I am not even an helicopter pilot and I understood your explanation. Good job!
@SmittySmithsonite5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, same here - well done, Mischa!
@euaniceland5 жыл бұрын
its actually amazing how he humbly explains things. Im a firm beleiver in when someone truly understands their subject they can explain it easily. This guy is a leader in the industry. EDIT : RIP little cbi :(
@MrBen5275 жыл бұрын
Same here. I wonder if the altitude surprised this guy too with less engine power.
@joeglennaz4 жыл бұрын
Same here!! I am a private fixed wing pilot. Great job! I really like this channel
@mikepaz48704 жыл бұрын
Concur
@anthonycostanza28965 жыл бұрын
Good explaination about a common but all to frequent accident cause.. After Army flight school i got my real training in Vietnam.(1968-70). We were frequently operating at max gross in jungle mountains. We did not always have the luxury of doing OGE power checks or get actual weights due combat conditions. (Not recommended for your civilian or training environments because you always have time for flight planning in normal operations). One thing i always tried to afford my self was to have an escape plan if i started running out of left pedal on an approach. Instead of flying straight ahead, I tried to have a way clear to turn right (and down) add some right pedal in the turn. Full left pedal is telling you that the helicopter is not happy with the conditions. A combination of reducing power requirements and some airspeed brings back that happy feeling and you again are one with the machine. More than 50 years involved with helicopters and airplane and I have never damaged anything. Except for the occasional bullet hole. It seems there are no new accidents, just repeating old ones with different names and A/C numbers. I enjoy your videos and you are usually spot on with the information.
@falcos5 жыл бұрын
Anthony Costanza thanks for taking the time to write all that, You sir are a badass, Thank you for your service and for sharing your knowledge!
@westva225 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information...and your service in Vietnam
@frederickwhite64164 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service brother. TH55A, Cairns at Mother Rucker. Wonder if Enterprise is still a dry town?
@pasadiko4014 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an endorsement from a Viet vet. Misha, you must be doing something right (lol).
@CPBreezy804 жыл бұрын
Are you from Cincinnati?
@falcos5 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you explained this. You managed to do it in a way that didn’t talk down to the audience but also explained it enough to make it accessible to anyone. That is a rare skill, You are a good teacher!
@xCoolBreezex5 жыл бұрын
You’re a good dude it’s clear you want to save lives and your passion for flying is obvious
@jjsemperfi5 жыл бұрын
We used a pretty simple formula to estimate power available for high alt stuff. You lose roughly 1” of MP (Manifold Pressure) per 1,000’. You can also subtract about 1” of MP due to induction loss. So if you’re trying to land at 8,000’ (static MP there should be around 22” minus 1” for the induction loss) which leaves you about 21” of MP available. If you’re pulling into the approach and you haven’t even dropped out of ETL yet and you’re already pulling close to 20-21” then you know you’re most likely not going to have the power available to hover and or land. We could also roughly calculate our hover MP by taking our weight and dividing it by around 70-80 lbs per 1” MP (depending on season and helicopter) and this would tell you your rough hover MP. It’s been a long time since I’ve flown 300’s but say you’ve got a takeoff weight of 1700 lbs. Divide that by 75 and you get 22.6” of MP. So you can estimate a hover MP of around 22.5”. You could also try and figure this out for OGE (we just used IGE most of the time) if you wanted to play around with it. Piston performance stuff was pretty fun. Can’t say I miss the little hamster ball too much but I sure learned a lot from it.
@josemadarieta8655 жыл бұрын
yep. never had to deal with thin of a power margin but high da always a consideration. why you would even think to try that over the water just amazes me. had it happened over the ground it would have been an embarrassing learning opportunity and not a loss of a 1/4 million dollar aircraft
@fredharms42185 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing it. It was a Schweizer that had the problem, but I've had it in Jet Rangers, Hueys and Blackhawks. Any helicopter is vulnerable. We had the necessity to train pilots to land on true pinnacles, with terrain sloping away from the landing point so there wasn't any ground effect available. The technique was to make a slow approach and come to an out of ground effect hover a safe distance from the pinnacle, approximately 50 to 100 ft, above the touchdown elevation. If you can't stop the aircraft here, you won't be able to stop it on the pinnacle. At that point, if it starts to settle, lower the nose and either accelerate over the pinnacle toward lower terrain or turn away and fly out toward lower terrain. It's a lot tougher at night and on NVG's because you can't make a normal approach. You have to fly at the pinnacle at the same height so you can keep it in sight until you can put your skids or wheels on the touchdown point. Ya'll be careful out there. Live long and prosper!
