What is the Best Public Transport in Cities Skylines & Why?

[@MrGunsnrosesfan100]

"Cycling is such an overpowered mechanic" As someone who lives in an area that actually has good cycling infrastructure (the Netherlands) I can tell you right now that people genuinely will cycle from one end of the map to the other. with a 9 by 9 map and the pythagoras theorem we can determine that the largest distance is 12.7km, which we can multiply by 1.2 to take into account that it's unlikely that you just have a straight diagonal road, leading to a distance of 15.3km which is roughly the distance I cycled to school when I was 13. Granted, I did choose to go to a school that was further away (I was bullied in primary school and didn't want to be in the same class as any of those kids again. Spoiler alert: it didn't help, I was still bullied) and most of the route was over country roads rather than through a city. So idk if you meant overpowered as in "this is unrealistically good" or not, but it isn't unrealistic at all. people will genuinely cycle large distances if given adequate infrastructure.

[@duffal0]

I’m not even gonna lie that confused tf out of me….

[@vochtigverleden3974]

Can confirm. I have a 30km cummute by bike everyday to work, thats the other side of the map. Also with zero traffick lights and dedicated bike lanes throughout most of the route.

[@Alangmod]

I cycle to my grandparent at the other end of the city 15 km away so i get you

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

cycling is OP irl as well. Costs $200 to buy, lasts for 5-10 years (if invest in decent lock and don't leave it at unsafe places over night) with some minimal caretaking, and is free to use. It's a steal compared to any other transport type. Plus free exercise.

[@Thisisalamp]

Agree with this. Lived in The Hague for 5 years, cycled from one city to another, from my school to everywhere, from one pub to another. it was really convenient because the cycling paths were laid out so well and encourages everyone to cycle. Only one gripe I had IRL was someone stole my bike because it looked more modern than other typical Netherlands bikes out there.

[@szymenxd1]

Trams have one more huge advantage: they don't require special stations. You can place stops just on the tracks. I love them because they have pretty high capacity and also there are many options for placing them.

[@The-NSA]

They also can be easily integrated to pre existing roads.

[@Nhatanh0475]

And so do normal bus :/ I don’t like it when citizen have to always cross the road to the median on 4 lane road. They have higher capacity but very often block the traffic a lot.

[@FizzyJuiceCool]

the disadvantage is that they require snowfall

[@VanillaV4]

@@Nhatanh0475 Theres a certain road that has trams only track id recommened using it as its op because it dosent colide with traffic

[@INTJa98]

But it costs the land value

[@dbclass4075]

Clarifications: • Taxi stands do not serve as waiting points for passengers. They are waiting spots for idle taxis who do not have a fare yet, but still have work shift remaining. That way, taxis do not have to needlessly drive back to their corresponding depot. Passengers just simply stand on a pavement/sidewalk, make call, and wait for a taxi. They are difficult to spot, but these fares are shaded in the same color as taxi buildings in public transportation info view. They are commonly found near any intercity transport building (airport, harbor, Space Elevator, etc.). Note: taxis can receive fares enroute to depot or stands, then divert straight to the fare without having to reach reach the depot or stand. • Cable car is a feasible alternative where congested roads can impact the reliability of buses, but not enough demand to warrant a higher capacity transit. • Intercity trains will randomly pick a platform to stop to before they start their journey. Because of these, ALL platforms must be connected to outside rail connection. • Numerous hub buildings have at least one built-in underground metro, including both variants of Multiplatform Train Stations. Unless there is another metro line, that underground metro station at 11:19 is unnecessary. • Because cyclist are coded as pedestrians, they do not suffer congestion in the manner road and rail vehicles do. • Prior to free update that accompany Sunset Harbor, metro is underground-only, 6-car consist, and capacity of 180 passengers. It is now 5-car consist, 150 passengers. • Space Elevator is a public transport monument. It is essentially a ploppable (passenger-only) outside connection.

[@captain61games49]

Intercity trains don't have to go to ALL platforms unless you want them too. You can send them only to your train hubs by selecting the other railway stations and deslecting the Allow Intercity Trains option in the info box.

[@dbclass4075]

@@captain61games49 You are referring to the entire station. What I mean within the station that allows intercity stations, all tracks must be connected to the outside world because train will randomly pick a platform. If it can't reach the platform it want to stop to, it will despawn. Kind of the flicker 1,0 service vehicles.

