The Horrors of Travelling OUTSIDE the Galaxy | Star Wars Lore

[@EckhartsLadder]

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[@sirpimpington720]

Been following for I think 4ish years. This is your channel, your content, I've loved every second of it. Battle breakdowns to universe vs, I want you to do what you do. I've always preferred your 'rambling content.' Just personal preference, you do what you think will make the channel grow. I will be here regardless

[@AlexSDU]

Talking about galaxy, do Star Wars' main galaxy have a name just like ours did?

[@justanotherperson7774]

Bless Your Perfection Praise the true creators 🙌

[@jasonmoore4429]

Is R2D2 force sensitive?

[@harveycasey1900]

The Out Bound flight returning from the unknown region with warped & disturbed Jedi on board. I would definitely read that book😃👍🏿

[@ladygrey7425]

There's probably another, more spiritual (and Lovecraftian) reason why Force-users in particular don't travel outside the galaxy - the sheer utter lack of the Force itself. We know that just being near black holes are enough to drive Jedi and Sith to bouts of paranoia and insanity, and that life creates and sustains the Force. Hence it could be said where there is no live (the intergalactic void), the Force is absent.

[@tbn22]

Lovecraft is too cringy to be taken seriously.

[@stupidandboot4507]

@@tbn22 you sound pretty cringe

[@barahng]

@@tbn22 I'm dumbfounded that anyone could say this as a *Star Wars* fan. What about Lovecraft do you find cringey? I find the childish portrayal of binary good and evil in Star Wars to be a bit cringe, but I do like a lot of aspects of its lore and worldbuilding. Kotor remains one of my favorite RPGs to this day.

[@brianp6682]

jedi would have to bring a whole bunch of life with them beyond the galaxy. like a portable star that can be "driven" like a ship, with a full complement of planets and moons that have all been terraformed with flora, fauna, and intelligent life. all to stay in touch with the force and keep them from going crazy.

[@asilentninja]

This is why you fail.

[@wolftitan]

I love how Star Wars and Star Trek seem to have so much trouble with galactic travel while Stargate is like, "How many galaxies have we been to?"

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

"At least four, I think. It's hard to tell with Destiny sometimes."

[@Kalebfenoir]

"There's a wall at the edge of the galaxy!" "... you're in 3D space. Go UP or DOWN out of the disc. And go around. Hell, just go straight out of the disc vertically and don't aim for the Rim. Let the Rim have its ring barrier." Now see, while I can understand that the galaxy itself has a natural stabilizing effect on hyperspace, and so out of the galaxy you run into a turmoil in hyperspace... I'll buy that. That the natural state of intergalactic hyperspace after a certain distance jump-impossible. It'd be like stepping off a river rock and into a storm current. Gotcha. But a barrier? Lame writing.

[@casbot71]

The 70's British sci fi series *Blake's 7* also had extra Galactic issues. The good old invaders from Andromeda. The Terran Federation (makes the mirror universe look like hippies) had encountered a Andromedian scout centuries earlier, and 💥💥👽👾🛸🔫. So a anti matter minefield was secretly constructed around the Milky Way galaxy to keep them out, along with automated systems and a secret base called _Star One_ that is computer control of the entire Federation. The second season of the show culminates in a big finale where the bad guy betrays Humanity and helps the Andromedians make a hole in the midfield, and so the heroes in their super spaceship have to hold the fleet off (which can come through only one at a time) while sending a distress signal to the evil Federation about what's really happening. It's a very dramatic moment, slightly undercut by being able to see the strings holding the models of the ships in the "special effects" …

[@randycheow4268]

What about the Halo universe?

[@Kalebfenoir]

@@casbot71 I just keep thinking "... you had that massive an amount of resources to mine literally multiple BILLIONS of light years, in vertical and horizontal, around the edge of the galaxy?... but your enemy could literally just fly over that minefield and come down into the disc of the galaxy if they'd thought about it for a second." Just the concept of mining the ENTIRE length of the galactic Rim... is mind bending. If you could do that, you could save the resources and make a Dyson Beam Cannon from a stellar cluster or something, a la XKCD. Or build quadrillion of warships to actively patrol that same minefield.... or a million other things.

[@tylersmith5124]

One interesting theory might be that hyperspace as we know it is different because of all the gravity present inside a galaxy. We know that being too close to a gravity well causes you to fall out of hyperspace, so what if without the ambient amount of weaker gravity you would experience inside the galaxy it is impossible to return from hyperspace or maybe your acceleration through hyperspace becomes uncontrollable. The very lack of the galaxy is the problem

[@nevertrusasmurf]

Interesting take!

[@stevenscott2136]

Like you can sail a boat on warm water, but if it's too warm (steam) it will kill you. And if the water is too cold (ice), the boat won't move at all.

[@benrig89]

That's a fantastic take, and it would be really creepy if those who entered hyperspace outside the galaxy became 'trapped' forever due to uncontrollable acceleration as you posit.

[@TheAJmoviemaker]

I was thinking something similar, would be a really neat theory

[@barahng]

@@benrig89 Event Horizon style.

[@PokemonHaloFan]

I remember reading somewhere that part of the reason Palpatine had Tarkin attack the Outbound Flight project was his fear that it would bring the Yuuzhon Vong into the galaxy before he was ready to deal with them. Apparently Thrawn and the Chiss were also aware of the existence of the Yuuzhon Vong well before the Republic or Palpatine for that matter.

[@Stand_Tall]

source is the book: outbound flight

[@Animalace3]

IIRC, the Mandolorians technically were also aware of the Yuuzhan Vong during the time Revan was alive (if you believe the theory). Though of course, they wouldn't have known it was the Yuuzhan Vong. This is from a story told by Canderous Ordo in the first KOTOR game, where he talks about a small asteroid that suddenly came alive, blasted the Mandos with its weapons, then zoomed into the void between galaxies at extreme speed.

