close up due to the pressure that builds up below when they're formed. Some very very large ones, (maybe not as large as this, but certainly larger than your first thought), have closed! we use the makeshift support beams to make sure that if it is working its way slowly towards closing, that it can't become too small of a gap by the time we need to leave. My best guess for these is that it is a more permanent measure to prevent this crevasse from closing. Seeing as they're made of steel and all.

[@Whoopingcoughalig]

How long would a gap close without the support beams? And how much time do beams give? You can also take for example the one seen in Korra

[@_Jess]

I was guessing they dropped the beams down and just fastened/froze them wherever they landed, it's not like the cavern is shaped regularly in any way

[@Frindle_Babbin]

Ayo I’m a geologist so hello cave brother i hope someday OA requires my expertise…maybe when lavabending happens more because I do have some Thoughts about it

[@GravitationallyChallenged]

@Whoopingcoughalig It honestly just depends on the gap. The material is sturdy enough that it can hold for up to months at a time. But we've come back to a couple of crevasses before that were seemingly closed over night. Those ones tend to be smaller in proportion. However some crevasses can span as large as 40 ft wide and 90 ft deep. I think the largest one ever recorded closing was 66ft wide and 144ft deep. That wasn't one of ours, just this one I know about lol. I've never seen one that large, though I really wish too.

[@pauloricardo-wn6ps]

now that you mentioned it, large ice formations moving and measures to prevent it into moving in a way that would kill everyone sound pretty obvious

[@videogamefool11]

I mean only the outer wall was seemingly actually important for defense. The other walls were for enforcing Ba Sing Se's rigid class system, which they are still accomplishing.

[@brandonlyon730]

If the population has earth benders in it, that makes the walls a bit pointless.

[@leonszegedy]

@@brandonlyon730I’m guessing if you break the walls, the dai li would break you.

[@Alienoiable]

No, they're not pointless. The walls don't need to physically stop people, they're just the physical representation of laws separating the classes. We've never been shown that people can't go in the higher rings, they just can't live here because they don't even have enough money to do so. The only place that is likely "off ground" for the commoners is the royal palace and that's about it. That's not the only way to divide the classes too. Pretty sure you don't tend to hang around in a place where you can't do shit because you look so estranged (therefore everyone is gonna be hostile toward you or look at you suspiciously, assuming you only have malicious intentions) and everything is way too pricey for you.

[@The_Murder_Party]

Also we still built walls after designing cannon, we just needed to change the design, star forts are built around the idea. Hell, cannon are a lot older then people think, we see something that could credibly be called a cannon in like… 1500

[@KoDiAk-777]

@@The_Murder_Partybig difference between possibly being able to shoot through a stone wall and being able to just turn it into sand or turn it into the cannonball itself.

[@lollllfol]

City walls didn't go away after cannons! They had to change but they kept being used, and could be quite effective even into the 19th century. The last city walls of Paris were built in the 1840s, and when the Prussians besieged Paris, they chose to starve them out instead of attacking.

[@theDinosorcerer]

while true it is significant that the shape of fortifications had to change to meet the threat of gunpowder weapons. the same fortress that would have been impregnable in the early 1400s had walls that were tall, but far too thin to protect you from enemy siege cannons if they managed to get them near enough by the late 1400s. new designs of fortresses had to be experimented with, ultimately resulting in (at least in Europe) the complementary Vauban fortresses and siege parallel warfare that would characterise European warfare for about 200 years and arguably still sees applications in his offensive concept of the siege parallel. for this period, it's only been less than a century since the time airships were developed. as such, older fortifications like Ba sing se probably shouldn't reflect the change in warfare as much.

[@Limrasson]

@@theDinosorcerer I love how things adapt to meet new challanges and the results can be sometimes weird. Just like evolution.

[@themoonsevilsister1561]

the walls of ba sing se are also a cultural landmark, even if they stop being tactically viable. It's not like they tore down the Great Wall of China when airplanes were invented

[@Holdthetomatoesplz]

Not to mention, it’s not like they’d just take the walls down because of the zeppelins.

[@theDinosorcerer]

@@Holdthetomatoesplz or build additional defenses on/ around them. I don't remember if they mention it when it comes up, but when the metal bender cities come up, they appear to be able to close solid iron petals up to form protective domes around the cities, which considering metal bending would not have become a developed discipline until after the mass proliferation of military airships makes sense as planning of those cities would have taken aerial bombardment in mind.