@m118lr5 жыл бұрын
Fred Harms ...that’d be awesome training technique or practice
@josemadarieta8655 жыл бұрын
yep. except i'd think you'd have to be super high/hot/heavy to have much problems with the blackhawk. the apache never ran out of power. the cobra, sometimes. i would probably be an ntsb report if i tried to fly one of those little thingys
@webowner795 жыл бұрын
I am not a helicopter pilot but private wing pilot. Watching your videos for quite a while. You have a very unique way of teaching stuff that is very easy to understand. Fantastic job you do here. Greets from Europe.
@kd4dcy4 жыл бұрын
What nobody seems to be asking is WHY he didn't have sufficient power to hover, resulting in an overpitch situation? Was this a very hot and high situation?
@ndksou3 жыл бұрын
High elevation and inexperience is my guess
@BitwiseMobile3 жыл бұрын
It looks like a mountainous area, so I'm thinking he has never flown at that altitude before. He's probably used to flying at or close to sea level and he probably pulled that hover off a thousand times before at sea level with no problem. That's my guess.
@JayPatel1013 жыл бұрын
I have the same question. Why isn't this scenario built into some guard rail automation to prevent. What's the definitive answer, does anyone know?
@carlwilliams69773 жыл бұрын
@@JayPatel101 I find your question problematic. Relying on technology is exactly why some "pilots" are running into trouble in commercial aviation. The SFO Asiana crash being a prime example! In this situation, he didn't have enough power to do what he was trying to do, and didn't leave himself enough altitude to escape. No technology is going to help you at that point! Self-inflating pontoons, notwithstanding! 🙂
@kevinstorm60093 жыл бұрын
@@BitwiseMobile the helicopter in the video is an older type. It appears to be a Schweizer S300 or similar. Technologies that might’ve helped the pilot avoid this problem may be lacking in such an older aircraft. The problem here was the pilot’s lack of training OR failure to apply the training received.
@lacidy5 жыл бұрын
I have heard Mischa say many, many times "do a power check". I never understood why. Well, now i know.
@MarkWilliams-rx6bl8 ай бұрын
When I was flying Helos, we used to to call this phenomenon “Settling with Power”. The escape was exactly as you described. Well done!
@charliekeyes70418uuuu5 жыл бұрын
That was an excellent excellent video, thank you so much for spending the time showing us this video.
@davidstruginski56214 жыл бұрын
Yea this guy knows his stuff Well done man top pilot👌👍
@wyattwells24635 жыл бұрын
So my comment has to do with the likes vs dislikes... How does anyone dislike this video? It's very informative and very easy to understand. I guess you just cant please everyone...🙄
@pasadiko4014 жыл бұрын
wyatt wells, hater will be haters, nobody can make happy everyone
@Milkmans_Son4 жыл бұрын
It's sad, it's overpitched, it's LTE... ok, great, but did we just watch somebody die? Just a thought.
@REDMAN2984 жыл бұрын
It`s scary that there are so many ignorant haters.
@piloth70395 жыл бұрын
More instructional/practical+theory videos like this please! You have a great way of 'telling the story' so that people understand the first time around, the flight video you shoot complements perfectly too. Maybe some interior video and commentary of what you experience in that situation would have been good too 🤷♂️
@ahcmit5 жыл бұрын
As an ex-glider pilot we would always look at the accident reports in training and figure out what went wrong and how to best learn from these very sad events. Good video and thanks for the safety briefing. Mountain flying sounds the best type of flying, I am coming out there in a few years!
@AdventuresWithPurpose5 жыл бұрын
I have a show on lifting larger items out of the water. Was this ever recovered? Would you like some help? Let's connect.
@mickeyjuiced5 жыл бұрын
Make a habit of demonstrative vlogs like this & not only could you save lives - improve helicopter safety around the world, you'll be the number 1 yt channel for helicopter pilots in no time, well done Mischa !