[@captain61games49]

@@dbclass4075 true my Dyslic Brain just read Platform as Station

[@Torthrodhel]

I kinda hate that space elevator is the thing that's what that is. I can't get over how stupid it looks to just have an infinite line shooting up from the map like that, and I never want to use it because of it. They couldn't think of something more realistic? Yes, yes I know it's a theoretical thing-wot-could-exist but come on it's still pretty dumb isn't it. It's not gonna exist is it. Couldn't have been an international jet line, something along those lines? Who's going via space just to get into a city, anyway? Are they suggesting there's a martian colony those tourists are from? I mean that's nice but a little off-kilter with the flavour of everything else. I wish you could swap around the look/function of buildings in general. Anything you don't like the look of, just replace it with something else you do. And any of the zonable stuff you really wanna use as a municipal building, just grab the look of it and assign it a function (obviously limited to what makes sense, so e.g. a residential house isn't gonna be a ferry port). That'd help with some of the really lovely industries buildings on maps without that resource, too! Maybe that gigantic bucket crane can actually be on the seafront where it looks good next to all the other cranes? Maybe it's I dunno, a sand filtering thing (recycling center). That'll work. I also wish residential housing would stop beeping. Who the hell decided that's what houses sound like?!?

[@yvrelna]

I don't own the DLC for taxi, so I don't really understand how it's used in the game. But how is taxi different from cars? In real life, taxis makes some sense because they reduce they reduce the need for parking and cars as it is always moving instead of sitting in the sun 90% of the time. But in Cities, people spawn and despawn pocket cars, taxis still take up road spaces, load the same number of passengers as cars, they need to drive around looking for passengers, and people still have to wait to get to their destination instead of spawning their pocket cars.

[@analogbunny]

I'd bump up trolleybuses by one tier; they do rank lower than buses in most ways because of the infrastructure, but they also produce the least amount of noise. These are buses for suburban sidestreets. Just like ferries, they're fine but only have a very specific and narrow use case. I'd also put trans at #1, although the biggest advantage for metros is that they almost always run at a profit. They're the only service that reliably does.

[@Sparkiebc]

Trams rights

[@dukeradwardthe5th843]

From my limited experience with them I also observed trolley busses to wait significantly shorter times at stops than regular busses, which is my biggest gripe with regular busses. As for noise, I think the gas-powered busses are similarily quiet iirc

[@wta1518]

With Sunset Harbor the metros are far less overpowered.

[@Nhatanh0475]

Metro can make a profit? Yes Metro always make profit? Not entirely true.

[@mozomenku]

Also trolleybuses don't produce fumes

[@samueleveleigh2767]

My best experience with monorail has to be when i somehow managed to get so many people using them they were propping up the entire city financially. To this day i have no idea what i did but it sure made "new bezos" one memorable city.

[@ctdaniels7049]

Mono = One! Rail = Rail!

[@janestarz]

Yes please, more of these! I'd love to see a tiered ranking of the vanilla maps. We all love Murky Coast because of Palaven, but I'm sure you can tell us a ton of details about the maps that came with the game and its DLCs that I've never even realised.

[@OVERCHARGEDEGG]

I can certainly take a look! Thank you Jane!

[@Sweet05cts]

@@OVERCHARGEDEGG I can certainly give you a hand, lord knows i've played every stock map 100 times over

[@Sweet05cts]

@@OVERCHARGEDEGG I can certainly give you a hand, lord knows i've played every stock map 100 times over

[@autolykos9822]

BonBonB has already done something similar here: kzbin.info/aero/PLOdJfwm1gxpisZge2kgnpuHOVonbe2vzR But I'd also be interested in OEs take on it.

[@TangerineUnicornDesign]

You're so mean about blimps 😂 I can't deny they're totally rubbish for actual transport but they're brilliant for adding detail to your cities. So good for a tight circular line over a sports precinct or olympic park build and really good to simulate a sightseeing route as there aren't any actual hot air balloons. You can also re-skin them with some great workshop assets for sci-fi metropolis builds.

[@Myne1001]

I thought there was hot air balloons?

[@dbclass4075]

@@Myne1001 Yes, but they are not intended for transit. Besides, balloons always starts and ends in the same place. They provide tours in the same way as walking and bus tours does. Differences: • Effectiveness depends on the attractiveness of land area surround thing Hot Air Balloon Tours building. • No routes can be set. Balloons fly randomly in similar fashion as light planes of Aviation Club do.

[@Myne1001]

@@dbclass4075 yeah I know but you do get that aesthetic of balloons flying over your city, OP was sort of implying they don't exist altogether in the game.

[@dbclass4075]

@@Myne1001 Neither walking tours nor bus tours are mentioned as well.

[@Solus749]

I utilize them in montainous areas with alot of up and down since blimps don't have to care about elevation at all. I had a city map where I had to build houses and stores on 3 diffrent levels and needed to connect them. Blimps did the job splendidly without taking up precious space on the few roadconection options I had. They isn't fast moving and have low transport numbers though so they are c tier for me. Blimps are used real life in england and a few more places as gods and limited people transport methods though so they do exist rl as well.

[@clayd4488]

cable cars are incredible for crossing rivers, cims absolutely love them. If I have a big city thats dense on both sides of a river, I can drop in a cable car and get hundreds of riders a week no problem

[@poelmeister]

I find blimps to be an essential part of the connection between the city and the ever present evil genius lair.

