The Real Stars and Scale of Sci-fi

Some of the franchises mentioned: Star Trek, The Martian, Dune, Bobiverse, Halo, Mass Effect, Firefly, Serenity, Stargate, Guardians of the Galaxy, Known Space, Hyperion, The Expanse, Foundation, and A Fire Upon the Deep.
Thanks to ‪@MrHulthen‬ for the Mass Effect music. Check it out and his channel here: www.youtube.co...
CORRECTIONS:
There is an error in the depiction of the tilt of the earth: it is tilted away from the galactic core, not towards it. I am publishing a high-resolution standalone video of the galactic scale animation soon.
Also, in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, it was a fictional Voyager 6 launched in 1999 that then fell into a wormhole. But still unlikely that there's a wormhole hanging out outside the solar system...
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
00:43 - Star Wars
02:25 - Voyager 1
03:15 - Galactic Scale
04:45 - Intergalactic Scale
05:13 - Andromeda
06:10 - Stargate
08:48 - Starship Troopers
09:11 - Foundation
10:17 - A Fire Upon the Deep
10:59 - Star Trek Galaxy
12:21 - 1000 Lightyears
16:29 - 100 Lightyears
26:00 - Firefly/Serenity
29:40 - Dune
31:21 - Known Space
33:16 - Bobiverse
34:09 - Homo Sideria
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SCIENTIFIC SOURCES
The data used for the star positions are the astronexus AT-HYG and HYG 3.5 databases.
github.com/ast...
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Oort Cloud:
en.wikipedia.o...
arxiv.org/abs/...
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www.universeto...
Sol 26,000 lightyears from the core: ui.adsabs.harv...
Size of the Milkyway:
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2,000,000,000,000 Galaxies:
iopscience.iop...
Sagittarius A*:
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Betelgeuse Supernova:
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ATTRIBUTION
"Stargate - USS Daedalus | BC-304" (skfb.ly/o8pJw) by NepsterCZ is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike
"Star Wars Bantha Walk" (skfb.ly/ov9Sp) by michael50 is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution
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LEGAL-ISH DISCLAIMER
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[@isaacarthurSFIA]

Great video! As best as I can tell it's pronounced 'eck-you-men-op-oh-lis' though I used to pronounce it 'you-kuh-men-op-oh-lis' a lot.

[@elmoteroloco]

(respectfully) almost perfect 'eck-uh-men-op-oh-lis' and you got it

[@shizsker54]

Hi Isaac Arthur 👋

[@keithwinget6521]

@@OverviewEffectsImmediately, you got IsaacArthur. lol It's a small universe, this internet...

[@DerMacko]

why not eh.cue.me(h).noh.polis, like i dont think the c sits in the same syllable with the starting e, and the latter part 'polis' is a greek word on its own (eg acropolis). (also metropolis, same thing) but anyways, hi dude! Looking for some inspiration for new vids? :D

[@Brian-yk5kx]

@@OverviewEffects You made a great video and its awesome to have Isaac comment.

[@lordpoundcake2317]

I love the constant use of the Mass Effect star map. This little melody will always and forever be ingrained in my soul.

[@Alftura]

so fitting for a video like this!

[@nimblehuman]

Still rockin the N7 on my car, this music really is burned into my soul too (and my son who watched me play the game, a gamer now in his own right)

[@wolfieinu]

It honestly makes me want to replay the whole trilogy XD

[@CaptainBanjo-fw4fq]

Ditto. I thought it a cool feature

[@ScottServais-poet]

I used to just leave the star map open and listen to it sometimes. Especially how the music changed depending on your zoom level

[@firesonic1010]

15:40 the Pleiades are also called "Subaru" in Japanese, and are where the Subaru car company gets its iconic name and logo from.

[@theSpian1]

Plenty of star references in Re:Zero, and the main protagonist goes by the name of Natsuki Subaru.

[@Zissou42]

The Pleiades are also known as Yuri Alpha, Lupusregina Beta, Narberal Gamma, CZ2128 Delta, Solution Epsilon, Entoma Vasilissa Zeta, and Aureole Omega.

[@joshr8666]

Woah, i didnt know that.

[@lechatrelou6393]

​@@Zissou42Do they orbit around a mysterious, unobserved entity akin to magic ?

[@danielbriones2938]

​@@theSpian1 Betelgeuse too then huh

[@LuDux]

30:42 Actually spice melange allows navigators to see the future and avoid obstacles in spacehip's path. Folding is done by Holtzman Engine

[@jimbojones9665]

This.

[@jennymckinnon9528]

@@jimbojones9665I’ll ever forgive Lynch for this

[@JannPoo]

I paused the video immediately just to see if anyone had already corrected that mistake.

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

I mean he made the mistake of saying System Shock takes place in Tau Seti, when System Shock takes place in orbit over Saturn. System Shock 2 takes place somewhere near Tau Seti, or at least somewhere close to it since that's where the ship picked up The Many and the fragment of SHODAN.

[@WolfWalrus]

The confusion comes from the opening narration of the 1984 _Dune_ movie, in which Princess Irulan says "The spacing guild and its navigators [...] use the orange spice gas, which gives them the ability to fold space,"

[@GregConquest]

@11:14 Star Trek Voyager was not canceled. It ran for seven seasons, and the conclusion was when they got home and their voyage ended. I do think that the ending seemed rushed, but there's nothing I can find that indicates a quick ending was written because the series was ending before the writers were ready.

[@IamJustJ.]

Agreed. Voyager, TNG, and DS9 were always intended to be 7 series in length. Saying it was cancelled is inaccurate and misleading. It was always going to end there. The *only* variable was whether or not Voyager was going to return home at the end (and it was shot with both endings so people wouldn't know until it aired what the conclusion was).

[@GregConquest]

@@IamJustJ. I didn't know there were two endings filmed. That seems to make the perceived rushed ending more likely to have actually been true. The last years on the ship were VERY cursively dealt with in the show. If the writers had foreseen the compressed last ten years(?) of the journey, then they could have had Q just throw them ten years father into the future -- or the Borg jump, Kes throw, or whatever other times they had hyper-velocity surges.

