LC250 Prado Owner 10,000km Review

[@Crustypetee]

Great honest review. You show us the good and not so good aspects of the car. That is why we keep watching and enjoying your work. You have come such a long way from the old hilux. Keep on going

[@gibbosroadtripadventures]

You guys are so genuine, really enjoyed this review. Thank you! Cheers Marg & Steve

[@johnsmith-ub7vr]

Great to see an honest, unbiased review.

[@digger1900]

Amazed at the tech that has been standard in the competition for a decade.

[@DAVOPARKES]

Good video, well thought out pros and cons. I sat in a 250 at my local Toyota dealer, sitting in it gives off strong FJ Cruiser vibes, very squared styling, but with much better seats. My FJ has the hard plastic armrest on the door too, so i bought a stick on foam pad from Bunnings.

[@brendenwaterfield973]

Great review guys. I've definitely changed my view on what it's like. Can't wait to see the finished product ❤

[@76cruiserAustralia]

I absolutely love you guys. Id say the best touring channel on KZbin. Can’t wait for your next outback adventure. I literally watch re runs hoping every day for a new video. The Canning was an amazing watch. Keep up the great work you guys are amazing 👍🇦🇺.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@76cruiserAustralia cheers mate. We are missing the bush at the moment keen to get remote again 👍🏼

[@76cruiserAustralia]

@ excellent news. Im heading into the Simpson this April, maybe we will run into you guys one day out on the tracks. If so il have a coldy in the fridge for you guys. Take care

[@OverlandTravellers]

@ sounds good to me!

[@76cruiserAustralia]

@@OverlandTravellers bloody beautiful. Nothing like a coldy in the desert 🏜️

[@fatmanoverlanding]

A well considered and balanced review. As for the price of the Altitude, I got quoted from two different dealerships, just under $102K drive-away (no more to pay) in Ningaloo Blue (NSW). Add about $800 for the towing kit and trailer wiring harness option if I wanted it. IMO, the price you quoted of $107K drive-away is a little on the expensive side. And I agree with you that the Prado is not good value for money. Second hard prices for the 300 Series GR Sport are continually coming down. I'm seriously considering a 2nd-hard of that instead of a new Prado Altitude.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@fatmanoverlanding hello thank you for the comment. Yes I agree my figures seem wrong. I did check the Toyota website and the fine print said excluding taxes, but it must actually include the LCT in the drive away price. Yes exactly right for that money there would be some very low km second hand options like the 300 GR

[@jamesrebbechi5247]

@@fatmanoverlanding Now that a very interesting proposition after having waiting in anticipation for so long What sort of money for a good GR ?

[@ChrisGillett-ed7gu]

That was a good honest review guys Only time will tell as to how reliable it will be .

[@pteamg]

Dude first time here, agree with your views, No BS cornering G force, etc..

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@pteamg cheers mate! Yeah I didn’t buy it to go fast around corners.

[@sebastianmessina31]

I have just traded my 11 yr old FJ Cruiser (which I loved) on a Fortuna Crusade after considering a Prado. The top of the range Fortuna for less than the price of the poverty pack Prado. I love the Crusade.

[@darrenprior6339]

I've got one of these things on order since Sept last year. Still no word on its arrival (Altitude model). If I'm honest I regret selling my Land Rover Discovery. It was the best car I've ever owned in my life.

[@jamesrebbechi5247]

Test drove the Altitude. Keeping my 2010 2.7 TDV6 384kms.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@darrenprior6339 once you have it mate you’ll love it

[@bbqcrew1]

Absolutely loving mine. You'll love it

[@darrenprior6339]

@ I hope you're right. The Disco was sensational. The only reason I sold it was because of depreciation risk. But thanks for your vote of confidence.

[@jerryfrench2981]

I bought a 300 but ended up keeping my old RR sport as well. The Rangie is a much nicer more refined vehicle & a pleasure to drive. The 300 Sahara is nice but a lot more agricultural.

