Overvolting BLDC motors/PC parts

[@Cskirt]

JLCPCB PCB Fab & Assembly from $2! Sign up to Get $60 Coupons: jlcpcb.com/?from=Cskirt I've learned a lot about about BLDC controllers while making this video, but I'm no expert and when I decided to go this route I wasn't aware about some limitations in VESC boards. I believe I'll have solutions to drive at higher ERPM with more stability for the next part, but if you have good knowledge in ESCs, feel free to contact me! I made this mainly focused on PC parts, which also let me use some old scrapped footage now that I finally could drive a HDD and fan to it's limits.

[@ianhosier4042]

What is ERPM and can you recommend a conversion software to convert circuit diagrams scanned in jpeg or tiff format into Gerber format?

[@Cskirt]

@ianhosier4042 erpm is the RPM * number of magnetic pole pairs in the motor, "electrical rpm". Basically the rpm/switching speed the controller "sees". So in a 14 pole motor, the ESC is driving at 7x the RPM of the motor. I don't have any experience converting an image like that, I just redraw the schematic, and you're probably better of making the PCB layout yourself than using automatic placement in my experience

[@ianhosier4042]

@@Cskirt what software do you use to prepare schematics? I started off using paint then PowerPoint and now I use a combination of PowerPoint and Microsoft draw as vector drawing packages make it much easier to do the connections once you have the components in place. The only save option these have is various image formats such as BMP, JPEG, TIFF etc. I never understood how these PCB companies know the sizes of components especially since most of my circuits are built using bits I find in junked equipment left in dumpsters. Of course this isn't an issue if you make your own PCBs at home and have the bits in front of you. I suppose I do end up doing manual routing but usually on paper as there isn't an easy way to draw boards in the above packages. I also noticed that these companies only accept payment in us dollars and since that isn't the currency of my country I would get stung by currency transfer fees and import taxes.

[@Cskirt]

@ianhosier4042 EasyEDA, eagle or kicad are some good software to use, you choose what size your components are (or download specific footprint files for the components you use), draw the schemetic and then place them on the board and draw traces how you like

[@ianhosier4042]

@@Cskirt unfortunately i don't have money for a license for these or to pay someone to teach me how to use them

[@Mike-77-YT]

Fun fact: Hard drives that spin up to 10,000 or even 15,000 RPM do exist. Examples being the MAXTOR Atlas, Seagate Cheetah, WD Raptor and Velociraptor.

[@notsoseagatey]

those are enterprise or server drives, not intended for consumer usage

[@Mike-77-YT]

@@notsoseagatey Not the Raptor / Velociraptor! It was available for the regular consumer (gamers targeted), and came in SATA as the connector. Most 10K RPM drives use SAS connectors.

[@notsoseagatey]

@@Mike-77-YT Yeah the raptor is a budget server/consumer drive

[@notsoseagatey]

@@Mike-77-YT There was also some other enterprise SCSI drives by fujitsu that did 15k and the seagate 15k.x series

[@noobsense.]

At that point you should just call it a jet propeller

[@destroyingwindowskris]

that fan was a drone for a minute lol

[@FakhrilA5F]

Bruh

[@g.vstunts9932]

😂😂ha ha . ​@@FakhrilA5F

[@PPlayerGSlayer]

Why can’t they just make drones out of pc fans😂

[@pavelstoikov3780]

@@PPlayerGSlayer u can try delta fans

[@SourceCodeDE]

Yeah

[@jordananderson8299]

The little prop sucking in the RPM meter was hilarious

[@tescoshortage]

6:55 Bro hit the rev limiter

[@tynewlin]

Haha car joke

[@Totskiechannel16]

😂😂😂

[@joelh.9839]

Yes 😂 i thought the same 😂

[@idkrandom-v8f]

Honda civic be like:

[@PPlayerGSlayer]

My Tesla model y when I add futuristic engine sounds

[@casemodder89]

that CD drive @ 25V aggressively throwing the disk back and forth sent me 😂😂😂

[@JamieCrookes]

Yeah, me too. It seemed genuinely upset as though it was in pain. 🤣

[@daoutbox9884]

Applying power to whole drive will make it malfunction in different ways . Funny the way it refuses to accept the disc of death

[@deathforefox]

That fan had so much lift, incredible!

