Overview of French Gun Laws

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@jean-louisbeaufils5699
@jean-louisbeaufils5699 5 жыл бұрын
It is very little known that French gun laws became so restrictive only very recently. Until 1914 it was legal to own anything, and I mean anything: a private citizen could legally own heavy artillery. Until 1939 small arms were pretty much unregulated as far as I know. And until 1982 you could buy shotguns and .22 pistols and rifles over the counter at most supermarkets. Magazine-fed .22 rifles with scope and silencer.
@Airsoftotaku
@Airsoftotaku 6 жыл бұрын
Here in Taiwan you can own anything except whatever is in used of the police.....the catch is, you won't get any license unless you have some political pull. Or a foreigners with the permission document issued by the ambassadors of your country. So...we can actually see more foreigners with firearms than our civilians. Yes, we, average civilians of Taiwan, are actually of second class.
@fgwjghj3397
@fgwjghj3397 6 жыл бұрын
Still better than my country, you don't need license to buy airsoft gun. In my country, I need to apply license and that take 6 months.
@Airsoftotaku
@Airsoftotaku 6 жыл бұрын
Really? But does your country ever try to pin airsoft as real gun and has banned some of them because of that? We literally have ppl being prosecuted and gone on to criminal record for possessing certain airsoftgun.
@svampkin
@svampkin 6 жыл бұрын
That's actually horrible, and it's what I fear what will happen to Sweden as well. Although it's really difficult to get a firearm unless you're into hunting or got something to do with law enforcement, there's also a lot of political bias when it comes to firearm ownership. Illegal firearms are supposedly easy to get though, even handgrenades, and we all know who makes up for the majority of criminals in Sweden.
@fgwjghj3397
@fgwjghj3397 6 жыл бұрын
Airsoftotaku In my country(Malaysia), airsoft gun are categorized as firearms. Firearm are consider a luxury items in my country, only wealthy people can afford it. If you were middle or low class, don't even think about it. And the wealthy one don't have wait about six months, if they have connection with high ranking official and willing to pay huge amount of money, it take about few days. (Yes, that's call corruption)
@Airsoftotaku
@Airsoftotaku 6 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute! I've never say anything about owning firearm for law enforcement. Because a lot of our policemen and military camp guards are now either carry nothing or just a pain ball gun. Once the disarming train starts even the army and LE won't be able to avoid it.
@wes11bravo
@wes11bravo 4 жыл бұрын
I heard a joke years ago. In heaven: The French are the chefs. The Italians are the lovers. The Germans are the mechanics. The English are the policemen. The Swiss are the administrators. In hell: The English are the chefs. The Swiss are the lovers. The Italians are the mechanics. The Germans are the policemen. The French are the administrators.
@wes11bravo
@wes11bravo 4 жыл бұрын
@proud Dutchman - brother, I remember hearing this in the pre-PC days (not that I'd characterize it as "hateful" or anything) from a family friend. Some of it has its basis in colonialism and is a bit dated, other elements will probably raise a dry smile for Europeans who "get it".
@mrijk1946
@mrijk1946 4 жыл бұрын
Dutch police is worse 👍🏼😉
@yaza862
@yaza862 4 жыл бұрын
French guy here with family all over the world. French administration is. The. Worst
@crazyrobots6565
@crazyrobots6565 4 жыл бұрын
Are Swiss bad lovers? I've never heard that kind of stereotype.
@polishherowitoldpilecki5521
@polishherowitoldpilecki5521 4 жыл бұрын
German could also be administrators crazy amount of beauracracy.
@herbertliedel7019
@herbertliedel7019 3 жыл бұрын
Had some friends from France vacation with me one summer and we shot some of my collection of firearms. Black powder through ARs and H&Ks. When we visited them after the son had just completed his training as a Gendarme. When his class was asked who had ever fired a weapon, he was the only one to respond yes. He said my closet had more firearms than his stations gun locker.
@KBoon
@KBoon 2 жыл бұрын
In France you can order a pre 1900 revolver that takes cartridges and black powder online with zero licenses/hassle/paperwork (aside from ID). Shipped right to your door. You can buy the kit to make the ammo online and a box of black powder at your local armory. All legal. Just don't carry it in public
@tylerchambers6246
@tylerchambers6246 Жыл бұрын
@@KBoon Woohoo pre 1900 gun tech, good as having a first amendment!
@spehhhsssmarineer8961
@spehhhsssmarineer8961 Жыл бұрын
@@KBoon Because guns from before the 1900s *never* killed anyone!
@joeyphillips1181
@joeyphillips1181 Жыл бұрын
That's sad.. I would be embarrassed to be from a country like that lol at least they can own guns there but they have to jump through so many hoops and laws and it's so confusing and restricted that it's insane.. sucks for them.. if our country try's to turn the USA into something like that a civil war would go down
@ExtarDeLaRochebriant
@ExtarDeLaRochebriant 6 жыл бұрын
I'm french and I love firearms, however this is so complicated to own and have fun with weapons legally in here it sucks
@vgman94
@vgman94 6 жыл бұрын
Extar Here in California, things are getting worse as well. It’s sad. The lack of understanding of the need for civilians to be empowered is spread in too many countries. The Czech Republic is the only nation I know of that truly does gun laws correctly. Republicans in the United States are too loose and set bad examples, but the CZR has a balanced idea very few other countries follow.
@ExtarDeLaRochebriant
@ExtarDeLaRochebriant 6 жыл бұрын
thing is with the isis attacks we had here, few people here are complaining and want to be able to carry a handgun in the street "american way" but this is a very sensitive subject here. what i mean by that is, why would you attack in america in a state with "cool" gun laws while you can come in any french city where no one exept cops are carrying weapons ? civilian needs to protect others and themselfs
@BIGBOSS-fx3pn
@BIGBOSS-fx3pn 6 жыл бұрын
Je voudrais que les armes soient légales en France 🔫
@sethleger6105
@sethleger6105 6 жыл бұрын
vgman94 what?republicans try to keep your right to have guns that’s why I am one
@sethleger6105
@sethleger6105 6 жыл бұрын
Extar that’s their way of controlling you
@tomcavasino
@tomcavasino 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, I'm a French shooter and the law did changed, ex-machine guns are now in A category but those who own them can renew their authorisation, they cannot resell it however, and most shotguns ended up in B. Also, the process of surrendering B categories is simple here because one just doesn't OWN his semi auto gun. Theyre is no property rights on a b category gun. You don't technically buy them, you kinda rent them from the government. So any excuse is ok to take the gun away.
@VictorInChains
@VictorInChains 4 жыл бұрын
There's been an update : a gun in B is still in B. But a High capacity magazine (more than 10 rounds for rifles with central percussion cartridges, 30 rounds for rimfire rifles and 20 rounds for handguns) is classified in A category. You can buy and own an A category magazine with a B authorization. What happens : as soon as you plug the A magazine in a B gun, the gun is classified in A category but you're still allowed to shoot it at a shooting range.
@A_Lee87
@A_Lee87 3 жыл бұрын
Dumb German government didn't use the possibility for exceptions in the eudssr gun law and standard capacity mags (10+ for rifles, 20+ for handguns) are prohibited completely, only old ones can be registered but no new ones. Theoretically you can apply for an exception if you need standard capacity mags for competitions in other countries and you can prove that you participated in the past abroad, but practically you won't get the permission.
@The12hugo
@The12hugo 4 жыл бұрын
As a person who lived for years in the US before coming to France, I gotta say it’s pretty frustrating overall to rely on a freaking knife as my home security go-to. Also it’s funny how gun stores are more common in here than in th US.
@MrCracou
@MrCracou 4 жыл бұрын
What's the practical use of "home security"? Need for that is more than incredibly uncommon.
@tylerchambers6246
@tylerchambers6246 Жыл бұрын
@@MrCracou Did you just say the need for home security is uncommon? It's uncommon in rural America, yeah. Just look at ring camera videos to see what uncommon translates into across 400 million people. I mean... I don't even know where to start addressing you. Your comment is simply idiotic. Dude, breaking into houses isn't that uncommon a thing ... Is it uncommon in France, is that what you're talking about?
@hugospence710
@hugospence710 6 жыл бұрын
I am french and I can legally own a six shot cap and ball 44cal, shoot in my backgarden, and keep it loaded on my coffee table, because I'm over eighteen. But if I want a single shot 22flobert pistol... I need a licence deliverd by the local government which takes a looonnng time and is a real pain in the ass to obtain, the only place alowed to shoot it is at proper shooting shooting range, and I am supposed to keep it unloaded, lock in a certified gun safe. Because... it's seems logic I guess.
@hugospence710
@hugospence710 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed, just because it's a pistol and it's a post 1900 pattern. In the other hand you can own a 308 sniper rifle or 12 gauge coach gun pretty easily. You know... laws
@clawhammer704
@clawhammer704 4 жыл бұрын
You guys keep the Italian black powder gun makers in business.