[@thelazarous]

17:50 just going to ignore the car that took the metro

[@OVERCHARGEDEGG]

Lmao

[@grahamturner2640]

That’s Cities Skylines pocket cars for you. The closest thing we have to that IRL is folding bicycles.

[@nekofromit]

I can think of one reason why you'd use trolleybuses instead of trams and that is if you for some reason own Sunset Harbor but don't own Snowfall

[@Styrestian]

I really like Trolleybuses cause you can force the bus to go what direction you want without having bus stops at every block. They seems to go faster than regular buses, and sound pollution is low. 😄 Taxi stands are for the taxies, not for the cims. Cims call a cab from where they are (at home, job or store) Its a great way to get around. If you have enough taxi depoes, you wil see taxies waiting at the stands.

[@Machodave2020]

You can download specific buses from the workshop and you can make like a BRT system with the trolley buses too (they would suit that job). But then why make BRT if you have trams?

[@Machodave2020]

@@tapio7118 the only time BRT might be considered better is when you don't have the money or live in a mountainous area. In CS, thar doesn't matter, but in reality, trains can't really make mountain climbs without a rack and cog (because of low wheel resistance and friction). In this case, BRT does make sense because a bus (which has rubber tires on asphalt) *can* make that climb with little effort. It might have a problem in the rain and snow, but a bus can make that climb. Trains wouldn't be able to eve without rail (and with rain is worse). Now money wise, even though LRT **can be** cheaper than buses in the long run, the upfront cost is still pretty expensive (same for track and cantonary maintenance). So BRT is cheaper in that regard. So cheap infact that having trolley buses run it would actually make sense.

[@Genius_at_Work]

Real Trolleybuses indeed accelerate faster than Diesel Buses, because Electric Motors have more Torque at low RPM than Combustion Engines. That's also what makes them so good for steep Terrain. Passenger Comfort is better too, because Trolleybuses don't shift Gears, thus making Acceleration smoother.

[@dazcadden6544]

agree about the Metro Plaza, it's just stunning. Probably my favourite asset in the whole game

[@Pystro]

"I haven't really seen anyone at all use the taxi stand." That's also not how they are claimed to work. They're basically dedicated parking lots for taxis. There's nothing in the description indicating that they would function as a transfer point for pedestrians to hail a taxi from. If you want to know how popular your taxis are, check how many are left at the taxi depots and the taxi stands. I'm not sure about trams being S tier. They are quite long and can seriously get in the way of your car traffic. You have to know what to avoid when building the street grid (blocks that are just too short to hold 2 trams are the worst) and/or play with TM:PE.

[@Beastphilosophy]

Why are you making blocks that short?

[@Pystro]

@@Beastphilosophy Ummm, first ever city :P And also, sometimes I want a collector where the blocks on the left and right side are offset. Which gives you segments that are half as long as one block.

[@Chuckiele]

The trams dont get in the way of car traffic, cars get in the way of tram traffic ;)

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

buses better than trans anyways.d trams are obsolete

[@ChRW123]

@@Chuckiele That is a huge issue IRL. Trams are often late because some stupid driver parked on a tram lane.

[@tropicalpnch4549]

I'd just move the cable cars up a tier. People seem to love them, their stations are small and don't produce a lot of noise pollution, and their cable connections are really flexible with placement. I wish taxi got more usage by the citizens because they do look neat on the road.

[@lasombra120680]

Ferry transport is very map centric like you mentioned. In the right map, you can do some great things with them.

[@ludia1914]

Your city looks so amazing and realistic, it's a pleasure for the eye. I've stopped playing this game as I lack the imagination to build cities even a fraction as good looking as this one.

[@OVERCHARGEDEGG]

Thank you! Took a while to find a way I enjoy playing 😌

[@leroy0151]

Those tabs crack me up XD

[@pjblack9290]

Came to the comments for this. Doesn't look like many people noticed though haha

[@achillesa5894]

Now I must know if eggs float lol

[@pogodziej]

I believe trolley buses would an interesting option if they stored 35 or 40 people. That way you have to struggle with the special dedicated roads with cables and I guess a slight increase in upkeep costs but in return you get some slightly bigger capacity. And since there is nothing in between buses and trams in regard to capacity.

[@pogodziej]

Update: We have bendy buses and double-decker buses now, so... xD

[@ovaaaaaL]

Used to ignore monorail because in real life it dosent really make sense compared to a metro, but in cities skylines for some reason, only monorails can have a track above roads, so now I love using them. But I still can't understand why we can't have metro tracks viaducts running over road. From where I live, almost all of our metro tracks are elevated above roads but yeah anyways, cycling paths are the best.

[@daniellxnder]

In my 70-80k population city, I need around 10 taxi depots for the taxis to actually wait in the stands (which means they don't have customers at the moment) The thing is, they still operate at a loss and also contribute to '1 car for 1 cim' problem so yea it's a no for me either

[@WendyMangels-uv9lo]

I like using monorails at my airports. They look realistic there and you don’t have to worry about bringing buses through the complicated road network at an airport

[@OVERCHARGEDEGG]

Great idea!