[@angrytoastcrunch]

8:13 cd VTEC kicks in

[@joelh.9839]

Finally someone understand 😂👍🏼

[@tourist6290]

I can smell the burning circuits and components from here! The CD eject mechanism and explosion had me laughing! Thanks for that!

[@graphick-t4e]

3:24 bro really said "I BELIEVE I CAN FLY!" 💀

[@ShatteredHourglasss]

PREPARING FOR TAKEOFF

[@Bill_Bacon]

You're lucky that PC and computer component motors are so finely balanced. CDs will break apart and fragment at speeds approaching at about 30,000 RPM. Use safety glasses kids! 😁

[@Cskirt]

I had safety glasses, helmet, and was hiding under the table expecting more spectacular fails 🫣

[@De-M-oN]

@@Cskirt Which did worry the most of these? I feared your HDD platter will explode like no tomorrow at above 30k rpm 😀

[@IANHANDS]

Glasses will only protect.your eyes . Wouldn't like to imagine a shard of CD stuck in my neck

[@holaqueaseyatusabes8656]

1:57 How to make your HDD faster than an SSD in three simple steps:

[@Thexiledemon]

😂😂😂

[@ChaoticEnigma-]

The complete lack of vibration shows you just how well balanced those discs are.

[@Thexiledemon]

@@ChaoticEnigma- they're made with a high amount of precision since there are chance that a guy with a power supply would give it 400 Volts to spin it faster than a 2004 F1 engine.

[@daoutbox9884]

​the early multi speed drive were famous for exposing defects in discs

[@daoutbox9884]

They would shatter in the drive

[@Magoggles]

I wouldn't have thought the floppy drive would get up to that speed. Nice.

[@ToyotaKTM]

Do you collect the smoke, so that you can reinstall it in the motors or do you replace it with generic smoke?

[@LMBLNCR]

Just-short-of-qualified auto-electrician here, we replace the smoke with better built aftermarket smoke, as putting generic and OEM smokes back in doesn't tend to last as long as a well engineered alternative. Hope this helps

[@lansing786]

😂

[@The_Ambababush.]

what type of smoke? i'm missing something here.

[@lansing786]

@The_Ambababush. when an electronic part gets too much voltage or burns up, smoke is released and many call this "magic smoke" or the "components spirit." If you capture it's spirit, shamans from the old world in the order of ohm can reverse polarity and summon the spirit smoke back into the device. Rendering it functional again. 😀

[@The_Ambababush.]

@@lansing786Alright, how much have you had to drink?

[@Perplexer1]

9:43 That DVD drive got crazy violent. 🙂

[@slymechanic7823]

frustration be like

[@Ironman-BB]

😂

[@Roboseal2]

That drone motor with the prop made so much thrust that the RPM meter flew off 😭

[@frommarkham424]

It's kinda interesting how you uploaded this just a day after the crowdstrike outage

[@FI-TECH-250]

Maybe he uses a a Mac for edeting

[@richwater296]

@@FI-TECH-250 it only affected buisnesses

[@farmervillager1376]

its almost like not everyone was affected by cloudstrikes outage! 😮 crazy i know

[@RebrandSoon0000]

lmao

[@Someguyy]

Maybe learn that not every windows computer was affected by it. Only corporate computers were affected, Linux boy

[@Lvtdgb_40m]

I was laterally asking my brother "can Hard Drive motors burn out like a normal motor?" an hour and 30 minutes later, I get this video . more proof google/youtube listens to your microphone ☠💀

[@unknownboi4414]

Meanwhile I was parallely asking my sister about it

[@ezykeilcooley1428]

​@@unknownboi4414yes the Google theory

[@casemodder89]

if you put 260V across, they will ! 😂

[@ezykeilcooley1428]

@@Lvtdgb_40m when we gonna hit light speed bro

[@AsherJohnson-k1i]

Lol

[@GalenlevyPhoto]

4:14 I was waiting for the hard drive platter to explode but it didn’t. 😮

[@halo64654]

CD would blow up before the HDD. And I think that was around 20k RPM, can't remember who did it.