@konar1142
@konar1142 3 жыл бұрын
In Poland completly the same
@RA-ov5cw
@RA-ov5cw 3 жыл бұрын
@@clawhammer704 Indeed. I think that most people who are getting into handgun shooting, are low on budget and want to have fun from the getgo own several of those.
@bobthompson4319
@bobthompson4319 3 жыл бұрын
For those who don't know a 22 flobert is less powerful than the 22 short or the 22cb.
@matthayward7889
@matthayward7889 6 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, as always I’m constantly surprised and gratified by the breadth of knowledge on this channel
@petitponeydu7727
@petitponeydu7727 6 жыл бұрын
"this bureaucratic mess" lol that's completely right !
@cristobaldevicenta9936
@cristobaldevicenta9936 3 жыл бұрын
..Laugh in mass shooting ...
@laos85
@laos85 3 жыл бұрын
You rather have Mass Shooting crime. How nice, but we normal human don't want them where we live
@HDInstrumental1
@HDInstrumental1 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do Czech gun laws? From my perspective, the Czech Republic is actually one of the most gun-friendly countries in Europe. The type of weaponry you can get here is pretty much identical to what you can get in some of the more gun-friendly US states. Funny thing, if you have an authorization to purchase (let's say) a semiauto rifle, you can get SBRs no problem, no NFA-style tax. I happen to own a 12.5" short-stroke piston AR-15. The only thing you have to do to get an authorization to purchase a semiauto rifle (and any B category weapon in general) is to submit a request for authorization at your designated police department along with a ~$10 tax stamp (it's all shall issue, so no problem). 30-round mags, 40-round mags, 100-round mags, no problem, no restrictions, no limits. You can buy them even without a gun license. *we'll see how that turns out after that retarded EU firearms directive gets implemented.
@lucwal67
@lucwal67 2 жыл бұрын
No restrictions on magazines, you mean none at all ? not even a Czech I.D. ? Because if that is the case any European can just drive to Czech Republic and buy a magazine
@CroatiaSurvival
@CroatiaSurvival 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucwal67 You can buy 32rd glock magazines in Croatia no license required, but they’re illegal to use. You can also have any size mags, but you’re not allowed to use them. For hunting it’s 3+1 and for sport shooting is 10+1 for rifles and shotguns. Handguns are limited to 20+1. If you insert a higher capacity mag it’s illegal. The mags themselves are completely legal.
@Devin7Eleven
@Devin7Eleven Жыл бұрын
@@CroatiaSurvivalThat’s… illogical. If you can buy it, why can’t you use it?
@CroatiaSurvival
@CroatiaSurvival Жыл бұрын
@@Devin7Eleven don’t ask me. By law magazines are just pieces of plastic and metal not firearms. So if I buy a 32rd glock mag I would be fine since I own a CZ P10-C, but if my dad who owns a G19 gets it he is a criminal…
@LionofCaliban
@LionofCaliban 6 жыл бұрын
I'm confused as hell. I think after three viewings I'll still have no idea. It's complex, that's for sure. The French never do anything by half measures.
@jorisjamroziak7024
@jorisjamroziak7024 6 жыл бұрын
There Be Game I believe that this is the general idea. People will get confused and just give up getting a firearm.
@MaddeningFly
@MaddeningFly 6 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, there never was much of a "gun culture" in France like in the US. 90% of the weapons we have are for hunting. The rest are collectors or people using weapons in a shooting range, but nobody really considers using weapons as self-defence here, as they do in the US. Hell, I'm not sure any other Western country outside of the US really consider guns to be used for citizens self defence.
@stanfordwillis4841
@stanfordwillis4841 6 жыл бұрын
There Be Game I'm a recreational shooter in France so I'll try to make it simple for y'all. Without a license you can own all d2 class weapons which includes cap and balls weapons (revolvers too), a wide variety of pre 1900 weapons such as m88 or m93 levels, as well as .16 and .12 gauges previous 1900, but the only ammo you'll be allowed to buy will be black powder. Once you get registerd in any shooting range or get a hunting license, you gain access to c cat weapons, yes, it's as easy as that, get your license, get a stamp from your physician and you're all set to buy and own any bolt action rifles, pump action shotguns, lever action weapons, anything that a manual repeater. So mosins, mauser 98k, Springfield 1903 and the like. You can enter any gun shop and leave with a house with very little paperwork. After having received three stamps on your license (minimum waiting period between stamps is 2months) you get access to b category weapons, semi autos and smokeless revolvers. That includes semi ARs and submachine guns, pistols of course. You have to sign up for b category authorisations, one per gun but you can apply for a few authorisations at a time. Max number of stored rounds is a thousand rounds per weapon at a time. Max calibers is 20mm for all categories. A cats are fully autos and explosive weapons or devices. You cannot get an A class weapon as a civilian. Hope that clarifies things a bit.
@stepanmikulica
@stepanmikulica 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, we can carry here in the Czech Republic. We have a very functional system here.
@willemkauffeld7679
@willemkauffeld7679 6 жыл бұрын
Actually not that complex: D (need to be 18+): Pre-1900 firearms, blackpowder firearms, shotguns bought before 2011 (unregistered), airguns with less than 30 joules of power. C (need a license to buy but not to keep/is registred): manual operated weapons (bolt action, pump, lever action...), semi auto rifles with capacity of 5 max. B (needs a lot of paperwork, 12 max): pistols, revolvers, semi autos with capacity up to 30. A ( you can't get): Full auto, explosives
@ceasarspartacus
@ceasarspartacus 6 жыл бұрын
"... because France...." I love it. It's too early to laugh that hard
@ceasarspartacus
@ceasarspartacus 6 жыл бұрын
"12, and then you get your wife a shooting license."
@dgedi78
@dgedi78 6 жыл бұрын
Well, we had complicated laws ,now we have a sandwich of shit EU bread around.
@RA-ov5cw
@RA-ov5cw 3 жыл бұрын
@@ceasarspartacus Mom, dad and grandma ;)
@esrvdb88
@esrvdb88 6 жыл бұрын
The gun law "series" of videos are fascinating.
@simonmaguire5250
@simonmaguire5250 6 жыл бұрын
Still a LOT better than the UK.
@ryanvargas4889
@ryanvargas4889 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah you can lose your license for any arbitrary reason and they come to your house and take your guns. They did this to Callum from the English Shooting KZbin channel, and the YT channel was the very reason they took his license...and all his guns. Search English Shooting on Reddit for the whole story.
@CaptainTomAN94
@CaptainTomAN94 6 жыл бұрын
Well that's the understatement of the century. The UK is currently busy deciding if Steak Knives should be legal. Soon I am sure heavy objects will be banned lol.
@spoonhanz
@spoonhanz 6 жыл бұрын
MrTangolizard yeah he's just chatting shit
@bigmike-
@bigmike- 6 жыл бұрын
Tom Splittstoesser You know, if you guys decided you wanted to keep weapons... you can organize and tell your government to fuck off. We did it once, would recommend.
@xman69100
@xman69100 6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Vargas damn this made Canada look like Texas
@jeyycie3656
@jeyycie3656 6 жыл бұрын
As a french viewer, and sport shooter aficionados, I have to say that this overview of our gun law is pretty well depicted, and apart from some other dangerous objects, Edward have mention pretty much everything there is to know. well done ! And for those who wants a bonus fact, know that it exist a so called " young hunter accompanied licence ", which allows teenagers from 15 years old to hunt and shoot, accompanied with a already experiment hunter, and also the " young competitive shooter licence ", in the case of a young state level competitive shooter ( mostly skeet shooting ), from at least 16 years old, to own, shoot and buy a D or C category firearm, under the responsibility of his legal representative.
@Murtage33e
@Murtage33e 6 жыл бұрын
A system like this would benefit greatly from predictability and rationality. I wouldn't mind putting the time required in if I knew my collection wasn't likely to suddenly become illegal.
@KBoon
@KBoon 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there goes your financial investment...unless the police department pays you reasonable market prices for them.
@beverwyck1
@beverwyck1 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds a lot like NY, CA, NJ, CT, RI, DC and MD
@motorcyclekidd2131
@motorcyclekidd2131 4 жыл бұрын
Shit dude in NY even under the safe act you can still own an AR and, technically thru a loophole, a 30 rounder.
@JoeDiGiovanniIV
@JoeDiGiovanniIV 4 жыл бұрын
RI? no way. I can own basically anything short of the guns that fall under that machine gun act. I can own any size caliber, any size capacity on most any platform. RI doesn't have bad gun laws, the problem comes in if you are trying to obtain a CCW in some municipalities
@RonJeremy514
@RonJeremy514 4 жыл бұрын
Well yes and no. In France, you can own what you would call an SBR as long as it fits the rules (overall length, capacity, etc). No worries, we can still own an AR-15 with 30rd mags, there are no rules yet for 10 rounders or even 5 rounders like CA, but I'm saying "yet" for a reason since we are in the EU.