[@coasternut3091]

The dialogue on the way down to P'li was kind of nice. Getting to see the characters as just people is always refreshing every now and then

[@spence8920]

And Zuko still being so awkward with silence and just saying some out of pocket thing is perfectly inline with his character.

[@HuugTuub]

​@@spence8920 yea it's very "hello, zuko here"

[@chimera9818]

Honestly my favorite scene of him in the season is of him hearing iroh is in the spirit realm and you can see the awkward teen we see in avatar at that moment when he surprised

[@juanordo66]

11:21 CRAZY level of detail when the door closes and the room darkens Kai's iris widens

[@stuarthutzler6670]

What the- Who even thought of that?!

[@doc9473]

Now if we REALLY want to get technical, you can see that only the one iris dilates when in the dark, with the other already being widened. In real life, both of his iris' should react bilaterally (so either both dilated or both constricted) and not only one changing without the other. With the way his moves, that'd be an indication of a traumatic brain injury. but also cool detail kthxbye

[@dontworry4945]

so fuck eye patches, huh?​@@doc9473

[@willtheprodigy3819]

And yet they can’t even put in audio for windows and mess up every other shot.

[@housekinokuni903]

Holy sh- you're right. And here I thought that Zaheer slipping in the background while escaping Kya and Ikki was the small detail that I caught and felt proud lol.

[@shadow759]

5:54 As someone from a big Spanish family. I believe this, mostly because I have some weird family members I never seen before from a different country and they somehow know who I am.

[@thijmstickman8349]

Especially since Mako and Bolin are basically celebrities. If I had a nephew who was a celebrity, even if I never actually met them I'd probably recognize them

[@pn2294]

Same as a Nigerian

[@JojoJere]

As a Ghanian American I relate

[@vanburnjackson]

Hey i know you, i think

[@videogamevis]

@@vanburnjackson Yeah yeah I think I know him too

[@lightning1892]

The Ba Sing Se walls are likely still there because without them, it just wouldn't be Ba Sing Se anymore. It'd be like taking Big Ben out of London, or Dodgy Moon cycles out of Overanalyzing Avatar Vidoes.

[@ricardoberrios6137]

Yeah like, the cultural heritage of Ba Sing Se is very important for its residents (its basically Long Fengs justification for his very wrong actions) I still think the walls are impressive, but more like the Great Wall of China is impressive now. Not because of its current function but because of the context of his creation

[@thecaelspice]

I also think the walls of Ba Sing Se serve as an important symbol to the leadership of Ba Sing Se. We know that the further you go from the center, the more impoverished the city becomes. It serves as a physical metaphor for the stringent caste system that the Earth Kingdom was built on, and would still be desperately clinging to, as we see with the unrest. We see how self-absorbed in her greatness the Earth Queen is, and there's no way she'd want to let commoners into the upper ring, and the walls serve as a barrier.

[@The_Shadow_Gaming]

Well London would still have its stabbing attacks and acid attacks

[@hilgigas09]

Also keeps sandbenders out of

[@terdragontra8900]

Not to mention if they have, like, sufficient anti air artillery or something, an invasion by airship isn’t an automatic win

[@giacomoromano8842]

Small historical bit: states didn't stop building walls after the invention of cannons: what happened was that because of cannon powers, walls started to be build lower but thicker, with dirt redoubts and wooden palisade in fronts, often with other fortifications in front of the main walls, which forced the attackers to first destroy those so to get in range, which was time and resource consuming. Walled fortresses kept their strategic importance well into the 19th century, and while city walls may have lost their military function, it is quite a waste to actually tore them down. In Rome, we still have big pieces of the Aurelian Walls.

[@Yodah97]

I'm sure it helps that not every threat would have a large number of cannons and cannon ammo -- pesant revolts would be short on them, for example. And forcing people to use a limited number of gates helps with policing and crowd control. Plus every cannon shot they waste on your walls are shots they're not using on your army.

[@TwilightChomperEnthusiast]

Fun fact: It's implied that the Earth Queen ate Bosco. If that's not enough to make anyone feel she deserved to be suffocated, I don't know what to say.

[@IceRiver1020]

Aahh I hate you for reminding me of that lol

[@tiablue9106]

They said it is a rumor that she ate him, I don’t think it ever goes beyond that but it wouldn’t be out of character for her and surely there’s evidence behind it if the rumor’s still around prolly decades after bosko’s death. He prolly licked her once and she ordered for him to be killed

[@zacharynguyen7286]

Murder is wrong… but

[@scrawnytony3174]

You say “implied” as if they don’t literally say “I heard she ate her dad’s pet bear” in the show

[@IceRiver1020]

@@scrawnytony3174 True, that would classify it as a rumor.