[@C4ST3R3T3RN4L]

peppejam, at 23k rpm. ​@@halo64654

[@steveskeletonneii6336]

@@halo64654mythbusters did im pretty sure

[@Carwash1989]

@@halo64654 Slomo Guys

[@whatdidIjustsay]

​@halo64654 was it the slo mo guys?

[@GhostHammerofficial]

1:59 what’s that noise is the “disc” hitting smth? Just wanna know

[@ljrice1198]

It’s the tape on the disk hitting “smth”.

[@Nintendo3D5]

It's the tape on the disk hitting the read/write head end stop

[@randomuser8219-g2g]

3:25 - what a potato pc playing youtube at 144p sounds like

[@androidmarshmallowahh5035]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂❤

[@daoutbox9884]

The pop corn of death watching video of toy lizard trying to escape death then the PC is next

[@rustygears6211]

That tachometer really just said "c'mere and gimme a smooch!!" at 5:18 lol

[@suezq74]

That’s a funny one! I laughed at the sight of your comment! And the video too - Riley

[@rustygears6211]

​@@suezq74 who's Riley?

[@suezq74]

@@rustygears6211 it’s me the co-owner of this KZbin channel - Riley

[@julianrusso345]

I overvolted my disc and now I go from loading Windows in 1 second to 0.01 seconds just by putting my disk at 7000 rpm 😊

[@bititboi]

💀

[@RebrandSoon0000]

I'd love a 32,000 RPM HDD lol

[@patchworkkid24]

maybe it can reach sata ssd speeds spinning that fast haha

[@Ragepro3D]

Yes I would love servers with hdd’s that draw 430w each lol

[@Matthew597]

I am wondering about read and write speed with that

[@De-M-oN]

@@patchworkkid24 Even if. The major advantage of SSD are the access times and the SSD would still win there

[@gelvy-q2f]

This video is disproportionately terrifying to me. Thanks for creating and sharing.

[@azkaputra1408]

the CD Eject💀

[@ianhosier4042]

Funny how it still worked after the capacitors popped

[@AsherJohnson-k1i]

K

[@user-not-identified]

6:55 you enter the jungle

[@androidmarshmallowahh5035]

Nah you entered the arcade machine

[@katarzynakuc3390]

This is a car going wutututu

[@Tigrou7777]

10:32 Intel : it probably need some microcode / VID table update

[@dieseldragon6756]

Nice to see a UKCA-certified motherboard operating *exactly* in conformance with that specification! 💻🇬🇧🔥😋

[@Ollieiow08]

Love how all the capacitors blew in the cd rom drive at the end yet the tray still worked 😭

[@Fpvdroneandbrud]

2:44 sounds like a asc t128

[@Nintendo3D5]

I'd say Thunderbolt 1000

[@Nintendo3D5]

Me: just don't spin me fast, Ok? My bro: Ok. His Ok: 5:32

[@FivesShorts-zbe]

The pc fan is a new design helicopter

[@rajesh-karmaker]

Bro just made the computer fan a helicopter😂😂

[@TheAfricanGarage]

I'm looking forward to seeing the next part , especially for overvoltage the Hoverboard motor. That thing handled 84volts pretty damn well

[@Richydudleofficial]

5:56 Sounds like an LG Washer

[@LoganT547]

And my old Fisher and Paykel washing machine too haha

[@Nintendo3D5]

Kinda like my Hitachi washer too

[@LandonTheBugkid]