[@pyrrhicpenguin]

I enjoyed it. Good desicions and nice easy format. Just want to say the clips used from palaven were a good idea and brought back memories of you creating them. PS my wife was being nosey and READ your tabs 🤣

[@KEIO-qd1zx]

It's interesting that you've put monorails on A-tier. I personally like them too but I've found out that they're quite difficult to implement in your city. They look cool and transport a good amount of people, but the stations are really noisy, and it's bad to look at the cars making 90° turns across the city. The real downside for me was that at the end they were too expensive to use, even with a big amount of passengers. If I could break even with busses during rush hour (even with regional busses connecting small towns), the monorail was at constant loss. The good news is, is that I replaced the network with trams, and then expanded the whole network, making even long-distance tram lines connecting distant suburbs with the city.

[@soapymargherita]

I always have public-transit-choice-paralysis and never really end up using anything but metro and ferries, but hearing you talk about them has given me some ideas about different ways to use them so I might be more creative in my next city. I'm still not really clear why you would choose trains, metro, or monorail over either of the others. Other than metro being underground so it saves space. Just aesthetics?

[@OVERCHARGEDEGG]

Glad it could help! I guess they all work around each other. Most of my cities always include variations of these 3 working closley together. My last series, Palaven, its downtown was made up of monorail circuits and metro loops with trams laced in between. The capacity of passengers moved is nice :)

[@the_titan_atlas]

Love this ranking video, mate! Very interesting opinion about the airports and the lack of internal connectivity, but honestly that's the most realistic way for an airport to work. Sure, a lot of major cities have multiple airports, but you don't have planes flying between these airports within one city. Aeroplanes are definitely an inter-city transport method rather than intra-city. You don't have planes flying between London Heathrow and Gatwick, for example. :) We have helicopters for intra-city air travel, so I'd be more than happy for airports to remain purely an inter-city transport method in CS2. Great to hear your opinion of it, though!

[@OVERCHARGEDEGG]

A valid point! Although I think I'm hoping for more of a "Country" level scale for Cities 2, instead of just one city. So perhaps having multiple airports across a small country would allow that idea to come into play more? I.E short flights from Glasgow to London ;) Thanks matey

[@the_titan_atlas]

Love this idea! London to Glasgow vibes indeed, I can get on board with that. ;) I really hope they're ambitious with Cities 2!

[@mecraft1323]

I have busses, subways, and a tram circling the city for my people to use. When I first added all of it, people weren't using them very much, but as the city as grown they have. The busses carry people around their area to far off places like the industrial zone, subways carry people within the city to major hubs, and my trams make stops all around the outskirts of the city with the exception of one line that cuts straight through. And I do have one train that carries people from the main city (Chattanooga) to another small city (Pittsburgh). Only ways there are road or train. I'm still refining everything.

[@dracosummoner]

Very well stated arguments, and I absolutely agree that After Dark is worth buying even for cycling roads alone. Also I like your Mass Effect city names, especially "Noveria" for a snow map.

[@softwaremediaguru]

1. Blimps looks good in the sky because of that Fantasy feels, but it is a bad and slow transportation method. people in the cities like using them tho. 2. You can stuck ferries together with multiple stops. very nice transport between islands. 3. I don't limit using cable cars on mountains. I use them mostly on Island hoping. you should try it, it's nice to have a bunch of cable cars connecting different islands 😁

[@jockeril]

I loved the video and agree with most of what you say, I'd just want to add that blimps have more usage as a tourist transport and attraction and same can be said for ferries. Actually most of what you placed below B tier can be explained as such - every transport method has it's better and worse uses and the smart move id's to utilise them as best as possible

[@Spido68_the_spectator]

Ban bikes on sidewalks is one of the stupidest policies. NEVER turn it on !

[@cm01]

If you have lots of pedestrian traffic on your sidewalks and bike lanes on your roads it would make sense, but that's never gonna happen outside of maybe a university campus

[@grischu8277]

Trams absolute GOATs. I Use Trams as the basic mode of transport for small distance journeys, mostly coupled with metro for medium and train for large sized distances.

[@fattyMcGee97]

Don’t bash snow maps. I just love how cozy you can make places feel next to the snowy wastelands. It’s got a nice aesthetic of its own

[@An_Economist_Plays]

Interesting arguments... and while one can discuss vanilla v modded implementations, I have yet to see anything for blimps that makes them any better.

[@tehshingen]

Aside from the Good Year blimp, I haven’t seen a blimp… probably ever, in person. Closest I seen in person aside from Good Year is a hot air balloon with the real estate company “Remax” on the balloon, which is a reference to their general company marketing identity. There’s one they fly around parts of town here. I would find it incredibly cool to have the chance to take a blimp somewhere though!

[@tehshingen]

In terms of a cities skylines use, I would call it more a “sky tour bus” kind of arrangement. Something that people could take for fun, but a terrible idea to use for a primary public transportation plan. I live in the middle of Canada and we mostly don’t use British style double decker buses, but we do have a few tour buses that use them.

