Overlord Volume 16 | Is Zesshi Zetsumei actually the Daughter of Ainz ooal Gown's friends?

[@Amodh1257]

There were probably hundreds if not thousands of elf players in Yggdrasil. The chance that Akemi was online during the shutdown, when her sister wasn't is low, the chance that she or the people near her had a world item(in order to be summoned to the New World) even lower, the chance that she was summoned to the New World before Ainz even lower than that and the chance that she was specifically one of the 6GGs or even the 8GKs even more so. This is a huge huge huge shot in the dark

[@hadescerbex9984]

the before ainz one point isnt true they where all summoned at the same time but apperead at diffrent time

[@Amodh1257]

@@hadescerbex9984 I know, and the point still stands. The chance that she "appeared" before Ainz did is even lower

[@TheNoble885]

That she had a world item on her slimmer

[@Amodh1257]

@@TheNoble885 true

[@XiaoYueMao]

@@Amodh1257 nearly everyone who was summoned appeared before Ainz did, as hes where the story is focused on, thus, in the timeline hes the "last" to be summoned, of course some might appear after him, but we arent following a time after him, thus is irrelevent, so no, the chance she appeared before ainz is actually quite high statistically

[@severien42]

I have no doubt Akemi was brought to the new world. Her mention along with the hints of the other elves interaction lends credence to it. However, since the novel timeline has been sped up, I'm afraid it is probably a dropped plot point which was going to be explained further.

[@cheshyre3969]

She is the daughter of the elf king and the captured godkin that sparked the war with the elves

[@bluebowser3347]

You tell 'em Cheshyre.

[@andersonlall9856]

Thanks!

[@schaargock]

^^

[@MrRonald327]

Zesshi was always meant for bigger things.

[@mark45635]

No she’s going to die or be experimented on.

[@johncarlsonmata2195]

1st Theory: I know this is just a theory, so please forgive me if I'm being rube, but where did you get the theory that one of the Six Great Gods was an elf player? As Surshana was said to be the last god of the theocracy to die by the Eight Greed Kings, while the rest of his companions passed away due to old age and elves are immortal, they can live for hundreds of years. So where did you this theory? 2nd Theory: Or could it be that Akemi was the only female player among the Eight Greed Kings and so they fought each other for her love and affection?

[@vikingsword3485]

I would rather like this twist. I really saw no hope for Slane but I would gladly welcome something other than Ainz just steam rolling every country so the author can finish the series

[@mark45635]

Nah Ainz will vanquish humanity and Slane as well as the dragons from existence. Although I did wonder about what he would’ve wrote if he actually went through with 20 volumes

[@slaumir]

@@mark45635 or 30 volumes would be amazing 🥰

[@EternalRulerETH195]

In episode 1 demiurge talked about breading experiments and specifically asks for Mares help when the time comes so I personally believe that she's going to be brainwashed into having his kid

[@BektostheBlackBlade]

Also Zesshi said in ep1 of season 2 that if a man 'best' her in combat she would want a his seed to make a strong child. So she wouldn't need brainwashing in that regard.

[@HiddenOcelot]

@@BektostheBlackBlade I mean yeah, she did say that, and mare is a man.

[@TGameDev]

@@BektostheBlackBlade she said that but chapter 16 confirmed she didn't truly mean that. It could very well be a monkeys paw thing though so I guess we'll find out (seems likely).

[@BektostheBlackBlade]

@@TGameDev True, but most people haven't read the light novels so they wouldn't know that. I only just recently read chapter 16 so yeah. And at the same time she has never thought any man could beat her, and I think she was thinking of besting her in combat where she knew she was probably going to die. Like defeating her and find no pleasure in finishing her off because maybe she could push him beyond his limits so that they could both get stronger.

[@The-Singularity-X01]

Didn't Maruyama state that nobody from Ainz Ooal Gown or anyone ELSE Momonga knew for that matter appeared in The New World?

[@mark45635]

Y’all want her to live so bad😂😂

[@eleasandrinhoarantes3078]

LoL. I could take it or leave it . I’d rather her not wake up anymore tho

[@jotheunissen9274]

Nazarick doesn't even need to capture her Just have a male Nazarickan (like Mare for example) defeat her and Zesshi is at their side immediately

[@delsintm691]

Mare already defeated her.

