King or Jokester? [Shock Value Ep.5]

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Overland Outfitters

Overland Outfitters

Жыл бұрын

We tested FIVE different suspension setups without knowing which setup we were driving, all on the same exact truck, in the same terrain. We wanted to know what setup was the best with NO biases. We were very surprised by the results!
Fox, King, Elka, Bilstein and Icon were all tested in this full review series shoot out.
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@TheThrill44
@TheThrill44 Жыл бұрын
Can we have a follow up video explaining why you would or wouldn't purchase each shock? Which you felt was best on road, which was best off-road, etc? Thanks!
@markparent3323
@markparent3323 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys for doing a real world blind head to head comparison. This is the unbiased content I am always hoping to find so I can get educated on the next product I spend my hard earned money on. You guys rock! M.
@BrandonBrooke453
@BrandonBrooke453 Жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for doing these series! I have learned lots of new things!! Please do more of these kinds of series
@fouUili684
@fouUili684 Жыл бұрын
As an owner of king shocks on my 15 tundra for 5 years with no sway bar, I’m proud of them and they are worth money. I might invest in those bilsteins as a second set for when my kings need rebuilding. Thank you for doing this.
@orionisfor7782
@orionisfor7782 Жыл бұрын
I actually learned the time these videos were released by the end of the series. Really cool series and a service to all the Tacoma owners out there. Reasonable to remember that a few things (custom valving, rear crossbar and hangers) probably make a huge difference. Adding more variables would also make a near impossible test setup. Thanks for this series it was really cool.
@Yotapuga
@Yotapuga Жыл бұрын
Yea hangers make a HUGE difference
@Poxyquotl
@Poxyquotl Жыл бұрын
I mean,, can't you adjust the stiffness of the suspension on most of these? Curious as to have they all would preform if they were really 'dialed in' for the best comparison.
@Yotapuga
@Yotapuga Жыл бұрын
@@Poxyquotl looks like they got the non adjustable 2.5 shocks to make it a better comparison of all of them straight from the manufacturer
@MrPiimpslap
@MrPiimpslap Жыл бұрын
​​@@Poxyquotl They mentioned in the first video that 99% of shock buyers will never tune them, so they wanted to compare out of the box performance.
@Poxyquotl
@Poxyquotl Жыл бұрын
@@MrPiimpslap shame you would spend 3k on a suspension and then not take advantage of its features
@freedomtyler8925
@freedomtyler8925 Жыл бұрын
This is the best video series I’ve ever watched very informative
@zacharyhainline6220
@zacharyhainline6220 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see another entry in the series with the OME BP-51s. Not sure how that could be done blind but it's also a strong suspension contender.
@ADanNeedsAName
@ADanNeedsAName Жыл бұрын
I was wishing they included these as well.
@AlexM-np1cx
@AlexM-np1cx Жыл бұрын
They aren’t true 2.5” shocks
@lukekelly2590
@lukekelly2590 Жыл бұрын
​@@AlexM-np1cxThat's the propoganda certain manufacturers like to tell you. Are you aware that Fox 2.5 and King 2.5 use different piston sizes? Piston size is why they say the BP-51 isn't a true 2.5 There are 2 factors. 1. Surface area for heat to dissipate. This is essentially the external dimensions of the shock. Which BP-51 qualifies as 2.5. 2. Valve area to provide damping. Once you move past the primitive King and Fox 2.5 coilovers designs like the rest of the world has, you realise that there is more damping available than just on the main piston. In the case of the BP-51 this is through the internal bypass valves and also through the compression adjuster mechanism valves. So you take the 51mm piston (which is much larger than a Fox 2.0 piston) valve area, and add the bypass valves area and add the adjuster mechanism valves area.
@youngjet63
@youngjet63 8 ай бұрын
BPs suck from what I’ve read. Not worth comparing from what I’ve been reading…
@TacoBruso
@TacoBruso Жыл бұрын
this series was excellent, thank you for putting it together. I would love to see another episode where you wrap it all together. I have bought from Overland Outfitters in the past and love their service. I'm actually considering changing my shocks and would appreciate seeing final conclusions or recommendations. Either way great series.
@Mike-kr9ys
@Mike-kr9ys Жыл бұрын
Good test, well done. Thanks for doing this.
@DADVNTRS
@DADVNTRS Жыл бұрын
Awesome series, was on edge if my seat each day waiting for these!
@victorbarraza6005
@victorbarraza6005 Жыл бұрын
Great video series, guys! So much useful info, especially to those are in the market for shocks. Keep them coming! Maybe do a series comparing 2” shocks/entry level?
@artofwar1776
@artofwar1776 Жыл бұрын
Such a great test series! Thank you!
