"Overview of the K31 series of Rifles- Part 2"

[@jodelboy]

So I bought a K31 at the local gunshop here in Switzerland, with walnut stock and receiver/bolt/barrel which look brand new (cost: 100 swiss francs :D) I am considering now to buy some more of them, just to keep them and once I hopefully will have children, I could give it to them as a gift - oh would that be awesome. What a beautiful piece of history. On my rifle, the leather sling is made in my village, and the rifle itself belonged to a soldier living only a few kilometres away.

[@AA550cord]

Still my favorite military rifle for accuracy. Shot mine in my first VMAR match last weekend. My rifle is much more accurate than I. She performed well in the same condition as I got her. What a machine! I'm going to buy a couple more while their still available.

[@reddevilparatrooper]

I took my K-31 to the range one day with a little bit of Tennesse elevation and Kentucky windage I put 57 rounds into an 8 inch bullseye almost dead center with the exception of 3 rounds . I used was 1970s production RUAG government surplus ammo . This rifle could almost outshoot my Rock Island M1903 . Great video !

[@UCSPanther20]

My brother has one. Its stock is quite rough, but the action is gorgeous and it is a fascinating rifle from a mechanical standpoint - almost as cool as the Canadian Ross action. Very accurate too. It feels more like a precision tool than a battle rifle.

[@flynscot]

Excellent video survey of the Karabiner... I own two also and love them. One other (possibly main)reason for the "beaver chewing" is the configuration of the Swiss soldier's backpack. Trifle was humped essentially between the frame of the pack and the pack itself, with the butt of the rifle prodruding from the bottom of the pack frame just above the soldier's tailbone-- easy to see how it could get whacked around. There is an excellent picture of it on one of the forums.

[@Braun30]

Hit 5 rounds in 30 seconds at 300 metres last saturday, 16 October 2010, on our military targets I got 3-4-5-5-5 the 5 being the bullseye. Open sights, setting 400 and aiming at the base of the black area at the centre of the target, we call it aiming "6 o'klock black". Ammo was military stuff, marked 64, that means produced in 1964. In the end shot 100 rounds to test some shooting programmes, big bruise at the end on right shoulder.

[@AA550cord]

I have the RCBS match die set. They are way nice. The bullet seat alone is fabulous. It makes the seating easy and incredibly accurate. I agree, probably not necessary, but nice to have.

[@bigddazza321]

brought a k31 the other day not easy to get in new zealand and the ammo is very hard to get here had to import the dies from the usa brass i managed to order ppu brass trough a local gunstore which took 6 week to arrive fo i finaly got all the gear and loaded with a 150gn winchester powerpoint shoots great 1moa at 100 yards with ion sights very happy with it so happy in fact that now im looking for a 1911 as i want the pair

[@3OCALM1]

A .443" group @ 100 rocks! I've used IMR-4064 and 4350 for the 7.5 but not the powders you're using. For bullets I've used surplus 173 gr M118 and Sierra 175 MK's. I haven't shot either of mine in a while but these videos have me thinking about it again. I've thought about getting a St. Marie scope mount but wanted to hear what someone else said about them. Very informative set of vids. Thanks for doing them.

[@swissman20]

Being that I am part Swiss, and my dad used one of these when he was in the Army, I need to pick one up. Now to find one...

[@rattinox]

That mount is actually so much better for southpaws, BUT I had to make a sheet aluminum brass deflector for reliable ejection.

[@dwwilliams72]

@semiautoriflelover I think the point of him talking about it;s accuracy is that it is a design that is ~70 years old. If I bought a modern rifle of ANY brand name, I EXPECT to get those kinds of groups. These types of guns are mil surps that were mass produced.

[@swordsman3000]

@troopcom "they" do "they" being Rock Solid Industries....send them your barreled receiver and for about $250 they make and mount it to your gun, it's Picantinny style so you can use better rings, and it also has a nifty little 'tab' that deflects the spent brass away from your scope...But it means your stripper clips become gun-safe decoration some will scoff at "ruining" the historical value, but the K31 is 1 of the few milsurps that looks good with the modern mount / scope

[@Braun30]

Damage on stock comes from the "at ease" position from attention. The idea was that you kept the rifle with your right hand with butt at right foot. When ordered at ease you would spread feet and pass rifle muzzle to a position with both hands keeping it in front of belt buckle. With left foot you were supposed to hit the butt of your comrade's rifle at your left, causing a unison "Krumpp". Do this with with hobnailed shoes, handed out up to 1975, and the gnawing away is explained.

[@spacemanspiff2012]

Nice video! I just bought a K31 last week. It should arrive at the gun shop this week. Can't wait to get out to the range and see how she does. Have you ever tried the Mojo microclick sights? If you could do a review on them, that would be really great.