@alldud13
@alldud13 4 жыл бұрын
beverwyck1 you can still own an AR15 in Maryland
@6yap2
@6yap2 4 жыл бұрын
im in CT :(
@LeFeuauxpoudres
@LeFeuauxpoudres 6 жыл бұрын
Fun facts: Lebel is D2, Berthier 1892 is C! Luger artillerie is B, luger carbine is D! And more crazy with the new law: Lebel is still in D, but deactivated Lebel is now in C!!!
@Zorglub1966
@Zorglub1966 6 жыл бұрын
And now, you need a medical certificate to buy a deactivated weapon!!!!!!!
@LeFeuauxpoudres
@LeFeuauxpoudres 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, totally insane... When I think that the Tchèques said NO to this law... Why we didn't do the same?!
@titiparisien7485
@titiparisien7485 6 жыл бұрын
Because it was the French government that inspired it to the European Union...
@Uryendel
@Uryendel 6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact a marlin 1894 made in 2008 is an antique gun
@LeFeuauxpoudres
@LeFeuauxpoudres 6 жыл бұрын
Oui, le précédent gouvernement avec cazeneuve et Le Roux, qui sont des anti-armes. Le roux qui nous aura bien fait chier alors qu'il est resté que 4 mois au gouvernement...
@k1ngpooh
@k1ngpooh 6 жыл бұрын
Pray for us sinners, gun jesus
@borisbuliak3626
@borisbuliak3626 6 жыл бұрын
Extreme violator here
@lowemichael03
@lowemichael03 5 жыл бұрын
@Heyward Shepherd Of course that's not Jesus Jesus would never have the need for sunblock since he created the Sun Plus in the Bible it says having long hair is a sin
@joshkent4888
@joshkent4888 6 жыл бұрын
I always thought that we (Australia) had the strictest and most stupid firearm laws, but watching this episode and the South Africa episode has really opened my eyes.
@eberbacher007
@eberbacher007 6 жыл бұрын
Just wait if he ever does a German episode of this kind. So you want to shoot 22 long rifle single shot rifles or pistols. Ok, join a gun club and shoot with the gun club rifles on their range for 1 year quite a lot,. Then take a 1 year long course costing thousands of euros to get approved to buy ONE weapon for each discipline you are shooting competitively. Oh and you also need 2 very expensive safes (one for the gun, one for ammunition, and yes they control these things with random inspections by the government) to store gun and ammunition.
@silvanbreeder6501
@silvanbreeder6501 11 ай бұрын
Hi mate, French here proud to call Down under home. I think it really depend which angle you looking at... I found pretty difficult close to nearly impossible to own any semi automatic in AUS unless you're a regional land owner with thorough legit reasons to own one or hunter part of extermination programme (like feral hogs). Exception with hand gun as joining certain shooting club (Cat H) is the requirement but still a paperwork headeach. In France, as long as your part of the French National shooting licencee then semi auto is available to you (Cat B). On the other hand, it is true that is quiet easy to own a lever action shotgun or rifle in Australia than it would be in France. Hunting licence easier to own too. Clay shooting only mostly allow you double barrels sadly
@gusmodelmaker
@gusmodelmaker 6 жыл бұрын
For cat B you'll also need 3 stamps in your shooting logbook per year and the invoice-proof showing you have a safe to store the weapons in. The Gendarmerie was planning to visit my house to check that out in situ, but I cancelled the whole process as I just got a new job in another "state", therefore other "Préfecture"... I'll have to start the whole paper-thing all over again, from scratch, find a new shooting club (now in Paris, places are scarce app.), all this takes time... My preordered SKS in the meantime sleeps at the gunshop, waiting patiently lol
@AaAa-cx3rs
@AaAa-cx3rs 6 жыл бұрын
French "sportive" shooters 2011...145 000 2018...220 000
@chagui5253
@chagui5253 5 жыл бұрын
LA CHANCE
@watferfoot1467
@watferfoot1467 4 жыл бұрын
Les stands de tir sont saturés !
@WizzeeeR
@WizzeeeR 3 жыл бұрын
2030... 5 millions sportive shooters ahaha
@MonsieurX12
@MonsieurX12 6 жыл бұрын
ah France, a country where owning a working gaz mask is as illegal as owning a machinegun
@bilibubule
@bilibubule 6 жыл бұрын
only if it's a military gas mask
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 6 жыл бұрын
Mr.Chamalo But why even bother making that distinction.
6 жыл бұрын
You can own industrial gas masks that would be as protective as military ones. Personal Protection Equipments are allowed to own
@bilibubule
@bilibubule 6 жыл бұрын
because a combat mask isn't the same thing as an hospital/civil one
6 жыл бұрын
Industrial full faces gas masks only differ from military ones by the absence of drinking tubes and voice diaphragms You can get a legit hazmat gear for less than 500 euros
@jancz357
@jancz357 6 жыл бұрын
you need to do this in Czech Republic! :)
@DestroyER82
@DestroyER82 6 жыл бұрын
Czech gun laws are way too simple, pretty fair and made by reasonable govement to be interesting to talk about. ;-)
@MarvinCZ
@MarvinCZ 6 жыл бұрын
+DestroyER82 They are pretty good, but that is exactly the reason why they SHOULD be talked about.
@DestroyER82
@DestroyER82 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was kinda joking in that answer and of course they need to be talked about. Im trying to educate about em everytime I have chance to. (also im pretty often mythbusting bullshits like "its easy to get licence and guns in CZ" and so)
@MarvinCZ
@MarvinCZ 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that.
@jancz357
@jancz357 6 жыл бұрын
guns are still considered privilege here unlike in USA where guns are a right
@si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906
@si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna do Chinese Gun Law for ya 😂 EVERYTHING IS ILLEGAL!!! and...done. It's gonna be a short video lol I mean, can you even imagine, that up till the mid 90s you can buy firearms in hardware stores and now airsoft guns can land you 10 to 15 years in prison.
@si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906
@si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906 6 жыл бұрын
Player Review well, they make a lot of stuff for the world that their own citizens cannot have, like airsoft guns, knives and firearms. Everything before the 1989 revolution was fine, the government was heading to a right direction, like private firearm ownership, freedom of press, all that good stuff. And BAM, the revolution gone wrong, the government got scared and paranoid, and started to restrict everything they can. firearm ownership, freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of information, freedom of assembly, gone. And they are never coming back
@Soff1859
@Soff1859 4 жыл бұрын
During a whole exchange semester in beijing i saw like 10 firearms total. Obviously all in government hands. They are crazy rare. Once i saw a cop with what looked to be some kind of tiny 6-7 shot .25 or .32 pistol in a leather holster. And that guy is pretty much robocop there.
@si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906
@si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906 4 жыл бұрын
Soff1859 and there is a good chance that all those guns were empty. I have a friend that works in Beijing PD. They need two different applications to take the gun and ammo out. And both of them had to be signed by the police chief. So, they'd just apply for the gun, and it's usually enough to scare people off. Most of them don't even know how to use a gun, they get about 100 rounds of live ammunition to practice per year.. and they'd use all of them during the annual qualification. I was in a district PD during their qualification, and my friend told them that I'm a gun owner in America, so I shot qualification for the entire precinct 😂 Btw, their new 9mm revolver shoots like a 22, and it has a manual safety.. and they carry it unloaded, like, why even bother. If you look at the Kunming terrorist attack and Xidan Beijing stabbing, none of the police had guns nor ammo to stop the attack, they literally had to throw themselves in front of the terrorists to save the civilians, noble, but stupid.
@Soff1859
@Soff1859 4 жыл бұрын
@@si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906 interesting. I would have thought the ones who carried a gun would at least be loaded and competent with them. Most guns i saw were magazine fed pump shotguns for cops and qbz95 rifles for soldiers at tiananmen square. But i am sure they would have swat teams quite ready that are actually well armed and trained. They just dont usually use them because the authority of a police uniform would be enough for almost every problem.
@FinalLugiaGuardian
@FinalLugiaGuardian 3 жыл бұрын
I went to school with a guy from The People's Republic of China and his father had a license for a shotgun in China that he used for hunting. Of course his father was a member of the CCP so I think the PRC government probably trusted him more than the average Chinese citizen.
@heavymetalcommy
@heavymetalcommy 6 жыл бұрын
The operative term in the European fire arms legislation is “or stricter” which allows relatively lax guidelines to be punitively applied by the nation states. Hence the UK situation, whilst in the legal framework of the efd they are able to ignore the categories.
@GTHART79
@GTHART79 6 жыл бұрын
It used to be worse due to the banning of all current and former military calibers before 2013. Nowadays .308 / .30-06 / 8x57IS et cetera are legal to own. Not sure about rimfire rifles, they used to be unregulated before 2013 but unaware what their current status is. Great video!
@ajf5150
@ajf5150 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting topic to cover, I especially appreciate you physically going to France in order to bring the information and a flavor of perspective directly from a French person first-hand.
