Overanalyzing Star Wars: Return of the Jedi Part 2

[@cinemagoose]

Something that was in the novelization of this movie that I wish got in was that while Han shouts up to Jabba, he's faced the wrong way, and Chewie has to manually turn him around to face Jabba. I always thought that was a funny moment that probably should've been in the film.

[@VinVonVoom]

That _is_ in the movie but it's when he's first freed from Carbonite and Leia has to rotate him.

[@Strongpoint_S]

my headcannon is that Bobba was drunk from partying. VERY drunk.

[@kdusel1991]

At least we know he survived 😂😂

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

I can get behind that

[@mitchvechart7164]

ON DANCER ON PRANCER ON JABBA N BLITZEN!

[@antoinechery9117]

10:43 With Yoda's confirmation of his lineage, Luke now understands his vision from the cave in 'The Empire Strikes Back.' That's how he knows there's still good in the Dark Lord. Vader is Luke's shadow, and Luke is Vader's light. Booth have to power to turn the other over.

[@threadsketch7267]

Yeah, I'd wanted to mention to Gold Man - a year is a decent span of time for Luke to do a lot of thinking, and for both empathy and desperation to bring him to the conclusion that there's still good in Vader. Obi-Wan described Anakin as "a good friend" on top of the basic info that he was once a Jedi Knight. Fresh off of Bespin, Luke was reeling, but after being able to step back and mull things over, Luke likely seized on the fact that in his extremely twisted way, Vader still wanted a paternal relationship with him. Lastly, Luke has now realized how thin the line is between him and the Dark Side (though still not as intimately as he will during his confrontation with the Emperor). If he can bring his father back, then that means there's hope for himself too; conversely, if there's no redemption for Vader, Luke is doomed as well if he goes down that path. Vader is no longer a faceless monolith of evil, there's a man somewhere behind that literal and figurative mask, a man who shares Luke's blood. I can buy his determination to find that man for reasons that are altogether compassionate, self-aware, and despairing.

[@antoinechery9117]

@threadsketch7267 Exactly! Luke, like any rebel, wants to end this war but knows that in doing so, he's likely to succumb to his dark side. Saving Vader through love and compassion is his way of saving his own soul and distancing himself from the old Jedi Order. He's a Jedi Knight of a new kind, but first and foremost, Luke is a good man.

[@threadsketch7267]

@@antoinechery9117 Yep, couldn't have said it better myself (and I enjoyed your original comment about how each of them is a mirror for the other in terms of what could've/should've been). Luke is a good man because when the chips were down, he chose understanding rather than violence. That's what makes him such a powerful figure in any imagining of a post-ROTJ world, because he comprehends what can push people to such terrible lengths and how there's always a choice available to turn back from that. The inspiration of Luke Skywalker as an iconic pop culture character isn't that he's the son of the Chosen One and has the potential to be the greatest Jedi ever based on his family lineage, it's that he stared into the abyss and not only said no to it, but extended a hand and asked if it would follow him instead.

[@maxgraivier2024]

3:37 I think it’s implied that Han’s not 100% blind but is seeing everything blurry. That’s why he can tell where Luke and Chewie are but has a hard time aiming precisely when shooting the sarlacc to save Lando.

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

You are correct

[@mitchvechart7164]

He did also say like 15 seconds prior “ya know my eyes ARE gettin a lot better”

[@dib_human6151]

For some reason, the scene with R2 happily serving some drinks is the funniest shit i have ever seen

[@KoolKatDave]

When the Sail Barge (Khetanna) exploded and the Skiff zoomed by, there was a ton of shrapnel and debris from that explosion that would have cut thru the skiff and its passengers like a knife thru butter.

[@kdusel1991]

Babe wake up new overanalyzing ROTJ video just dropped!!

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

Enjoy!

[@methe0dds]

8:06 To me, the prequels were the peak of the serious Yoda, and even then he still was a smartass, I really liked it when he was teasing Obi-Wan in front of younglings in Attack of the Clones.

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

That was a great Yoda moment I’ll give you that

[@Lincolnium_]

11:14 “do or do not, there is no try”

[@VinVonVoom]

9:56 There was a deleted line in the Yoda scene where Yoda says "Obi-Wan would've told you had I let him" about Vader's identity as Luke's dad and it would've fixed this bogus explanation a ton.

[@tahuaroa]

“Pork is back in the menu boys”😂

[@wickdaline8668]

The new game, Star Wars: Outlaws, is meant to be between TESB and ROTJ, I think. There are missions featuring Jabba, and I think Lando is meant to cameo, too. What if Kay Bess's mission to Jabba's palace is an infiltration mission to search for Han? Retroactively making Kay as Lando's source in finding Han.

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

That would be cool

[@MaxRawhide]

4:56 I wouldn't call Lando totally useless. Sure, he completely failed to defeat that guard and needed to be rescued. But he definitely served a purpose. If he hadn't been there, then that guard could've shot Luke or Han or Chewbacca. Possibly worse, because if it hadn't been Lando as a Skiff guard, then there had been a Jabba loyalist and Luke would've needed to fight off two more opponents. Lando definitely served a purpose. It just wasn't a heroic purpose. Other than that, you raise some good points

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

fair enough!

[@richardd5645]

1:48 Mark Hamil is left handed but he was taught to fence/sword fight right handed. Also, my dark interpretation of Star Wars is that nobody actually cares about the droids (the few people who do are actually exceptions rather than the rule), the same way the Jedi don't seem to care about the clones (effectively a slave army).

[@lasercraft32]

Something that's always confused me, is WHY does Jabba like dressing women in sleezy outfits? He's a fat slug creature that is an entirely different species. We know for a fact that females of the same species are just as fat and sluggish as Jabba is... So why is he attracted to humanoid women? Is this like the Star Wars equivalent of being a Furry or something? I know its probably just to show Jabba's immorality, but its still strange... I bet it was really just an excuse for them to put Leia in a metal bikini.