[@dredgen0268]

The opportunity to make a “There is no war/Airbenders in Ba Sing Se” reference was sadly missed.

[@obviousalias132]

Maybe unintentional but there was a “no cars in ba sing se”

[@Jay-nh6um]

10:33

[@tariqthomas9090]

10:43 YES! THIS is the Korra that I love. When Korra’s anger is righteous and justified, she’s a great character. The writing for Korra is almost a complete 180 here.

[@Limrasson]

Right? I always say this, but another example how much the Avatar's authority has vaned as the times changed. Switch Korra with Roku and see what happens to that palace, lol.

[@Yodah97]

@@Limrasson Yep yep. She has mastery over the Avatar state. Korra is, for all intents and purposes, a "fully-fledged" Avatar here. It's weird that she gets -- at most -- the same level of respect Aang got as a kid. When Aang was younger, weaker, and dealing with people who went 100 years without an Avatar. Hell if anything, the fact that Korra has all of that power but is still young and has a temper should make her even scarier to world leaders. And her losing access to her old lives is not public knowledge, right?

[@Urlik7]

​@@LimrassonI can't picture Roku burning down a palace to prove a point or his authority 😅

[@chimera9818]

@@Urlik7that’s more kyoshi thing (she did threatened the fire lord for her time with that in the kyoshi novels), and Roku canonically demolished alone the old fire lord castle when sozin tried to attack him

[@Urlik7]

@chimera9818 ye, when he attacked him - that's what I mean. With Kyoshi it's obviously different story 😂

[@tallyho836]

11:20 Kai's pupils widen when the light is no longer hitting them

[@Jake28]

wh.... who even thought to add that???

[@catwithaneyepatch]

2:33 (reverbed, echoed): INCONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF NORMAL DUCK.

[@ApocolipticMonkey]

they have shells

[@Jay-nh6um]

those are turtle ducks

[@catwithaneyepatch]

@@Jay-nh6um looks like wings for me tbh

[@catwithaneyepatch]

@@ApocolipticMonkey thought they were wings

[@Jay-nh6um]

@@catwithaneyepatch I'm gonna be honest I'm staring at them again and I still cannot see wings at all, their shells even have two sections, a periferic one and a central one, exactly like how the turtle ducks are depicted

[@eldenlorde]

we know there’s no air benders in ba sing se because they’d be sprinting vertically up the wall as they are well-known to do

[@Dinobilly425]

To the point of zuko bypassing the cold weakness, wasn’t that explicitly a super secret “dragon of the west” special that pretty much only iroh/ maybe the sun warriors knew was possible?

[@wordlesslfiddling]

I would have to imagine that a refrigerated room is significantly different from an under ground ice cave in the north pole as well

[@KairuHakubi]

@@wordlesslfiddling I hadn't really thought about it before, but the Boiling Rock prison... was it using compression-based refrigeration? I know the Fire Nation had some advanced tech, but they're still running things on steam. Could you really make a steamboiler compressor freezer? .... oh huh. a guy called Alfred Haslam totally did. in 18-freaking-77. Without the need for ammonia or anything special like that. Well I learned something today.

[@SilentNames]

9:20 Its explained in atla that Iroh teached zuko a technique called the 'breath of fire' which keeps zuko warm in the tundra and cooler. I imagine Iroh learned it from the dragons and so it wouldn't be common knowledge among fire benders. (which is why people couldn't handle 'the cooler' usually)

[@KairuHakubi]

that, or most firebenders have to use 100% of their bending ability just to _survive_ being kept in a freezer _perpetually._ Like I'm a big guy with a lot of insulation, I handle the cold better than most, but unless they were feeding me a lot of high-calorie food and giving me room to exercise all day every day, I'd eventually die. Like possibly the first night, if there wasn't a nice thick blanket in the cell.