[@zxKAOS1]

I'm not aware of the details behind if it got cancelled or ran its course. The video made it sound like "we need to wrap things up", so, "the 30K light year boost" if that were the case.

[@stefansigmund1822]

@@IamJustJ.wow, didn’t know about the alternative ending. Can it be watched somewhere?

[@wowplayer160]

@@zxKAOS1 It sure seemed that way. The fact they even got a 'boost' in the first place was ridiculous.

[@Dung30n]

That Mass Effect scanning/map music is just *chefs kiss*. never gets old.

[@VoidLantadd]

I heard the music and spent a minute trying to work out why it was making me feel so much nostalgia.

[@VoidLantadd]

@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist0 Repent to the Reapers

[@lettherebedragons8885]

Sooo beautiful ❤

[@rapidrotation]

Vigil and the map OST are two of the best tracks in all of scifi gaming

[@crYzook]

​@RepentandbelieveinJesusChrist0repent to the machine gods for they shall return to harvest all life. Their numbers will darken the sky of every world. You exist because they allow it & you will end because they demand it. RTEPENT! THE END IS NIGH.

[@ronin7997]

Loved the effort to show these locations along the z-axis. Many sci-fi maps rarely take into account the "depth" of galaxies, so this was a fantastic element of your presentation.

[@NeneExists]

You can thank Elite for that, back in the 80s

[@wesandell]

Like Khan, most people have "a pattern of 2 dimensional thinking", due to lack of experience.

[@studlord9970]

In Star Trek: The Motion Picture it was explained that the Voyager 6 probe was lost when it fell into an anomoly (referred to in the movie as a "black hole", but now canonically assumed to be an unstable wormhole), and emerged on the other side of the galaxy. There it encountered a race of intelligent machines which repaired and upgraded it, and sent it back towards Earth. This explains how it travelled so far in such a short amount of time.

[@jacquestube]

I don't care for retcons where they tie everything together ​@@XX-qf5zj

[@Asfgxff]

@@XX-qf5zjWhat's the book? Sounds interesting.

[@mitchlogan4796]

@@Asfgxff It is "The Return", one of the weird Trek novels written by William Shatner. It is goofy but entertaining.

[@JFrazer4303]

It's always been canon that it was Voyager 6 - which of course we never made.

[@epicsmashman6806]

Also canon that it travelled back in time, possibly millions of years

[@LeftIsBest001]

It's interesting that even with Warp Drive and other 22nd-24th Century technology, the entire Star Trek universe is still completely contained within certain defined regions of our Milky Way Galaxy.

[@sentientmop317]

It's so nice seeing the bobiverse even being mentioned

[@longshot7601]

I thank this video for introducing me to the Bobiverse. I bought the audiobook in hopes of listening to it on my drive to and from work. That proved to be exceedingly dangerous as I found my mind wandering into the Bobiverse and out of surounding traffic. The voice actor is excellent. Now listening to it is a home only activity.

[@dl5244]

@@longshot7601 you are in for a treat with this series! (4 books and a 5th coming later this year)

[@samuelgreene8613]

My very 1st audio book on audible was We Are Legion and that was years ago and hundreds of books later! I still miss Bob, Riker and the gang of probes! Check out the skippy universe if you are a trek fan!

[@ryer9646]

I would love nothing but for this series to get more attention than it is (and for Audible to stop dicking around with it's release schedule. Book 5 is done and recorded... Why the fuck are you waiting until September?). It's such a fun and lighthearted series that still manages to have a lot more depth and emotion than you would expect.

[@seanknox5785]

Best book ever.

[@The_Pariah]

Did anyone else notice the "RIP Pluto" at the very beginning in the solar system zoom out? Love it.

[@beflyaudio]

I chuckled :D

[@nikkibrowning4546]

The offense no millennial will ever forgive.

[@AndrewRowland-j1h]

I did

[@pelijer]

When are we going to move on? Pluto is dead to me. I'll call Pluto a planet when we're willing to do the same for Ceres

[@beflyaudio]

​@@pelijer Its a sentimental thing. Little boy Pluto gets to stand with the major leagues. Obviously there is no issue with it, never was. But its nice to think that there is more to our solar system than gets talked about most of the time.

[@morenofranco9235]

This is a LOT of work. Painstakingly detailed. Well done.

[@OverviewEffects]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Noqtis]

Imagine how much work it took creating all that stuff? Amukparatuk, the creator of the universe is truly amazing. To create so much stuff he needed lots of women obviously. Truly a chad. Not like the abrahamic virgin god who creates everything out of nothing. that shit makes zero sense!

[@harriehausenman8623]

So true.

[@davemittner5911]

One correction. It's said in Stargate that the constellations used for coordinates are specifically from the perspective of Earth. So there might still be problems here and there with the idea, but not the problem as described in the video. (the Ancients, who made the gates, were primarily based on Earth)

[@alexyip1200]

Tbh unless they're traveling far away from the solar system, using constellation as navigation should still work. They wouldn't change very much due to how large a scale they are.

[@electricnick260]

​@@alexyip1200, yep, but don't forget that while the Stargate addresses were based off of their relative position in Earth's sky, the gate had its own sort of automatic calibration mechanism, which would ensure that even if the physical position of the gate changed (as they would most certainly do over time) the majority of gates would automatically recalibrate so that the same symbols would work no matter what. If I'm not mistaken, the only Stargate that couldn't automatically recalibrate after shifting locations, was the Earth gate because of the SGC using a custom DHD. Also remember that the Goa'uld basically just "acquired" the technology. They used star charts they found from the Ancients to figure out what the coordinates were.