[@coldfanta4963]

I agree. It'd be better if the game treated it as a tourist attraction rather than public transit. That way, there wouldn't be a conga line of blimps throughout the city. On that note, I wouldn't mind seeing hot air balloons either! Edit: Somehow I completely forgot they're in the game

[@richardcowling7381]

Love the way you comment on the jank vanilla junctions as " nothing that can't be changed ". Trouble is, when you're on console, those junctions can be outside of whete you can fully reach with only 9 tiles! Oh, how I wish that we had access to 12 or 15.

[@hesterclapp9717]

0:51 They operate Zeppelin NT airships I think commercially in Friedrichshafen, Germany. That's it.

[@scottriess7326]

Great video! I would add that, for me, a criteria in any ranking is how onerous it is to place the system assets. Trams have a large depot that takes up space but the trams themselves don't require special stations, as opposed to other transport options. Ferries, on the other hand, are annoying to place because placing anything on a coast is weirdly too high above the water level AND it has a built in road that cannot be changed (frustrating!).

[@DarkFaceless]

For me it looks so: S - Bicycle lanes and paths, Bus, Tram, Trolley Buses (but it requires assets of roads from workshop, like trolley bus road with trees, bike lanes, etc, and combined tram-trolley roads + network anarchy), Metro A - Intercity Buses, Airport, Cruise Ship, Train B - Ferry, Monorail C - Cable Car, Taxi (taxi stands are almost useless for me, but taxi like public transport brings more realism in game) D - Blimps (but now I'll try to boost education with it's policy, tnx for the advise), Helicopter I love public transport. I hope, if Cities Skylines 2 will be released, we could place tram rails and trolley wires on any road, like in Cities in Motion 2.

[@mikecrawley7739]

Absolutely love the video. I just found you on the 5B1C playlist. Absolutely falling in love with your content. Incredibly helpful for my cities.

[@jonaskingofsparta]

In my mind, the got-to option for local loops are buses (best no-DLC option), trams and bicycles, where as the go-to for backbone high capacity infrastructure is Metro, Monorail or... trams. I don't think trams are the absolute best option in either case, but they provide such a nice balance between buses' "who needs supporting infrastructure" vibe and the raw capacity of a backbone metro network. If I had to restrict myself to one type of transport it'd probs be trams (ok, maybe metro). Monorails... I almost see them as a "what if metros were balanced". They are cool looking but the fact metro systems require minimal amounts of overground space makes it often hard to justify a monorail over them. But they have their place.

[@rd9102]

Another informative great video, something i have been thinking about in my new build so i can know what has the most bang for the buck to build out.

[@OVERCHARGEDEGG]

Thanks bro

[@JETZcorp]

Not having watched the video yet, I'm just going to say trams are my favorite. I use different size trams depending on demand; from 40 to 125 passenger. The only cases where I don't use trams is when a line needs over 700 passengers a week capacity, or when I need something even smaller than a bus. For the larger cases, I bump up to an elevated metro. For the smaller cases, I use 12-passenger Ford Transit vans. Everything in between is trams. I had horrific traffic problems in my city, and buses just made it worse, even with dedicated lanes. When I laid the first couple tram lines, the problem was instantly solved. I've loved them ever since. I have one metro line that I almost ran out of capacity on. I'm using CTA trains where the 8-car set carries 720 passengers, so maxing that out took some doing. Really wasn't sure what to do about that since I couldn't really think of anything that would have more capacity than one of those trains showing up every 30 seconds. However a 2nd parallel metro line took some pressure off and solved the problem. Turns out the answer was "moar". If I was dealing with the stock-size trains, I'd need a metro line every 4 blocks. My city really is unreasonably dense, thanks in large part to the trams completely replacing all the cars!

[@rahill-95]

Definitely, I enjoy watching content like this!! Edit: Great video as always and looking forward to watch more videos like this in the near future. ☺️

[@OVERCHARGEDEGG]

Glad to hear bro

[@TazarZero]

I have a Blimp route that takes cims from a busy spot in the city to a camping ground up on a hill. Their other option is a long windy road that zig-zags up the side of it. The Blimp seems to make the trip in a shorter time than a Cable car would that is closer to the base of the hill. It's a guilty pleasure more than anything, but in this case, it does seem to have its benefits.

[@kom-hu7kn]

trolley busses have a bi-articulated vehicle option which normal busses don't have and they also have generally higher capacity vehicle options

[@zacharyesparza6263]

I use Taxis in my game and I get 80 people a week using them, with about 37,000 population. You just need a lot of taxis to meet demand. I have about 125 taxis just roaming around my city. It does make traffic a little bit worse than usual, but mixing that with other forms of public transportation, you can get a lot more cars off the road.

[@vincemorgan9640]

I thought helicopters were pretty worthless too at first. However, on larger maps moving people from remote locations to and from the airport is quite effective I found. Although they only carry 20 passengers they are considerably faster than all, or at least most, other forms of transport so they do actually move a greater volume than I expected.