@nickeisenbarth2011
@nickeisenbarth2011 Жыл бұрын
More of these test. Please. Loved this
@ytrabbithole6893
@ytrabbithole6893 Жыл бұрын
Great series, like others have said it would be cool to compare the entry level shocks as well: 5100s, 6112, fox 2.0 etc and perhaps throw in a 2.5” shock to demonstrate how much of an upgrade from an entry level shock it is. Also not entry level at all, but curious how the OME BP51s would have compared in this.
@silentshredr
@silentshredr Жыл бұрын
Agree! This is where the majority of owners are
@spencerwarholik2904
@spencerwarholik2904 Жыл бұрын
Also curious about how the 6112 compares to some of the other close in price options.
@perchowski3021
@perchowski3021 Жыл бұрын
The shocks I've been waiting for to review!
@DBCoffroad
@DBCoffroad Жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome. Thank you for doing this!
@roadrunneradventuresmx3053
@roadrunneradventuresmx3053 Жыл бұрын
Great series good job guys!
@JPWineberg
@JPWineberg Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a list of best to worst knowing what you know now! Great series, can’t wait to see more!
@kuyaa93
@kuyaa93 Жыл бұрын
I actually have the same kings 2.5 set up and oh my gosh I love them coming from a Leveling kit its night n day!! difference pricy but very worth it to me 🙂
@AROD.
@AROD. Жыл бұрын
This series was bad ass !!!!
@OscarOverlanding
@OscarOverlanding Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!! This is very helpful and super smart!!! I really dig both of your channels and really appreciate your knowledge and honesty. I curious about your thoughts on the Ironman Foam Cell Pro 3.0?
@silvermonk13
@silvermonk13 Жыл бұрын
Love this video series. Just got confirmation that my Tacoma should be arriving today so I'm super excited to start modifying. Seems like I'm going to be going with the bilsteins though
@Yoman1971
@Yoman1971 Жыл бұрын
Hi all! Nice initiative on the blind testing. Do to my area of off road we do no have speed off-roading as is more of a tropical Island in the Caribbean and is more of mud and sticky clay. Like your thought on the equipment tested if any at all would work for my type of off roading. Thank you in advance. 👍🏻
@Absolute_Unit135
@Absolute_Unit135 Жыл бұрын
It would be awesome to see you guys test the Ironman 4x4 foam cell pro shocks on the 3rd gen Tacoma. Really curious to see how you guys would compare them to these first 5 brands you’ve tested
@randolphbeltz6787
@randolphbeltz6787 Жыл бұрын
Good testing. It might have been more interesting if the stock shocks were also a trial.
@Moelester692
@Moelester692 Жыл бұрын
Yeah stock shocks should of been the control or base data
@robbergstrom943
@robbergstrom943 Жыл бұрын
awesome series. subscribed.
@1augustub1
@1augustub1 Жыл бұрын
Great series, I would have liked to have seen the stock Toyota set up compared too.
@hockeymon1
@hockeymon1 Жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see the shocks torn apart now and also see a comparison of the quality of materials. Maybe a future season 2 of shock value? Locked offroad, radflo, toytec, and any others I can't think of.
@4xhoser
@4xhoser Жыл бұрын
Loved this series! 🤘🇨🇦 no Dobinson MRRs?
@lukerchabot
@lukerchabot Жыл бұрын
Great series. I would also like to see how Radflow, ADS and Bilstein 6112’s compare as well. Been hearing really good things about the ADS suspension lately.
@JD83734
@JD83734 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see how a set of deavers in the rear would help this rig after seeing the rear buck in all the videos
@erice4611
@erice4611 Жыл бұрын
You should test out the Ironman foam cell pros.
@stevenpeterson7234
@stevenpeterson7234 Жыл бұрын
Awesome videos guys!! I think I'll keep my live axle, much better all around then IFS any day!!
@freidrichnietzsche6643
@freidrichnietzsche6643 Ай бұрын
Have kings on my 16 Silverado and wish I didn’t wait so long before mounting them! Awesome kit for sure.
@nnannaokoroji8451
@nnannaokoroji8451 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for producing such an informative video. To complete this video, it will be nice to see a review of the Old Man Emu shocks. I am actually leaning toward these for truck I am planning to build and ship to Africa. Why Old Man Emu? The reliability is second to none. Second, they are built for the outback which has a similar climate to Africa. Keep Up The Good Work!
@chriswoods3271
@chriswoods3271 Жыл бұрын
Would be great if you posted a recap video comparing all of them and either in the video or the description touch on anything else done to the truck (including tire and wheel setup). Also if you posted links to the products in the descriptions
@brentthibault3467
@brentthibault3467 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got the 4 door bronco badlands with the Sasquatch package and was wondering; do you think there would be a dramatic difference upgrading from the bilstein shocks that come with the Sasquatch package?