[@yarpen26]

@@Animalace3 I remember that Cando conversation, 100% didn't see a creepy NJO reference in a video game coming. The lore was awesome when the prequels were released, every writer made callbacks to others, making the galaxy look lively and internally coherent, while it still appeared absolutely huge. They still make callbacks in the Disney Canon, but it just feels... small, somehow. And there is a very pressing shortage of serious, adult stuff, making the whole thing look childish when compared to the EU.

[@PokemonHaloFan]

@@yarpen26 I know what you mean. First time I played KOTOR and Canderous told me that story it sent chills down my spine. All the unknown things out there in the galaxy neither the Jedi or Sith can even comprehend.

[@tooslow4065]

thats because they were closer to them.

[@Littlegoatpaws]

I've always found the "Here Thar Be Dragons" element to the unknown regions of the galaxy and the gulf outside of it to be a nice touch to a science fiction universe that has medieval and classical elements to its society and culture as well as unusually primitive technology for an interstellar civilization.

[@thekaxmax]

'primitive'=='WWII-to-1970s tech with /space/ written in front'.

[@toobig7150]

The Cosmere (Brandon sanderson books shared universe) does this pretty well, you have people still fighting with literal swords and lances, others in medieval age, others in PRE MEDIEVAL age and the most advanced of them being in the midst of the industrial revolution yet they still can travel between planets, not much in the technological way, but rather magical, but its still really cool to see since we are starting to get "magic" + proper modern tech.

[@crowe6961]

@@toobig7150 Warhammer 40k is kind of the same boat, just turned up to 11. It's not uncommon for Imperial Guard regiments and Space Marines to be recruited from worlds with pre-20th Century levels of infrastructure and technology, and the Warp and means of getting into it are unquestionably space magic.

[@toobig7150]

@@crowe6961 the thing with warhammer is that sometimes they do it by choice to keep the population off modern means of defense, or to keep they blind from chaos influence, or simply power greedy planetary government. In the comeré is by natural means, most worlds are pretty similar tech wise, only one being advanced enough to have a noticeable advantage (gun powder, electric stuff and etc) They are not comparable

[@crikeybaguette4564]

@@toobig7150 Personally I like how Dune does it, by actually explaining the reason behind the seemingly primitive tech. Like how the reason they fight with swords instead of guns is because advanced shields made guns useless, or how the reason they use mentats (which are basically wizards) instead of computers is because computers were outlawed after the Butlerian Jihad.

[@prussianhill]

I appreciate the older videos being revisited, especially when there is new content. Heck, even new theories or explanations that reframe old content in a new way.

[@qinntt]

I would appreciate rehashing some old stuff too

[@brandonlau183]

I share the same opinion - would love revisiting old topics, as long as there is some sort of new theory/connection/fact/ etc. doesnt even need to be super significant, new quirks are also interesting.

[@ConstablePapa]

This is the way.

[@joshuawoodrum1469]

I agree

[@fanaticduck5125]

I'm down with that. sometimes when new info is out, I want Star Wars channels to make a new video. EckhardtsLadder is usual the one who does that.

[@The_Horse-leafs_Cabbage]

It's interesting how both Star Wars and Star Trek have these almost fantastical boundaries impeding travel beyond their respective galaxies.

[@stevenscott2136]

And in Trek's case, they simultaneously don't work (Kelvins, Doomsday Machine, Traveller, etc) AND aren't really necessary (galactic races can barely reach the edge anyway and show little interest in trying).

[@jeffumbach]

That's why the barrier was forgotten in TNG and later when they recalibrated warp travel so that you couldn't just zip across the galaxy in days. I think even STD made an excuse that the network that the magical spore drive depends on doesn't extend past the edge of the galaxy.

[@tonysmith9905]

It's cuz this is actually based on real science. There is a "barrier" around our own galaxy, and others, where instead of the space becoming less dense it in fact gets even denser. So dense that it would destroy any ship we could build right now if it didn't have special shielding added on to it. What's happening is all the cosmo junk, dust, debris and other things, is actually colliding together in in their orbit near the edges of the galaxies, so they would grind any normal ship to dust. Legit, go look it up, it's either the Heliosphere...or the next bubble beyond that. I can't remember exactly.

[@ToddAdams]

@@jeffumbach recalibrated warp drive was much faster than old warp where warp 8 was just 512x light speed which would still take months to traverse the Fedderation space. Even Voyager was going to take 70 years to gett home at very high warp.

[@johnmarks9994]

It’s a flat galaxy.

[@Jerry2die4]

I thought the hyperspace barrier was made by the Celestials to prevent outsiders from disturbing the Star Wars Galaxy, as well as "isolate", as best they could the Mnggal-Mnggal and all it controlled.

[@5erase]

This is what I thought as well...

[@irvinator2173]

Is the mngall-mngall new cannon cause that would explain it

[@robertnelson9599]

That was from Legends, so Disney is going to copy and butcher it.

[@shanehudson3995]

@@robertnelson9599 It was dumb and Disney will make it worse.

[@m488thunderbird3]

@@5erase do the Mnggal Mnggal sound like Lovecraftian monsters.