@javadocF165 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I was very impressed at how concise & interesting you made this description of over pitch . I am a Seaplane Pilot and I fly an amphibious aircraft and as you described the correction of Over pitch, my mind said, STALL, STALL and the correction was reminiscent of stall recovery. Pitch forward , gain airspeed and never practice without adequate altitude. I think your style of instruction makes learning easy.
@WOODBARK1004 жыл бұрын
Correct - It's exactly the way I feel it - Over-pitched on maxed power = Loss or reduced air flow over the fixed wing or rotating wing = STALL. . . . Recovery = Quickly Reduce angle of attack ( stick forward on fix wing ) ( lower collective on rotary wing & cyclic forward to gain forward momentum) . . . Of course, on a "fixed wing" in order to gain forward momentum you will need enough altitude or an engine with some sort of reserve "power boost" system!
@simonj1264 жыл бұрын
The blades aren't stalling....they just aren't producing enough lift as the rrpm decays.
@thomastucker56864 жыл бұрын
@@simonj126 it's more the engine is stalling, but I understand it to be the engine lacking the force required for that blade pitch. It is an aerodynamic issue like a stall in that the airflow over the foils is directly impacting the condition.
@quantumperformance66865 жыл бұрын
holy shit, in the last 2 years of training I have had, I have never heard something so logically obvious. It's a second hand nature I have always felt, but for you to place all of this into words is priceless. It makes sense!
@leonardodivinci8045 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! This kind of information will keep your channel in the forefront of knowledge transfer and help your channel grow. Thank you as always.
@stephen51473 жыл бұрын
Just days away from taking my rotor PPL check ride. This is very helpful. Great channel. Thanks. Update: 22 months later... just passed my Commercial helicopter check ride.
@TheRailroaddan5 жыл бұрын
My Instructor taught me this lesson early on in the Hughes 300C , amazing how quickly the pilot lost control , very sad , thanks for sharing .
@blancolirio3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation!
@florianvalois45483 жыл бұрын
Yy
@MrSteve27147405 жыл бұрын
It’s so nice to listen to someone that can put a situation across without going into all that CAA and FFA B.S. jargon. Another great vid from the “Master explaining a Disaster” 👍🏻
@guidolyons49125 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Just had this same conversation about LTE recovery with one of my students yesterday. Used the video of the NYC Hudson river LTE as an example. Now I have another to share. Avoid slow downwind hover, avoid downwind OGE hover. Always have an "out" if things don't go as planned. Lower collective, full left pedal (or right, if your rotor system turns clockwise) and forward cyclic and fly out of it.
@nipponhouseplayer4 жыл бұрын
In a 269 you lower the collective as you break into transition and it makes it feel smooth and look like its suppose too! It takes lots of power to hover(manifold) less to hover directly into the wind and lesser power to fly through transmission! Nose it over , lower the collective a bit ,get momentum , (into the wind is best ) and fly the machine.
@joentexas5 жыл бұрын
Misha, been a while since I've watched a video but i really like your technical explanations. You make it so easy to understand for a non flyer. Thanks.
@ikay21025 жыл бұрын
Mischa, you should find time and will to write a Helicopter bible 😁 I have a feeling that would be priceless.
@rickb064 жыл бұрын
Yeah this guy is awesome, he cares and that's enough for most to learn.
@chrisnedbalek28662 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! You do a really good job explaining things! The pilot gave away all of his options, all of his altitude, for absolutely nothing. He literally put himself in a position where he had virtually no alternatives.
@GustavoSantos-gz7uj4 жыл бұрын
Experience is EVERYTHING.
@kenkaplan4413 Жыл бұрын
I am getting ready for my first lesson and so far this has been the best instructional video I have seen. Keep the videos coming.
@brussell6394 жыл бұрын
This sounds exactly like when fixed wing pilots stall the plane, they instinctively want to pull back on the stick because they're afraid the plane is going down. In truth, they're already in a nose up attitude, but are unaware due to spatial disorientation. The nose up attitude is causing the loss of speed, which causes the stall, and unless they push the stick forward and get the nose back down and the speed back up, it will drop out of the sky like a rock.