[@jotheunissen9274]

@@delsintm691 I put Mare as an example Point is, Zesshi has literally said she will throw herself legs spread at the first male to defeat her

[@teriyakisauce7320]

Also, she realized she wasn't serious about that when she was getting spanked by Mare.

[@omniscience9631]

@@jotheunissen9274 she considered mare "a pretty elf girl" when he was moping the floor with her.

[@jotheunissen9274]

@@omniscience9631 If only she knew

[@asahearts1]

Just watched Edgerunners before this and those hand images are reminding me of best girl.

[@Kaemonarch]

1:52 About the NPCs being somewhat familiar with her existance and/or remembering them... I don't read the Light Novels (only Anime, Wiki and videos like these), so I don't know if this is mentioned/adressed ever or not but... what DO the NPCs actually know/remember? Do they have ANY memories from the game AT ALL? Or do they just know what they were programmed with and what came bundled together in the Great Tomb of Nazarick? Like... I know that Albedo recognized the shape of her creator when Pandora's Actor was shapeshifting as them (and could even tell it wasn't them but a fake), but as far as I know that could be just from data in her NPC entry (linking her data to whoever created her, for example), or stuff engraved in the data of the Guild itself (like who were the members registered with the Great Tomb of Nazarick as their Guild Base and the statues of them present there). I personally doubt they have any actual MEMORIES from the game, when they were just NPCs back then. I can't imagine the floor guardians having memories of the day-to-day real world chit-chat that occured between Guild Members, for example. They would understand if Ainz explained to them who the elf was, sister to a Supreme Being and what not... but if she isn't directly mentioned in any data block of the NPCs entries; not being part of the guild, I doubt they would have any idea/memory of her.

[@marksalmoneussorcerersupreme]

Doubtful. As we know the only Heteromorphic /subhuman amongst the Six Gods was the undead Surshana. It's also evident that players possessing world items were being transported to the New World. Though with so many players and there being 200 or more world items, a good select amount of players have been transported, only a drop in the bucket are known who went and made an impact in New World History. It's possible the Elf King is the descendant of a player as well or maybe not. There's a lot of unknown pre-history yet to be explained prior to the 500 years when players and tier magic arrived, it's possible Elves had or still have great magical aptitude next to dragons in the Ancient times and unlike most dragons, the Elven Kings Bloodline was quick to adopt and master tier magic.

[@Amodh1257]

It is confirmed in volume 16 outright, that the Elf King is the son of the elven player of the 8 Greed Kings.

[@marksalmoneussorcerersupreme]

@@Amodh1257 hmmm ok, I had not read volume 16 and the Overlord wiki hasn't mentioned that. I was under the impression, as the legends described, that each of the 8 Greed Kings as Gargantuan and Dragon-esque. Though that's possibly and proven to be an embellishment.

[@justinseithalil7181]

Can't wait for Allbedho to discover Zeshi's connection and terminate her with prejudice! Could kickstart a small civil war. Books are wrapping up so something has to give soon.

[@redomnitrix6834]

Her connection to what what are you talking about

[@michaelhopcroft8115]

@@redomnitrix6834 they are referring to if zeshi is related to a player from nazerick.

[@redomnitrix6834]

@@michaelhopcroft8115 oh i get it

[@Loganthered1]

How long after death can someone be resurrected here?

[@MiguelLopez-yc2rh]

How do you think Ainz will confront Platinum Dragon Lord´s main body if he barely leaves his flying caslte? Will he manage to take the castle and all its treasures for Nazarick?

[@staris3712]

It will either be that, or Ainz / Nazarick will do something that forces Platinum Dragon Lord to take action. Leading assumption would be Ainz vs the puppet body part 2 goes very unfavorably in Platinum's favor, causing Platinum to realize Ainz is an ever bigger threat than any other player he has come across requiring his full strength. As I so agree with the theory that the puppet body is similar to a doppelganger of 80% equivalent to the original, will mean Platinum assumes the 20% power boost will give him the advantage he needs. Not realizing Ainz with his World Level Item is perfectly setup to curb stomp him.