[@SylveonSilver]

9:09 these beams would have started symmetrical as structural support so the ice doesn’t close on itself, but ice shifts ever so slowly over time like glaciers so it would be pretty plausible to have an uneven structural support if that prison has been around for a long time

[@PhantoRoyce]

I think the beams would have to be leftovers from fire nation ships from the war. There’s no other use of metal in the water tribes and there would obviously be plenty of it from all of the ships they managed to take out. I wouldn’t be surprised if they just lugged them on to ice blocks and used them for support that way

[@xUN1T]

But why would ice would move different directions and different amounts? Shifting ice might explain why the beams aren’t level but not why they’re asymmetrical. Also, they look like steel, I wouldn’t want steel in compression, that’s something you’d want concrete for. If these are structurally important, they’re more likely in tension. I think the most likely thing is that it looks cooler to have them going different directions so the artists did that.

[@lethalradio14]

The Beams are there to keep the Ice cave open but also not letting it completely separate either. if they were not places weirdly like the serval thousand tons of ice would collapse in on itself and the reason why they are Placed strangely is simple to spread out the weight better than if they were straight on, and they can resist shearing forces better being staggered weirdly like that

[@lancealot1235]

2:34 INCONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF NORMAL DUCKS

[@obviousalias132]

Except they clearly have turtle shell backs Oh inconclusive, sure

[@graycockerpunch6191]

they have turtle shells on the back

[@danwar2489]

@@obviousalias132 could just be wings

[@brandonlyon730]

Well we do know that just normal cats exist.

[@ddchrw]

Inconclusive evidence of normal Koi fish?

[@spritvio639]

*"HaVe YoU eVeR rEaD tHe PoEtRy Of ThE gReAt AiRbEnDiNg GuRu, LaGhImA?"*

[@ShotgunLlama]

Laghima balls

[@neverclosetoperfect]

Laghima balls

[@zealousdoggo]

Anyone: _does anything_ Zaheer: would you spare a moment to hear about our lord and saviour guru laghima

[@Rocketsnail1000]

I thought not. It’s not a story the air acolytes would tell you

[@kylegonewild]

Guru Ligma

[@nicodemusedwards6931]

2:47 Not really. He’s the sheltered monarch of the largest of all the nations. He probably has 12 concubines and 30+ kids that the Earth Queen had assassinated.

[@KairuHakubi]

Yeah but he's... such a geek I think some wily high-born woman finally seduced him in his old age, got him to marry her, rocked his world, and he flat-out didn't know what sex was until she was doing it. Or maybe he met some exotic temptress in his travels. I guess it can't have been THAT recently, since his daughter's looking pretty old, but she's also mean. she might be like 30 and just mean-nessed herself into early wrinkles.

[@null9090]

Yeah, monarchs are pretty much required to have offspring. I'm not surprised that he did, even if he was a big doofus nerd.

[@unknownPLfan]

I feel like for Ba Sing Se the walls are probably so iconic they have to keep them as whatever the equivalent would be of a UNESCO world heritage site in Avatar. And yes, it's true we basically stopped building walls when cannons were invented but for a while we were building some towns in star forts, building star forts next to towns, or building star-fort type structures as partial fortifications until the 19th century.

[@dillydraws]

It's like the great wall of China.

[@macewindu5195]

We didn’t stop building walls though?

[@dronix6624]

2:34 I think you're SEVERLEY overestimating my abillity to use my brain

[@silverloop9029]

maybe he remember Zuko and his mom feeding the ducks? i dont get the joke either

[@DrewWutsit]

Please we need to know😢😢

[@Retaurdé]

The shadows weren’t over the koi pond.

[@joshualawall5554]

Inconclusive evidence of normal ducks!!!!

[@dronix6624]

@@joshualawall5554 omg ur a fucking genius!!!

[@tirex3673]

Removing the walls of Ba Sing Se would be the same as removing the great wall of china, even without defensive value, the historical value is enormous. Also, I'm not convinced, the walls don't have any defensive value, just because of air ships. Not everything is an air ship.

[@SkyPerson]

Plus the main purpose of the walls within the outer-most wall is to enforce Ba Sing Se’s Class System and keep the poor people away. So they’re still serving their function

[@ks-hb2jt]

I feel like he’s been missing a lot with his critiques lately. The Ming Hua thing in the last episode made me so angry lmao

[@SkyPerson]

@@ks-hb2jt he does make something of a good point there, it is a bit weird she can bend without arms I don’t think it’s a system-breaking as Amon & Yakons psychic bloodbending

[@ks-hb2jt]

@@SkyPerson not at all. Bending is a martial art. The idea that the disabled aren’t capable of tweaking that to suit them and make it their own thing is just silly and I’d say disconnected or even ignorant.