[@somedandy7694]

"Let's do a trilogy where we explain the scary stuff beyond the galaxy and what the Death Star was being built to defend AGAINST!" "That's stupid. We're doing the Luke's-a-Loser and Death-Star-But-Bigger storylines"

[@Nobody_Here_Anymore]

I feel like your on to something

[@ileutur6863]

As much as the new trilogy is disappointing, I can't believe people keep being upset over Luke. His development into a disgruntled former hero made perfect sense. He devoted his life to bringing peace to the galaxy and ultimately failed

[@connormcgehee9349]

@@ileutur6863 yes Luke the man who saw good in the man who loved hunting jedi and was a servant under the empire and never gave up gives up good character development

[@lordschnitzel9998]

@@connormcgehee9349 tries to kill a child because of perceived darkness in him. Seems legit

[@Momofukudoodoowindu]

Sounds about right

[@Roboprogs]

The (non Star Wars) novel “Fire Upon the Deep” has an interesting take on interstellar travel and environments. The galactic core is so “broken” that it doesn’t support life, or at least intelligent life. We (Earth) live in the “slow zone” (as in retarded). Most of the interesting species live in the galactic suburbs with FTL drives, FTL communication, and supercomputers. The “beyond” is a scarily advanced area which you wander into at your peril.

[@blazecrep7849]

What are FTL stuff?

[@Roboprogs]

@@blazecrep7849 sorry, Faster Than Light (which breaks physics)

[@landosayk]

that sounds really interesting!

[@fourtwelve412]

My friend THANK YOU for introducing a cool new sci fi story! Loving it so far!!!

[@Roboprogs]

@@fourtwelve412 the prequel, "Deepness in the Sky" is also pretty good. The sequel (forgot the name), not so much.

[@casbot71]

Could be worse, they could encounter Tyranid Hive Fleets…

[@MrRICKRAMPAGE]

I always wondered if the similarities between the Vong and the Tyranids were just a coincidence.

[@GonzoCiosain]

@@MrRICKRAMPAGE Tbh the Yuuzhan Vong remind me more of the Drukhari from the 40K universe, but it's possible that they were somewhat influenced by both.

[@spiffygonzales5899]

40K is over rated. The Galactic Empire is easily stronger than the Imperium of Mankind. At least the Galactic Empire from Legends.

[@eemeli6706]

@@spiffygonzales5899 nope

[@spiffygonzales5899]

@@eemeli6706 They have more men, more ships, and far better technology. How does the Imperium win?

[@thefrenchmanleo]

I love these kinds of lore videos, as I think they don't talk about the external galaxy as much.

[@robertnelson9599]

Not now. Several extragalactic species like the Vong showed up in Legends.

[@jamesduncan6729]

External space, you mean. There is no "external galaxy," outside the galaxy is empty space. Not more galaxy

[@Kalebfenoir]

Anytime I hear "oh we can't leave the galaxy because there's a weird barrier" I read it as "we just thought it'd be boring to say 'there's nothing beyond but big nigh-empty vacuum until the next galaxy' " . To me, it's poor writing. Especially if the barrier 'only' shows up when you get to a specific distance from the Rim of the galaxy, and is otherwise not even there. Why can't they just say "we don't go out there because there's little point: scant stars, low resources, and it's like 30 million of our longest jumps to get to the nearest one. Only pirates and hostile aliens go out there cuz they can get away from the authorities out in The Void. It's not any more dangerous than anywhere IN the galaxy... just empty."

[@treystephens6166]

The barrier is hundreds of billions of light years.

[@danielkorladis7869]

empty except for the pirates and hostile aliens hiding out from the authorities

[@treystephens6166]

@@feedayeen how do we know how wide the galaxy is? We can’t even see the planets orbiting the stars we see at night.

[@stevenscott2136]

They're writers, they go for the dramatic. Like in Trek, where the barrier only exists as an excuse to give Gary Mitchell superpowers so Kirk can angst over killing him. You know somebody later thought "Why didn't Gene just have a radioactive meteor do it?? The barrier ruins my story idea!"

[@treystephens6166]

@@feedayeen maybe we are in the Star Wars galaxy in the Unexplored Regions.

[@Random-xy5vf]

Personally I think it'll be cool for mulitple galactic stories to take place in the same universe but just galaxies apart so they'll never encounter each other due to distance. Like star strek, halo, and star wats being set within the same universe but completely different parts of it where they are too far to interact

[@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730]

You forgot Warhammer and Mass Effect.

[@thesithofearth3617]

​@@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730I was going to add half-life into the mix, but that includes earth

[@sbprime2483]

not too far for the Herald of Galactus,, the Silver Surfer

[@railfandepotproductions]

*star trek *Star wars

[@uniball5667]

*unidentified ship appears from beyond the Rim* New Republic radio operator: "unidentified vessel, identify yourself!" Mysterious ship: "we are the United Citizen Federation! Would you like to know more?"

[@TheRiskyBrothers]

So my science-fantasy headcannon for this is that galaxies are concentrated around dark matter, right? Maybe in intergalactic space without the gravity from dark matter, hyperdrives don't work as expected.

[@TrapCat]

Im pretty sure dark matter is global, its not only in galaxy's but the whole universe.

[@plumetheum7017]

​@@TrapCat Not quite, his point is that galaxies form because of clumps of dark matter. Therefore the lack of ambient gravity beyond the galaxy screws with hyperdrives. Dark energy on the other hand is universal.

[@TwitchyTopHat1]

@@TrapCat not like it has ever even been observed, it's just a theory to attempt to explain weird maths

[@jacopoabbruscato9271]

The science in Star Wars has never been defined, most descriptions of hyperdrives and advanced tech are either random jargon or "somehow". It's hard to say what could affect a hyperdrive.

[@Papinak2]

@@jacopoabbruscato9271 but we know that gravity affects the hyperspace travel, gravity wells of planets and stars pull ships out of hyperspace - what if getting out of the galaxy gravity well have opposite effect?

[@lisbon1492]

Given the new canon with Disney, I think this is the perfect time to revisit old videos.