@Yorihime
@Yorihime 6 жыл бұрын
I also wanted to point out the fact (except that this video is now outdated since the 1st August) that there is nearly no real association or lobby really powerful enough to guarantee our rights (without taking into accout the one to shoot ISSF and traditional match way). Except one or two major associations helping to protect gun rights in France, all of the remaining (and influent ones) are trying to satisfy their own comfort. For instance when the government wanted to pass the new law prohibiting converted belt fed machine guns, they just said that it was fine. Except really one association (which is by the way very weak and nothing if we compare to some lobbies in the US). They all said that it was fine but I will not spell their names. Why? Because the firearms community is essentially composed of old person who have often no knowledge about firearms nor care about other things than what they are used to do. They are considering themselves being passionate people but I even saw one asking me what was a FAL at the range when I was shooting with my L1A1 (he had no idea really) and if it was authorized to own (really? Dude). All they want to do is to shoot with their singleshot rifles or "simple stuff". So if they aren't concerned they don't care. Really they are even yelling in some shooting range if you come with a 223 AR15 because it looks scarry and it is too noisy. “It’s an assault rifle a weapon of war and not a sport rifle!!!”. In some shooting ranges you can even see nonsense like prohibition of 338 Lapua due to the fact that they look mean. But you are allowed to shoot any other comparable ammunition. You can’t attach a bayonet on your Mosin in some place even if you say them that it’s useful due to the fact that your rifle is zeroed with the bayonet on (my friend has one of these rifle which tends to shoot off the zero without it). And this is only if you have a range. Because as it was said in the video you can't discharge a B category weapon outside of a FFTir compiling range. And a lot of these ranges are limited to pistol calibers only. In Paris you must go at least to Versailles to shoot with your rifle at more than 100 meters. And it's really expensive and overcrowded. I personally have to use a CMMG Kit (which is B5 category too) on my M16A1 if I just want to shoot it. If I want to discharge it on the original caliber or shoot any of my other rifles I must ask a friend to take me there and pay 20 euros just for a single day. The fact that a lot of people just sign up in a range just to buy "C category" weapons and don't even come again which means that interested people may not be able to join is problematic too. And even if there are free slots you may have to need some form of patronage of a member (or 2 members in some cases). People tends to be really like the frog in the boiling water. They are saying that "ok, I will still be able to own my rifle if I limit it blablabla" and at the end they must give it up. I MUST point out the fact that B weapons are NOT OUR PROPERTY. So the French constitution doesn't even apply about these firearms. They are lent to the shooters for 5 years. There is the huge issue of lack of knowledge of the citizens about their own right. I'm a young student (19 yo to be precise) and I already own a lot of B category firearms (I saved tons of money to just lend firearms lol). And EVERYBODY. I mean really at least 95% of the people that I discussed with about my passion which are firearms weren't even aware that you could own a simple pistol. Even less an AKM or a M16. They often think that I'm lying when I say to them that I own that kind of weapon. The only gun culture here in the younger generations is the one on videogames and airsoft. That's it. This is also why they have no issue on passing such restrictive laws. I must point out the fact that older people don't really welcome young people too. Even gun shops love to say bullshit to sell their stuff. Once I even saw a guy who tried to sell me an overpriced DPMS AR15 with a 16" barrel trying to convince me to buy it because I'm a collector and for him that was the closest thing that you can own to an M4 carbine (Colt 920 and variants). Well really? Are you serious? Some of them don’t even know how a suppressor and muzzle brake work. I even heard a shopkeeper saying that already built weapons like an AI AW and Sako TRG were trash because they are not assembled on “High precision machine” just to sell his custom rifles. He had a gunsmith diploma or whatever of course (I’m not lying) and is well known as a “pro”. The whole thing is if you are new and uninformed you will get ripped off. And if you are interested in, people tends to judge you as being the equivalent of the redneck but in the French version. And if you are REALLY interested you will have difficulties to find a simple place where to shoot. And anyway these new laws pissed me off. I’m already planning on leaving this country and I began looking for airsoft counterparts because now all of the guns that I was interested in were classified in A category since August the 1st. Thanks France. And thanks for not writing the right to keep and bear arms because it was considered as being too obvious when writing the Human Rights.
@boomerisadog3899
@boomerisadog3899 6 жыл бұрын
I love my country (USA) and my state (Tennessee). When I want to shoot my ar-15's or akm's or pistols I go to my property and shoot all I want. If I want to by something it's just a simple background check. As long as you're not a criminal it really is that simple here.
@12vscience
@12vscience 5 жыл бұрын
You tell them. Firearm rights are always being chipped away at. All it takes is for one election, one law, one ruling and they can all be taken away. It is like governments don't know the concept of private property and individual rights. Gun ownership in 1st world nations may devolve to 3rd world status where as a private citizen the only way to keep a gun is illegally. And that's if the government doesn't know it or you or a group is strong enough to keep the government away from you. Similar to gangs, separatist groups, or drug cartels. There are regions in the United States like that called ghettos. In Europe I think they are called "no-go zones." I live in the People's Democratic Republic of Komifornia (California) and the gun laws are becoming even more ridiculous. We have 10 day cool off (waiting periods) after a gun purchase to "protect the public" from an angry person or to help prevent suicide. We have to go through a background check now just to buy ammo. We can have ARs and AKs if they have altered furniture (nonadjustable stock, no pistol grip, no flash hider) if they are centerfire with detachable magazine, even though it does nothing to reduce their lethality. For the longest time we couldn't posses more than 10 round magazines until a judge ruled it unconstitutional. And even then that allowed for around a week of purchasing. Then another judge put that ruling on hold. I don't even know if we can use those 10+ magazines. But we can posses them for the time being. A new law was just signed by the governor to go through a background check just to purchase "precursor parts" which include triggers, barrels, and hand guards. 80% completed lower receivers and frames need to be shipped to a firearms dealer even though they aren't firearms.
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 4 жыл бұрын
Keep fighting and spreading your knowledge! You make the difference! Never give up, never give in
@michaelrocks1529
@michaelrocks1529 4 жыл бұрын
Oui and yes
@sparkablizzy9983
@sparkablizzy9983 4 жыл бұрын
Stop tryma be american when your not have none of those guns.you just named😂😂 i live in america and i dont have a l L1A1 so your communist country deff doesnt let you have one even though its just bolt action😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ruaway
@ruaway 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Édouard we met at the Grenoble meetup, hope you're doing great! Theodore ( the half Brit who has never shot a firearm before !)
@gerarddumoulin7583
@gerarddumoulin7583 4 жыл бұрын
He forget to talk about a few things : 1) Munitions : when you want to purchase any amunition you need to show to the shopkeeper the CURRENT YEAR shooting licence delivered by the shooting federation. So that mean you can buy a gun a certain year (with this year's shooting licence) but the next year, you can't buy anymore bullets until you've renewed your shooting licence. 2) The green paper needed for category B is only stamped by your shooting club if you've done several "controled shootings" over a period of several months (shooting cessions in your club under the supervision of the president of the club to make sure you're actually shooting and have not just pay the registration to get a gun but are not shooting in the club... and you can't do all your controlled shootings in a short period, there must be at least 1 month between each and I think you need 4 sessions )... and like for the shooting licence, this green paper is to be renewed every year, so you have to do the multiple controled shooting every year OR ELSE you don't have your B licence renewed, which means you don't anymore have the right to own category B weapons and you have to sell them ! So it's a bit annoying to do so, in practice, most shooters prefer to stick to C category (no need of the green paper crap) which allows some good enough weapons, for example a 4+1 manual shotgun or a 2+1 semi-automatic shotgun or 9+1 manual carbine. 3) You now need to have an armored chest to store your weapons of category C or above and you cannot store more than 1000 rounds of amunition per year per weapon you own (but you can purchase more than 1000 per year : you can purchase 1000 and when you've used them all you can purchase 1000 more the same year, but you can't store more than 1000 (per gun) at a given time). 4) You can only sell you guns using an approoved (by the government) gun dealer : You can't just pass an ads on Internet or whatever. It's the gun dealer who do all the paperwork which will be sent to the prefecture to inform them of the owner change.
@KBoon
@KBoon 2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather just get a black powder cartridge pre 1900 revolver on an auction site, buy an ammo kit and a box of black powder.
@davidjakiela9553
@davidjakiela9553 3 жыл бұрын
Central and south America also have military calibre restrictions. That's why alot of contractors carry the 38 super.
@yop_cholo
@yop_cholo 6 жыл бұрын
Quick update (I'll try to type more later), but since August 1st, it's become a lot worse. Basically most pump action shotguns have been moved to category B (hard to get with lots of paperwork and only with a sport shooting license, with renewable paperwork every 5 years). B category assault rifles are limited to 10 rounds clips, you can't buy converted military rifles to semi auto, only original civilian versions semi auto... There are other problems, including poor redaction of the law text leaving way too much room to interpretation (not in your favor of course). It's hard to say exactly what will be applied, because administration basically stops working in August, but it's looking bad. :(
@Zorglub1966
@Zorglub1966 6 жыл бұрын
The room to interpretation is willfull, it gives a lot of pretexts to confiscations
@yop_cholo
@yop_cholo 6 жыл бұрын
Zorg Yep. I'm afraid it's the whole point really. :/
@Ragarnoy0
@Ragarnoy0 4 жыл бұрын
You can't buy a rifle with a mag that can hold more than 10 rounds, but you can still buy 30 round mags.