@FDESLOSSY
@FDESLOSSY Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha let’s goooooo finally. Yes blue is better!!! If you turn the compression up you won’t have that bucking and if you tune them for the truck it feels almost like long travel.
@citizenpark2782
@citizenpark2782 9 ай бұрын
I appreciate you and this video
@effinhaoli808
@effinhaoli808 Жыл бұрын
So the front needs a good replacement UCA like SPC Adjustable for several reasons, and the rear needs a new leaf pack preferably with hammer hangers…also removing sway bar at own risk obviously helps articulation ✌🏽
@SirEmoSushi
@SirEmoSushi Жыл бұрын
Love this, more please
@user-ke3il7cm8i
@user-ke3il7cm8i Жыл бұрын
Will you guys have a recap video where you compile the comparisons and offer siggestions?
@vincefairleigh6899
@vincefairleigh6899 Жыл бұрын
I second that, I had no idea the whole time what shock they were testing… these guys might be awesome for sure but this shock competition is a huge fail for me, the king are clearly junk for leaking on just one test run, and the material is going to rust if you live in the rust belt..
@sausagegut
@sausagegut Жыл бұрын
You should do a video of a before and after a rebuild to show what a custom tuned shock should look over the high speed whoops. You can use my v8 4runner😂 I have kings 2.5 ext all around, TC upper and lower control arms and duro bumpstops
@vincefairleigh6899
@vincefairleigh6899 Жыл бұрын
I wish I knew what order they were tested, what was best?
@benlewis168
@benlewis168 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a vid with the dobinson MRR kit!
@lucasvogel8497
@lucasvogel8497 Жыл бұрын
great videos!
@PittsburghActive
@PittsburghActive Жыл бұрын
The series was great! Thanks! Sub!
@Yakplanet_tv
@Yakplanet_tv Жыл бұрын
Can you test the bilstien rear and kings front or vice versa
@mtbgeoff
@mtbgeoff Жыл бұрын
I know you said you couldn’t get icons with remote reservoirs. How would that affect the tests? Also, would adjustable dampening on any of these change the results?
@AlexM-np1cx
@AlexM-np1cx Жыл бұрын
Remote resi would mostly affect how long you can run without overheating the shocks
@njkomp
@njkomp Жыл бұрын
I am a little disappointed in the review of the bolstein 8112, and fox 2.5’s those were my top two contenders.. lol
@AlexM-np1cx
@AlexM-np1cx Жыл бұрын
They said the 8112 were one of the best ones
@fouUili684
@fouUili684 Жыл бұрын
They were the best at high speed off-road, no shock will be perfect at everything. Don’t forget you can also revalve all of them to ride better
@imperialtekk9443
@imperialtekk9443 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious what pound coil those kings have on them. I'm running 700lb coils on my kings but I also have armor and lots of it.
@NWPURSUIT
@NWPURSUIT Жыл бұрын
I asked them they said all of them had 600lb coils
@Nodotaimza
@Nodotaimza Жыл бұрын
Can we please see a video from one of you on the falcon adjustables on the jeeps please 🎉
@levitate8918
@levitate8918 Жыл бұрын
You guys should test a set of radflos!
@omalleyc068
@omalleyc068 Жыл бұрын
Will ori's be tried in the future?
@tacotrucks882
@tacotrucks882 Жыл бұрын
I want to take my 2023 TRD PRO through course, I bet she handles the best!
@max7143
@max7143 Жыл бұрын
Solid review of all the brands. Would of liked to see the BP52’s.
@OverlandOutfitters
@OverlandOutfitters Жыл бұрын
We did all the testing, then all the interviews in the shop, and then revealed all the shocks after. The magic of editing
@max7143
@max7143 Жыл бұрын
@@OverlandOutfitters oh ok, I thought you revealed the shocks after each session. I’ll edit my post. 👍🏻
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV 10 ай бұрын
What is the size of those tires?
@victorrial1890
@victorrial1890 Жыл бұрын
Is there any type of lift with those struts or stock height, and what is the wheel set up?
@justinvanbibber6234
@justinvanbibber6234 Жыл бұрын
285/70r17 KO2s over method 703
@bschuske
@bschuske 7 ай бұрын
I have Fox 2.5 resi with an add a leaf in therear. Thier sick
@jurelle
@jurelle Жыл бұрын
I'm sad at how much better Kings was off the shelf than Fox but honestly not surprised King is taking more time to add the valving the stock suspension needs (Its very King of them🥁) versus Fox just adding whatever tune they think is best. Would've been nice to see the Fox shocks with the DSC adjusters though versus the ones without like you guys ran. I loved this series so much, thank you guys!🤘
@NWPURSUIT
@NWPURSUIT Жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see the fox performance elite series
@airakklein
@airakklein Жыл бұрын
They needed a level playing field, and not all the shocks offer a high and low speed adjuster setup.