[@yourmother6045]

It's not canon :)

[@dawsynasay4841]

@@yourmother6045 That’s the point he was making. He is saying the new canon is so bad that that it’s worth going back to the older videos

[@thetrashcanman7537]

@@yourmother6045it’s definitely not , we as starwars fans decided that

[@inspectorpena]

I enjoy all of your videos about the very strange corners of Legends, like the Mnggal-Mnggal and similar topics. Legends in my opinion is definitely superior to Canon overall.

[@mr.stickerton]

It’s superior in everyone’s opinions!

[@inspectorpena]

@@mr.stickerton It should be

[@Kolonol1]

Those are my favorites!!!

[@Kolonol1]

@@mr.stickerton very important word in your comment...in EVERYONES opinion :)

[@bobsnow6242]

I wasn't a huge fan of the Vong story arc and initially was glad that they weren't going to be used for the sequel trilogy because I thought their whole concept was kind of stupid and the writing not of sufficient quality to put on the big screen under the Star Wars name, but obviously now in hindsight I'd be entirely content with a Vong invasion trilogy as canon over what we got.

[@ShionWinkler]

What horrors are out side the Galaxy,... Tyranids.

[@keigofae1081]

Neeeeeeeeeeerd (same)

[@CasualCatOfficial]

Real

[@InterrogatorchaplainAsmodai]

Nom nom nom

[@molybdaen11]

With even a percentage of the druid tech level seen in star wars, you could easily map out the hyperspace and its anormalys at the edge. Just send a few drones to different distances and see which one still answers. Or let them make short jumps and then find out how close you can get and if there relly is nothing to see in real space.

[@cd5sircoupe]

As long as there's a significant addition to be made to a topic I don't see a problem with revisiting old videos.

[@moriorinvictus9054]

Generally enjoy when you revisit older topics and add more information or just new thoughts to the mix. Would love to see more lore videos on the unknown region, aliens, and the looming evil that Thrawn so often purported to Emperor Palpy.

[@camb06]

As a cursory viewer of your channel, I love dives and re-dives into lore, ‘cause there’s a lot that I’ve forgotten and even more that I haven’t been exposed to.

[@NeidalRuekk]

I remember the hyperspace disturbance being likened to a storm, and someone saying 'Just because it was there in the past doesn't mean it always will be'

[@KapnKrowe]

It's entirely possible that Vector Prime, and by extension, any other "intergalactic bridges," were forged by the Abominor and Silentium on their own pre-galactic-historical journeys to the GFFA- and that the Vong used their former tormenters' entry points unintentionally in a bit of juicy irony

[@bigfootwithinternetconnect2330]

YES!! I love these types of SW videos man, the whole topic of the big unknown, cosmic/eldrich horror and the horrors and terrors of deep space has always been my most favorite part of Star Wars, and honestly I wish it only gets vaguely explored in the future..I think the uncertainty and ambiguity of it is what gives it its charm

[@railfandepotproductions]

*Eldritch

[@fazbrogaming7776]

I feel like the official name for the Star Wars Galaxy should be “The Rim” it fits perfectly if you ask me.

[@NerdManReturns]

Personally I always call it the Starway galaxy. Always seemed like a perfect name for it.

[@thestarwarsmusiccomposer3491]

I call it the galactic galaxy

[@talistrahan6374]

But, doesn't the rim only refer to like the outer rim?

[@potionseller8943]

the outer rim is called the outer rim because it is the literal "outer rim" of the galaxy. calling the entire galaxy "The Rim" doesn't make sense.

[@Julian-pw5mv]

@@talistrahan6374 well, that and the inner rim and mid rim

[@Wally480]

I'm totally okay with you updating and/or revisiting old topics or even re-uploading old videos because there's a good chance I missed them

[@Chance57]

You can always just go to the channel? It's not like there's a set amount of time you can watch upon upload before it's gone forever. Reuploads without anything new would be an instant unsub.

[@CharlieHepp]

@@Chance57 In the world of Star Wars, Grand Admiral Thrawn (real name Mitth'raw'nuruodo, so eat your heart out ‘Grogu’) is an alien (from a species called the Chiss) who serves as a senior officer within the Empire Noted for his ruthlessness and tactical acumen, Thrawn makes a point of “knowing his enemy” to the extent that he spends considerable time researching a species’ philosophy, art and culture, turning this information to his advantage in a storied military career.

[@Junkie123]

Don’t forget past the unknown regions in wild space where you may find star clusters or the ruins of hyperspace lanes and other such things. There’s an example of this is Rebels season two episode 14.

[@ShadowDragon-cw7wb]

According to ET's species being canon... The Star Wars galaxy is Andromeda a long time ago and in their night sky is an equally large galaxy we call the Milky Way.

[@archetypealch3my290]

Bullshit

[@AdmiralBonetoPick]

Canonically it takes about 3 days to get from one end of the Star Wars galaxy to the other. By that scale, it should take no more than 30 days to get from the Star Wars galaxy to the next nearest galaxy.

[@YaBoyMirage]

😎Watching an EckhartsLadder on a rainy day is something that is truly surreal👍

[@lightspeedvictory]

#askeck was the mission to rescue Han Solo after the events of Empire Strikes Back, specifically from Jabba’s Palace, officially sanctioned/supported by the Rebel Alliance or did Luke and company have to do it on their own? Lore Versus video request: Resurgent vs. Starhawk Tie Striker vs. New Republic V-Wing World Devastator vs. Vong Worldship Tie Silencer vs. X-83 Twintail Tie Silencer vs. Tie Defender (legends version) Keldabe vs. ISD II MC90 vs. Nebula class star destroyer Nebula class vs. Pellaeon class Majestic class vs. Bothan Assault Cruiser FOTR’s Mandator II portrayal vs. Subjugator Praetor vs. Subjugator EAWX: TR’s Mediator portrayal vs. Resurgent Starhawk vs. Bulwark MK III

[@spiffygonzales5899]

New Republic V-Wing World devastators EASILY ISD 2. In EaW Kaldabes were stronger because they could bypass shields. In lore ISDs had stronger hulls regardless. nebula class.