[@threadsketch7267]

Yeah, it was retconned in later lore that Jabba was considered a pervert and a weirdo by his own species precisely for that reason of being attracted to humanoid females. (And yes, you're 100% correct that it really was just an excuse to shove Carrie Fisher in a metal bikini.)

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

He’s a pervert

[@broncojuan]

There was absolutely speculation that Vader was lying. I made the argument for three years he was lying. (now, keep in mind I was 5) I hated this reveal with every fiber of my being. Cried over it, got in fights over it... But, somehow, seeing Yoda verify it for Luke, I was instantly OK with it...

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

That’s awesome to hear!

[@raindeerprojekt4119]

Your Rancor Rant was on Point and GREAT!!! I Subbed

[@noodleboodle9750]

Mark Hamill is left handed for most things, so that throw was natural for him.

[@DabigJK]

Mark hamill COOKS

[@kdusel1991]

He was the best thing about TLJ imho.

[@bacondorito]

2:25 Obi-Wan when Qui-Gon dies? Anakin flying the starfighter? Watto either always scheming or being pissed? Shmi and Anakin when he's leaving? There's plenty of emotion in TPM if you actually think about it. Just not for the Jedi Council or Senate scenes, which is probably all you were thinking of. But even then, Chancellor Valorum's look of defeat after the vote of no confidence is really good.

[@HeroofHyrule2468]

My head canon is that Rex told Luke about Anakin so that’s why he believes Darth Vader can be turned to the lightside

[@MrMerlyn]

Great Video! Little Nitpick: „Pork is back on the Menu“. Was Said by a urukai Not a ork also in the Book the urukai Are from sarumon and the Orks Modor Thats makes them in my eyes more seprate

[@FormulaShorts]

we back again!

[@kaguya6900]

[Raises hand] I was one of the people who went for three years thinking Vader was lying to Luke, and he was somehow manipulating the force to make it seem true.

[@randallwong7196]

Boba Fett... Kinda mysterious, also considered super-dangerous Behaves like an inexperienced bounty hunter with his jet pack slapped by bad luck, then falls into the rancor pit ( escapes in a novel ) He doesn't seem that dangerous at all

[@donovangomez9489]

That one Twilek smh... Her name is Oola and she is a person! 😂😂😂

[@micahallee4235]

As a life long Boba Fett fan I will openly admit there is zero logic behind Boba Fett becoming what he was. Here is the deal. I watched Star Wars from... as longas I can remember. My love of Boba Fett is illiogical and based mostly on one important factor. My childhood imagination. What Boba Fett ACTUALLY was in the film nattered very little to 8 year old me. What mattered was he looked fucking cool and his ship looked fucking cool. My love for Boba Fett is not about "well in the film" it is the years making up my own adventures and drawing Boba Fett and his ship when I should have been doing my long division home work. Boba Fett forever.

[@raindeerprojekt4119]

I lived it when It came out. We all thought it was Lazy writing... FYI But It was better than Disney lol

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

You lived it?

[@raindeerprojekt4119]

@@starwarsoveranalyzed When the Movie came out in the Theaters But Mainly on VHS It was often seen as Weak or Lazy Writing. As was the 2nd Death Star. Even as a kid We felt like content was missing. lol We often Would make our own story on how the characters interacted Between the movies. We had to wait for Jedi to be released but, Star Wars and Empire left gaps for our imagination to run wild and it did!! lol I still clung to the hope that secretly Obi Wan was Luke's dad. lol But After Jedi there was no going back. Star Wars and Empire really set things up pretty well but they also were Mcclunkey at times. We all Talked about weird plot holes and had our own Theories. The Sequel Trilogy we did and still do the same. But This now includes my kids and my Grandkids lol For over 3 Generations we have mulled ( Mauled) over these 9 works of Art. Thank you for your Great content and insight. I have told the family about your channel and told them to Sub. I don't always agree with your jazz but YOU are really good at putting out fine content and are also open for other opinions. You got this Sir. Cheers

[@wolfxp2]

All sith care about the rule of 2 when it suites them

[@matthewtorres9075]

Luke maybe more powerful in this one but he isn't a full Jedi till after confronting Vader.

[@raindeerprojekt4119]

Yoda Called down Lightning In the Physical Realm. THAT is out of Cannon and Character

[@starwarsoveranalyzed]

How so?

[@RedCaio]

lol just like how force telekinesis appearing in Empire Strikes Back breaks canon right? Since it never happened in A New Hope. and how force sensing people's thoughts in Return of the Jedi breaks canon? New force powers appear all the time buddy. that's how stories work. You can dislike them all you want, but I'm sick of entitle people calling everything they don't like "not canon".

[@raindeerprojekt4119]

@@RedCaio Not Canon it is. Be Sick you will

[@bacondorito]

@@RedCaio it's out of character for a Jedi to be able to control lightning like that. Plo Koon was the only one able to use force judgment, and it took a lot out of him to use it not give into the dark side. Plus, it ruins force ghosts by showing they can interact with the world. Obi-Wan saying he cannot interfere in V was just an excuse now. And it opens the question of why all the force ghosts didn't just show up and kill Palpatine in tros.

[@gutt2528]

I don’t think you should correct this movie for changes made in the prequels. If anything you should give the prequels shit for not following the originals better

[@bacondorito]

well Qui-Gon was an excellent addition, and Obi-Wan still took it upon himself to train Anakin. He didn't have to fulfill his promise. But he did. Anakin even almost chose to leave at one point in a book or comic, but Obi-Wan convinced him to stay.