[@spacemanspiff2012]

The Mojo looked pretty good to me, and they're a whole lot cheaper than a diopter sight. My old eyes don't do that well with the notched sights, but I'm a decent shot with peep sights.

[@serekithegreat]

Damn, I didn't know this rifle was this amazing. Gonna have to get one now. I like the stripper clips too. Definitely sold on this rifle.....

[@mag30th]

@bolijack I called it, bolijack, your only experience with the K31 Swiss was in a video game, just like a mentioned, here are one of your COD posts, “Call of Duty: Modern Warfare bolijack. August 26th, 2010 on 5:07 pm.” Does playing this really hurt your shoulder? Is this where you “won some prizes?”

[@bambam144]

thx so much for those great videos. 'cause i had exactly the problem with the bolt on 6:40 min. greetings from switzerland

[@chuckb666]

@TheSuperspudnik Yep, the sawback bayonet should fit on the K31. I have this (beautiful) bayonet too and 4 K31s on which it fits like a glove. Great stuff!

[@bolijack]

Good vid, congrats! I shot thousands of rounds with the Karabiner31, won some prizes too :-)) The accuracy is just great, only down is the recoil. Never shoot just clad with a light shirt, your shoulder will scream :-((

[@PhotoBobBarker]

Just some basic info for anyone who wants it... When your K31 was made... k31swiss-DOT-com/page1/page5/page5.html And info associated with them (including dates of changes to the model) swissrifles-DOT-com/sr/

[@hamrite]

The series number 951 798 makes it a 1951 model , 23050 of them made that year. Production was to stop 7 years later.

[@dwwilliams72]

That's it!!!!! I want one. I just bought my first K98 this past weekend and I saw a few of these at the gun show in Houston. Didn't really look at them too close because the mauser was what I went for. I had read that the K31 was more accurate, but that didn't deter me from seeking out the 98. I don't recall what they were asking for them though. What kinds of prices do you see these going for in your area? By the way, your videos are great!

[@JTHM3247]

The first rifle I bought was a k-31, it made me very biased very quickly. Of all my rifles, the k-31 is the only one I will NEVER sell or trade.

[@mikebeez]

How are the Lee Dies working out. I heard they are really sized for the older swiss rifles the k31 being a little bit different. Redding makes a die specifically for the K31

[@2902ao]

Now you have really sparked my interest in this rifle. What an accurate gun! Amazing. Does it do even better with Match king?

[@chuckb666]

@TheSuperspudnik Yes, it should fit without any problem. I have this beautiful bayonet and 4 K31s on which it fits like a glove. Go and get a K31 now. You won't regret it.

[@rattinox]

Vihta Vuori 550 rifle powder is superb for the Swiss, especially in cold weather, like Minnesota at -32F.........yeah, I ski and shoot in those conditions......just another insane Swede.

[@mag30th]

@bolijack Well someone is using your handle in COD forums, and the recoil is minimal compaired to most any other 30 cal rifle.

[@troopcom]

It would be nice if they would make a mount that put the scope over the bore.

[@Natesgunstuff]

I would love to see this rifle with one of the 1903 Springfield scopes that are really long it would be awesome looking!

[@TexasLeverGunner]

Awesome vid. I just realized my walnut K31 has a birchwood top guard, lol. I have a question for you, I've heard all other die companies only cut their dies to the 1911 chamber except redding, which cuts theirs to the K31 chamber which is shorter, and that some ammo loaded in say RCBS or Lee dies may fall too far forward and in the chamber and you'll get an FTF. Is this true or is that redding lying to get us to pay 60 dollars for a 2 die set?

[@dizkoteck]

Are there any reports of people squeezing the trigger after not properly closing the bolt?

[@TheSuperspudnik]

hey do you know what bayonet fits the k31 because my great uncle brought back a swiss HSW sawback bayonet dated 1937 from his service in ww2

[@swords13639]

Nice rifle and review. How much do K31's cost now?

[@Raptor1Delta]

What is the height profile on those scope rings? what would be the best choice as far as height is concerned? did you lock-tight the screw on the mount? Does the mount in anyway scratch the finish? I just bought 2 K-31s and 2 of those mounts. I received one of the rifles. The mounts and other rifle are on the way!

[@duncandrake]

I'm a left handed, left eye dominant shooter. Would the optic setup on this rifle still be correct for me? Seems a little too much to the right but maybe i could adjust.

[@sundaystrummer]

This is a question about reloading for the K 31 do you still use your Lee full-length sizing die to do reloading for this rifle or have you moved onto a Redding full-length resizing die? What are your thoughts on the Redding full-length sizing die for the K 31?

[@thespaniard47]

man i am so torn between the mosin, yugo mauser, and the k31. i want cheap but also accurate and good looking. do you have a prefrence?