[@ntfoperative9432]

I'd say they had to do it on their own. If the Alliance was helping, they'd have a full task force, not just themselves

[@tracepercell5799]

I would love updates on your past legends videos. Especially now with the start up of the Canon context. I think more light should be shown on the new timeline, no matter how much we legends fans hate to put aside what we grew up with. We have to explore what's new as it is the future, and you revisiting your old videos would be a good step for the Star Wars community to take

[@masonkpiano]

You know what is crazy, and I mean that in the correct sense, is the fact that there very much could be a galaxy identical or very close to the Star Wars Galaxy. Maybe one reason we haven’t seen life in another galaxy is because there is a field of cosmic energy that prevents us from peering in and the residents from peering out. It’s a long shot but there may be a chance. 😶👀

[@madison-3325]

And the reason why we can’t use the force is because this Galaxy only has one planet that can sustain life and it isn’t enough to create the force

[@aperson1]

We hardly need special reasons not to be able to detect life in other galaxies. We can barely find life in the next star system over, let alone our own galaxy.

[@KommodoreKomrk]

Honestly, I love that after all these years, you still have that same amazing outrro corgi scene. Looking forward to many more years of that!

[@notablediscomfort]

I think it would just be a lot cooler if it was sort of how we see forests when we're kids. Like the galaxy is the backyard and outside the galaxy is the forest, and instead of being scared of monsters in the forest because you don't have good protection and we've heard creepy noises come out of the forest sometimes to comfirm our fears, they're scared because they've received signals or whatever that indicate there's forces far beyond what they're prepared to handle just waiting outside the galaxy.

[@andersonic]

I actually like when my favorite youtubers revisit old topics. Everyone evolves their style over time and even if there isn't new information the old videos don't necessarily do justice to what the presenter would be able to convey now.

[@AuthenticPeach]

It's definitely a topic that should be explored in canon. I would like to see some characters attempt to travel beyond the galaxy, and maybe something horrible may happen to them. Would be very entertaining to say the least. Would be an awesome idea for a fan film. If anyone is willing to team up to make such a thing, I am all ears. I am a big fan of legends material and have been sitting on a few film ideas to create myself.

[@swagcitydrips2hard930]

I love these types of videos Eck. In my honest opinion (and i say this as a VERY long time fan) these types of videos where you go in and discuss the lore and details of lesser known and even well known parts of Star Wars is very satisfying. I understand that it gets harder and harder to find material to talk about but maybe there is some way were (kind of like you did in this video) you can extrapolate on your existing content. Just an idea. Also, I cant say this enough but you are amazing at keeping the conversation about newer parts of Star Wars very cordial. Lately most of the conversation about the new Star Wars shows and movies has been staight up bashing and has begun to tire me to the point that I have lost interest in many peoples channels because of this incessant sentiment. You always find a way to discuss these topics in a very level headed manner and leave people feeling understood. Apologies for the essay, just felt the need to say it. As usual, love you brother and I hope your family is doing great. May the Force be with you

[@RageUnchained]

I like when you revisit older topics, I go back and watch those old videos from time to time anyway, and the fresh perspective you bring in these new ones is worth the view for me

[@avenuePad]

First of all Star Wars lore definitely lifted the galactic barrier from Star Trek. That said, the Star Wars galactic map and concept of the barrier is entirely two dimensional - as if you can only leave the galaxy at the rim edges and not from anywhere in three dimensions. Pretty silly. As a concept I like the idea of Star Wars exploring extra galactic territory. I also like the idea that hyperspace lanes disappear or get extremely scarce once you leave the galaxy.

[@aceclover758]

Space is 4 dimensions. Its obvious the barrier covers all the 3 dimensions at least otherwise, it wouldnt be a barrier in space time. You cant draw a 3D map outside of a hologram and even that is limited Dunno how its hard to get. Space is not something you can just go “around” to get to a destination. All dimensions of space are linked

[@robblerouser5657]

Maybe you could revisit this topic with the Hyperspace loop going to another galaxy in Ahsoka.

[@calebbauer9766]

I like the revisits. On this particular topic, I always heard that the Celestials made the barrier when they retreated from the galaxy. Of course, that's from old "Legends" canon, if I'm even remembering correctly at all.

[@__Theta__]

I havent watched Eckharts star ears in a long time and it felt so refreshing to see the dog outro.. it was like a breathe of fresh air thank you for continuing to make videos and for your commitment to our community ❤️

[@railfandepotproductions]

*star wars

[@tankacebo9128]

I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE a Star Trek-esque star wars special from either the Republic era, or the Empire era about a Venator or Imperator class Star Destroyer outfitted for exploration beyond the outer rim. if set in the Empire era it would give a very good way to show either the humanity of the people of the Empire, specifically the higher educated ones, and give a good showcase of day-to-day goings on among the crew of a Star Destroyer. It could also be a good setting during the mid clone wars to explore and possibly find anything to help with the fight against the CIS, in an expedition led by a Jedi Knight/padawan combo and all the shenanigans therein.

[@pirobot668beta]

Whack-a-doodle-idea: The galaxy and everything in it is a dimensional 'protrusion' into local space. To residents of the galaxy, going 'outside' looks really, really weird. For local space, there is a region of weird matter, energy and distorted physical laws. The boundary of these regions is "The Rim", as seen from the inside. Hyperspace might freak out or something at the transition? Could explain how beings and materials from beyond the Rim can resist the Force.