[@stevoyd]

Regarding the Stargate bit about 2D representations of star clusters forming symbols; This is intentional to be a 2D representation because the seventh symbol (unless 8 for the galaxy jumps) is the point of origin. The gate builders were “ancients” that existed on earth. So they mapped the stars from the perspective of earth and then created a unique symbol for each gate to have its “origin” symbol for dialling out. Therefore the symbols would differ from gate to gate, which is often mentioned in SG1, and one of their pre-mission objects was to send the M.A.L.P through to determine if there was a DHD (dial home device) and ascertain what the origin symbol was, and what the return coordinates would be to gate from that planet to earth.

[@03silvercobra]

Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis are still my go to re-runs when nothing good is on. At this point, it’s like every day! Never gets old.

[@lettherebedragons8885]

I ❤ Stargate

[@stevoyd]

@@03silvercobraSame! I have the SG1 complete box set... the only reason why I have a DVD player still.

[@mustashman260]

I remember seeing the original movie in the theaters when it came out. I was instantly hooked. Then when the SG1 series came out I never missed an episode. My absolute favorite series! Two of my favorite episodes: S4 E6 “Window of Opportunity” which is like Groundhog Day and Atlantis S2 E14 “Grace Under Pressure” where McKay sees Colonel Carter in the sinking puddle jumper!

[@krucker1045]

​@mustashman260 "Window of Opportunity" is one my favorite SG-1 episode as well

[@grandreefer]

As a sci-fi super nerd, I just gotta say, this video is amazing. Love how it uses locations a lot of us have watched or gamed in and actually provides some sense of scale based on those points of interest. Just such a really good idea.

[@Zikar]

Why is there something so incredible about Captain Picard saying the name of star systems? The way Patrick Stewart says them, like "I know where this is, and you know where this is because this is a log for my superiors" just gives them such a sense of solidity.

[@QuartuvLarry]

The Seven Sisters is what you fly past in the opening title to the latter TNG seasons

[@leewightman8619]

That man can make anything sound cool

[@cjc363636]

@@leewightman8619 That Royal Shakespearian stage training for sure! Why he works so well with Ian McKellen and David Warner, RSC veterans.

[@CesarinPillinGaming]

@@leewightman8619 I remember when him and Ian McKellen both were tasked to read instructions from a kitchen oven and make it sound interesting.

[@marciusnhasty]

Skill. Just like Rowan Atkinson can make any word sound ridiculous. Some actors just know how to add specific desired property to the words themselves, allowing for less explanation and old golden rule "show, don't tell". Shows lacking actors with that skill, way to often get stuck in overexplaining everything.

[@Martian2607]

*40k fans seething in the corner

[@giuseppenaylor]

Omg so true. Not speaking of the master of humanity?! Sin!

[@player1playforfun]

Cadia stands!

[@jonskowitz]

I'm pretty sure he didn't want the video to be 7 hours long 😅

[@giuseppenaylor]

@@jonskowitz HERESY! It will be as long as the Master of Mankind has required. Have the tech priests burn more incense….

[@PeterTschappler]

Dope pfp

[@fierylightning3422]

The fact that both harvest and reach are less than 20 light years away is insane

[@spartanhawk7637]

Honestly explains why the standard procedure for escaping the Covenant was to jump *away* from Sol, lose the pursuing fleet, then jump back to Sol.

[@xcfjdyrkdtulkgfilhu]

Makes the covies look pretty dumb for being stymied as to the locations of Reach and Earth for the first 20-25 years of the war, instead of just figuring human FTL was comparatively primitive and sending some scout ships to the immediate stellar neighbourhood of Harvest and Arcadia after finding those colonies first. Although I guess a certain degree of plot-motivated stupidity is consistent with their ruling triad's mental state.

[@fierylightning3422]

@@spartanhawk7637 there's 2 problems though. Canonically Reach was at Earth's Doorstep while Harvest was a far off fringe colony. secondly if harvest was as close to earth as reach was then humanity would not have survived for 27 years in the war. they would have instantly died in a few weeks because of those distances.

[@Bary_McCokner]

Remember Reach.

[@spartanhawk7637]

@@fierylightning3422 Another comment explained the answer to the first issue, and the second issue was explained by Halo 2. The distance issue with Harvest being a fringe colony is due to the way UNSC slipspace drives worked up until the 343 games. Effectively they brute force tore open holes in the fabric of space-time, so rather than having a wormhole open up, it was more like a series of wormholes which would *eventually* lead to the target destination. Less like the "folded piece of paper" method, more like crumpling the paper into a ball. As for the Covenant not reaching Earth earlier, they literally didn't know Earth *existed* till Guilty Spark brought the Prophet of Regret there. Why would you randomly assume some planet in the middle of nowhere is your mortal enemy's home planet?

[@SeleniumGlow]

Bro. Hats off to you for doing this much of data collection and collation to make sense of all of it and then to visualize it to boot. I wish I had even 1% of enthusiasm as this to do anything in life.

[@concept5631]

Same

[@lightyearsawaythejourneyaf6144]

very interesting, especially for science fiction fans and authors. Thanks for the video 👩‍🚀

[@Frank_theWitch]

THIS. This is why we're on youtube. Such a great, educational, fun, surprising and entertaining video. You sir are a great content creator, watched your channel: You should create more. You are very talented.

[@HyperlordB]

No battletech/mechwarrior locations I noticed, popped into my mind when Eridani was mentioned.

[@gchecosse]

The Eridani Light Horse

[@andrewsan1997]

Same

[@jeremyleeshields9721]

No stompies :(

[@anonymous-zo5ml]

Something that is somewhat worth mentioning. In Halo: First Strike, Tau Ceti was the location of the covenant mobile repair and refit station Unyielding Hierophant, as well as an invasion fleet of over 500 ships manned by brutes under direct command of the Prophet of Truth for the invasion of Earth. Sometime after the events of Halo: CE, the survivors of the PoA come across the fleet and detonate the refit station, taking all but 12 ships with it while the UNSC survivors retreat to Earth aboard the Gettysberg.

[@chief1721]

I was expecting a Halo mentioning when Tau Ceti came up, but could not remember why. thanks for the help.

[@chief1721]

I was expecting a Halo mentioning when Tau Ceti came up, but could not remember why. thanks for the help.