[@jamesm6341]

Should have got the VX or more for Airconed leather seats. 300 series don’t even have digital dash. GX GXL come with very small digital dash.anyway Glad you guys are straight-to-the-point approach! No fluff, just useful info.

[@nealewilkinson-x8s]

After owning a 2021 bi turbo Everest and 180,000 k touring with a 2.5t caravan. Only problem I had was a turbo HOSE, I could have replaced it via ford, but chose to get it done immediately at an other workshop. People have different experiences, but my choice was excellent for me, In my travelling I have seen quite a few blown up prados but no everests. this is a caravan park observation

[@AJ93HD]

Great video. I have been weighing up the GX and GXL. Can get GXL in QLD discounted for 84.7K with a colour option added (including LCT). Just a bit concerned with 48v issues and implications if the rear seats were removed and a fault occurred irrespective. Seen multiple people online sharing pictures of 48v malfunction message and visit dealer.

[@The_Travelling_Cookies]

The TSC off warning notice will probably NOT be removed. I have a Toyota Fortuner has the same pop up when in low range or you long hold the TC off button, it has been out since 2015 and there is no software update to remove the warning or prevent it popping up after you cleared it.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@The_Travelling_Cookies wow thats no good. But on the other hand I’m not surprised 😂

[@secretarymrh311]

@@OverlandTravellers ...surely they can do s/w update and move it to another part of the cluster, so it doesnt block the bottom gauge ?

[@ToddBrittain1963]

My '05 1HD78 series troopy with the 1HDFTE 4.2 factory turbo cost me 30 000K eight years ago. It has done 300 000km, has towed a caravan around Australia, gets 10km/L with normal highway driving, and the oil doesn't even get dirty between changes. No issues whatsoever. Only problem is, it isn't the comfiest vehicle on the road. The question is, will this vehicle have the same sort of longevity? For that amount of money, I would expect it to.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@ToddBrittain1963 I honestly don’t think it will last as long.

[@ToddBrittain1963]

@@OverlandTravellers good luck. I hope you get a good run out of it.

[@HammerRocks]

A fair review. 👍 For the headrest issue, have you considered inserting it in reverse so it faces rearwards whenever you have your hair in a bun? My GF used to do this on her old car that had a headrest similar to yours.

[@mikevirtue4194]

Great Review. Agree overall with what you are saying. I have the 250 VX model. Love the drive and feel of this rig off and on road. Very comfortable and Feels like your typical solid Toyota. The interior layout and comfort level is next level. Love the look too. Every bloody new car is stupidly expensive in today’s world. But I would rather be driving in the Toyota than just about anything else. The new technology with emissions and safety is mandated on all vehicles so I think they’ve done a pretty good job working that into the new Prado. The back cargo area is a bit of a sh1t show, but I’ll sort that out in time. Not a deal breaker. Cheers legends 😎

[@MeiVanGrootel]

I just got my GXL two weeks ago I loved

[@markcarlile5209]

All new cars have adaptive and emergency stopping including our 2022 mux base model for 50k.

[@declancurtis6144]

Agreed, even our 15-20 year old semi trailers have had it from factory.

[@ray9880]

Enjoyed your 10000km review. In Canada we get a gas hybrid version. Great to here the pros and cons. Adaptive cruise control is a great feature. Looking forward to seeing the mods on the 250. The 60 series cruiser is a weapon.

[@howardtuohy3366]

Talking to a friend from fnq and telling me someone had the same problem as Lil and Jake. There bolt actually sheared.

[@jodifinnegan8660]

Fair review, turn the headrest around! That would drive me mad… our trucks have had adblue for over 10 years. No-one should have a problem finding adblue 👍🏻

[@Paul5er]

I have had the GXL for a month now and can’t get out of it. Amazing car and airconditioned seats in QLD is newt level. Interior is a massive step up from the 150 series and engine is way more responsive. Boot is crap though

[@adamgriss2025]

Great review. I absolutely love my 2010 Prado 150 VXL but I’m definitely not looking to get the 250 as a replacement. The new diesel LC 76 is looking more and more attractive, especially after Ronny Dahl’s recent reviews.