6:18 the wheels is 10 inches at 1275 rpm is 38 mph

[@patchworkkid24]

Thanks for doing the conversion. I was thinking about that

[@CezarLisboa1990]

10:27 😮😮😮😮😮 that was really crazy. Thanks for showing this to us

[@TheOfficialDorianelevator]

5:23 this turned into a washing machine at the end

[@androidmarshmallowahh5035]

I smelt it

[@clockstudio174]

Hahah! Also im CZ EZ

[@TheOfficialDorianelevator]

fun fact : i was actually talking about the hoverboard one

[@clockstudio174]

@@TheOfficialDorianelevator looll now I understand

[@MyDayRoutine]

If It was a train motor wow 😮

[@pocketgear]

the tachometer flies away 😆

Your garage must smell a treat

[@WeatherMan2005]

That hard drive sounded pretty cool

[@KuranGamerTV]

5:33 A fast Wheel to go faster!

[@andrejs9112]

HDD spinning so fast you can see data being compressed to the side physically. 😂

[@jay7264]

Loved the cd drive having a seizure opening and closing

[@ElenaKostova-by9qp]

The weird sound of a drone motor? 6:48

[@Barteks2x]

That CD drive from 9:15 was *very angry*

[@BRUXXUS]

That Noctua ram was seriously impressive!

[@pathaze4299]

That's some high speed data right there 2:40

[@tofayelahmed3966]

Dude over driving high rpm dangerous motors and holding it with down using duct tapes and filming it with mobile phones. How brave this guy is!

[@ke_ag]

You can make your outrunners last longer if you take them apart and epoxy the magnets in place, throwing magnets has killed more of my motors than anything else

[@jamesslick4790]

6:52 that motor starts laughing, Then totally lost it's mind. LOL. I need to make that sound my new ringtone!

[@subhajitghosh2422]

Continue these destructions , loved it ❤

[@pusnirizda5481]

Now this is a quality content

[@Sinrise]

Your reflective tape is throwing off balance pretty severely. I wonder if there isn't a pen with reflective ink that would have less mass?

[@De-M-oN]

Try it on a DirectDrive Steering wheel and set Force Feedback to 100% 😀

[@shafiullahtahsin7006]

Very informative video, really shows the danger of over voltage on computer parts i guess

[@JuanGamer0202]

Could u explaing how did you wire the hoverboard motor? Got a spare one here and I've been trying to get it to run for weeks

[@Cskirt]

What issues do you have when you try to run it? I just used the three phase wires because I didn't care that it's a little rough at low speed. If you want to use the hall sensors, it shouldn't be too hard to open it up and see where the wires go?

[@JuanGamer0202]

@@Cskirt honestly I just never used a three phase motor

[@Cskirt]

Do you have an ESC? You need a controller to run these motors, and the three phases doesn't matter which order you connect them (flip two of them if it's running the wrong direction)

[@kyky121911]

The hard drives and motherboards hurt my heart but for the fun of science and seeing how long things last

[@narenchris711]

Nice end of the year fireworks from the PC overvoltage.

[@ianhosier4042]

Funny how the driver board popped after the first motor flew apart

[@Stoney3K]

Motor came to a sudden stop, and the back EMF blew the driver transistors.

[@RandomContent57]

1:57 sounds really cool actually

[@LichaelMewis]

Really enjoying your videos. You can tell the engineering that went into HDD's was solid as that 7200rpm hd went over 30K rpm and looked stable. Btw what tachometer are you using for these tests? I just bought two off Amazon to detect my RC helicopter main blade RPM (two blade) and I don't like either one. They are very inaccurate or just don't work at all. And finally what are you building with the PCB board?