[@starsilverinfinity]

It doesn’t- the Vong could resist the Force cause the force rejected them so hard or something along those lines

[@tonysmith9905]

It's cuz this is actually based on real science. There is a "barrier" around our own galaxy, and others, where instead of the space becoming less dense it in fact gets even denser. So dense that it would destroy any ship we could build right now if it didn't have special shielding added on to it. What's happening is all the cosmo junk, dust, debris and other things, is actually colliding together in in their orbit near the edges of the galaxies, so they would grind any normal ship to dust. Legit, go look it up, it's either the Heliosphere...or the next bubble beyond that. I can't remember exactly.

[@ImTheReverse]

The Vong didn’t exist outside the Force and they didn’t resist it. They were cut off from the Force for their atrocities.

[@ItsYaBoiPhoenix]

I enjoy seeing you update older lore videos so I’ll watch as many as you put out

[@krisgonynor689]

Simple reason why going outside the galaxy would be difficult: gravity affects hyperdrives. The mass of the entire Star Wars Galaxy, as it spins on it's axis, could cause a massive gravitational disruption wave around the galaxy, making the use of hyperdrive impossible. There may be passageways through that barrier - most likely at the top and bottom of the galaxy, on its core of rotation - basically directly above and below the core of the galaxy, where the galactic gravity field would bend inwards on itself like the Earth's magnetic field does for us. The Vong may be able to get around this since they have such good tech to control gravity or they just used the polar "holes" to enter the galaxy. Like he said in the video, mass in our universe creates a "shadow" effect in hyperspace - the entire mass of the spinning galaxy could produce such a giant shadow around the entire galactic region. The satellite galaxies would orbit inside of this barrier and may actually increase it's effects due to their size and motion - maybe leaving a few openings, such as the one the Vong found to get in?

[@epochinfinitysedge5008]

You hit the nail on the head!

[@charlietheunicorn5383]

Lore and ship design are two of my favorite subjects covered on this channel. Keep up the great work.

[@glennchartrand5411]

While its never explained in Star Wars, in other Scifi series one of the main limitations of hyperdrive is you have to stay in regions of space where gravity is zero or near zero. You have to thread the gap between stars where their gravitational fields cancel each other out , then get as close to your destination as possible before the Star System's gravitational field pulls you out of hyperspace. Normally you can thread a path between the stars ,and that path is called a "hyperspace lane" ,but when you try to leave the galaxy you run into a huge problem... You have the gravitational field of a galaxy behind you and nothing in front of you.to cancel it out. So hyperspace lanes leaving the galaxy tend to curve back into that galaxy so the only way to leave a galaxy is to spend thousands of years traveling at the speed of light to get far enough from the galaxy to enter hyperspace and then you drop out of hyperspace thousands of light years short of the galaxy you're headed to. So its nearly impossible to leave a galaxy with hyperdrive technology.

[@Durzo1259]

This was what outraged me so much about the new Disney Star Wars lore: the fact that now hyperspace works anywhere in a gravity field, even inside a planet's atmosphere, which totally invalidates every SW scene where they needed to escape a planet to get past a blockade.

[@SaruTanku]

​@@Durzo1259 We could honestly just sum it up to better, more developed hyperdrive tech, allot of time has passed in universe in the new movies and the olds.

[@davidsirmons]

For awhile I've had the idea that the SW galaxies are captured and isolated by an extra-dimensional and non-corporeal entity, which 'compressed the matter of those galaxies and sequestered them for its own interests. Further, I had the idea that "the force" is not a universal power: it is peculiar to those captive galaxies alone, given randomly by the entity, which yet again does so for its own enjoyment, making those galaxies effectively an isolated experiment by that entity to simply see what transpires over eons. And that 'dark area' and navigational difficulties are safeguards in place by the entity to prevent its study subjects from escaping.

[@keithwinget3450]

This is quite literally true if you reckon the "entity" is the authors.

[@billbrink9618]

Damn Q!

[@willlasdf123]

I personally would like it to stay mysterious and Eldritchy. Someone or something was trying to lock something in the Galaxy eons ago.....or even more terrifying, trying to something from the great voids between galaxies out.....

[@matthewteague623]

"Ruin has come to our galaxy...."

[@bizmasterTheSlav]

It's probably the Ancients trying to lock Abeloth inside the galaxy.

[@AFox739]

Orks: Dis barriea ain't gonna keep us out! *Que spaceship battering ram*

[@chainsawlizard9528]

I like content like this, exploring content on the fringe of the EU that still has relevancy in the new continuity, or that could still theoretically be true.

[@RageUnchained]

I think a vong trilogy would be a good way to continue the new canon

[@thetalantonx]

Please continue to update videos so long as you have reason enough to do a full video on it. Include a brief summary of the previous video with a timestamp to skip the rundown if you've already seen the video, and a link in the description to the video so people can watch it first.

[@handreroux]

i started watching this video and it got me thinking, i would actually like a star wars horror movie. make it a stand alone, new characters, set it in the empire time period, make a movie of the death trooper book maybe, or with new characters.

[@StrongDreamsWaitHere]

If I were writing the Legends stories, I might suggest that hyperspace is a phenomenon created by gravity wells. So the farther away you go from the galactic core, the more difficult and dangerous hyperspace travel becomes, explaining why the Rim is so full of outlaws and dangerous characters. Trying to transit to an area that had no stars would be theoretically impossible.

[@bizmasterTheSlav]

you can also fly normally, without hyperlanes. which of course takes crazy amounts of time (like tens of thousands years) to travel to another galaxy, but it's quite safe as long as you don't collide with black holes or smth

[@Christopher_Wheeler]

That algorithm is on point with Ahsoka.