[@SkyPerson]

@@ks-hb2jt I completely agree, but she isn’t really tweaking it, it’s not like she’s doing kicks and headbutts or torso-gesturing-push moves, she’s just using telekinesis to make water arms

[@TheSpoegefugl]

I feel like it was hinted at well enough in ATLA that the cold suppressed fire bending, but firebenders with sufficient skill and training know of ways to counteract it. We see in the north pole that Zuko emerges from icy water and uses his fire breath to warm his hands after Iroh told him to remember his breath of fire. I also don't recall seeing anyone other than Zuko or Iroh breathe fire, so I feel like it's a rare technique that isn't as impacted by the cold

[@AKFieldsTV]

8:38 i love that Zuko hasnt changed over the years. He for sure wouldve said something similar in atla. With the long pause too 😭

[@Andez1248]

My headcanon is that the Earth King got seduced by a golddigger and he really believed she loved him, then the current Earth Queen was raised by her greedy, pompous mother which shaped who she grew up to be

[@KairuHakubi]

Yes. I 100% buy this.

[@Toadkillah]

8:55 this is probably my favourite funny interaction in LoK. Zuko seems very in character in that he's still akward around strangers and Eska's deadpan delivery really hits for me.

[@foxi13x]

Before we get to it next week, i must already say, i love the way the sound design for the combustion-bending that P'Li uses. 10/10 best sound design in the show. In ATLA it was awesome too. Gotta be my most favourite style of bending. And P'Li's death later on, has to be one of the most brutal deaths, altough similar to how combustion man died.

[@Toadkillah]

I love it, it's so graphic despite showing nothing. A really good way of letting the audience's mind fill in the blanks.

[@RudeXII]

2:57 - the face the earth queen makes here looks exactly like something that would come out of The Boondocks

[@sidharthsanegepalli683]

I just assumed that the beams were not beams, but pathways to rooms in the ice canyon.

[@samwildstein2092]

The walls are more about preserving internal social order, which is an element we saw in Airbender. Airships are still an ultra-luxury; as we see most residents can't even afford to take a train to the Upper Ring.

[@trevhart2124]

2:46 Eh, the Earth King was charming, kind, a man in power, even went out on his own after his city was taken down to see the world and expand his horizon. It's easy for me to see that he had a kid. I'm more surprised that his kid was such a freaking brat.

[@shai5651]

Maybe at one point the Earth King got a life changing trip with Zuko.

[@CjSoils]

Dude you sound so energetic this episode I love it

[@dillydraws]

The power of Korra season 3

[@DerrickWilson-fm7vc]

Even as someone that called Korrasami at the beginning of season 3, I don’t think I quite realized just how much time they spend together in this season. Probably because Asami is a piece of wood character that doesn’t really have anything going on other than the writers trying really hard to make us think she’s cool

[@KairuHakubi]

Yeah as someone who called total BS on it for making no sense and coming out of nowhere, I am also really surprised to see how much time they actually spent together. And that is exactly why. Wooden, that's a perfect way to put it.

[@mysticdigital5936]

I think what really elevates Mako giving his scarf away for me is that it is a permanent design change. So the moment itself is small, but it has lasting consequence and even if Mako has been insufferable at times, they did set up how important his scarf is to him in season 1. The episode isn't a standout, but Kai being a thief is fun and Korra and Asami hanging out is fun.

[@des6853]

Just saying that as a competitive martial artist artist who has used that move before, Asami’s scissor leg throw to knock the guy off the motorcycle is more plausible than that looks. to do it to someone coming at you on a moving vehicle would still be insanely difficult, but you can negate the impact by finishing the twist with your hips and the energy and momentum are transferred into the force that tosses the guy off.

[@gzach70]

No no actually i do buy that there is a theater in the lower ring. In real life movies were incredibly popular amongst the pour during and around the great depression. Their cheap cost combined with the idea of "escapism" made them incredibly marketable towards the lower class. Same thing for fairs and side shows like buffalo bill.

[@Eri587]

Overanalyzing Avatar: Rivalry ended with the full moon every episode, now i hate same food shots.

[@Emiturbina]

9:55 That's a very real thing that happens here in Latam and is extremely common, poor people get bored and start pumping kids they can't afford while believing having them starve is more morally correct than not having them

[@BuschHawg]

I think maybe the regular Fish and Ducks is a throwback to how the old Earth King had and was fascinated with his pet (regular)Bear that no one had ever heard of

[@macewindu5195]

But it isn’t a normal duck, it’s a turtle duck, like with a turtle shell, like the ones from zukos backstory

[@floortjetjeertes3898]

i do like how the earyh queen has 2 nail guards to symbolise the fact that she really does not like to actually do anything for herself or for the earthkingdom.