@stuarthall38744 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of the training with riding motorcycles where one is taught that if the front wheel starts sliding in a turn to increase throttle to transfer weight from the front wheel to the rear wheel. The instinct is to slow down when the front wheel starts sliding.
@brussell6394 жыл бұрын
@@stuarthall3874 Yeah, and grabbing that front brake is another thing riders will instinctively want to do too, and that's going to put you on the ground even quicker. I don't know if I'd respond appropriately in that situation either. The only time I've ever had my front wheel sliding out from under me was because I was having to do an unplanned stop. I had just left a car wash and was approaching an intersection. I thought the guy in front of me was going thru the light, but he changed his mind. Fortunately I wasn't going very fast. I managed to get my feet down and save the bike, but I thought I might have broken my left leg in the process. But I have pretty sturdy bones, thankfully. I couldn't be out breaking my legs in Montana when home is back in Texas, it would've ruined the trip.
@brussell6394 жыл бұрын
@That's_Mr_Ass_To_You It seems like they've become so reliant on the autopilot and a checklist that they've forgotten how to just fly the plane. Another thing I've noticed is they have little to no knowledge about which automated flight controls can stay on, or turn off in the background when the main autopilot function shuts off for whatever reason (kind of like the MCAS debacle on the 737 max, only I don't blame the pilots on that since Boeing didn't bother to tell anyone it existed).
@brussell6394 жыл бұрын
@That's_Mr_Ass_To_You Good example. It's kinda scary.
@uwekonnigsstaddt5244 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Air France 447. The pilot flying kept the “nose up” input all the way until crashing, never telling the other pilot what he was doing. Of course, the other pilot never asked either.
@joshuacorrington1534 жыл бұрын
I like how this guy explains things.. If you are even minimally knowledgeable of the helicopter lingo and names of the controls, then listening to him is just like him explaining to you how to ride a bike..
@TransferAir4 жыл бұрын
🚁 Crash = 😔 The Hughes 300 is such a beautiful machine!. I know it sounds weird but this was the best looking Heli-Crash I’ve ever seen because of the great landscape. 🤙🏼
@Mark-et8vh Жыл бұрын
The closest I’ve come to flying a helicopter, was sitting in the front seat for a pass ride over Victoria Falls. That being said, I really enjoyed this video. Your thorough, yet understandable style, helped even me to understand. Your students are very fortunate. Thank you for sharing your expertise.
@curtkelsey21363 жыл бұрын
So I have only been flying for 20 years and I learned in my first year as a commercial pilot that an OGE hover power check is a terrible idea, you can do a good power check by just flying over your spot and checking your power no need to put your self at risk if not needed. Thanks for your videos.
@ramjet40253 жыл бұрын
well put.
@jeffcurry9203 жыл бұрын
Wow flying a helicopter seems so much harder than than flying a plane. I landed a 45 cub I think that is what I was told my friend was in back seat flying it says take this air craft to those fields never heard another word from him. I ended up getting my shit together just above the corn pulled throttle back and splashed into cornfield old man Peterson had a hear attack no longer with us but 20 minutes before we took off he said I will have you flying my outfit today. He lied I crashed his outfit
@springwellssw2 жыл бұрын
Genius! Wish you was in my state. I would for sure take flying lessons with you
@machelicopter805 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see more of this kind of content. It helps a lot for a good understanding of safe helicopter operation.
@TomBartlett-w2jАй бұрын
Either way, BCH does a great job, as usual, of explaining LTE and how to prevent it.
@wac36195 жыл бұрын
Nice, easy to understand, But the music at the tail end of video is distracting. Good job.
@pistonpilot4 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation. This fixed-wing pilot was immediately able to translate it.
@patrickr88905 жыл бұрын
Wow Mischa, I absolutely love this video. Great info!👏
@davegeorge23073 жыл бұрын
I've seen pilots do that many times and had no idea what was going on. Thanks for the great content
@michaela.6604 жыл бұрын
So for us fixed wing guys, this is an 'approach to stall/spin recovery'.
@youdoyouplayer85293 жыл бұрын
I love how the camera goes in and out of focus between his face and the helos as he’s explaining things.
@dwill25834 жыл бұрын
Dudes informational breakdown is A1
@PearlyG_4 жыл бұрын
Mischa, I have these problems often in my Flight Sim (X-Plane 11) and your explanation will undoubtedly help me improve my landings and low level flying. Thank you very much!