[@kashimokid]

That was great! Tiered commercial would be nice

[@sijiroy5535]

Definitely

[@Josh-rf9qy]

I'd recommend using the advanced vehicle settings mod (I think that's what it's called) to let ferries carry more people (as well as any other vehicle).

[@Catratio]

A+ list, I can't disagree with anything, though from a functionality standpoint helicopters to me are equal to blimps. Helicopters look way cooler and I wish I could use them, but I always get 5,000 sims queuing up for a ride that only seats 20, making them fairly ineffective. The new addition of more vanilla streetcar models was the best thing for this game, absolutely love using them. I live near Portland, OR where we have a "cable car" (though here I hear it called a sky car, or ironically, tram) and it is used to take people across the interstate from one part of a hospital to another. Great video.

[@Maxime_K-G]

4:31 I wish the developers would've set the prices of certain modes realistically so it wouldn't cause so many cims to wait forever for them. Have you ever seen 100+ people at a helicopter platform or wait over a week to board? That alone is a reason to avoid low-capacity modes.

[@dalton-at-work]

"industrial Transport" is usually called "Logistics"

[@ninipanini966]

In my opinion, I use metros to transport people everywhere, usually between suburbs and city centers and it works so nicely. I love seeing the metro rather than a train because it just looks more satisfying, more clean, it fits in so well.

[@LetustheDragon]

I do agree with your list. Though, personally, I love the monorails and trams. More specifically, I like the suspended monorails, but that is unfortunately a mod. Busses....I dislike. Not because they're bad, but because 30 people? If maybe they had 60 or so, I'd be more inclined to use them than running tram roads all over the place....though I'd do that anyways because I just like trams v: And yeah Blimps...the capacity and speed is just...ugh. Though they do look nice if you do the Island Hopping scenario map...but I wound up just monorailing to all the islands anyways.

[@roqsteady5290]

You can get buses with higher capacity on the workshop.

[@RailRide]

Quite possibly the first mod I added to my install of C:S were articulated buses modeled on those used in New York City, because the stock buses had such laughably small capacity, even for a city that at the time had only about 11,000 cims.

[@MephistoDerPudel]

All the PT-numbers are off. A normal bus can take 80-90 passengers, an articulated bus adds another 30 and trams don't even start there, often having a capacity of more then 200 people ...

[@iguiste23]

Making Funiculars can be really fun up the side or middle of narrow but steep avenues in tightly built residential areas. Or a Funicular up the side of a mountain or hill leading to a hilltop camping site or national park.

[@nobody15470]

I remember some times ago I had a friend who had the snowfall dlc and he shared his steam Library with me and i over loaded the citi with trams Non stop using them even using them in the roundabouts and that was mine main public transport for the entire citi not a single bus not anything else just pure trams, and when i finally bought my cities I was sad bec of no trams then bought mass transit and snowfall(just for the trams) and now my cities are full of trams and monorail and i absolutely love how my citi looks and works with them (even ading some mods to the mix) and yeah I agree with your ranking PS great content

[@daffodil2067]

Not commenting on trolley buses in game. Irl, they usually have a battery of some sort (chemical, capacitor, flywheel) that allows them to run off line for some distance. Comparing trolley w/o batteries, diesel and battery-ev, Initial vehicle cost: battery>diesel>trolley Total operating cost per mile: diesel>battery>trolley Uptime: trolley>diesel>battery Trolley buses with batteries will be somewhere in between battery-ev and battery-less trolley for initial cost and total operating cost per mile, but as long as they don't spend too much time off line they'll have the same nearly 24/7 uptime as battery-less trolleys, and the operational savings can be used to buy more trolley buses, and expand coverage and the coverage increases the need to run off line decreases and the batteries needed get smaller and cheaper.

[@Floris_VI]

Bicycle paths are an S tier overpowered public transport irl too so it makes sense

[@cadethomas5686]

If you have a tram asset that has higher capacity, a mod that allows elevated stops, a mod that has an asset for getting up to this stops, and the traffic mod that allows you to control speeds, the tram becomes the best mode of transit.

[@PyroMancer2k]

LOL the pocket cyclist. It's funny to see all the people pour out of the Metro station and then jump on their bikes.

[@Am_Yeff]

I like how trams are amazing both in game and irl but everyone i see misses out on them

[@jasonelbert2729]

I know im a bit late in saying this. But with the airport dlc. You can bring people in qnd out and even manage your own airline

[@wisemango]

1:35 "Next up, im also gonna place *taxes* in D tier as well which could potentially be controverisal" - Overcharged Egg 2021

[@Manas-co8wl]

I really like the idea of blimps actually. I'd definitely ride one if given the chance, unfortunately I'm not even sure I saw one irl.