[@TheGreyAngelic]

5:22 Alright, bare with me here, so I do Genga animation every here and there. I don't know this for a fact mind you, but in the industry it's typical for studios like these to use a 3D model in the drawing space they then outline and redraw to look more natural in the scene. I wouldn't be surprised if that food meal is actually just a set of 3D models they used as references and refused to use any other possibly due to budget or maybe even it could be a joke lol xD just my 2 cents!

[@RandomHandle837]

Tonrak probably isn't very pleased with the conversation about killing the avatar considering the current one is his daughter lol

[@macewindu5195]

Yes, hence the visible discomfort which turns to anger when eska talks about attempting to kill korra

[@Godzilla00X]

Senior Zutara is the gentleman's korra ship

[@fobbie8385]

To answer the comment about walls. Cannons made high walls like castles less common, but things like star fortresses and bastions with ditches and low defensive positioning walls were used up until the mid 19th century. The real killer for fortress style fortifications was modern arching artillery with high explosives. Walls stop cannonballs and gunfire. They trap you in against artillery that lobs explosives into your city or town of fortress. Air power exacerbated this, but defensive warfare had largely moved underground by the time we had bombers

[@peterhoskins2683]

Aeronautical Engineer here, but we take a lot of mechanical classes. If we assume this is not in a place with near-constant temperatures, especially above the melting point of the water a few things can happen. Firstly, the ice can itself shift and crack. While having people down here, that could be catastrophic, so the struts would make sense in that case. In terms of the way the loading would be applied (on angles, rather than straight across) could be a product of two things: 1) the ice shifting has moved where the anchors are relative to the glaciers, or 2) the glaciers also needed some vertical component of support with the primary concern being us getting squished between the ice a slight incline would make sense in this case. The alternating style actually provides bending and torsional resistances across a 2-d plane better than if they were all angled in the same direction.

[@Grey_3438]

1:40 INCONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE OF *NORMAL FISH!*

[@macewindu5195]

I mean twi and the other one were also just normal fish

[@Andrew-wl3hn]

@@macewindu5195 "Thats Avatar stuff that doesnt count 🫸"

[@bob_kazamakis]

Engineer here! In my professional opinion when watching that scene for the first time years ago, I got the vibe that they were trying to mimic the dungeon for the Kung Fu Panda villain, except where the main surrounding setting is ice. I hope this helps in no way at all

[@TheOwneroftheIC]

Asami would at least busted her ACL, assuming she landed safely after colliding with a speeding motorcycle.

[@BreddyK]

"You know what they say, shorty wants to see ice then ice the wrist" -Overanalyzing Avatar, 2024.

[@hilmiylmaz527]

historian here! the main reason why city walls fall out of use is because: cities started to grow rapidly during industrialization, they grew too fast to build new walls around them, and they needed a lot of space for huge factories, ports, and warehouses. in the modern day walls are mainly used by governments to control the movement of people, to keep them in, out, or segregated. that is why to me it makes sense that ba sing se would still have its wall, they are for control not defense.

[@Andrew-wl3hn]

Hi! licensed professional engineer here: the short answer is that its hard to tell, i'd assume it's a structural practice to make sure the ice is stable and doesn't cave in. That's what i've always assumed anyway.

[@domagojskalec4377]

1:51 no I actually don't know what they say lmao

[@Moss_Dude]

I just got back to finishing your overanalyzing avatar series after 3 years, and I didn't think this would still be going! I guess I should get around to watching Korra already?

[@Bryan_BeBe003]

the walls probably serve as a historical landmark rather than being used to keep people out, kind of like how the great wall of china isn't seen so much as a border now but as a historical landmark ♡

[@redneckdragon2642]

1:48 judging by the jingle sound the earth kingdom still uses coin based currency. There’s a free one overanalyzing

[@dannycarrillo456]

9:04 essential it could prevent them from being crushed in case of movement from the walls of the ravine and that movement could be from seismic activity, thermal contraction, or maybe it's not a ravine and it's literally just some giant chip in a glacier and those braces help keep the chip from contracting completely and those braces are a final failsafe incase she breaks out by destroying the braces it crushes her inside the chip

[@JakeWolven]

Thanks for pointing out the desert scene in the last video, I used that shadow idea as inspiration for an art piece and directly used the screenshot from your video as a reference lol