@yosyp59054 жыл бұрын
Are you using the default helicopter?
@PearlyG_4 жыл бұрын
@@yosyp5905 I am using various helicopters mostly from Vskylabs with controls on most realistic setting in X-plane, (R66, Cabri, Cicare), Dreamfoil 407 and freeware Bell 429 from Tom Woods
@Whirlynerds5 жыл бұрын
First thing I said was, Power Check!..thanks to the years of watching this channel...and I'm not even a pilot..Yet ;)
@Cruiser0074 жыл бұрын
I'm not a helicopter pilot by far but everything you explained made perfect sense. Thanks for the video.
@flyingmonkey33155 жыл бұрын
I would love to learn to fly with you man. What could be an overwhelming situation, so easily explained. Love it
@backwoodsriders18794 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation! Never flown in a helicopter and understood everything
@dwC4u5 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation! How about doing one about the accident involving C-GELP last November?
@altonrowell81373 жыл бұрын
When I first saw this video I was saying more tork peddle. But I'm sure he was giving it all he had. Very explained .
@sathishkumar-dx2tv5 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on bringing up that helicopter from water..
@kazivance38034 жыл бұрын
i honestly agree as someone who is learning to become a sport liscense helicopter pilot i really would love a tutorial on how to to escape a situation like this. please get back to us OP.
@ostapbendervan78744 жыл бұрын
Thats.old proprietary
@j.w.7688 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I have about 225 hrs in Robinson 22'ss and 44's but haven't flown in many years. But, i still have that passion for Heli's and the industry. Its refreshing watching and listening to your vids and knowledge in this field. Always enjoyable. Do you have any vids where you discuss the NOTAR system? Thanks again, take care.👍
@patricia26454 жыл бұрын
The drop of power at hover, reminds me of trying to accelerate an automobile going 35mph in 5th gear"
@gratonkuria47834 жыл бұрын
Perfect and easy to understand explanation.
@dsfs179874 жыл бұрын
@@gratonkuria4783 it is an oversimplification, and in this particular case it does more harm than good, it gives you an illusion you understand everything involved when in fact you don't, there are things one should not dumb down to 1+1=2 The problem with the car is that you're out of the sweet power spot of the engine, you got loads and loads of reserve power, you simply need to access it - drop a gear, increase rpm on the engine and you're fine The problem with the heli is that you're losing altitude, you're already at full power, there is no gear to drop down, the only fix is to lower the tax on the engine - reduce angle of attack of the rotor which also fixes the rotation, because the rotor torque is decreased - doing that however means you're going down even quicker So it is very much NOT like trying to accelerate in 5th gear at low speed, the only car comparison would be that you're trying to overtake someone on a 2lane highway, you got an incoming car on the opposite lane, and the guy you're overtaking is speeding up, and you're already in the low gear to get max acceleration, and that is still not enough to pass the cu** to your right before you run into the car in the opposing lane, thankfully you can slow down and feed behind the cu**, with heli - not so much, the incoming ground will hit you
@ostapbendervan78744 жыл бұрын
Make sense, lower power above knock out stage Someone forgot.newton law
@dsfs179873 жыл бұрын
@@dapje2002 I may have come off as condescending, but that wasn't the aim like you suggest, and if you had some education in physics along with English grammar, you'd understand the meaning of my comment. I also didn't call anyone names like you did, and you also did nothing to exlain anything, you worthless piece of grammar nazi
@truckerray75335 жыл бұрын
Out of all the vidoes that i have seen from Mischa of Pilot Yellow, this one right here is by far my favorite one. Its awesome in one asspect that Mischa shares with us his journeys as a helicopter flight instructor there in Canada & with his studants but on the other is an excellant safety training video & detailed explanation of what happens, what a pilot should not do, & what a pilot should do to regain recovered control & get the helicopter back to "powerded", safe, forward, flight! Thankyou Mischa for sharing this video & i think you should take the time to share more helicopter safety video. God bless you my friend. Fly safe!!!