[@chief1721]

I was expecting a Halo mentioning when Tau Ceti came up, but could not remember why. thanks for the help.

[@bahlalthewatcher4790]

Probably more significantly, Halo is the spiritual sequel to the Marathon series, which began at a human colony at Tau Ceti. The player never returns to Tau Ceti after the first game (the second and third games are set in a fictional alien system). But the new Marathon game that's supposedly coming next year is apparently going to be set entirely among the ruins of the Tau Ceti colony.

[@theaveragefryingpan]

I was expecting a Halo mentioning when Tau Ceti came up, but could not remember why. thanks for the help.

[@wh1ter0se]

The Homo Sideria speech at the end gave me goosebumps. As an astronomy nerd i've always been looked down upon and told repeatedly to "ground myself" and bring my mind back from space by people around me. That doesn't stop me or my interests in any way, but it certainly is a relief to hear some good words about our cosmic interests :) Thank you for the amazing research and stellar video, you earned my subscribe

[@ruthmckay9086]

"Ground yourself"?! How rude. Why do people think they're entitled to an opinion on your interests? You are harming nobody, why the problem? It seems that people with limited imaginations and the wilfully blinkered believe that everyone should live like that, and they get upset when they find otherwise. Furthermore, they probably couldn't imagine such a thing, but you are perfectly capable of being 'grounded' and looking up at the stars, all at the same time! Good luck, and never stop looking up and wondering .

[@philosotree5876]

It's because humans are prone to being monsterous scumbags that hate anything and everything that isn't like them because it makes them feel powerful.@@ruthmckay9086

[@SomebodyHere-cm8dj]

well here's a random fact to cheer you up: if Rigel or Betelguese were within 100ly of Earth, they'd be brighter than Venus, be visible during the day and cast shadows

[@icosthop9998]

@wh2ter0se You are among family here 💙🤗💙

[@jamieroko]

Love this 👍👍❤️

[@ryang8040]

Hearing the Mass Effect music in the background warms my heart.

[@МаксимБумбумбум]

yeah best one

[@ibezjak007]

I was searching for someone else who noticed it.. Awesome

[@davids5566]

Yes.

[@JJSAccount-m5t]

I thought that's what that was.

[@lawfulgoodgaming]

You forgot the greatest sci-fi space saga of all time: SPACE BALLS

[@doctordogelordtmg9637]

Hell yeah

[@randydewees7338]

The Ford Galaxy, Space Ball, and Druidia. Where did Yogurt live?

[@R0bertCc]

"Use the Schwartz!!!!..."

[@randydewees7338]

@@R0bertCc "He got the upside, I got the downside, there's two sides to every Schwartz"

[@niodix]

I thought the gratest was "gay n****rs from outer space"

[@jonathandevries2828]

"the edges of any galaxy are a bit nebulous" was on the fence about subscribing...this line pushed me over!

[@Nicolau_Flamel]

Is it a reference? 😅

[@jonathandevries2828]

@@Nicolau_Flamel No i just love puns!

[@jonathandevries2828]

@@CaptainPilipinas umm...wha-....what?

[@burmecian123]

My star wars galaxy name: The Farfara Way.

[@HostileTakeover2]

Using the music from the map system in Mass Effect was brilliant!

[@jg5571]

Voyager was never cancelled. All three shows in the 90’s were seven season shows. That was the intention from the beginning.

[@spartanhawk7637]

Dude, you made a childhood dream come true with this video.

[@marvac-r7916]

😁🖖🏼

[@MawGinBoo]

Two things: 1. It’s been a while since I’ve watched Stargate, but I think the idea is that the constellation codes were unique to each gate. The gate on the other planet had completely different markings that James Spader had to figure out because they weren’t Earth constellations 2. The thing about Starship Troopers is that I think it’s implied the asteroid was a false flag committed by the government in order to garner support for an invasion

[@cosmictreason2242]

In one episode they make it clear that the dialing sequence draws a line between 3 pairs of constellations, with the intersection of their lines in 3d space being a coordinate system for a gate. Because that allowed you to dial gates even as their location shifts from stellar drift. Then the 7th symbol identified the Galaxy in question, if dialing "internationally."

[@CatherineStark7]

7 is point of origin. 8th is for another galaxy

[@cosmictreason2242]

@@CatherineStark7 right i forgot

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

Point 2. There is no implication that the asteroid that destroys Buenes Aries(spelling?) was a false flag. At least not on any way that isn't a product of the non linear editing of the movie, where we're shown the anti-asteroid defense network that is set up after the attack working perfectly before we're shown the attack itself. As well as the weird subplot about the Federation refusing to believe the Bugs are intelligent conflicting with the idea(which is not the case in the book) In the book the attack is 100% the Bugs doing, since in the book it was an actual raid with a starship.

[@dieucondorimperial2509]

@@RipOffProductionsLLCthe book is a different kind of story from the movie, without the anti-fascist narrative.

[@keipfar]

Legend of galactic heroes ...

[@Eledore]

I second this to be added. As well as BattleTech's 'Inner sphere' and maybe some of the Pentagon worlds.

[@JakeSezz]

2:06 Hearing the Mass Effect galaxy map music is as important, to me, in a video like this as Hitchhiker’s references are. Well done 🤌🏻

[@MBW600]

The Douglas Adams narration of the Hitchhikers guide to the galaxyis the best. The original author spoke his book better than anyone else could ever.

[@dukestt5436]

Unless you grew up listening to the Peter Jones narration, in which case, there can be only one. And that's a completely different universe altogether.

[@MOSMASTERING]

As much as I love Fry.. I grew up listening to the original radio and then was obsessed as a child with the 6 episode BBC adaptation.. Peter Jones has this fantastic dry style of delivery, like.. 'I have no idea what I'm saying, but I'm going to put my alol into it anyway!' Also, I'll never give up an opportunity to vent and get some small catharsis from how much the Hitchhikers film hurt me. I looked forward to it for months and left the theater almost in tears. The 80s BBC adaptation, despite AWFUL 'spaceship-on-a-string' type special effects, had more charm and comedy in a single frame than the entire movie. It's THE standard for me.