[@sagewerk5025]

well canons only meant the evolvement of fortifications, more earthworks. The city wall only really fall out of fashion in the 1800s because of the influx of workers in the factories, and still, vity walls in some places still exsist usually in extreme conflicted places, so some israeli settlements, or some citys in northern irland

[@tacotaco1111]

3:09 I spat my drink all over my keyboard

[@mariandecker3942]

In our world, classic castles were obsolete with advanced firearms. Still, star-forts etc were used to defend against atillerie. Walls weren't obsolete

[@jasonlavallee8195]

I think the tinny voice of bolin is because they are in a small train car. They most likely added a short reverb for small spaces and it csn sound a bit odd for sure.

[@bartholomewbinkleberry3822]

I don’t think the city’s walls are that useless against flying vehicles. Anyone unauthorised to fly over them would just get met with a volley of rocks right into their propellers/hull. An issue only arises at smaller, more nimble planes but lucky shots are still a thing. Considering that and the myriad of guards posted on top of it I think the odds are pretty low of flying in

[@Puckett.]

I kind of like the theory that Jin (the girl who dated Zuko in Ba Sing Sa) is Mako and Bolin’s grandmother. Helps give closure to a character that I think ended pretty badly in ATLA.

[@macewindu5195]

Is the evidence for that theory that they would both be elderly women by this point, and Jin lived in ba sing se, which is where bolin and makos grandmother lives like 80 years later.

[@Puckett.]

@@macewindu5195 that’s pretty much the only evidence of the theory. It is a similar section of Ba Sing Sa as well.

[@jonahpaley5725]

While other people have pointed out that the walls of Ba Sing Se are maintained because of their cultural significance to the Earth Kingdom (much akin to the Great Wall of China Today) I also want to point out that they are socially important to the pseudo-caste system the earth kingdom has going on. The walls separate the rings of the city, allowing the wealthy and powerful to live out their lives without having to reckon with the reality of the slums of the city. They aren't just to protect the city from assault, but also to protect the oppressive social order.

[@Lerald01]

The quality jump on this season is huge. Even episodes like these are leagues above anything from 1 and 2.

[@goblintube2562]

I think all TLOK needed was freaking more episodes so they didn’t have to rush the character arc, because they known they had more time this time they could actually write the characters with more realistic scenes

[@robertvanek1933]

Just because the walls are ineffective doesn't mean they need to be removed, they're still a major landmark and important to the culture

[@jonathanperreira7422]

I love coming home from school/work to find you posted one of these videos

[@TheTolnoc]

They specifically re-draw the same kind of food, it's not *exactly* the same images as the other times, it's specifically a new version of the old food.

[@nikmariealex]

3:10 🗣️ Criss Cross, everybody clap your hands 😂

[@the_doug_digital]

11:05 As strange as Harmonic Convergence basically reintroducing airbenders into the world was as a story beat, I am in love with the character concepts it generates. Things like Tenzin teaching a large group of benders, Kai being a little airbending shit, and obviously an airbending villain/antagonist in the form of Zaheer

[@11tw48]

The walls achieve very little defensively now, that's absolutely true, but what are they gonna do - pull them down? The city is huge into tradition, and like other commenters have pointed out, they still divide up the 3 rings. Yes, if the fire nation or united republic, or some rebel faction in the earth kingdom, were to invade the city they'd fly right over the walls and bomb stuff... but land armies would still be unable to march right in, short of having earthbenders ready to tear down the walls unopposed. Basically it's a mixture of: - the walls continue to exist because why wouldn't they, there's no real reason to tear them down - they still have a defensive use, just a more marginal one - most enemies of the kingdom, like random bandits, won't have advanced airpower - the city has anti-air defenses, as we see in ATLA, in the form of surface-to-air rocks which they can launch VERY high it seems - the walls continue to have a use in maintaining the class system and ring structure - they're a traditional feature which is like a wonder of the world, in a city led by a secret police who "maintain traditions" under a queen who is all about that stuff

[@phosphoros60]

Man, there is no war in Ba Sing Sei, there are no Air Benders in Ba Sing Sei... Can't have shit in Ba Sing Sei!