[@Daniel-u7x8j]

Glad you are enjoying it! That said Toyota had 15 years to get it right and the poor rear cargo area design is atrocious. On the Adblue, there will be after market shops that will disable the sensors for you, it adds nothing to performance and just costs you coin. Competition from new brands will push Toyota to improve their vehicles.

[@chrishardy6720]

Good honest likeable channel 👍🏼.. I’m looking to upgrade the comfort from a 2016 sr5.. I started with a BJ42 progressed to LN65, 90 series and a 120 over nearly 40yrs I guess I’m a rusted on fan. I’m yet to test a drive a 250 but I’m 90% sure I’ll be happy with a GX

[@Daniel-u7x8j]

Good work on the upgrade. You can get a 150 series Prado VX-two dif locks, ventilated and heated seats front and rear, console cooler box, no AdBlue, Adaptive Cruise etc

[@chrishardy6720]

@ the 150 vx are nice alright but the exterior originates from 2013. I’m liking the new 250 box shape , interior an updated safety tech, the 48v fit out definitely looks rushed which I think is only for Aus an NZ hence the design effort I suppose. Ad blue is slightly annoying but that’s going to be the norm. Id like to stretch to an Altitude for all the extras will see!

[@raybourne5781]

I call it the “Lego” car….the front reminds me of the Lego look I’m sure it’s a good car.. though we went the Everest platinum model which this time round Ford has nailed the design.

[@NeilWittig-m7v]

Great review. Well done. What size tyres did you put on it?

[@kennethprocak5176]

You would find if they were still assembled at the Japanese Lexus factory like they used to be. It would be fitted, bolted, screwed, clipped together properly.

[@PajEvo_Aus]

Great review. I really think the 48V system is going to be a problem long term but interested to see how it goes

[@viffer781]

I expected more from the new Prado. Make me glad I went with MUX - much better value for money. Mine is modded with GVM upgrade, and all the offroad kit it is still less than a Prado 250 Altitude - and yep I take my MUX to remote places. The 4JJ engine so reliable and under stressed. - but you are right, the 250 looks great

[@DrMafolo]

I quite like the MUX as well - is it as comfortable as a Prado?

[@viffer781]

​@@DrMafolo I cannot speak to the 250 but I preferred the MUX to the Prado 150 after back-to-back test drives. At the end of the day most of the vehicles people are talking about are quite good and more capable than most drivers

[@peterellemor2915]

Thanks for a great review Matt & Holly, very honest and insightful. I agree, value proposition with new Prado is questionable, Toyota are 'making hay while the sun shines' (AKA 'taking the piss') with inflating prices by $10K-ish over the previous generation. They're gouging their customers because they can.

[@ouradventerousdays]

I prefer the look of your troopy over Prado hehehe and from what you said I think our Ford is actually good value lol. There are always some features we don't like from the car but they just small stuff. New or old and convenient, my husband always get fatigue after 3hrs of driving. We have to break and swap the driver. I don't like driving a big car but the Ford is still OK for me.

[@paulminchington6111]

Nice rock on the 4th finger Holly, Congrats!!!

[@Earlscourt33]

My 150 last 20,0000km mostly outer metro and country driving at average 7.8 kml. I am a very good conservative driver, don,t break hard and coast to red lights and keep acceleration to moderate.

[@DanielKarjadi]

Altitude is 100k including the luxury car tax. In some states itll get up to 102 and while other states are 99k. I think the prado is inflated due to inflation but toyota have given you feature inclusions you did not get per model. Look at the inclusions in your GX thats almost not seen before in a toyota at a base model. And the 300 gx would feel like youre just spending money on engine and thats it as youre not getting any creature comfort or tech for more money.

[@Ranger670]

That's a great review. Thanks. I tend to hang back a bit when a new model comes out. It's only fair to expect there may be some initial bugs and the measure for me is how the manufacturer deals with the fix(es) and their customers. It's been my experience that Toyota are pretty good at these things. The HJ60 does it for me more than the new Prado! 😍

[@Timetrends-n5t]

150 1kd 2012 here and keeping, now looking for a 100 diesel. Don't see myself looking for that thing anytime soon

[@billybob1511]

Luxury car tax is included in the drive-away price, not plus?