[@GaryCameron780]

Trams are the only reason I have Snowfall DLC. Thanks to your video I want to check out cycing

[@goatgamer001]

What I don't like about trams is 1.that they cannot merge with metros or railways to be able to stop at their platforms to have convenient transfer as well as having trains from the edge of the city pass through to the tram. 2. Trams are three times as long as buses, and they block traffic. I put trams in one of my first cities and it destroyed traffic flow. 3. Trams in cities skylines ( not ii) cannot reverse at stops unlike some real life trams ( some actually cannot reverse, but some others like Athens and i think London can) and therefore they either don't have a terminus or to they have a loop at the end at each end. Bonus: there used to be just TWO different kinds of double tram tracks with a road, and one without a road, and one one-way tram track counterpart of each. This resulted in tram stops blocking traffic in the two lane road and the four lane road not fitting everywhere so i widen the road where i want to put stops. However this is fixed with the transportation hubs update as there are more roads and some hubs that have tram tracks. Also there aren't zebra passings in the tram-only roads so cims have to either cross through a car road section or a path to take the tram to the other direction. The exception is pedestrian areas, where the tracks have a lot of space and i think that cims can cross easily. Trams work very well in pedestrian areas even though i haven't tried putting the tram/pedestrian road.

[@kevinkorenke3569]

This is a great video! Monorails, trams, and Metro are my favorite way to move lots of people and seeing somebody creatively doing it was a great inspiration.

[@OVERCHARGEDEGG]

Thank you mate!

[@jamieknight326]

I really enjoyed this video. It helping me to think about the transportation layering within my cities. I hope future versions of the game can automate some of the bus route creation. Perhaps automatically linking together schools and industry areas etc. I have a motor impairment which limits my fine mouse movements and fiddly bus line creation tools can be a big barrier for me. Thanks again for a fab video!

[@miche13curry]

It's amazing how the views can/do change once you add mods. For example once you add in advanced vehicle options or alternate assets, ferries can be super useful with proper capacity. And harbours higher again with more appropriate capacity (especially when you have optimized outside capacities so you don't get a ton of empty). Agree with bikes, metro, and tram as being 100% superior though!

[@CrabbyGameGuy]

Cool idea for a series. I'd love to see you rank Unique Building Assets at some point.

[@OVERCHARGEDEGG]

I was thinking Uniques! Would be a long ass list though haha

[@jonassvedstrup3558]

@@OVERCHARGEDEGG you could just rank your favourite uniques, and say that those not mentioned is all rated D.

[@CrabbyGameGuy]

@@OVERCHARGEDEGG It would be advantageous to know the advantages and pitfalls of some of the Uniques. Some bring is lots of tourism but can also create significant traffic issues, etc. That information would come in handy.

[@AG7-MTM]

I hope Cable Cars are brought back for CS2, especially since they could cross that game's widest seaways (trains and subways can't even cross the narrow ones)

[@scifigamin5236]

trams trains and bus are just the top of the line i got with trams more tho

[@peger]

Blimps floating in the sky over the city look preaty cool tbh.

[@rataflechera]

A mod that doesn't change game mechanics except for an early unlock of trains would make a lot of sense. For a historical and city planning perspective it doesn't make much sense that metros are unlocked before trains. Furthermore a railroad is a very nice backbone to plan a city. Better than a highway in my perspective.

[@TheLoneTerran]

Thanks for making this with little to no mods. I rarely use any mods, other than the North American signs and emergency vehicle sirens. IMO, mods remove too much difficulty and the game starts to feel like a city painter than a city management game. But that's the beauty of mods, I can dislike them and others can live by them and our desires for the game don't have to clash, just mod it!

[@mariebcfhs9491]

We have water bus service in our city and a single boat holds 700 people, yeah boats are huge let alone ships.

[@Fabiable]

Where i live in Austria we use Blimps, but not for Transport more for Leisure and Entertainment

[@lordvanazir1007]

1:54 as someone who works on a tiny river tours boat, my boat would be not even a quarter of the size of that ferry and we are licenced to up to 121 passengers and 3 crew so yea that number triggers me XD

[@TheNolimitcity]

I think the blimps are just a nod to OG Simcity. I don't recall using them, but I seem to recall seeing blimps occasionally come across the city. I do wish the terminals were smaller and the capacity was larger to make them a functional form of transportation.

[@homfri111]

Taxis are for the aesthetic of the actual cars being around for me, helicopters i mod into chinooks with 95 capacity. Looks weird having fleets of military heli's flying around, but just manually hit the city with a yearly tsunami and just pretend they're national guard relief response along side all the yellow Mi-8's.

[@kanojune5754]

Ohh I like these type of content (public transport). However I am a fan of Trains over other railroads-type modes of transport (Trams, Monos, Metros). Looking at the trains in the workshop, the models looks veryy nice and detailed, but I always failed to make an effective connection tho lol. I mainly use them elevated or on ground (not a fan of underground, only 1 lines in my country have that 😢, hencewhy I prefer trains over metros). I also use Trams as LRV/LRT with separated right-of-way.... Which hinders its maximum potential lmao. Again, I've never seen streetcars (all of them got dismantled when my country got independence), but the government have built two elevated LRV and three ground level railbus service that maybe similar to trams in EU 😅.