[@triplebog]

As long as there is new info I love a good revisit. In fact "what mysteries lay outside the edge of the galaxy" is such a cool topic I would love a video on that topic but not just about the star wars galaxy. Like do any other sci Fi series play around in that space like star wars does?

[@crowe6961]

There are the Halo Stars in Warhammer 40k at the fringe of the galaxy, which are verifiably full of all kinds of sketchiness and dead worlds showing signs of ancient interstellar wars. And the Tyranids are attacking from outside the galaxy. They've been scouting it for at least a few millennia, too. FTL navigation out there is difficult too because the Astronomican, which is the giant psychic beacon given off by the God-Emperor to give direction and bearing in the Warp, is weak so far from Terra.

[@michaelcrawford3663]

As long as you don’t take down the old videos I’m always happy to listen to a deeper dive or more info about something you’ve already done a video on.

[@CreepersNeedHugs]

It’s been so long since I’ve watched you, and I even forgot about the doggo outro! So cute!

[@Etnannarac]

Your star wars lore videos are keeping my love of star wars alive good sir!

[@treystephens6166]

For the old Star Wars

[@spadesofpaintstudios1719]

It would be interesting to see this more explored since we already know a lot about the main galaxy and how many more times do we have to have someone take over the same galaxy and fail you know.

[@WhoisPersona]

A Star Wars film set beyond the Galaxy. *STAR WARS* *B e y o n d*

[@CLSGL]

I have a theory. So we all know from the Star Wars movies that you can hear sound in space. People think it’s just classic Hollywood creative liberties, but what if space just works differently in their galaxy? What if space contains some kind of medium that allows for sound to move through? Here is where my theory factors in - I think their ships are designed around the space in their galaxy. That is, structural integrity, life support systems, etc. What if the moment they leave their galaxy their ships structural integrity fails, and their life support systems aren’t good enough? That’s why people all die or disappear when they stray too far. Idk. Just a thought

[@BurningBlazeBaguette]

I love it when you visit older vids, I can listen to you talk Star Wars all day

[@alisterfolson]

The Yuzhann Vong: our favorite hiding spot

[@tba113]

I for one am always down for lore dives into the weirder sides of the Star Wars universe. ...The spooky stuff, I mean, not the weirdness about why Jabba had a wardrobe of metal bikinis in stock.

[@starsilverinfinity]

Because he already has slaves so he had some in spare

[@tba113]

@@starsilverinfinity I mean, yeah, but that's just the opening to the creepy sort of weird when it comes to Star Wars. The weird questions that make you want to break out the brain bleach are things like why Jabba finds human-like women attractive enough to enslave them personally, instead of just treating them like spice, weapons, or any of the other disposable commodities he traffics in. The least-disgusting explanation is that he enjoys the power trip of humiliating slaves - but that isn't limited to just women, so it doesn't answer why Jabba surrounds himself with _female_ slaves. Other explanations start swan-diving into creepy Rule 34 territory pretty much immediately.

[@starsilverinfinity]

@@tba113 Oh yeah Star Wars is full of that, the Hutts themselves are Hermaphrodites (meaning they are both male and female biologically) and iirc they like women because of the power that women embody, abit like owning the biggest gems out of a friend group or something like that. There's alsos various brands of life-span altering drugs, vampires that seduce their victems before slurping their brain juices out through their nose, child slavery, it goes on Star Wars is abit too realistic in some cases for its own good lmao

[@rc59191]

Hope you do a review of the Clone Wars book Wild Space always thought it was underrated. Been cool to see a Clone Wars episode of Obi Wan and Bail Organa on their adventure together.

[@MunchPremium]

Imagine a jedi outside the galaxy he would lose his mind if the force is not constantly babying him

[@SpecialEdAlumni]

You know what’d be sick, Star Wars horror movie. I don’t know how it’d be done but a horror movie would be great.

[@TheWingland]

Fleet battle between Grand admiral Thrawn vs. Ender Wiggin Each one has an equal sized fleet with equally capable subordinates, and since Ender is from a different universe each has equal understanding of the technology they’re using. They are in command of Star Wars vessels. Pick a famous fleet of your choosing I’d suggest death squadron

[@davidspiller7977]

Or, the vast amount of space between galaxies. Seems like a better theory.

[@darkslayer1161]

Yay new lore

[@pinstripecool34]

Always loved the concept of whats outside the galaxy so many interesting/horrifying lovecraftian things like Abaloth and the Yuuzhan Vong.

[@randomdude8877]

Thats so interesting that hyperspace might work in the frame of the galaxy but not outside of it. Sure the physics implications of that are very vague and mysterious but i think that's a rather clever explanation to keep the star wars story and world tight.

[@wrayday7149]

I would assume it wasn’t feasible due to no known hyperspace travel lanes and the insane travel times required to map them. Also, the galaxy isn’t at peace and some a-holes keep inventing planet destroying tech so you can’t spend any time considering going out into the void.

[@nepspartan-7597]

And if it's not planet killing, they're just bombing it's surface to glass or sucking the life out of the population like a fresh drink

[@RedXlV]

For the vast majority of intergalactic space, hyperspace lanes would be a non-issue because there's simply no realspace mass to speak of. Almost all hyperspace anomalies are reflections of something in realspace. That fact that it's *not* corresponding to anything in realspace is what makes the hyperspace "barrier" around the galaxy so unusual.