@yop_cholo
@yop_cholo 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ragarnoy0 So if I get this right, you can still buy them, but not use them in a rifle ?
@RA-ov5cw
@RA-ov5cw 3 жыл бұрын
@@yop_cholo So when the magazine is in the rifle the rifle becomes A so you can't own it but still shoot it at the range but when it's removed it goes back to B... Yeah I don't care much, just stick with the 30 rounder... No cop will never enforce this stupid BS. If you get into a traffic stop while going to the range and if he asks you if you have a firearm (really rare) : "Yes sir, I'm going to the range, everything is in order. Have a good day" and fuck off...
@judelarkin2883
@judelarkin2883 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed in most countries outside the very few like the US, the rich people are able to get guns. The B category being a good example. That process is probably expensive and very onerous for a normal person. A rich person just has their lawyer fill out the paperwork. The management at the range and shooting association are probably eager to sign off and a call is probably made when the paperwork is submitted. A normal person probably encounter roadblocks and lack of motivation at each step.
@daktari
@daktari 6 жыл бұрын
To the people saying France has always had harsh gun laws, before 1970 there were basically none, and let's not forget that the Paris Commune in 1871 started because the government wanted to take away howitzers that were owned by Civilians and used to fire at the Prussians. Laws came in because there was a problem of too many unregistered guns floating around, because in part of WWII (supply drops, captures, guns and ammo simply left lying around by the Americans coming through...) and in part because of gangster buying and selling them around the country. Also, C category contains pump action rifles if they have a rifled barrel. Edit: To make things a bit clearer, the Préfecture is the regional headquarters of the Police Nationale/interior ministry, so the American equivalent would be the regional federal building/regional FBI office.
@spearfisherman308
@spearfisherman308 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the problem is the number you can own and how they changed the category for pump shotguns.
@KBoon
@KBoon 2 жыл бұрын
You can still order a pre 1900 revolver that takes black powder in regular cartridges such as 32 S&W with zero license. Just order the gun online (show ID over 18), buy an ammo kit and a box of black powder.
@spearfisherman308
@spearfisherman308 2 жыл бұрын
@@KBoon yeah but my point was that you can get in trouble for staying away from conflict which you would think is the kind of person you would want to be a gun owner.
@willemkauffeld7679
@willemkauffeld7679 6 жыл бұрын
Also interesting note, for a silencer you only need a shooting license. there is no extra restriction
@nicolasg7391
@nicolasg7391 4 жыл бұрын
Actuallly the four categories law can be resume by : - Cat A forbidden to acquire or detain (registered guns) - Cat B needs authorisation and shooting licence to acquire and detain (registered guns) - Cat C needs shooting licence or hunting licence to acquire, then detain is free (registered guns) - Cat D free acquisition and free detain since you turned 18 (unregistered guns)
@KBoon
@KBoon 2 жыл бұрын
Cat A: Forget it Cat B: Hope you're motivated Cat C: Not bad Cat D: Just show your ID
@KBoon
@KBoon 2 жыл бұрын
In France, you can order online a black powder revolver made before 1900 (that takes actual cartridges) shipped right to your door. Then just buy an ammo kit, buy a box of black powder and make your own rounds at home. All legal, no license required. You obviously can't carry it in public premises though.
@BelayaBirdy
@BelayaBirdy 6 жыл бұрын
Well, If I may add my little grain of salt, In facts, you can't own a B category gun in France, the governement let you buy and keep them, but they are property of the governement, and every 5 years, you ask the right to keep them home. Only cat.C and bellow guns are property of the civilian buying them.
@Shadow-ng2ch
@Shadow-ng2ch 2 жыл бұрын
I’m French and I think our gun law are way better than any gun law in the world . Let me explain… Actually I have an ddm4 300blk which is considered as an sbr in the us with foregrip and suppressor , it took me 1 month to get paperwork done to buy all this. In the us waiting time is nearly one year to get all this setup ready. Furthermore I’m glad that not everybody is able to go in the gun shop and buy what they wan(. I think there’s a minimum of background checking that has to be done when talking about firearms. And when you look at statistics, there’s basically no shooting involving sport shooters who bought legally firearms in France
@swedishviking4086
@swedishviking4086 6 жыл бұрын
This is the best English I've ever heard from a Frenchman!
@Leifr57
@Leifr57 4 жыл бұрын
impressing I must say!
@terry7907
@terry7907 3 жыл бұрын
You have apparently not met very many French. Having spent several years working with the French military, I find his fluency unremarkable.
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 3 жыл бұрын
@@terry7907 though very different field, as a programmer myself. Iv met alot very good English speaking French people.
@lezzbmm
@lezzbmm 2 жыл бұрын
25:00 love the discussion abt the scenarios of loss of privileges of gun ownership and the ways those hypotheticals affect owners' headspaces
@frajecz
@frajecz 6 жыл бұрын
I'm quite surprised, as a Czech. I don't find the system to be THAT complicated, we basically have the same categories (A,B,C,D) revolving around how dangerous the guns are, but no subcategories (no B1, D2, etc.). The way to get a license seemed tedious, but that's about it. Here in the Czech Republic you get a "gun owner's ID" ("gun license" is a term reserved for gun shop owners and similar trades) by passing a practical (land your hits anywhere on the target) and theoretical exam (law stuff, weapon categories,...) and a simple health checkup. D - just be 18, can buy freely (black powder stuff, airsoft, paintball, bow, airgun, crossbow, Vetterli, Kropatschek and similar...) C - repeating stuff (bolt-action, pump-action, more than 2-shot black powder guns, etc.), traditional hunting guns (double barrel shotguns, combination guns,... - very popular with Czech gamekeepers) - you must register every gun you buy at your local police department during the next 10 bussiness days, be it from a gunshop or another person B - the usual "modern sporting" guns - basically any semi-auto thing up to .50 BMG you can imagine (except for the afformentioned up to 3 round capacity rifles/shotguns) - you have to get a permit to buy a specific type of gun (semi-auto pistol, revolver, semi-auto rifle, semi-auto shotgun, etc., and after you buy it, registering applies as with C category A - Full-auto, disguised gun, supressors (this is one of the few things we want changed), night vision scopes (stuff that has a reticle), guns that don't have a valid proofmark (old C96 for instance, you can get a special permission from your local police department to buy it and get it approved - just a matter of going to the police department) That said, basically no gun owner I've ever talked to said that he would've liked the system to be like the USA, we are satisfied with it as is and I consider that to be a rare and very good thing. If anyone's curious, I'd definitely love to answer any of your questions or specify some things more in-depth
@super1million11
@super1million11 6 жыл бұрын
your gun laws are definitly more relaxed than some US states.
@jrg3213
@jrg3213 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with European legislation is not how the guns are categorized. It's the disparity between who can own what. There's too much disparity in this matter.
@godefroydebouillon225
@godefroydebouillon225 6 жыл бұрын
By the way when you "own" a b categorie gun you basically don't own it, the government own it and authorize you for 5 years to use it and keep it with an authorisation
@GigAnonymous
@GigAnonymous 6 жыл бұрын
No, you own it. The gvt authorize you to use it and keep it, there's a difference. I'm pretty sure you can have a gunsmith keep your gun for you if your authorization lapse, but I'll have to check.
@blueoval250
@blueoval250 3 жыл бұрын
You think that’s bad? In America we don’t even own our homes. There is a perpetual government lien against your home. If you don’t pay your tax government thugs will put you on the street.
@RA-ov5cw
@RA-ov5cw 3 жыл бұрын
@@GigAnonymous yes you can even store it at the firing range. When I was younger (too young to apply) I had a cz75b without authorization. My shooting range bought it, I paid it and they kept it there for me. But it's not regular practice, you have to know them to do stuff like that...
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 3 жыл бұрын
@@blueoval250 if France you actually own your home.
@blueoval250
@blueoval250 3 жыл бұрын
@@murphy7801 even worse than that is civil asset forfeiture. Law enforcement can seize your property, car, cash, home or all of your assets without charging you with a crime. They just blatantly steal property on a regular basis. To get your property back you have to sue the government at your own expense with no hope of getting the cost of an attorney returned even if you win. The FBI recently seized the property of every person with a safe deposit box at 369 Safe Deposit Boxes. Some of Thad “American freedom” people ignorantly believe.
@eberbacher007
@eberbacher007 6 жыл бұрын
Will Ian ever do such an Interview with a German, it would be fun to see Ians face getting more and more disbelieving
@egilkarlson7253
@egilkarlson7253 6 жыл бұрын
I have SMLE mkiii *, in Category C, a pistol of Beretta 92 in 9mm, Category B. Soon I'll buy a l1a1. It's a B2 weapon, but the caliber, 308, C is a C.
@MBCDC1
@MBCDC1 6 жыл бұрын
Basically here we have again proof on how much our "beloved" governments trust their citizens. In the end it is all about control and preserving of power and not the safety of the citizens. But since we all did and do not enough against such absurd nonsense, we "earn" the gun-laws we have.