[@MAROSS396]

Is there a video for field strip and cleaning

[@neddubh4529]

great vid as usual. ever try to fire it dirty? just wondering how far it can be taken as far as reliability goes

[@ninja54380]

Was there a part 3 on this rifle?

[@Piret223]

thanks for your k31 videos....i have try one k31 from gunclub friend. it is a very outstanding rifle. i love it and i will buy one. how much is the ammo cost in usa? greeting from germany

[@barccy]

@Iraqveteran8888 What about Darrell scout mounts for the 91/30 and K31? Have you heard anything about them? I'm thinking about ordering them.

[@jodelboy]

Yeah, I think so! I will go and reserve two more for me, they are just great rifles and for 100 bucks, you get a really nice one (without those ugly boot-stomped stocks which you see on youtube all the time^^). The problem here is to get ammo for that thing. If you are not in a club ("Schützenverein") there is literally no place to buy "cheap" ammo (about 40 raps per shot).

[@jjw5150]

Are we sure the K31 will fire when you demonstrate the bolt not in full battery? I mean I don't want to find out... I have a few k31's. And in my early "ignorant" milsurp rifle collecting days, I am almost positive I have dropped the hammer with the bolt in this position and the rifle did not discharge. Now I am not saying this happened for a fact and I am not saying doing this is safe. I or maybe somebody might try it on an empty primed cartrige?

[@2902ao]

I was never too interested in the Rubins before because I have old reloading books that said they were weak actions, blah blah, blah....now I see those old books are wrong. Maybe they were refering to the oldest models? I dunno.

[@MinhVu-in9iz]

Dragon brothers yes the original Rubins, 1889 rifle action is weak but the redesign 1896/11 and 1911 are made for the GP-11 round or 7.5x55 .

[@Red_Proton]

wait, you can reload 7.5x55 Swiss with any .308/7.62 bullets? are modifications necessary?

[@JohnBrowningsGhost]

+Norman Kellison nope standard 308 caliber bullets work fine

[@touge242]

that's it. I'm getting my hands on one even if I have to go to jail to fund it.

[@hobojoe357]

Dude, your serial number is pretty cool.

[@memorymix8884]

do you need a license to buy the items needed to make your own bullets? (in America)

[@billybob79gr]

+mong morg No. I believe you can even sell bullets without a license as long as you aren't exporting them.

[@memorymix8884]

+A Endsley alrighty thanks!

[@horkinyorkin]

frozen snow? A follower is not called a floor plate. What a mess.

[@bones020694]

@Piret223 what are the gun laws like in Germany?

[@TheSuperspudnik]

@chuckb666 yup i found out for myself christmas eve my papa bought the one i was looking at for a couple months at cabela's and it fits nicely with it the K31 is beautifull and is beechwood and has the troop tag

[@majajh]

Graf makes good brass.

[@norwegianwiking]

Allways use good steel rings when mounting scopes, cheap, low grade and\or "tactically light" aluminum rings and bases are complete crap.

[@ECTBWHO]

NICE!

[@mag30th]

@bolijack Seriously? You are complaining about the recoil of the K31 Swiss? It is one of the lightest recoiling 30 cal's around comparable to an Enfield. On my post where you were mocking my marksmanship, I say it again here, I honestly don’t believe that you have much, if any, experience with these rifles at all, in fact, I wouldn’t doubt your "thousands of rounds" you claim fired were in a video game. Again, I look forward to you (Bolijack) posting some of your stuff.

[@UniteForgetLeftRight]

ammo is pretty cheap i just bought 40 rounds for $25 at a gun show, originally the guy wanted $35 but i haggled him because he knew he would have a hard time finding someone else to unload it on

[@Robin6512]

Damn seeing this just reminds me of being stupid enough too sell mine. Think I have to buy anew one.

[@Needaraygun]

hey wo hesch se kauft? Sueche au en k31

[@RabeHK]

we still keep our personal weapons at home ;)

[@TheRusty58]

I shoot from time to time with the army K31 of my father which did military service with this rifle until 1978. To hit a 20 centimeter target at a distance of 300 meters is also without scope not a masterpiece with this rifle. A 20 cm target corresponds to a four on the Swiss B-4 orderly target. Regards from Switzerland

[@TexasLeverGunner]

Alright, thanks. I might ask for a set of dies for X-mas along with my lymans great plains hunter in 54 cal I'm getting. I really want to shoot this thing more, but I also want to hunt with but I want to hunt with my mauser to. lol. It sucks when you have so many guns you can't even decide what you want to hunt with... but thats where hog hunting comes in so I can kill as many as like. lol

[@8thman420]

you sound like that guy from eastbound and down

[@ENTERPRISE1942]

If ya ever do Im in the market for one ^^

[@jacoklopper4772]

You know.