[@quazar912]

I think Vincent Price would do sooo much better

[@MOSMASTERING]

@@quazar912 Vincent Price in small doses, in a conversational style on film or for announcements is fine - but an entire book narrated by him in that accent would drive you nuts after just a few pages, I'm sure. It's not neutral enough to be enjoyed in theat passive listening way you need.

[@nothingsurprisesmeanymore]

​@@MOSMASTERINGyes the film was a let down, there's way too much material for one film anyway.

[@anastasiabeaverhausen8220]

Well done! This is like visiting old friends. Been reading (and watching) SF all my life. (I'm 70.)

[@tom-vf1xv]

my condolences.

[@matthewkeebler2326]

​@@tom-vf1xv Hold your tongue! This person is young enough to be president!

[@GCLeverne]

You, Sir, are the God of the manmade Sci-Fi universe! This is the map of the universe I wanted to have when I was 12.

[@AllPurposeNerd]

26:24 - Ah yes, Uranus, the place from which Joss Whedon pulls many of his ideas.

[@indetigersscifireview4360]

Uranus is properly pronounced You reign us.

[@JoshuaFare]

You mean where all the woke crap comes from

[@concept5631]

​@@JoshuaFare *[UNIRONIC USE OF THE WORD "WOKE" DETECTED]* *[OPINION IMMEDIATELY DISCARDED]*

[@JoshuaFare]

@@concept5631 yep, us decent folk discarded yer opinion

[@concept5631]

@@JoshuaFare *[CRINGE DETECTED]*

[@joelrasdall7662]

I enjoyed this immensely. It also taught me how many star names I unwittingly learned from Star Control 2. I feel like I should probably be ashamed that I can picture where these stars are on SC2's hyperspace map much, much, much more readily than I can picture where they are in real life.

[@AAhmou]

Also the funny part is that in Star Control, stars had to be renamed since the way hyperspace works made it much harder to find out exactly where in the galaxy each star system exists once they jump to it. They had to rename the stars they can jump to in accordance to their location hyperspace.

[@diamondthree]

Same! SC2 was my reference for all of this

[@scarletmanuka6170]

I was a little disappointed not to see Star Control mentioned (I knew it was a long shot, though). The homeworlds of all the different species would have been cool to see.

[@johnwright1447]

I wrote a hard SF series called COUNT TO A TRILLION where I quite deliberately put all my extraterrestrial star systems in real places, with the real distances noted, and used a modern computerized storm app to make sure I had the distances between the various stars correct. Putting in the extra effort to get the details correct would be rewarded if and only if a detail oriented reader like yourself ever came across the work. This is a long and indirect way of saying you give authors like Frank Herbert and Larry Niven the reward for their extra effort.

[@cthulhufhtagn7520]

I just pirated it, I'll tell you what I think when I get around to reading it 👍

[@jph7472]

@@cthulhufhtagn7520LMAO

[@cthulhufhtagn7520]

Hey I really like your book, where can I buy it that gives you the largest percentage cut?

[@cthulhufhtagn7520]

Nevermind I went to your channel, I'm keeping it and not recommending it to anybody

[@NaliTikva]

Ironic username

[@aKalishnacough]

Elite Dangerous maps give me anxiety. If you didn't spend 20 minutes staring at them the first time you saw them. You're lying.

[@Hawk7886]

It took two minutes for the Mass Effect map music to kick in. Unwatchable. (subbed, this rocked)

[@Z0N1C38]

Knowing how many stars are in the game universe, BattleTech/ MechWarrior would also be perfect to add to the list you made

[@efxnews4776]

To much, talk... No Man's Sky has 255 galaxies, and 18 quintillion of worlds, and you can travel to all of them (if you are immortal and want to play this game until the heat death of the universe).

[@nuance9000]

​@@efxnews4776And a deck of cards has !52 different combinations... 😅😂

[@nemou4985]

@@efxnews4776in NMS they are procedurally generated, so they don't count

[@kirkenstiensmonster]

So happy to hear you mention Hyperion. Multiple times. I love the Cantos so much.

[@ambermartin3961]

I literally just finished it again. Have you read any of Simmons's other work?

[@robertjordan5524]

That was a wonderful presentation covering all the nearest stars. It allowed me to visualize the size of our galaxy.

[@smiddyman]

These videos have been incredible. The kind of videos I dreamed existed when I was a kid watching scifi. I hope this is the beginning of something that keeps going. Whenever you said "if you'd like to see that" the answer is yes. Yes to everything. Please make as much as you can because this is honestly beautiful work. You should also consider producing some merch with these maps. Some posters would look great. Thank you for making this.

[@babbaracos]

Owyeah some posters❤

[@opinyinatedhomeydonpladat3212]

I was thinking the same, finally something that feels more reliable than "cold, dead space"... It is cold tho, bin there. Each doorway, actually.🧊🚪🧊 🗑 🌆👳‍♂️👳🏿‍♂️ A.chemical D.ep¡×ס○ⁿ THE GAL💁‍♀️A××🪓 E🥸

[@theurbanshaman]

When that Mass Effect background music hit, nice.

[@jojogh10]

Came to the comments for this 🔥

[@GabrielKozsar]

Yes.

[@thunder7135]

12:23 OMG, BEYOND THE AQUILA RIFT, thanks so much for adding it to this video. When I started the video, I was HOPING we'd see Love Death + Robots mentioned here too. That episode was a big mindblown to me. Perfect animation and perfect story.

[@efxnews4776]

Yeah! I love that ep!

[@walkingcontradiction223]

Alastair Reynolds has a somewhat large collection of hard sci-fi books; Revelation Space being the dominant series. Beyond the Aquila Rift is mearly a very short story which takes place in that expansive collection.

[@harriehausenman8623]

@@walkingcontradiction223thx for the hint. will check it out!