@wernerwiedon13315 жыл бұрын
Yes Rodney my friend from Colorado, appriciate very much your answer for Micha. I have been two times in Bell 47 in this happen with out having a crash but was very anxiety and was having highly respakt how quick it is happen, instinct I did what Micha sayed thanks God 10 - 4 ! I highly recommend Michas instraction and flight School, have also seen from the world tour Videos it was awesome !
@truckerray75335 жыл бұрын
@@wernerwiedon1331 Thankyou Werner my friend from Germany
@bradreambeault35845 жыл бұрын
Another good vid Mischa. I'm assuming that's in BC somewhere so I'm guessing that it was a combination of over weight and high altitude. Keep up the great work!
@jameswalley1344 жыл бұрын
This is very good advice. I flew UH1H Iroquois helicopters for 4.5 years in the Australian Air Force. I was a Check Captain and an Air Mobil Commander. I had numerous close calls but fortunately lived threw them all and never crashed. I love helicopter aerodynamics. Having also flown Jumbos, B767’s, A330’s, Machi Jets etc ... my favorite has always been the good old Huey (Iroquois) .... even though it did almost kill me 6 times.
@berndheiden76304 жыл бұрын
Maybe I overheard or did not find the info in the comments: what was the outcome for pilot and possibly passengers? Excellent explanation!
@mikeferguson28288 ай бұрын
I remember flying at high altitude in our Bell long Ranger air ambulance and we were going in to land on the road cut into the side of the mountain to get directions. We were a little heavy with fuel and about 10 000ft and as we came in and the pilot pulled collective the tail started swinging around to hit the side of the mountain, my pilot who was a really good ex military guy immediately pushed the collective down and pushed us off the side of the mountain picking up speed as we went. I had not even noticed we had a problem. He was so quick otherwise we would have put the tail into the side cut out of the mountain. Skills and experience saved the day.
@alexrod3165 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to one day soon going up to Canada and taking your classes.
@lindagoentzel68125 жыл бұрын
Your are the best instructor! I don't fly yet, but I can't imagine learning from anyone else because YOU have the GIFT! Like Douglas Sykes, I too, understood !!
@BobThePilotN4WFH5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed it. Not a helicopter pilot though it all made sense.
@hansadrvr5 жыл бұрын
Another excellent instructional video. I only fly fixed wing, unfortunately, but fly and instruct in Boeings and I like to watch regularly.
@sparkyranger47374 жыл бұрын
Like lowering the nose in a fixed wing to keep the wings from stalling.
@nancyoffenhiser49164 жыл бұрын
At least as fixed wind pilots we have a buffet and a visual on the angle of attack. Doesn't look like much warning signs in a helicopter that you can feel with your body. No stall buzzer either ..
@markhux72174 жыл бұрын
The low rotor RPM and horn would have come on, the manifold pressure would be up to the limit, the nose would want to rotate, there would be a lot of peddle used...there are a lot of indicators you are running out of power but a power check is the best...
@nancyoffenhiser49164 жыл бұрын
@@markhux7217 thank you so much!!!!
@bell20975 жыл бұрын
Decades ago we called the recovery, getting into clean air. Enjoyed the video, thanks.
@m118lr5 жыл бұрын
Bell 209 ...I’ve used the same terminology (back when I was flying in ‘04-‘05 up in Billings, Mt) BUT it was in regards to ‘Settling with Power’ or Ring Vortex more precisely. Dirty air is when the rotors aren’t able to maintain or gain lift over the blades due to an insufficient amount of power being applied (OGE hover) and the helo in this case starts to settle. Proper technique: Lower collective with forward cyclic moving into cleaner air...
@bell20975 жыл бұрын
@@m118lr your right, running out of power, and vortex ring state are different problems.
@josemadarieta8655 жыл бұрын
@@bell2097 yeah. this wasnt settling with power. he actually had the benefit of the ige ground cushion (although i think its diminished over water vs ground). he just straight up ran out of power. he might have been able to save the day if he could have gotten some air flowing over the disc. but this accident happened way earlier, probably around 1k agl when he decided to show off by making a (kinda) steep approach to hover over the water. its all about power management. one day flying with our brand new ip. oge hover and he's like, hey watch this. he tips the apache 90 degrees on edge and we drop like a rock. i made him clean the shit out of my underwear so i wouldnt report the overtorque (i reported it anyway)
@bell20975 жыл бұрын
@@josemadarieta865 Your right, this was a power issue. Also right about ground effect being reduced over water. And right about power management being a big deal. Hard to believe that IP couldn't controll the cowboy in him, and then wanting to cover up a over torque, glad you reported it. My knee jerk comment missed the point of the video, my bad.