[@RynoNevermore88]

Maybe cims can wait at taxi stands as well, I don’t know, but I do know that taxis not in use will go there. Most of the time they’re in use though, it’s rare to see a taxi utilizing one.

[@e1123581321345589144]

Blimps are useful if you go for a scy-fy feel to your city, and this is because there are blimp assets on the workshop that literally look like spaceships and can carry up to 300 people I guess. some of them also have a higher speed limit, but I don't think the network can handle it. One downside with this is that if you get your blimp network crossing over ship paths you blimps will wait for the ships and vice versa. I don't know what the reason for that is, but they treat it like an intersection, which is a little bit annoying. btw, you forgot to mention the space elevator ;) that one is actually the best way to get tourists into the city, by far

[@EarthenDam]

Helicopters and Blimps land and take off so slow for the amount of people waiting, I get hundreds of people in line and never catch up.

[@alanphilpott5212]

This was decent for a newbie , helps alot. Cheers Manc egg.

[@OVERCHARGEDEGG]

No worries lad

[@vikenemma2953]

I made a successful blimp line with full seats. I don't know why the peeps are taking it but hey at least there are people taking it.

[@scartha4040]

I live in Melbourne Australia. We have trams trains and buses. And trams are very important to Melbourne. Have a look at how many tram lines there are

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

Not only are taxis not very useful, but they don’t do any better than people just getting in a car anyway, which is one of the biggest benefits of public transit, getting people off of the road

[@James-xx7yt]

Trolley buses definitely feel like they'd fair much better with C:S2's replace tool than requiring a static road type as in C:S1. (There was only two trolley bus variations of 2015 base game roads when Sunset Harbour launched!!!) I have a framed printout of a map of my city's (sadly dismantled) inner suburb tram network and the first time I saw this map I was suprised to see trolley bus lines spiking off of the tram network. I'm not sure how realistic it'd be but I feel like C:S1's trolley buses would be much more useful if they could utilize your tram wire networks and the monthly cost savings of the trolley bus depots compared to the vanilla bus depots was more than the mere ₡60 cheaper per month they are in game. I feel like fueling & maintenance of bus-sized internal combustion engines VS electric motors with much fewer moving parts is the trolley buses main draw and that isn't really apparent in game. Again C:S2's vehicle maintenance feature lends itself to a much more useable & meaningful implementation of trolleybuses. Even more so when you consider the modular upgrades to service buildings in C:S2 could allow for the implementation of an upgrade to trolleybuses so they have a small battery so they could leave the wires for a set number of road segments, as some trolleybuses IRL can. It's confirmed we can upgrade the default bus depot to have electric battery buses, so if they ever add trolleybuses to C:S2 I hope they balance it so the electric battery buses are more expensive per vehicle but don't require the capital cost of a wire network.

[@thuggie1]

i do use blimps if i want that cyber punk look also they are pretty nice looking going over large bodies of water personally i thin they could hold mor the same with ferries

[@jedipotater1388]

If you could have a monorail station on a 2 lane road, I would see them as a better option. Even if it had to go down to one track

[@TAP7a]

I'm down here looking for that sweet sweet blimp journalism

[@Sembel-xh9vq]

Disaster DLC makes this pretty fun

[@germanopolito5294]

Ferry are very useful (in real life), i live within the strait of Messina, and when i need to go to sicily i must use the ferry, there ain’t any bridge

[@nelaina]

I really appreciate this series, and I just want to say that I literally laugh like crazy when you talk about the blimps as transportation. 🤣 I'm a beginner in CS, but are helicopters and cable cars actually methods of accessible PT IRL? Outside of the US? The only time I've seen helicopters used was literally as purposed entertainment 'rides'. ( Or for very wealthy)... Holding maybe 3 or 4 people and very expensive. I've never ever seen cable cars outside of ski resorts, so to me those two seem very out of place as far as transport goes. Ferrys are very common where I'm from.

[@erikharaldsson2416]

I have never heard of helicopters being a real option, but cable cars are used in a few places, the most extensive network is probably in La Paz, Bolivia.

[@killslayer1526]

I must say, I was caught looking at your tabs.

[@SteezeShop]

I hope people realize bikes are an S tier mode of transport in real life too. I wish bicycle infrastructure was more common in more cities because the advantages to commuting on a bike are almost endless.

[@MadHarlequin06]

Thus was great! I'd definitely watch more of these ranking videos.

[@szam21]

Great video. Agree with all the rankings except of the mono rails, they are not as OP as Trams and Metro imo

[@MephistoDerPudel]

The fact, that they have to run above ground and also conflict with other elevated infrastructure is really making them unviable for a lot of cases. Also, the over the road asset with its way to many crosswalks has done terrible things to traffic ...