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@billybob1511 I could be wrong but reading the fine print and looking online apparently it isn’t, but I am happy to be corrected if the info is wrong.

[@23audermars]

It’s included in driveway price in NSW

[@LIFEat110]

Great honest review

[@geofffacer1149]

A bolt drops out of a Prado suspension (Lil & Jake) collapsing the front passenger side with potentially catastrophic outcomes had it had happened at speed. Your opinion ... "You should expect teething problems with new vehicle models." My opinion ... Bolts have been widely used since the 15th century, so there's nothing new here. I suspect this either happened due to poor engineering design, the result of cost cutting, or a QA failure during production. Then again, opinions are like a$$holes. Everybody has one.

[@Timetrends-n5t]

Critical bolts should be secured

[@DrMafolo]

I thought that bolt was fitted as part of the after-market suspension.

[@nosbigr7645]

@@DrMafolo No they have not upgraded the suspension as yet. That is still planned. They only upgraded the rims and tyres. It was Toyotas bolt and that is why it has gone to Japan. Apparently, another 250 Prado has had the same bolt fail in Qld. Suspect a faulty batch of bolts or securing system.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@geofffacer1149 Hey mate, thanks for the comment. I agree we definitely down played that, I shouldn’t have lumped it into the “teething problems” thing. It could absolutely cause a serious accident. It will be interesting to see if it pops up again with someone else, then there will be a recall!

[@harleyboo6951]

With the headrest pull it out of the seat and turn it around, I'm over 6ft and find this helps.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@harleyboo6951 great tip thank you!

[@Col.B1]

Good review, keep an eye out for KAON accessories, they had heaps of great useful mods for the 150, the rear roof shelf is very very handy. As for looks, the US version with round headlights ( they get the square as well on some models ) looks better than the square, in my opinion, wont be long before they will be an aftermarket mod, they would be interchangeable.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@Col.B1 I have been watching closely what they are doing, great Aussie made products!

[@michaelnugara1]

What surprises me are the number of people on KZbin who don't do their due diligence prior to purchasing the Prado 250. Chinese vehicles aren't an option , as a touring option, due to lack of dealership networks and remote repair ability.

[@bbqcrew1]

Great review, that light in the back is annoying. My 13 year old Prado has had a tough life, still drives great with no rattles. Comparing cars, there are hidden costs in the engineering and metals etc used. The tank has copied the suspension from Hilux for a reason

[@bbqcrew1]

The fact that Toyota flew a part to Japan for testing is part of what you pay for.

[@Robbo-eh3wb]

Did you know you can simply pull the headrest out and reverse it? Then your pony tail will be fine. Try it.

[@glenwillson5073]

The Toyota tax used to be justifiable, just, due to reliability & an Australia wide dealer system in the bush. Not so much any more.

[@JohnCastellano-w3l]

Great review guys. LCT is included in the quoted prices though. GX is great value in comparison to a 70 series 😂

[@DJTrumpMAGA]

Prado GX is passenger oriented light duty 4x4. The 70LC is utilitarian heavy duty 4x4. They can’t be compared.

[@JohnCastellano-w3l]

@@DJTrumpMAGAfunnily enough we are comparing a 76 and a GX. Wild hey!

[@fishinbite]

Great 10,000km review! I can see what you are saying about value for money. What are your thoughts on a second hand 200 series 2016-2018? Whilst they are getting similar money to a 250 series GX and are already a few years old, I feel they are going to be a more solid platform with plenty of power and a vehicle which will last the test of time.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@fishinbite honestly mate, if you don’t mind the second hand aspect you can’t go wrong with a 200. They are one of my all time favorite four wheel drives

[@fishinbite]

@OverlandTravellers great to hear! Cheers

[@fishinbite]

@@OverlandTravellers oh and do you recommend any particular year range? Or is it all good

[@hubhubble]

Let me some up your review.The 250 Prado is an over priced shitbox.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@hubhubble nah, it’s a great car that’s overpriced.