[@Ed_Morningstar]

Man, I'd love to see 40k in here

[@craycap6325]

40k would be nice but there isnt a proper map of the galaxy even in 40k and the only real place is sol anyway

[@KJames2345]

Yeah same here.

[@davidfrederiksen3185]

​@@craycap6325 depends on your definition of real map. The 9 edition rulebook actually has a awesome map of the Warhammer galaxy

[@craycap6325]

@@davidfrederiksen3185 i know about the 9th ed map but it has no referance to real stars and it conflicts with other maps

[@davidfrederiksen3185]

@@craycap6325 ohhhh i see my bad then

[@valerian_earthling]

Love it: "it’s 3 million lightyears away - not too far from Andromeda". Indeed! Great work! Thanks!

[@jessegriffin9]

I don't completely realize what's going on. English isn't even my first language. But I love your dedication.

[@Cheater357]

I absolutely clicked on this because I saw that you included the Bobiverse in this. My absolute favorite audiobook series of all time. I've listened to it several times and never get tired of it. I noticed you do refer to the series as "the first 3 books" and the thumbnail was of those 3; for anyone interested the fourth book is called Heaven's River and there is a fifth coming out soon under the title Not Til We Are Lost.

[@kinseyjr21]

I would love to see a deep dive into the Bobiverse series. I'm currently on my 3rd read-through and can't wait for the 5th book to release later this year.

[@JaRyCu]

Are you secretly me and I just don't know it? Your first 2 sentences are exactly what I was getting ready to type until I saw that you already had. Audible told me for a year to get this book when it first came out, and (stupidly) kept saying no. When I did get it... well... I've listened to the original trilogy 20+ times. I didn't like book 4 as much as it veered away from the exploration-centric focus of the first 3. I just checked Dennis Taylor's website, and it looks like he is aiming at Sept 2024 for book 5! Can I make it 7 more months? We'll see.

[@cecilstewart121]

I would definitely watch a Bobiverse video

[@Cheater357]

@@JaRyCu I feel obligated to point out that the lack of exploration in the general theme of book 4 was a major plot point of book 4. This wasn't just oh the author got distracted and forgot to write about this, it was a situation that showed up after the war with the others. In chapter 10, Hersh and Neil are discussing what to do now that the colonies are set up and Earth is evacuated. They complained that the Bobiverse has become a bit stagnant and there are very few Bobs still going out and exploring the universe. The skippies with the matrioshka brain, the gamers playing games, even Bill and Will with their projects. He says most of the Bobs have turned to some form of navel gazing. So they decide to take the Bellerophon out with a group of humans to establish a distant colony in case something happens in the main human sphere. Also bear in mind that for the most part the perspective of the story is told mostly by the senior Bobs. If they don't have contact with those Bobs that have just decided to drop everything and leave the human sphere without establishing SCUT relays then we won't hear about them either. Perhaps we will hear more when some of them come back. We also don't know what gave Starfleet their collective PTSD, whether their ancestor got some major drift after the war with the others or if they came across something else out there and none of them want to talk about it. I felt that the books hinted that there is something else out there that gave Starfleet the stick up their collective ass. They're afraid of something but we don't know what it is. I'm hoping book 5 will explore that more, as well as the group going out with Hersh and Neil. Their plan is to load up the ship with materials and AMI controlled ships and have them go out to the stars they pass to set up SCUT relays so they stay in touch. So they are planning on taking up a big portion of that exploration motive you would expect for von Neumann probes. If anything in here looks weird, I typed it using Google's voice to text which is absolute ass right now. I've tried correcting most of it, but I'm sure some nonsense slipped through.

[@mdimascio]

Bobiverse, Dennis Taylor, and the legendary narrator Ray Porter!!! Looking forward to many books!

[@FootlongFrank]

Mentions Halo like 4 or 5 times then says he won’t mention it again but mentions Star Trek at almost every star

[@Relyas]

Because Star Trek rocks

[@melaniephillips4238]

Your research and your 3D map was so extensive and brilliant, even a picky nerd like me can overlook a few mispronunciations! I'll bet many of us mispronounce some of them also. Amazing work!

[@johnp8131]

It would probably have helped if some had been spelt correctly in the first place?

[@DeaconBlues117]

The Rush reference comes from the song "Cygnus X-1, Book One: the Voyage" (more commonly known as just "Cygnus X-1"), on the album " A Farewell To Kings". It's the Rocinante's course toward Cygnus X-1: "I set a course just east of Lyra, Northwest of Pegasus, Flew into the light of Deneb, Sailed across the Milky Way..."

[@Baleur]

25:20 i kinda zoned out here... it's just too much man.. Now, imagine in real life, with all the civilizations that must be out there, and the ancient civilizations long forgotten history over the past 10 billion years or so.. It's unfathomable.

[@florianschneider3982]

At least in this galaxy we are probably the only ones

[@litigioussociety4249]

It's probably zero. Based on statistics it's zero, since we have no evidence of other intelligent/advanced life forms on earth, and no evidence of even simple life outside of earth. The existence of one doesn't imply the other, and the existence of life on earth has no implications for the possibility of life elsewhere without proof of abiogenesis, the means of it, and evidence of the possibility of those means elsewhere. On the other hand, you can have a Mormon attitude that God or gods have populated other worlds with human like creatures. Again, there's no extraterrestrial evidence of such a thing. The assumption with humans is that the organ in our brain that allows for the usage and understanding of complex speech is why we've innovated in ways animals have not. However, there may also be certain intutions that affect it as well. Without that, it may be other sapient beings would be living harmoniously with nature more like animals, and would never develop civilizations. Similar to the Nox in Stargate, they would probably consider us evil and destructive.

[@stavinaircaeruleum2275]

​@@litigioussociety4249bullshit. There are nigh infinite amount of planets. There has to be at least a couple with life. I'm sorry but probabilities don't lie.

[@fergushancock3567]

Define civilisation. We have spent a great amount of our history denying other human beings have or ever achieved civilisation. How are we to do that for any alien species? Plastic, perhaps? Pollution? War? Nuclear waste depositories?