[@thatbeamguy]

11:10 Were just not gonna talk about how TERRIFYING that is

[@Alienoiable]

We didn't stop building walls because of cannons. Plenty of forts were still made before but also loooooong after the apparition of cannons. We stopped "building walls" only around the cities, because at some point the population would just start to grow immensely and expand out of the walls so tearing down old walls to rebuild new ones further away was just a stupid and pricey endeavour. Walls were made a lot less efficient in the "traditional" way of building it (think like a castle rempart) and instead they needed to be built in a very different way, which would not fit at all within the design of a city (check out Vauban's fort style). Warfare evolved significantly but walls were still a big part of it for a long time. instead we started building forts and defensive structures to protect strategic points to ensure the enemy *didn't* get too close to the cities (or inside of them). We really stopped building walls after WW1, where the development of long range artillery as well as military planes and ballons proved that walls weren't really doing much anymore.

[@tphanatik]

At 11:22 subtle detail but I love that they thought to make his pupils dilate when the door closed. I guess indicating that it's darker in there than it seems.

[@BonkersSubStet]

5:53 I reckon it's quite possible to be able to point out relatives. The other day I passed school kid and was able to tell that she was my cousin who I've only seen when she was a young child. The facial genetics gave it all away. Glad she was my cousin, would have been quite awkward otherwise ....

[@miza000]

Engineer coment* Yeah, Large amounts of ice tend to move over time. Like very slow water flowing. But those beams probably would not help, the ice would move around them. So... Yeah, just some random good looking structures.

[@saxeladude]

2:20 maybe the clip of the firenation taking over was from a different part of the palace. maybe that enterance behind the staue in the back looks suitable.

[@Venom-rf5bt]

I see the wall as more of a historical landmark more than defense at this point. It’s not like they’re going to take down the Great Wall of china just because planes exist now, same with the wall for Ba Sing Se.

[@eloimireault8401]

I swear, after a long horrible day of lectures, it's always wonderful to get a new episode on my way back home

[@N3M0_______________________243]

The walls would probably be easier to keep up instead of getting rid of them

[@rcutler9]

All the things you say in the beginning about the earth kingdom make perfect sense. It's an antiquated city that failed to keep up with modern times

[@ottoboettger9627]

9:09 other guy got it, but for a fun thought exercise Waterbenders can move the ice walls wherever they want, ice sublimates. They could be leftover supports or scaffolding from elevator construction Or They are breaks so if icebergs fall when everyone is asleep it breaks and doesnt kill or free people

[@GaltarDude1138]

4:08 I think it's because they're now in a train car and to drive that home they did a lil effect on his voice?

[@sorbet2599]

dayum I've just found out your videos 2 weeks ago and I'm loving them! Great job bro keep going with this

[@PhantoRoyce]

9:23 for the record,Zuko using his fire breathing to keep himself warm is likely apart of his ninja bag. It’s based on a real ninja breathing technique to keep your body supplemented with warm air. It’s probably not a technique many people know

[@egalomon]

6:30 holy mother of continuity errors! That's a big one!

[@resurgam_b7]

Walls may be mostly obsolete by this point in the avatar timeline, but why would you go through all the effort of disassembling such an enormous and culturally significant structure. With earth bending, it wouldn't be hard to add extra gates to expand the city outside the walls if space was an issue, and taking down the entire wall would be a huge project since even if the actual dismantling wouldn't be difficult, you still have to find somewhere to put the hundreds of thousands of tons of stone which make it up. Our own world has much more fragile structures that have survived either by happenstance or active preservation for much, much longer than the 80 years which have passed here since we last saw the wall, so I don't see a reason why any significant portion of such a monumental component of the city would have been altered or removed, even if it was no longer a key part of the city's defense.

[@maskofthedragon]

7:18 Asami has no purpose in this entire s̶e̶a̶s̶o̶n̶ sequence, except Bryke very desperately giving the houseplant screentime

[@unclefranklin4575]

It's weird how season 4 has no real fight scenes including with Asami, and that's probably her best season

[@ACEepic]

11:10 in the kyoshi books her mom was kind of like that but she isn't really a prominent character, would recommend though those books are great.

[@matthewrolfe7077]

literally been binge watching the whole of season 2 and now 3 of overanalyzing Korra and just as i finished the previous one this came out. Legendary timing

[@leslie_s2001]

From what I know from skiing: beams (or hooks) are normally used to keep snow from sliding. Assuming that these beams serve a similar purpose.

[@iceryu66]

If I was to guess, the beam act as cross bracing to keep the walls from coming together, but I mostly work in aluminum, not ice. It's a nice set up episode, and I think it also sets up a contrast to Zaofu, where they also have an Earth Queen who is far more benevolent toward her people (even though I think shes a narcissist).