@abalcerzak1931
@abalcerzak1931 6 жыл бұрын
The worse is that everyone know that lots of governement people and bosses of big companies, and their families often owns guns illegaly. Lots of people, often old people (as my grand parents) also does but the difference is if a powerful person get caught with a gun, the policeman/gendarme will just get fired
@lukaszpokoju
@lukaszpokoju 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know when this video was shot, but I've heard that the firearms ownership laws in France got even more restrictive very recently.
@dwarfman78
@dwarfman78 6 жыл бұрын
yeah since yesterday more or less
@bartoszbaranowski604
@bartoszbaranowski604 6 жыл бұрын
Do tell.
@dwarfman78
@dwarfman78 6 жыл бұрын
Well it is complicated, basically magazines above 10 rounds are now forbidden as well as weapons which are not semi-auto by design. Pump action shotguns go from the hunting (C) category to the sport shooting (B) which requires authorizations to acquire and detain those guns. It also becomes forbidden to sell any firearm without requiring the service of an authorized intermediate (like a gunsmith). Plus many little things here and there.
@karisvenner3892
@karisvenner3892 6 жыл бұрын
Literally Yesterday, the lesser of a problem Gun Ownership is, the more they regulate it. Known extremists coming back from Ex-Yugoslavia with their trunk full of AK on the other hand, they won't control, that would mean going against the no-border bullshit of the EU, so too bad, I guess we'll keep getting mowed down by terrorists, but hey at least your neighbour can't have a 30+ 22.lr lever action. --' Basically the gist of the new text is : - you can't sell/buy weapons without going through a gun shop. - Neutralised weapons are now C category - Basically all D1 weapons are now C category - Some C category shotgun go into B category based on Magazine and overall length - All automatic weapons modified for semi-auto are now A category and thus verbotten. Those who already have one are spared but can't sell them any more. - Semi-auto rifles under 60cm (with the stock folded) are now A category.
@dwarfman78
@dwarfman78 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah i'm on vacations so i do not know which exact date it is today. So from the 1st of August all the above, plus other things (pepper sprays > 100ml go to the B category too for instance...)
@genevievegrange5786
@genevievegrange5786 4 жыл бұрын
No guys, it's much more simple you seem to beleive. In France if you want a gun you either have to be member of a gun club or be a hunter with a valid hunting licence Membership in a gun club allows you to purchase 12 handguns or semi auto rifles or pump shotguns that you can shoot at the range only and being a hunter allows you to purchase as many rifles (pump, bolt, semi auto) or shotguns you want . Only full auto is prohibited I think it's O.K. Even the USA don't do much better
@OldSkoolWax
@OldSkoolWax 6 жыл бұрын
We're not really allowed guns in Belfast, Ireland, so I've lived vicariously through every one of your videos since 2013. Never stop.
@adampeters5485
@adampeters5485 6 жыл бұрын
Actually, you have more gun options there than the rest of the UK or Ireland: www.young-guns.org.uk/category/departments/handguns/?post_type=products
@marinchapuis8720
@marinchapuis8720 4 жыл бұрын
That doesn't sound very IRA of you, Belfast :(
@OldSkoolWax
@OldSkoolWax 4 жыл бұрын
@@marinchapuis8720 Oh we still have loads, just none of them are legal ;)
@nicolemartelli9033
@nicolemartelli9033 4 жыл бұрын
@@OldSkoolWax scared me there for a sec
@callumscott953
@callumscott953 3 жыл бұрын
well for good reason... lets be honest, if they let you legally have guns you'd all be killing each other within a week ;)
@bdogjr7779
@bdogjr7779 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't hear anything about Concealed Carry. I assume it's a nogo◇¿.
@KBoon
@KBoon 2 жыл бұрын
Forget about that in France. But it's very easy to have a fully functional pre 1900 black powder cartridge revolver at home.
@chubbycatfish4573
@chubbycatfish4573 6 жыл бұрын
I hope you get around to doing Czech gun laws some day. They're one of the best in Europe.
@limpetarch98k
@limpetarch98k 5 жыл бұрын
20:09 " It can all end tommorow " - Edouard Much like the VZ-58 in Canada. Rip CZ-858.
@ADRay1999
@ADRay1999 6 жыл бұрын
When will we have a discussion on Australia’s gun laws?
6 жыл бұрын
Does Ian really do scary videos?
@vgman94
@vgman94 6 жыл бұрын
Discussing a lost cause isn’t really necessary, sadly.
@tommurray8312
@tommurray8312 6 жыл бұрын
be a dull bloody video
@CrazyDog651
@CrazyDog651 6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Dalton Ray I would rather hear about New Zealand’s firearm laws, and I’m from Australia.
@ADRay1999
@ADRay1999 6 жыл бұрын
CrazyDog: are New Zealand’s gun laws similar to Australia or different? Just wondering
@MrPhillyval
@MrPhillyval 3 жыл бұрын
Before 1995, you could buy any shotgun (like a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870) only with ID and without registering or even being part of a shooting club. Between 1995 and 2013, these pump shotguns were placed in the fourth category, but you could never buy one. The prefectures no longer allowed it. Then, from 2013, the laws changed again and we could buy them again, in category B. It was at this time that the rifled-barrel pump shotgun appeared on the market, in category C ( the smoothed barrel gun was in category B). You had to be part of a shooting club to be allowed to purchase category C or B weapons at that time, but acquiring a category C weapon was much simpler: an acquisition declaration was (and still is) sufficient for category C weapons. For a category B weapon, an authorization must be requested from the prefecture. At the time you published this videao, the category D1 (hunting shotguns) had very recently disapeared and these shotguns had been transfered to C category. Remember : you must be a shooter or a hunter to buy a C category weapon. Today, since 2018, if you owe a converted full auto to semi-auto (AR15, for example, M4 or AK47, including converted machine guns), you may keep it with your shooting licence. But you can't buy another one any longer neither sell the one you have to another shooter. If you don't want to keep it anylonger, you have to have it destroyed.
@KBoon
@KBoon 2 жыл бұрын
To get a cat C basically just need a doctor's statement saying you're physically and mentally apt for shooting, and then just sign up at a shooting club. Then you can even get a pump shotgun limited to 2+1. Not the biggest deal ever, but people are lazy. Or just buy a pre 1900 revolver that takes black powder and cartridges and buy an ammo kit online, a box of black powder at your local armory and that's it.
@ArmandKarlsen
@ArmandKarlsen 6 жыл бұрын
5:35 "because France." I LOL'd XD
@qsywastooshort7451
@qsywastooshort7451 6 жыл бұрын
As far as I know the Mle1892 is not in a higher category because of its use by the underworld but simply because of its status as a former military weapon, which is additionally why any 9x19mm pistols will be there like some Mauser C96's and the Parabellum series. The C96 was also used by the French gendarmerie in the 20's but I doubt anyone remembered that when they were drafting the law.
@JonnyAugz
@JonnyAugz 6 жыл бұрын
We really are spoiled here in the states.
@M.M.83-U
@M.M.83-U 6 жыл бұрын
Just a note for the friends followers, Bruxelles is not "them", is "us"; the attempt to uniform the law across UE follow the same legal principle of the uniformation of slavery legislation in all the USA by Lincoln. And Yes, i know as well that ended. By the way, the nation with the higer ratio of gun per person, including machineguns, is Switzerland. Anibody remember the last mass shooting there?
@Spidouz
@Spidouz 6 жыл бұрын
25:59 and for Cat. B you have to be active in a shooting club, meaning you need at least 3 shooting control per year to be able to keep your paperwork for the 5 years duration. If for any reason, you miss one shooting control, you have to surrender your guns... all Cat. B guns.
@cosworth444
@cosworth444 6 жыл бұрын
A CATEGORY, PROHIBITION A1 FIREARMS Automatic handgun (20+ shots) Semi automatic rimfire rifle (30+ shots) Semi automatic centerfire rifle (10+ shots) Folding/telescopic semi automatic firearm (-60 cm folded) Automatic firearm Firearms and ammunitions (20+ mm caliber) Smooth bore shotgun (8+ gauge caliber) Firearm camouflaged as an other object (cane gun for example) A2 MILITARY EQUIPMENT Military equipment for transportation and use of firearms Military equipment used against chemical weapons B CATEGORY, AUTHORIZATION NEEDED (shooting licence + shooting exam) Semi automatic centerfire rifle (3+ shots) Semi automatic rimfire rifle (3+ shots) Bolt action rifle (11+ shots) Rifle (-80 cm total length or -45 cm barrel) Pump action and semiauto smooth bore shotgun (-80 cm total length or -60 cm barrel length) Semi automatic rifle that looks like an automatic rifle Smooth bore pump action shotgun (5+ shots) Firearms chambered in 7,62x39 / 5,56x45 / 5,45x39 / 12,7x99 / 14,5x114 C CATEGORY, DECLARATION NEEDED (shooting or hunting licence) Semi automatic firearm (-20 mm caliber and 3 shots max) Bolt action rifle (11 shots max) 1 shot per barrel firearm Pump action rifled shotgun (5 shots max, 80+ total length and 60+ barrel length and fixed stock) Air rifle (20+ joules) Neutralized firearms (only collector card needed) D CATEGORY, 18+ years needed Knifes, dagger, baton, tranquillizer gun, pepper spray Electric baton, electric brass knuckles Antic firearm (before january 1900 model) Air rifle, paintball rifle (20 joules max) Firearm only for blank, flare gun It's easy !