[@naashuman5503]

Here in South Africa 🇿🇦 value for money between the Prado GX and LC300 3.3D GX-R I had no choice but to buy the LC300. R10 000.00 ($860.00 Australian) between the LC300 and Prado GX. Our LC300 GX-R is the equivalent spec as your Prado GX-L. In other words our LC300 GX-R is better equipped than your LC300 GX. We don't get the LC300 GX with steel wheels and plastic flooring here.

[@richardwalsh5570]

Swapped all the internal globes with Stedi led's. Reverse gokbes too. Madeca massive difference.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@richardwalsh5570 I’ll have to give that a try

[@bbqcrew1]

Did that on my old Prado. Will need to find the parts list

[@Matthew-eb9yr]

The carsales guys tested it and it broke down and got towed on day two I believe of the week long test so reliable they are not!!!!! So good luck

[@jose-antonioferreira6863]

Interesting, I am a big Toyota fan having owned a 76 Toyota Celica, 86 Toyota Supra and still have a 1989 Toyota Supra. But have never owned a 4x4 of any kind Recently I came in the market for a 4.5lt diesel 200 series Landcruiser and was hoping I could get decent one for under $60k only to find there is nearly nothing with under 200km on the clock. I see dealers call these with 210k on the clock low km???? I have upped my budget to $70k and with that I can see a few with only around 150k km on the clock so that is effectively paying $10k more for 50k less on the clock. If the current resale holds I think it is worth it given I am less likely to have issues that come up with more mileage/KM But $80k for a brand new Toyota 4x4 with warranty drive away price, which is only about $5k more if I buy used $70k Landcrusier with 150k on the clock and pay $5k stamp duty??? If not for that 750mm water crossing issue I'd be seriously considering it, even in city driving you can come across situation that maybe an issue. Are you tuned in Toyota? should be not that hard a fix

[@kennethprocak5176]

Adblue has been common on a lot of European diesels since 2010.

[@chihweiteng253]

Don't worry. Toyota Australia is going to do a tech update on the 300 series so.... Everything in the range is going to be more expensive to make the 250 Prado look cheaper. So... Done.. Toyota has solved the value for money problem.

[@zachwybrow638]

Does it fix the engine failures in the 300s😂

[@chihweiteng253]

@@zachwybrow638 Hahahaha! No... according to Toyota, that's a normal feature of 300 Series ownership 🤣

[@RallyeX]

@@zachwybrow638it will give you plenty of warnings. 😂

[@davidmilledge221]

You could spend 50 grand on the 60series and it will be like new and have all the accessories , alot cheaper and more reliable and can tow a longer van 😀

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@davidmilledge221 see I don’t know, I reckon I could spend 5 million on the 60 and it would still leak on my foot when it rains 😂

[@AndyMcBlane]

Wasn't aware normal passenger vehicles had AdBlue these days. Considering it's only around $40 for 10L, not the end of the world Also agree it does look nice :)

[@genejohnson5530]

Ad blue on bowsers for $2 per litre

[@bubbleboy468]

It ain't the Ad Blue that's the drama. It's all the drama the Ad Blue system causes over time. Limp modes. Warning and failure due to blockage etc etc etc...

[@genejohnson5530]

@bubbleboy468 i have got ad blue on a hino truck. 7 years no issues. Some manufacturers have it together and it works. You can always delete it but the vehicle won't pass the emission test.

[@MarkSmith-dk2ic]

About 2 bucks a litre at the pump.

[@yindyamarra]

This is why I wont get rid of my 2017 Pajero , I’m not wanting a Toyota , not worth it , even my cousin went for a BT 50 over one of these ,even seen heaps of SsangYong pulling vans with ease

[@robd2096]

Do you think Toyota tried to copy the look of the 2000 model Jeep Cherokee? If so I think they nailed it!