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

There hasnt been any hints of Akemi, she was only mentioned once I believe. Once thing we should think about is why doesnt ainz recognize the guilds or players. Surely he kept up to date with which guilds help World class items and/or fought and encountered players from their guilds. I know near the end he was more focused on maintaining the guild since he was solo but??

[@stonalisa3729]

He probably kept up with the top PVP guilds. Others may focus more on PVE

[@fistimusmaximus6576]

@@stonalisa3729 true and a possibility but surely the pvp guilds would have taken and horded the world items.

[@sirnonsense5033]

Some guilds might have not shown every world item they good. Also they might not have been full guilds but 6/8 strong players that met up at the end of Yggdrasil or be at the same place cuz no other person of their guild was online anymore. Just ains was teleported with his hole base no? From the others just 1 npc was taken along

[@GardenOwlksj]

Wow

[@ntjaditladi2580]

She'll just be kept alive cause she's strong, ainz said himself he needs power to strengthen nazarick. And they might experiment on her.

[@miguelarturogallegosacuna3803]

In the lucid dream Zesshi have she remembers a maid whit the name NAZARIE, just saing.

[@dingdong3240]

I would like it if ainz guild mates showed up at the end to judge him for his actions

[@mark45635]

Majority of them are evil if not worse even touch me was an evil cop who played hero in the game.

[@dingdong3240]

@@mark45635 didn’t the guild start as a safe haven for heteromorph players then eventually became a villainous role play guild.

[@mark45635]

@@dingdong3240 Yea but what Ainz has done is what they’d do anyway they were pkers and had a distain for races like humans and elves anything that wasn’t heteromorphic or evil wasn’t it. If they were there they would like have conquered the world by season 1 rather than lay low. Most their Karmas would be high negatives and they’ll act like their characters were meant to same as Ainz. For example we know Ainz character is -500 so he lacks care for life other than people from Nazarik as well as being an Elder lich which are supposed to be highly intelligent which he is unknowingly. His actions up till now of catching people in the act and being at the right place and right time are in his character not just coincidence. Players who transport to the New World enact their characters settings and programmings unknowingly so Touch me would likely be the hero of justice for evil he always wanted to be.

[@redomnitrix6834]

@@mark45635 dude it was just role-playing that's all there are school teachers and all

[@mark45635]

@@redomnitrix6834 No it’s not just role playing there’s no way you’ve watched any past videos at all clearly just skipped to this one. Their characters represent their deepest fantasies. What they wanted to be in the game also reflected their personalities actually watch the show and you’ll know this. Also the response you had has nothing to do with the question he asked clearly bored looking to pick an argument🤦🏾‍♂️.

[@sheheryarkhan5977]

Could of 6 god be from. Be za

[@ariki9797]

I want this to be true

[@icouldntthinkofagoodname7216]

Lol no she=happy farm. Get over it

[@Qohelethful]

It’s likely but it won’t happen because the author is bored with the series.

[@zombiesblacksmithetc8874]

If Mara defeated zesshi wouldn't she want him as her partner

[@longtsun8286]

Mare crossdresses because his creator thought such behavior was "cute." If Zesshi doesn't mistake Mare as a girl, she may instead think he's gay, and uninterested in fathering children.

[@zombiesblacksmithetc8874]

@longtsun well that is true but she stated she didn't care what they looked as long they was strong enough to beat her

[@andraskovacs5431]

I think she had her character growth about that before the fight with the Elf king. Her thinking "yeah I kinda want a strong husband and want to kill my dad" "but I love my country enough to have that as priority."

[@zombiesblacksmithetc8874]

@@andraskovacs5431 true true

[@jaycol21]

Zesshi’s attitude is largely an act. We learn that during her fight with Mare. She’s really just trying to avoid being forced into marriage to produce more God-kin, like the Captain of the Black Scripture was.

[@ntjaditladi2580]

She'll just be kept alive cause she's strong, ainz said himself he needs power to strengthen nazarick. And they might experiment on her.