@thibaudw4496
@thibaudw4496 5 жыл бұрын
In France, even a gas mask or a NVG such as the PVS-14, which are not weapons, are in A category so totally forbidden.
@SNOUPS4
@SNOUPS4 6 жыл бұрын
Très intéressant; merci!
@bobthompson4319
@bobthompson4319 3 жыл бұрын
He's got the uphill target and downhill target backwards. A target on top of a hill isn't something to shoot at because the bullet will fly a long way. A downhill one and the bullet will hit dirt and stop
@schmit6576
@schmit6576 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so early to this video, the French are still feared by everyone
@Tobascodagama
@Tobascodagama 6 жыл бұрын
Once again, Ian, I just want to thank you for taking the time to make these explainer videos about foreign gun laws! Debates are only improved when the facts are clearly stated.
@MrOnyxRaven
@MrOnyxRaven 6 жыл бұрын
So glad the USA has a Second Amendment. I feel bad for our French friends. And all our European friends. They and all people deserve the same rights to arms.
@limpetarch98k
@limpetarch98k 5 жыл бұрын
I've got a bad feeling about the Second Amendement. Ever since El Paso, the AWB is coming up in the debates. Even as a canadian, I hope the AWB doesn't return.
@RA-ov5cw
@RA-ov5cw 3 жыл бұрын
@@limpetarch98k We have the equivalent of the second amendment in the french constitutions but the EU "constition" and "traitees" overpass it... We voted NO to the EU constitution in 2005 but these scumbags ratified it anyway in 2008. If you let these globalist politicians they'll just find a way to fuck you over on about everything.
@Spidouz
@Spidouz 6 жыл бұрын
18:41 the reason 7.62x51 is not considered as “war caliber” in Cat B. is because a lot of hunters are using the .308Win caliber and they could force the Administration to keep it in a Hunter category such Cat. C. The whole “thinking” behind the “war calibers” in Cat. B would be in time of war, civilians could use the military ammo left over. That’s why they focus on calibers such 5.45x39, 5.56x45, 7.62x39, .50BMG and 14.5 Russian.
@siestatime4638
@siestatime4638 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting accent - I would have guessed French-Canadian, not French.
@mrlume9475
@mrlume9475 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting to see how differently the bureaucrats in each country deal with gun ownership. Thanks for posting.
@shadowfoxcorp
@shadowfoxcorp 6 жыл бұрын
Dear God.
@albanerobert
@albanerobert 6 жыл бұрын
Also , you can actually have a fully auto machine gun , it is illegal, but usually if the Gendarmes catch you ,you don't get into too much trouble ! I've seen it happen a few times in Normandy
@chinchenping
@chinchenping 6 жыл бұрын
1:35 france in a nutshell... I'm french BTW
@czechthisout2768
@czechthisout2768 4 жыл бұрын
Did I miss him tell about cat D. Free sale to anyone over 18. No license required. Including black powder revolvers. Tasers-stun guns- peppers sprays- blank firing pistols and rifles that fire blanks or pepper cartridges- asps And even knuckle dusters are all cat D weapons. Free sale to over 18 no license required.
@mathurm100
@mathurm100 6 жыл бұрын
i once went into walmart and bought a Remington 870 shotgun and a case of beer - for no other reason than i could. because 'murrica!
@cheiftain732
@cheiftain732 2 жыл бұрын
In ireland get a northern address and you can have any gun conceled even exept center fire autos rifles .
@Diebulfrog79
@Diebulfrog79 6 жыл бұрын
This is why France has a big black market in weapons.
@damienpeladan481
@damienpeladan481 6 жыл бұрын
nowhere near what it is in the US mate
@jacquesstrapp3219
@jacquesstrapp3219 6 жыл бұрын
Damien Peladan When you can buy weapons legally, there isn't much demand for illegal ones is there? Have you ever been to the US or do you get your information from MSM propaganda?
@planescaped
@planescaped 6 жыл бұрын
@@damienpeladan481 Not sure how much you thought this through...
@Ms.Fowlbwahhh
@Ms.Fowlbwahhh 5 жыл бұрын
Damien Peladan that’s because we have 325 million people and 3 million gang members.
@The10mmcure
@The10mmcure 6 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of these "_____ gun laws" videos, that Lee Greenwood song is playing in my head,I'm not even joking.
@paulstan9828
@paulstan9828 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I would think a country that was occupied during WWII wouldn’t go to this extreme? Maybe I’m wrong with my line of thinking.
@antoinegarcia5602
@antoinegarcia5602 6 жыл бұрын
Most of the regulations in France regarding firearms were instituted before WW2 (1938) or during the occupation around 1941. Obviously they have changed a lot since that time, but these were the first.
@johnbond1992
@johnbond1992 6 жыл бұрын
Merkel is the highest french politican.
@Jmcculloughc1350
@Jmcculloughc1350 6 жыл бұрын
France has always had tight weapon control dating way back to the medieval era because France always had a standing army and had no reason to arm the peasantry. In fact, an armed peasantry was not a good idea. Since the French king could levy a yearly tax and use that to fund an army and thus not need to rely on conscription, no need for weapons. Now the English king did not get to tax the people yearly and being an island nation there was no need for a standing army and so they did rely far more heavily on the levy/militia system. It was actually English law that you had to keep weapons and if you didn't have any weapons in your home you could be fined or arrested. When it came time for firearms it was the county who was partially responsible in making sure there were enough muskets and powder for all in case there was a war. This is where the English and later the founding father's paranoia of standing armies comes from as when England morphed into an empire and then had a need for a standing army it was easy to accuse the standing army as the sword of tyranny and the favoritism towards the militia system of defense since the Founding Fathers really just wanted self governance and not to create an empire. It has nothing to do with WWII, its a cultural thing and in WWII the French Resistance had plenty of weapons from local French and German sources as well as Allied airdrops. I think Ian has talked about a lot of them. And really if you examine a lot of the countries that rise up against oppressive governments probably the largest source of weapons in modern times are those governments as you have troops who defect and bring chunks of the arsenals with them. I'm pretty sure that's what happened in Egypt and well, most of the Middle East during the Arab Spring Revolution things. Revolutionaries always find a way to fight the Revolution.
@Zorglub1966
@Zorglub1966 6 жыл бұрын
which demonstrates the uselessness of a regulation entirely based on ban
@sleepyrasta420
@sleepyrasta420 6 жыл бұрын
If people are unarmed they cant stand up to the government that is what they want, dont let it happen to you guys in the usa
@alexandreb4515
@alexandreb4515 4 жыл бұрын
There's a big misconception at the beggining of this video : Guns aren't forbidden by default and we got some exceptions through the years, by default we had guns, but government take our gun during WWII, and we got some back at the end (but less) and since the laws keep narrowing this right to have guns... At the French Revolution it was so obvious for those who made the Human and Citizens Rigths Declaration that a free citizen need guns (like a 2nd amendment) that they didn't even bothered include it.. they were like come on they'll never give up their guns, we'll be a free country for ever now (maybe they should have...)
@mickleblade
@mickleblade 6 жыл бұрын
lol, the French sure love their paperwork. I sent off to swap my UK driving licence 4 months ago, not heard anything yet. My Carte Sejour is sitting at the Prefecture, they want yet more documents, ones not even specified by the government!
@nunyabeezaxe2030
@nunyabeezaxe2030 3 жыл бұрын
How long did you have to wait in the end?
@mickleblade
@mickleblade 3 жыл бұрын
@@nunyabeezaxe2030 about a year for the driving licence, same for Carte Séjour. After brexit the Cs has changed, guess what? Another year! This was for the rendez-vous that actual card arrived in only 2 weeks.
@deltacharlie4399
@deltacharlie4399 3 жыл бұрын
quick update regarding converted mg in semi auto : un surprisingly it's banned now it should be semi auto from the start + the waiting period is now up to 2/3 years in the cities
@willem7399
@willem7399 3 жыл бұрын
It is bloody rediculous what a citizen has to go through to get a firearm. You can use a tyre lever if you really wanted to kill someone but guns just frighten the crap out of the politicians - they like to have armed bodyguards protecting them but the ordinary citizen must jump a multitude of hoops to be able to own a firearm.
@KBoon
@KBoon 2 жыл бұрын
In France you can get a D2 category pre 1900 revolver that takes black powder cartridges very easily online, no licenses or paperwork.
@Speer788
@Speer788 2 жыл бұрын
@@KBoon Any sites you can recommend for us to check out these black powder guns and cartridge cases for sale?