[@GenuineAussie1]

I also love the look of Elsie!!

[@warrencramer4516]

Agree, your Prado looks awesome, if only it had the 300 motor!

[@obrienmb]

How do you find the rear storage? I’ve seen a lot of negative comments.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@obrienmb great in this model, shocking in the 7 seat version

[@mark_obrien]

@@OverlandTravellers Thanks for the response. I think from what I've seen it's also elevated now above some storage boxes? How does that work? And can you easily remove the boxes if you want?

[@paulmorrall5719]

You lost me when your first "like" was "Adaptive Cruise Control", I seriously thought about the what you were used to driving if that was a highlight.

[@seanchristie7150]

Fantastic review as usual. Surely Toyota wouldn't change the price depending on what state or post code you live in😂 Value is always a subjective thing, that said really looking forward to the build n seeing how you make it work for you

[@Stevegrande1]

100% Toyota change the price depending on state. You will pay more over in WA compared to say NSW.

[@flynndai7490]

If you flip the head rest around, it should work with your hair buns! Different car, but same idea. But only good if you’re driving for long range, small trips aren’t worth the trouble I guess

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@flynndai7490 that’s a great tip we will give it a try

[@BACK2BOOGIN]

A big part of your argument was based on LCT being on top of the drive away price but thats already built into the drive away cost so for your altitude example you literally added $7k which is pretty significant. pretty basic stuff here guys.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@BACK2BOOGIN yeah I was wrong there. I did read the fine print and it says it doesn’t include tax so I based it off that. But the point still stands. Just over 100 for that car is a lot considering you could get a GX and modify it with the leftover and it would be far more capable and still have the same engine and driveline.

[@BACK2BOOGIN]

@ I agree the price seems pretty wild for the 250’s and pretty much every other car these days. Depending on needs 300 gx is a great option for sure but I think why the 250 Has been popular is for say 93k you can get a vx, lots of good finishes and tech and if you don’t need all that extra power and tow capability your sitting pretty compared to say a 300 gxl or Sahara

[@southernsandgroper3423]

Many new 4WDs on market have adaptive cruise control - that’s not unique to the Prado. The shape reminds me of the MQ Patrol - it’s a box, but all manufacturers are going that way these days. As they say, never buy the first of a series - I just thought Toyota could have been consistent and done a better production. The issue of water wading depth breaking the 48V system is a deal breaker for me. Looking elsewhere.

[@SimonBush-e2h]

Your facts are wrong. LCT included in driveway prices. My GXL was $86k

[@steveharris5097]

Hey guys luv ya stuff. But. I do t know where you get your figures from. I ordered a 250 prado altitude and my luxury tax was $3700 not the $7000 you quoted. Can you explain please.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@steveharris5097 I did it through the luxury car tax website calculator, but I’m happy to be wrong. As far as I could tell on Toyotas fine print it didn’t include LCT? Cheers

[@steveharris5097]

Thanks mate.i am going off my invoice but I haven’t taken delivery of the car yet and it may change. We will see. Just one other comment I’d like to make. When I decided on the altitude it was because I only wanted a 5 seater. I know it’s expensive but when I bought my 200 series I bought the GX and then spent $50000 on it to make it more comfortable and capable. So this time I just went for the top spec with everything on it. I’m not going to modify this one just drive it as it is. Keep up the good videos. I enjoy them.

[@davefembock7545]

Hey guys, great vid. But wrong on price of Altitude. Its 101k drive away inc LCT, not $107k, big difference…

[@barron204]

Looks good in white.

[@cwgolfandtravel]

Great video. Toyota tax! Unfortunately the 250 Prado is overpriced, overweight and ridiculously slow. The Everest is heads and shoulders above it in terms of performance, tech and price and with the V6 its a slam dunk.

[@haygee2845]

Tech is miles above the Everest but the rest probably right

[@pantoqwerty]

Problem with Ford is the Australian branch has a reputation for hanging owners out to dry on warranty issues.