@hudsonms
@hudsonms Жыл бұрын
From the footage, looks like it needs to be dialed in a little better. Lacking some Low speed compression, and the front looks like it dives too much. Needs some rebound adjustments, maybe more in the front.
@mlb82gaming32
@mlb82gaming32 Жыл бұрын
The shocks on The table were different then the ones on the truck? So the oil they see is irrelevant?
@OverlandOutfitters
@OverlandOutfitters Жыл бұрын
The shocks on the table were the same ones we used on the truck
@vegasrider05
@vegasrider05 Жыл бұрын
Fox tuned from AccuTune!!!!! Can't beat it.
@tboe-cr8pz
@tboe-cr8pz Жыл бұрын
Yes you can, Kings tuned from accutune!
@speedegg6170
@speedegg6170 Жыл бұрын
DAMN. So if I were to buy unadjusted shocks it should be 4 or 5 (Bilsteins or Fox). A tad disappointed that the rear Fox shafts showed some oil residue after that test. If anything, maybe I should start looking at adjustable shocks. 🤔
@OverlandOutfitters
@OverlandOutfitters Жыл бұрын
Fifth test was king not fox. Test one was fox
@speedegg6170
@speedegg6170 Жыл бұрын
Whoops. I meant KING. King Shocks. Dammit, Freudian Slip I was thinking about Fox. Meant to say KING. King of Shocks. LoL.
@speedegg6170
@speedegg6170 Жыл бұрын
@@OverlandOutfitters And EXCELLENT series. Thanks for doing this.
@tbrick9344
@tbrick9344 Жыл бұрын
Which Method wheels are on that Tacoma?
@YaBoyJeezy714
@YaBoyJeezy714 Жыл бұрын
Looks like 703
@lancef5636
@lancef5636 Жыл бұрын
The last set you knew they were Kings.
@ronlewis6766
@ronlewis6766 Жыл бұрын
Only thing that might make these reviews more helpful is to include the price as tested.
@imperialtekk9443
@imperialtekk9443 Жыл бұрын
And the what pound coils each shock is has on them.
@silaslai5913
@silaslai5913 Жыл бұрын
Y didn't said test tire psi Trucks while how many lb in back What your test
@1stGenMillie
@1stGenMillie Жыл бұрын
What’s the tire and wheel specs? Ty
@justinvanbibber6234
@justinvanbibber6234 Жыл бұрын
285/70r17 KO2s on Method 703s
@bquade70
@bquade70 Жыл бұрын
Next up.... More affordable shock comparison!
@arkdave
@arkdave 9 ай бұрын
test ironmanfoamcell pro n bp51 sir
@jasonkimble8926
@jasonkimble8926 Жыл бұрын
Eibach , should be in
@frankvielma4102
@frankvielma4102 Жыл бұрын
What wheels are those?
@justinvanbibber6234
@justinvanbibber6234 Жыл бұрын
Method 703 in gloss titanium
@frankvielma4102
@frankvielma4102 Жыл бұрын
@@justinvanbibber6234 thanks
@GhettoFabulous670
@GhettoFabulous670 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Looks like I'm getting kings now. Eibachs ain't it man...
@JamesBerkey
@JamesBerkey Жыл бұрын
If I learnt anything, Get the bilseins and spend the rest on gas
@sleeks9939
@sleeks9939 Жыл бұрын
I wish they tested the Bilstein 8112 or the Dobinsion other then that this was a great series.
@sleeks9939
@sleeks9939 Жыл бұрын
@@JamesBerkey and a sway bar 😂
@JamesBerkey
@JamesBerkey Жыл бұрын
@@sleeks9939 which ones did they test in Shock Value Ep.4? the 8100's?
@javin028
@javin028 Жыл бұрын
@@sleeks9939 they did test 8112s in video 4. 8112 front, 8100 rear. The 8100 in the video is the “smooth body” version. The bypass version isn’t mentioned, but performs even better.
@elpescador4963
@elpescador4963 6 ай бұрын
Yeah yeah yeah is all I heard 🤣🤣🤣
@chrisking6695
@chrisking6695 2 ай бұрын
Funny that you’re saying Icon is better for off road than King
@OverlandOutfitters
@OverlandOutfitters 2 ай бұрын
When did we say that?!?
@jasoncostello3471
@jasoncostello3471 9 ай бұрын
Sportsbra's 🤣
@nickgood8166
@nickgood8166 8 ай бұрын
Loose the word 'ones' after 'these'!
@nastysoda9212
@nastysoda9212 Жыл бұрын
kings are outdated
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