@josemadarieta8655 жыл бұрын
@@bell2097 yeah. he was special. but amazing how i always smoked my check rides with him after that ;)
@phillyphil15134 жыл бұрын
7:18 - cool, here the visual jives with what he's saying.
@Aviyaytor4 жыл бұрын
Fixed wing commercial pilot here. You explained this rotary wing stuff perfectly! I would definitely lessons from you, because you know your sh!$! Thanks for this video!
@maddaug5 жыл бұрын
Hi Mischa, Question: If the pilot had reduced collective would he have been able to settle into ground effect over the water and correct the LTE issue the same time?
@PyroBoysz5 жыл бұрын
Water isn’t great for ground effect sadly! He would have to lower collective and gain airspeed!
@kevinNagel17764 жыл бұрын
Our pilots used to talk about Bad or Dirty Air when the natural flow below the roster changes.. great Video
@Peterrevell-Aotearoa5 жыл бұрын
Q. But what caused it. Hardly any wind, looked like one passenger. An inexperienced question, just curious as to how the engine got into this situation on the video as well as the second example with the fly away. Thank you great video
@iratd1015 жыл бұрын
Possibly high mountain altitude.
@Peterrevell-Aotearoa5 жыл бұрын
Dana Rainey Thank you.
@Da-Creams4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for playing the video at the start.👍
@mikehagan43204 жыл бұрын
Great explanation on flying! I am a teacher sometimes also. Flawless explanation. On another topic. I wouldn't be very happy spending hours getting to a mountain lake to get away from it all and then some Clown flies in with a helicopter. I've hiked and sweated buckets to get to the tops of mountains and had people drive there lazy as*es by illegally on a trail right past me. I've chained my pick up and drove 18 miles in deep snow into the hills to hunt Elk and had groups of snowmobilers with incredibly load pipes going through every tiny trail Also illegally. A little consideration Please. When I was a fairly young Man an old Backpacker told me to "Not Ruin the Wilderness Experience of Others." I've Always Lived by that Rule. Though not always possible. You can wear earth tone clothing and equipment. Not be overly noisy. If someone is at the lake you intended go to. Then go to the next lake. And travel with all of the different modes of transport responsibility, courteously and in the appropriate areas and time frame for your type of transport. Just saying. Good video!
@TheOwenMajor4 жыл бұрын
"Old man shakes sticks and youngins who make too much noise" You need to ease up man, powersports have every right to enjoy nature as you.
@mikehagan43204 жыл бұрын
@@TheOwenMajor If trails have been deemed hiking or horse trails only. Or if snowmobiling in certain areas are off limits during hunting season it is reasonable to expect others to fallow the rules. Some of us have a Great deal of time and money invested in going to the mountains for our activities. I wouldn't go to a popular snowmobiling or ATV area and turn it into a live shooting range and say " Ease up Man!" A little common consideration is reasonable. We live in a crowded World. We can all have our time in the backcountry to do our Thing. Grow up and Think of others. The World isn't all about you.
@troypoff79742 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for These types of educational suggestions. Those who are self taught don't often learn the how too overcome such a situation as rhis one. Thanks again. Troy
@luisruiz24305 жыл бұрын
I first read that description and thought how in the heck did LTE cell phone signal bring down a helicopter 😂
@alwatt93675 жыл бұрын
Sadly I only fly big RC helicopters but you are a great teacher and it also helps us small pilots thank you
@dandymedel67445 жыл бұрын
Pilot Yellow, stay safe, God bless you always!
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again4 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the off topic comment but I really like both of your helicopters. 👍
@axelram55105 жыл бұрын
Plethora of information.. Thanks Misha.
@MichaelBrown-ny3et4 жыл бұрын
When he came to a hover, it was to late. I used to fly Lima model Blackhawks so power wasn’t really a problem. If you’re loaded up and in elevations like Afghanistan, problems begin with the altitude. It wasn’t LTE but it was settling with power. Scary.