[@rsii83]

​@pantoqwerty my friend who lives in USA many years has advised me stay away from America car.

[@christopher54179]

Unreliable engine wet belt issues

[@rodneym5868]

@@pantoqwerty 100% correct!

[@Paulrd1945]

Check your info,all of the prices you quote already have luxury tax,it's not drive away plus luxury.altitude is just over 100 drive away

[@brentonl2631]

Luxury Car Tax on a non Luxury car. Yeh Nah.

[@Stephcott2523]

Just bought a GXL for $88000 driveaway which includes $848 LCT.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@Stephcott2523 nice that’s a good deal! Don’t get me wrong I said a few things in the video but I think that will be a great car!

[@mckenji4real835]

"Best looking car", thats too big of a statement. I'd love to drive a Prado any day of the week but nothing beats that Jeep Grill.

[@gavinthomas630]

With regards to the value proposition, you pretty much just explained every Toyota for sale.

[@colincameron6263]

I will spend less and have the bigger engine offered in the Everest. Some will jump in with the reliability thing however i have had two Everests and five Rangers and can tell you first hand there is nothing wrong with reliability. Others will say i am just a Ford fan however my newest vehicle at the mo is a 2022 Hilux.

[@unclebob5686]

I paid $61,000 for my GXL Dec 2019 and absolutely cannot justify spending $90,000 for the new GXL. Toyota has lost me as a customer when the time to change comes.

[@albertauwyang1925]

Don’t worry i already replacing u. i bought Kakadu $108k and i love it.

[@unclebob5686]

Well you're dumb for spending that sort of money on a Prado when you could buy a LandCruiser 😅😅😅😅😅​@@albertauwyang1925

[@flynndai7490]

If you flip the head rest around, it should work with your hair buns! Different car, but same idea

[@michaelsecomb4115]

Can't see any reason to trade my 2009 Defender for a 250. Doesn't meet my needs.

[@richwhetton]

I love ACC but my 2016 Golf has it.

[@mikezog1030]

It’s shocking that you only get rear lockers with the altitude.

[@johnx9318]

You did the cost rundown on the 250 gxl and came in at just below 90k You said that the 300 series gxl would be the better buy. You didn't point out that the 300 series GXL is 120k! That's an extra 30k BEFORE luxury vehicle tax! This isn't a fair comparison. On the other hand, the Altitude 250 is around 100k, plux luxury tax - and it's built for off-roading.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@johnx9318 I was just saying that it’s close to a GX 300 which I think is a better option for touring and towing. If you don’t want all the flash altitude tech you can get a GX 300 for similar money, just food for thought 🤷‍♂️

[@johnx9318]

@@OverlandTravellers if you're going to delete the seats, why not not-buy them? The altitude seems to be fairly priced if it's going to be used for its purpose.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@johnx9318 because for altitude money you could get a GXL, delete the seats and have enough left over for front and rear differential locks, 2 inch remote res suspension, tires and rims, front bar, recovery points and a winch and go a lot further than a altitude. Again don’t get me wrong, I love the altitude, it’s just a really expensive car for what you’re getting. It’s the same engine, gearbox and driveline across the range.

[@johnx9318]

@@OverlandTravellers That's a different way of looking at it. Not one I had considered. Have an Altitude on order and looking forward to doing the Morton bay Islands with it!

[@OverlandTravellers]

@ you’ll love it mate it will be a great car and if I had the cash I would have got that one!

[@murrayjohnston5986]

Get a fte 100 series and have a spare 40 k

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@murrayjohnston5986 or more! I’ve seen some decent prices on them recently.

[@davidmilledge221]

Have you still got the previous troopy

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@davidmilledge221 which one?

[@robmacca67]

@@OverlandTravellers V8 one

[@toejoe5076]

Absolute rip off Toyota vehicles have become. I see their tactics over the covid period have come back to haunt them. They have cars stockpiling up in their yards now. Even their great overpriced Landcruiser 70 series. I’ve owned Toyotas all my life. Won’t be buying any more of them. People that talk about Toyota reliability are kidding themselves now.