[@Jayleon72]

Hold on, hold on. I have a question about this. I was watching the old video about why the unknown regions were unknown, which had the clip from the end of ESB, where Luke sporting a brand new hand hugs his sister while the watch the Falcon return to the galaxy to find Han.... ... I'll say again: They watch the Falcon return to the very far away galaxy from beyond the rim. Is there a canon reason for this? Now don't get me wrong, I'm happy for any answer. Here's the "but" That scene is ironic. The plucky rebels have had a bit of a kicking, Luke is yet to be comforted that the girl he's just lost to his best pal is actually his sister and he's just dodged abullet. But the plucky rebels are not beaten and take a moment to gaze at the beauty qof the very galaxy they are fighting to save. Somewhere in that galaxy is also Han and they are going to find him. Additionality pretty much any galactic map work a damn bases its galaxy on the lne we saw at the end of ESB. To say something like "that's not the main galaxy of the Empire its a neighbouring galaxy" would undo one of the best ending of any film in the franchise, so is there a decently thought out explanation they are outside the rim.

[@patricianoftheplebs6015]

That’s the rishi maze

[@Jayleon72]

@@patricianoftheplebs6015 Wrong angle Rishi Maze is towards Galactic North. that fleet is far lower to the galactic plain that the Rishi Maze is supposed to be. But that also highlights my point How does anyone get to Aurek (the name of the Rishi Maze companion galaxy) it's outside the galaxy, being an extra galactic companion galaxy, beyond the conditions that make it hard to leave the SW galaxy. This would be something they would need to sort if they want the "galactic barrier" to be canon instead of legends.

[@MasterKnight2K]

I want a what if story about someone making a hybrid clone using anikin and yuuzhan vong dna. With his force potential not being taken away by losing his fight with obwan and the anti-force effects of the yuuzhan vong, you’d have a being that would be a match for abeloth.

[@Boooozle]

Man I miss Legends...Vector Prime was my introduction to the EU

[@Zand3rParkour]

Revisiting and updating old videos feels totally reasonable. Especially if they are years old to the point I've probably forgotten them. It's just more potential content for you to make. Plus your audio quality has greatly improved since I started watching your content so I rarely go back anyway

[@RadiantSilverlighter]

Skip to 2:00

[@xPLAYR1x]

Revance for the win 💪

[@juliannieg2267]

Alright here we are after Ashoka’s season final

[@borgthepig]

1:02 what game is that?

[@dragontaha9495]

Star wars empire at war

[@Gu_edo]

Amazing rts game, awesome mods aswell. Space and land battles

[@tash1201]

I love revisiting the obscure stuff or anything that has been updated over time.

[@TooLateForIeago]

In both cannons, the galactic barrier is comprised to two interacting, dense, opaque fluids: handwavium and wedontwanttowritethis-tonium.

[@npierce14]

Where is the intro song from? I love the beat 0:13

[@saucelord3108]

It's Resonance by Home. My favorite song of all time

[@theedwardian]

Resonance - Home

[@jayworldjs]

If you like Synrhwave, click my name and then open the Smooth wave playlist. I've handpicked over 350 Synrhwave melodies...No lyrics!!! Check it out😊

[@TheGlooSniffer]

Darude - Sandstorm ~ Marco Rubio

[@FurbieSlayer.]

​@@TheGlooSnifferwhat

[@3RAN7ON]

7:09 so in other words this video is just an excuse to plug your podcast

[@DaRealWhiteChocolate]

Anyone here after the Ahsoka series?

[@devenchoudhary2671]

Yeah

[@DomEngines]

The outro with the dog absolutely killed me :'D I laughed tears and watched it like 10 times in a row. Hilarious :D

[@maximomartin2529]

The only one that was able to survive two hyperspace jumps out of the Star Wars Galaxy was none other than Thrawn. Anyone that went to the Unknown Regions, such as Kamino, Exegol, Mortis, don't count. The only canon one we have now is Peridea.

[@RandomGuy33369]

Why did Will Smith use an open Hand Because paper beats rock

[@appo9357]

But what about the 300,000 lost on Klendathu?

[@thewb8329]

The greatest horror of leaving the Star Wars galaxy is that you would have to get a life.😱😱😱

[@CaptianUrielVentress]

Very elitest comment but also so lazy can't even be funny.

[@CLSGL]

I have a theory. So we all know from the Star Wars movies that you can hear sound in space. People think it’s just classic Hollywood creative liberties, but what if space just works differently in their galaxy? What if space contains some kind of medium that allows for sound to move through? Here is where my theory factors in - I think their ships are designed around the space in their galaxy. That is, structural integrity, life support systems, etc. What if the moment they leave their galaxy their ships structural integrity fails, and their life support systems aren’t good enough? That’s why people all die or disappear when they stray too far. I mean people defend the sound in space thing as “Well, in the Star Wars galaxy that’s how it works”… but what if, quite literally, that IS how it works in their galaxy? Idk. Just a thought

[@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730]

These videos never fucking get old.

[@Yanrogue]

I had always hoped that I would get to see a mature star wars anime that went over the Vong invasion.

[@SomeDudeInBaltimore]

I have a speculation pulled completely out of my rear end: the galactic barrier is dark matter. Something that's been speculated to surround our own galaxy, and it interferes with the technology of the hyperdrive, either completely disabling it or destroying it.

[@roblammens]

I do like this theory that dark matter can mess with hyperspace, especially when it isn't dispersed by the gravitational effects of stars.

[@lukesearle1302]

When I read the Vector Prime book I read that to mean that they had run into the Yuzhong Vong. Outbound Flight was going after Jedi that had been taken in that area of space and the mad Jedi went looking for a fight and was willing to take innocents into battle with him.

[@NoName-li1zs]

I love videos like these and its too bad ecks only makes them occasionally. I used to love the old like ship vs series and the battle of the dreadnaughts

[@joshuamorales4589]

I love it when you update videos or have something new about old topics so keep it up. Especially this topic I find very fascinating