@fredbixeljr71245 жыл бұрын
Great video a lot can be learned From accidents
@kimber19115 жыл бұрын
Great job! I am not a helicopter pilot but it makes sense from aerodynamics and physics standpoint!
@chiccoka5 жыл бұрын
its seems similar to stall on fixed wing .push down to recover to gain speed aka lift later.
@josemadarieta8655 жыл бұрын
yes. lower the collective to reduce the "overpitch" and regain rpm in the main rotor and pitch forward (or left/right/back) to get some airflow and get the disc flying again. the main diff between fixed wing and rotor craft is that pesky torque. once the tail rotor stops working you are pretty much out of options except collective full down, which in this case meant taking a swim
@meatloafseagal5713 Жыл бұрын
4 years late to this vid. Avid RC heli pilot here. The same thing happens to us too, these lessons cost far less to us. That said, being able to spot engine bog and let off the collective quickly will save your model. Or lives in your case. Being able to create forward "wing" lift as your motor gets back to rpm is critical. And opposite to everything your mind is telling you. Cool video.
@tomservo50074 жыл бұрын
"McFly, you bojo! Those boards dont work on water unless you got POWER " --Biff's son was right
@56hueycobra5 жыл бұрын
Mischa: Thank You For the GREAT VIDEO and How to RIGHT the Problem Of Over Pitching and LTE Sir!!!
@actionrjackson5 жыл бұрын
Hope that wasn't one of the Schweizers you sold. Great video content. Thank you for sharing. I hope everyone was safe in the end. A water landing is always bad. :( P.S. Andrew hovers better over water. Need to correct this fact 🤣
@davewright30885 ай бұрын
Sailplane pilot here, understood all, thanks..! Left with the question of, if the helo didn't have enough power for controlled hover, how on earth was any of that gear or passengers going to lift off..?!
@deSloleye5 жыл бұрын
Why did this happen, though? The helicopter could hover when it took off and has to be lighter than then. Is this in a place with huge variations of ground level? Would that lake be 5000' higher than the take off point?
@grandenauto32145 жыл бұрын
Not a helicopter guy but I think he explained... power was maxed out so you need to apply forward motion to get wind under the wings/rotors to give lift
@deSloleye5 жыл бұрын
@@grandenauto3214 not really an explanation. The helicopter took off and hovered in the first place. It only got lighter from then. Unless it had a partial engine failure it would start with sufficient power and only get more and more excess power for hovering. Something else changes that means a helicopter that can take off can't hover.
@grandenauto32145 жыл бұрын
deSloleye the engine has the same power but there isn’t enough air getting under the wings to keep it in the air, which is why you want to move forward... get more air under the wings and fly out of it.
@johnhansen81343 жыл бұрын
You’re such a good teacher Mischa! Keep up the great work!
@linehand52464 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why I watched this?! But I feel like I can fly a helicopter now
@tomeaston29624 жыл бұрын
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@TPFXTD3 жыл бұрын
me too i wonder who could loan me a helicopter to try
@chuckswinden16354 жыл бұрын
I,ve never been at the controls of a helicopter but if and when I do, I hope I have an instructor like you..
@sanfranciscobay5 жыл бұрын
Look at the specifications of a Robinson 22 Helicopter. It doesn't have enough power to carry two 250 pound passengers. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_R22
@heifner10634 жыл бұрын
Not a r22
@alexrXX4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a pilot. Don't want to be a pilot, but love your videos. Brilliant detailed explanations of how things work. What pilots should and shouldn't be doing. I suppose it's a lesson in aerodynamics, mechanics, co-ordination and skills.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman4 жыл бұрын
SOMEBODY missed the VERIFY FLOATS INSTALLED step on their checklist....
@rollingstone36524 жыл бұрын
He wasn't supposed to be flying over water.
@edgarmachado60084 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video. I have no helicopter flight experience and I understood everything he said. I would love to train with him.
@christofschafer39215 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if the pilot made it out oft the Helikopter?
@HiTechDiver4 жыл бұрын
Good video. You're calling it over pitching; sounds like what we called settling with power; which we trained for.
@laz2885 жыл бұрын
I always disable LTE and use 3G when hovering over lakes.
@jefffortune24385 жыл бұрын
Loved your explanation. What kind of helicopters are behind you?