[@primafacie6442]

Agree the Car Care Nut has indicated the zenith of Toyota’s venerable durability is long since passed.

[@DanFinlayson-n9d]

Made the mistake of reading comments early on. Most completely misinterpret what you are saying about the car. Interestingly the guys at 4x4 24/7 just reviewed it against its main competitors and albeit reluctantly, did gave it best value overall. Totally agree that that’s when talking about the GX spec- which full disclosure I have and am really happy with so far. But you are never going to keep everyone happy and time will tell re reliability. I am definitely nervous/aware of water and the 48v system, but hoping it was one of those freak occurrences. Thanks for the honest review. Will continue to watch the build. Think I might copy what you have done with tyres as don’t have the extra cash for wheels at the moment. It does blow my mind how many Everest die hards take the time to watch these videos… or just comment based on the title.

[@beachroadie]

Maybe quote correct figures..Altitude is $101116 driveaway in Vic

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@beachroadie in the fine print does it say it includes LCT?

[@beachroadie]

@@OverlandTravellers Yes please check for yourself.

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@beachroadie yeah I did and it says taxes not included?

[@davefembock7545]

Altitude is, 101k drive away final price drive away, inc all taxes etc

[@Stevegrande1]

All states vary in price. You can generally buy cheaper than what the on line price is but he is quoting the on line prices by Toyota Australia

[@judeaut3]

what size tires are those?

[@YoosYawBrayn]

Great insight, guys, but Toyota tax is too much for me on this one. I've had a few, but this is slightly off the mark. You bought the correct one, though, but boy, for that sort of money, she's pretty sparce inside. Funny pro for adaptive cruise control, I have 3 cars with it at the moment, oldest being 2017. It's been around for ages, and works great in most cars, even way cheaper. Agree with other pros after test drive. Cons, too expensive, Ad blue, unfortunately that's the way it's going though. The biggest misses are the smaller fuel tank for range, and rear boot space, depending on configuration, and the useless 24V system to add weight & complexity. Still not powerful enough imo, and a big NO for towing with GVM, power, & and ad blue. I think for some consumers, it's fine, but not the masses it used to appeal to. I think an Everest ticks more boxes, for more people, including me.

[@Macedonia270]

I desperately want to buy the new Prado...as soon as Toyota fit a V6 Diesel...

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@Macedonia270 well you can get a v6 petrol with the GX 550

[@Macedonia270]

@@OverlandTravellers I tow my boat, so I need a Diesel... I currently tow with a Land Cruiser 79 V8, had the turbo, intercooler, ECU and exhaust upgraded, she now makes 280kW and 900Nm torque...

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@Macedonia270 yeah well that’s a hard act to follow! I love the V8 with a tune

[@kennethprocak5176]

Water spraying all over the vehical happens on HWYs. When there’s a big downpour. Toyota deflection like normal since year 2000.

[@BackVintageWines]

I'm staying with my 150 series...

[@OverlandTravellers]

@@BackVintageWines fair enough

[@mikezog1030]

I think that is pretty shortsighted to say that you are paying for the name. The engine is proven. The underpinnings such as the suspension and struts are robust and bulletproof. You pay for quality.

[@gc198-w3c]

Shame on Toyota not included basic feature like rear diff lock

[@mortyoreilly]

In the US they come standard, even on the base model.

[@smarty_7997]

Meanwhile, a series of 4x4 industry experts with 4WD 24/7 have just named the Prado 250 the best value for money 4x4 wagon. Might have got it wrong guys?

[@OverlandTravellers]

Well, personally I think they are expensive for what you’re getting especially in the top variants, but still a great car. But as far as resale and towing capacity for the price then in that aspect they are good value.

[@Hickovids81]

And didn’t they get hammered by the public for it. Prado and 300 were clearly outperformed on a lot of the tests yet the “industry experts “ made up of well known Toyota fanboys ranked them highest. It was a blatant Toyota advertisement 😂.

[@danielgordon4760]

That 86k price includes LCT in QLD