[@florianschneider3982]

@@stavinaircaeruleum2275 You obviously don't know how probability works.

[@irishempire9811]

seeing the locations of Reach, Harvest, Arcadia, and the Alpha Halo Ring in comparison to Earth is crazy, how did the Covenant not find Earth for 30 years before Halo 2 when it was right there?

[@georgebarfield3730]

The fact that I can recognize both the STO and Elite Dangerous maps makes me very pleased that you mentioned them. 🖖👍

[@NoMusiciansInMusicAnymore]

I'm just thrilled you've included the Bobiverse

[@stephenshaw3565]

Watching this video was such a trip after playing hundreds of hours of Starfield. So amazing to get a more clear image of just how "Large" the Starfield really is

[@Finlandiaperkele]

Fine KZbin, I'll watch this. You don't have to keep recommending me months on end.

[@Kisseyhersh123]

The Pleiades were pretty big back in Elite Dangerous, as they were the first contact systems with the Thargoids. You can also travel to Proxima Centauri to get a free Anaconda and some cool souvenirs :)

[@MNewton]

I love that this is still making the rounds.

[@TheFberry100]

The Pleiades and Orion are mentioned 3 times in the bible! Amos 5:8 Job 9:9 and Job 38:31.

[@cmdr_Yourmata]

yea… definitely… a free anaconda 😀

[@goldenmoonhorizon4086]

Of course, it would make the entire Solar System a small speak of dust.

[@chrisfrost1649]

The Mass Effect Exploration Music sold this for me. good job.

[@The_Viscount]

You have no idea how happy I was to see my favorite childhood video game series, Freespace, get a mention. Incredible game, amazing modding community, and great story. I highly recommend it.

[@ZMacZ]

20:36 It's also important for Star Trek, since it's where Khan Noonien Soong (instead of Singh, because Khan was Noonian Soong's creation) (Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan) was stranded before he got picked up, after mistaking Tau Ceti 5 for 4 due to Ceti Alpha 4's destruction, aboard the USS Reliant.

[@andrewwarman1459]

The Mass Effect map music is just the best.

[@luttrwe7688]

Thank you for mentioning Elite Dangerous. That game gives you a great perspective of the size of our galaxy.

[@rhaedas9085]

The greatest early videos were from streamers playing the game the first time and stumbling upon the ability to zoom out on the galaxy map. Stunned silence or "whhooooaaa" from many of them.

[@XenoX787]

Dude, thank you very much for the kind words at the end. Every time I find myself reading books or watching videos about Space, I feel a bit alone. There is no one I can talk about that, I don't have anybody in my small little bubble who is just interested as I am in this topic. I am truly interested in what's going on out there. Kinda sad rereading it, but hey - oh.. Stars

[@belewy3053]

You're not alone 🙂

[@Serialkoala]

we're all around you, fellow Homo Sideria 😋

[@yahccs1]

KZbin comments sections on these kinds of videos is the 'online bubble' for space fans and sci-fi-fans wherever they are in real space! I think documentary videos about sci-fi and fantasy worlds (and 'the making of...' stories) are more interesting and easier to listen to than the movies or series they are talking about. All the fascinating details and world-building background without the hectic noisy action and dramatic music!

[@schmodedo]

Great video. It's difficult for many to imagine the sheer scale of interstellar distances thanks to all the wonderful sci-fi stories and their suspension of disbelief. I also enjoyed the Mass Effect background music and Hitchhiker's Guide references.

[@Prisoner_849]

Glad you added Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda. Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda is a great series sadly Season 5 was rushed due to cancellation which is why Season 5 of Andromeda felt bad or rushed.

[@hplovecraft1402]

Agreed. People often cite as humanity's destiny in the utopian society of Star Trek. I always felt that reality gets in the way of utopian ideals and that Andromeda will end up being far closer to our future reality. In terms of the Nietzscheans representing what we would call the transhumanism movement. Where as others would follow a more traditional existence etc.

[@toddwasson3355]

This was 624,787.3 times more comprehensive than I expected. Well done, sir.

[@keirfarnum6811]

Show your math. 😆

[@josephcontreras8930]

Yes now let's all meet up at the restaurant at the end of the universe and get a couple of tables together to discuss what we learned. I believe they have a great blue plate special going on and they've gotten great reviews over the millennia and eons. 😅

[@toddwasson3355]

@@keirfarnum6811 Gladly. Measured data: Comprehensive expectation (E): 2 Actual comprehensiveness (A): 1,249,574.6 ratio = A / E ratio = 1,249,574.6 / 2 ratio = 624,787.3 Therefore: This was 624,787.3 times more comprehensive than I expected.

[@OwenPhillipsMBA]

Fav video; the 3d plotting graph is astounding. Really increased my understanding of space distances. Thank you!

[@TTocsxic]

Dude. This channel is AWESOME! Even just watched your 30second-explainers and I'm still not asleep.. you keep me hoooked! SUBSCRIBED

[@ExploringFate]

This was perfect. You know what would be interesting how "Doctor Who" & "Battlestar Galactica" relate to this.

[@mustashman260]

Yes!!! I would love to see a BSG map

[@akashugo]

It whas soo intencional that he didnt put that two scifi stories to this video. I mean bruh how you not gonna put two of the biggest scifi "world-building" on a "informative-teaching" video?

[@nofunallowed3382]

Sirius is the star system where the elite of society fled to during Fero Plague, as revealed in Horizon Forbidden West. Great video, I love to finally see the scope of different sci-fi universes. When mentioned C.J. Cherryh's Downbelow Station I gasped in excitement, my favourite book ever got a mention!

[@Thuktun]

Related to why planets in Star Trek are often named Something 4, I imagine the thought is that the fourth planet in a given system will often be within the Goldilocks Zone and be the home of some civilization.