@baller1661
@baller1661 6 жыл бұрын
On the class A thing, are Private Security Agencies exempt? How about Armored Car companies? What about family inheritance? Surviving Spouse? Parent to child? What's that procedure? Do relatives take possession without registration? Are there any exceptions for any of the stated "Class" categories, such as "Grandfathered In"? i.e: If a person possessed a firearm from before a certain date? I enjoy these videos about other country gun laws. But, it would be nice if the questions above could be asked/answered.
@Zorglub1966
@Zorglub1966 6 жыл бұрын
For professionnal purpose you can have a A or B authorization (military, police, cash conveyor). About inheritance and accidental discovery in the cellar or attic, it must be reported immediately to the prefecture, then you have the choice :1) abandonment to the state for destruction. 2) Déactivation (with the new specs, it's a destruction and you pay for it). 3) Ask for an authorization.=> join a shooting club, after 6 months of practice, do the control shootings, ask for the green sheet. And buy a safe which it's mandatory if you ow A or B firearm.
@jimfogarty6385
@jimfogarty6385 6 жыл бұрын
Wow I thought Canadian gun laws were complicated.
@M4nusky
@M4nusky 6 жыл бұрын
They somehow make more sens now compared to France
@super1million11
@super1million11 6 жыл бұрын
canadian gun laws are nowhere near as strict as people make them out to be infact their laws are laxer than some US states. but i think that mass shooting they just had is gonna turn them into the uk or australia from what i heard
@potatoes5829
@potatoes5829 2 жыл бұрын
@@super1million11 and it happened…
@dwi2921
@dwi2921 2 жыл бұрын
@@potatoes5829 It's not quite that bad. Worse than Australia in some respects, or about the same in others. A lot of things have stayed the same though. Now how long that will last...
@PuddinMcjello
@PuddinMcjello 6 жыл бұрын
Please do more videos like these, I love hearing about other concepts of legal firearm ownership around the world!
@mikesmith8313
@mikesmith8313 Жыл бұрын
I hope not,,how can you listen to two men on a sofa have a chat with you,with no evidence of guns? They look very weird, and I wouldn't be seen dead near these mortuary workers. I f i saw them I'd whip my gun out and 'give it to them' . Comprende?
@Curtislow2
@Curtislow2 6 жыл бұрын
so still 8 cat.
@rjohnson1690
@rjohnson1690 6 жыл бұрын
I’m impressed by that guys English.
@possumsquasher3777
@possumsquasher3777 6 жыл бұрын
European gun laws hurt me right in the 2nd amendment
@sylvainpetiteau5272
@sylvainpetiteau5272 6 жыл бұрын
at least with these laws we dont have several mass shootings every year like you because psychotic people were allowed to buy all the guns they wanted like anyone sane and then shot everyone in schools or cinema cause they heard voices in their head telling them to do so. and sometimes these peoples were know for havin mental trouble. in Europe only the sane peoples can have access to guns
@aenorist2431
@aenorist2431 6 жыл бұрын
Right where you form a milita that can stand up to a modern military. With your peashooter against nukes. Literally everone whos not an american can see how retarded the idea is.
@stealthysteve1
@stealthysteve1 6 жыл бұрын
@@sylvainpetiteau5272 Yeah I need a gun to protect myself from the crazies with guns.
@arno222444
@arno222444 6 жыл бұрын
edbo10 What we do realize is that USA is the one and only developed country having very often mass shootings.
@arno222444
@arno222444 6 жыл бұрын
edbo10 What do you do with an automatic assault rifle against a main battle tank, an helicopter, a bomber....
@paulameloot9380
@paulameloot9380 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, I know that vid was just an overview, but there’s still some important points you didn’t get to, like suppressors, CCW permit, ammo quantity restrictions, « damn calibers » etc... Maybe you could get in a little more details in an other quick video. I can give you info if you want I live in Nantes, France, I’m a long time sport shooter and I speak english. So let me know if you are interested ;)
@kolinmartz
@kolinmartz 5 жыл бұрын
Damn. Is the French government afraid that the guillotine will be active again if they do an unpopular move?
@RA-ov5cw
@RA-ov5cw 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully sooner than later my friend...
@Daferpare
@Daferpare 6 жыл бұрын
Works pretty much the same way in Portugal too. The pre requesites and categories are pretty much the same, except here its almost impossible to get a B licence without being in law enforcement or in the security industry.
@skylongskylong1982
@skylongskylong1982 7 ай бұрын
If you are British, and have residency in Portugal, and had a firearm license in the U.K. how do go about getting a license for a bolt action target rifle in Portugal ? Any Brits or Irish citizens living in Portugal got words of wisdom on the above ?
@Daferpare
@Daferpare 7 ай бұрын
@@skylongskylong1982 well, brexit might have fucked you on that front. There's something called the european firearms pass, that allows you to travel with your firearms to other european member states, and since the UK is no longer part of the EU you're no longer eligible for it (also why someone from Ireland wouldn't have the same challenge as you). To have a portuguese license, I'm quite sure you need portuguese citizenship to get it. Also just as a fyi, in Portugal theres no such thing as getting a license for sporting/recreation, if you want a C/D license (which is what you're looking for, it's rifles and shotguns) you're required go have a hunting license first, which you'll need not only to pay money for but also complete an exam, kinda like a drivers license. My recommendation is contacting your local PSP (police) station (not the GNR, its the PSP that handles this stuff), and maybe also a shooters association for more information. But really, without Portuguese or EU citizenship I think you're out of luck. In the worst case scenario, I think that if you've been a resident for at least 5 years you're eligible for citizenship so that may be a way for you to get your license eventually.
@rich15tiballi57
@rich15tiballi57 6 жыл бұрын
The most important caveat to me is even if your Abel to obtain anyone of these licensees and purchase a firearm if you happen to be a victim in your own home no matter what the circumstances of that event are if you end up defending you or your family's life with said firearm your going to jail period and that to me anyways is the most alarming issue with French law pertains to firearm ownership
@sib1982
@sib1982 6 жыл бұрын
In most european countries self defense laws are garbage. You don't have the right to defend yourself ( basically overpower the attacker ). If he is injured , the law protects him. As the law says , usually a gun has to be in a safe. If it is used, it was not in a safe so you premeditated assault or murdrer by having a weapon ready to use. Even if it's in your own house.
@filip-pi9hy
@filip-pi9hy 6 жыл бұрын
that is true in croatia you need to have licence and then you can use all pistols semi auto semi auto rifle with 3 rounds in mag and semi auto shotgun with 3 round ther is no caliber that you cant use but if you say you own m76 militiery sniper you need to convert you scope to hunter scope not militiry (range scale in scope) and you can own 10 rounds mag but gun need to bee reg on 3 round so is with barrels and other stuff its crazy bad
@filip-pi9hy
@filip-pi9hy 6 жыл бұрын
and you cant use guns for self deffence that is not alowed (excessive use of force)
@GigAnonymous
@GigAnonymous 6 жыл бұрын
You CAN use a gun for self defense... but it has to be proportionate to the attack. Essentially, unless you're firing your gun to actively SAVE a life, you're in the wrong. Then again I don't think a criminal would take the chance if you're waving a 9mm in their face.
@eberbacher007
@eberbacher007 6 жыл бұрын
well that is not 100% true, but in most cases they will argue that you should have run away and that if you had the time to unlock your guns, load them, and shoot the attacker, you could also have run away and alerted the cops
@misfit4816
@misfit4816 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. sucks though. for my 21st birthday i already started saving for an AC556 with the folding stock due to the prominence it held in the A Team as their preferred weapon. Dad is gonna flip haha
@Medschoolsurvivor2022
@Medschoolsurvivor2022 6 жыл бұрын
blacknoise when I purchased my first handgun I didn't tell my folks. I brought it home and kept it in a lock box for 1 month. At the end of the month I gathered them in the room and opened the box. I explained to them that this gun has been here the entire time and hasn't hurt a fly. It isn't the gun... It's the person behind the gun that harms. Ever since then my folks have been super cool and even go to the range with me. I wish you the best of luck and enjoy your new purchase!
@klopmanwinkel8950
@klopmanwinkel8950 6 жыл бұрын
finally a frenchman who speaks english!!!!
@klopmanwinkel8950
@klopmanwinkel8950 6 жыл бұрын
also vind him to have a dutch dialect! almost thinking hee is dutch!
@tonyus8197
@tonyus8197 5 жыл бұрын
Basically...
@M.M.83-U
@M.M.83-U 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. Please do also the italian laws.
@VikGN
@VikGN 6 жыл бұрын
Et vive la France bien sûr :D !
@Ironstalk
@Ironstalk 6 жыл бұрын
je pense qu'il est ironique
@Warptenlololol
@Warptenlololol 6 жыл бұрын
Rofl, oui.
@rogathy
@rogathy 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian. If you want to discuss polish gun laws I'm here to help. Poland is basically Texas of Europe, but at the same it is a country with really small (smallest in Europe) number of guns in civilian possession.
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