[@PrinceAlhorian]

The trope in sci-fi about naming every planet 4 or 3 is based on our solar system where technically Earth should be called Sol 3 and Mars being Sol 4 (some sci-fi even call them Solaris 3 & 4). It comes down to basically assuming the Goldilocks Zone for most solar systems fall between the 3rd or 4th planet if most solar systems follows ours as a pattern. Comes down to lazy world building, take what is familiar and sprinkle fairy dust on it, spacy enough to be cool but an easy opt out for risking the suspension of disbelief.

[@DiavsArt]

Absolutely stunning work to a mind-blowing level of depth and attention to detail. You deserve every view and more for this level of quality

[@kevinpatrickburke]

The best use of 35 minutes I have had recently.

[@mirozkapeluszem]

Indeed. It's better than sex.

[@Axemantitan]

Archer IV was mentioned in the TNG episode "Yesterday's Enterprise." It's the site of a battle where the Federation gave the Klingons "a pasting" according to Riker. It was later retroactively discovered by Captain Archer and the NX-01.

[@ilet3049]

At least Stargate got it right. No light speed travel which gets you nowhere.

[@insylem]

Stargate used FTL ships that they got reversed engineered and built from the Asguard

[@RryhhbfrHhgdHhgd356]

1:29 Ouch. So true though. 😂 Most people alas don’t care much about anything past their property lines.

[@EveryDooDarnDiddlyDay]

The Bobbyverse: *"THATS MY HOME PLANET! I DON'T KNOW YOU!"*

[@HighOverlordSnarffieBeagle]

yes

[@coldvaper]

Man so much work went into this. I applaud you good sir. Too bad I was born too soon to actually get to explore any of these “closer” star systems….

[@DarkElfDiva]

You missed how Rigel is the home system of the alien invaders in the Duke Nukem series. Gliese 667c is the homeworld of the Venlil from The Nature of Predators.

[@Kargoneth]

The scale of the universe is unfathomable.

[@elLooto]

Given that a fathom is 6 feet (72 inches) and measures depth below the ocean surface, seems like a true statement.

[@TheVoidIsBees]

That's what so cool about it

[@Flesh_Wizard]

Play Space Engine to start fathoming

[@The_cgull]

I am baffled that I never heard of this channel before. The amount of research in this video is crazy. I'm subscribing.

[@ToadalChaos]

Phenomenal video! The final speech was also truly beautiful, well done! "We are the starchildren. We will be the ancestors of Homo Siderea. And if you ever feel alone, remember that there are millions of people like you, and we will live on in the stars."

[@jaggerbushOG]

Drawing a map of our universe is like living in the suburbs and only ever knowing what you see when looking out a window and drawing a detailed map of your city.

[@adampicklesimer8310]

The Mass Effect music during the opening talking about Earth on its axis makes me love this video, channel and creator without question.

[@tristanbackup2536]

Makes me really want to go to space & explore. Mass Effect gave me that feel. 😭 We been stuck on this planet for too long, we need to leave.

[@carrier7676]

The name of the main Galaxy in Star Wars is called "Sky River". You're Welcome.

[@valdotorg]

And it’s 3 million light years away from Earth based upon an ET movie poster. That’s if you accept the alien in the film ET is the same as the aliens that look exactly like him in episode one of Star Wars.

[@gerlofsdonia4522]

@@valdotorg There was also an ET novel Book of the Green Planet which cements this even further.

[@Toneai2007]

Damn, I never realized how "close-knit" some of these worlds from Sci-Fi franchises are, I always imagine something that covers about 10th of the galaxy, but this was not not even a thousandth. Good job on the video.

[@williewanker42]

Holy cow. I stumbled on this video and it had me intrigued, racing to check out ideas it gave me, and laughing. Don't change the style of the videos at all. Great stuff.

[@akizeta]

A map-related anecdote about _The Hyperion Cantos:_ in one of the _Endymion_ books, Dan Simmons has Epsilon Indi and Epsilon Eridani at less than a light-year from each other, which makes for a conveniently short trip using the setting's not-as-fast-as-light drive. In actual fact, they are in different constellations about 90° apart in the sky, making them about 15 or so light-years from each other. It seems that Simmons mistook the Greek letter designator as the constellation name when looking for stars to put in his stories. (There's also about two light-years difference in their ranges from Earth, but we'll give him a pass on that, as they were thought to be at slightly different ranges when he was writing the _Cantos.)_

[@wizardohjero]

Loved the entirety of the video and the end note. Thank you so much for putting in the effort to make this!

[@Svensk7119]

Love the RIP Pluto! Halley's Comet is a short-period comet, and I am that guy who annoys everyone with the fact that the Oort Cloud is the actual edge of the Solar system.

[@adamstanley3278]

dude this is one of the coolest videos I've seen in a long time - the effort and detail that went into this is really impressive - bravo mate

[@Dracula-m2k]

space scares me i get panic attacks thinking about it 😅

[@FiliusFidelis]

19:40 ah no, that would be System Shock TWO 😁 aboard the ships Von Braun and Rickenbacker. The first System Shock takes place aboard Citadel Station in orbit around Saturn. 21:17 Honorverse and Eridani, don't recall them ever going to Eridani in any of those books, however the Eridani edict is often mentioned. The Eridani Edict was the prohibition of planetary bombardment if I recall.

[@Nails077]

I was about to comment this but found you already said what I wanted to. Have a like.

[@bandolin1216]

This will be used by all creators of Sci fi for some years to come. Execellently done. Worthy of a disertation for a doctorate IMO. Love the Mass Effect background music BTW. Brought back some really pleasant memories.

[@jerrymcrie]

enormous volume of work. loved it. thx. now imagine having a map, a usable map of just our galaxy to travel ... mind bending concept.

[@ShawnB-w1u]

Arcturus from both ALIEN and ALIENS, is also known as ,LV-426, the world with the derilect alien space craft that carried the zenomorph eggs. It was the colonized by the "Company" because they long knew what was there. The Marines were dispatched, not on furlough, but to investigate why they lost contact with the colony, fearing that the colonists found the zenomorph eggs and had been wiped out. Ripley was ostensibly sent as a consultant to prepare the Marines for what they could and eventually would find.