[@Cskirt]

I'm using the UT373 tachometer, recently changed to another brand of reflective tape, works much better... I've also tried one of those cheap tachometers that's all over Amazon and chinese websites, but that was really unreliable and suddenly stopped working. The PCB I built was a vesc based ESC to be able to run the motors at higher voltages than the built in ESC

[@LANHAMZ_]

2:41 sounds like my ps4

[@Viperman200221]

Now you did it! You let the smoke out, LOL!

[@TheCoolV1994]

How to make your PC a drone. Just run fans at 80v

[@ITZNOTAdum]

The PC fan turned into a drone ☠️

[@clownbooface2624]

Am here for the hover board motor, they are insanely tuff built

[@studioscastle]

10:16 My windows 7 when running videos in 4K:

[@spontanvideok246]

Woooow. 5:56 UFO SPACECRAFT Sound.😂😂😂😂

[@PCrailfan3790]

Or a washing machine.

[@lonpowley]

I'm glad you do this. My wife would be pissed off.

[@ikonix360]

For the motherboard overvolt, Photonicinduction would be proud.

[@electrothecat07]

5:15 The open fan sounded like a tornado siren lol

[@SkylarsTerribleMemes]

why not use a paint marker instead of tape?

[@Nintendo3D5]

Idk

[@dominomon7117]

7:12 i really wish I could trust someone as much as you do trust this duck tape

[@_null_pointer]

5:55 it sounds like lg washing machine

[@ConfidentialMeerkat]

Damn, that fan took 60 to 80v like a champ. Oh and POP GOES THE WEASEL!!

[@electronicsfixer]

3:12 we have confirmed that a noctua fan at 24 v sounds exactly the same as a delta fan

[@KuranGamerTV]

6:49 KV Motor revving up like a 787B's Rotary!

[@Ervytron]

5:54 it sounds like LG washing machine

[@electronicsfixer]

I thought the same probably same amount of coils

[@DreStyle]

shoulve brought that mobo to a PC repairshop :P

[@Roadiedave]

You should put tape on the opposite side too. The weight difference with these components does make a real difference. Just divide your RPM by 2

[@dvd371]

5:19 why no one noticed this

[@orionwatts9200]

I did bro its so funny lol

[@AsherJohnson-k1i]

Lol

[@orionwatts9200]

Lol

[@floydeggleston5558]

I can't seem to catch the right frame, what is it?

[@AllLoudNation365]

It came in for a kiss lmao

[@ishandeepsingh2798]

3:26 now i know why sometimes my cpu flies.!!

[@ElenaKostova-by9qp]

Rip tachometer 5:17

[@KuranGamerTV]

5:01 Nissan GTR Launch Control sound like a 930 KV Motor

[@TUMMY_emergency]

What happened to the reader with the white propellers?!

[@LawpickingLocksmith]

Smoke is nice, and fans stronger than rev meters?

[@androidmarshmallowahh5035]

8:21 I thought it would, y'know, explode the disc?

[@De-M-oN]

It indeed does. But needs more rpm. I believe 20k was necessary

[@Nintendo3D5]

Fact: he was hiding under the table when doing this

[@windless_pace2]

0:20 I didn’t expect that to happen

[@ATK_J.Y.S_I.N.D_Offical]

Awesome! And new subscriber! 😊

[@machinerylab-315]

In a brush motor, the first thing to go is usually the brushes, but yes you can have more in depth failures. In brushless motors, the only thing really to fail is the coils.

[@Nintendo3D5]

Or the controller 😉

[@draatman]

and that is how you test a product 3:00 be for you sell it to you clients wander if they will onnet the warranty ?

[@JordanYoh]

very useful specially for Inventors! Pls try to tell us the how we can try this at home for later check by ourselves.

[@Nomad_za]

How do you even get a hard drive to spin so fast. I have always wanted to make a fan using a hard drive motor.

[@joelh.9839]

Please give the Headphones-Users a warning 😢 Tinnitus after 20 seconds on Low Volume.

[@กวินหนูอ่อน]

5:10 The propeller is installed incorrectly

[@Gsrsourkrause]

10:39...do you think the motherboard is gonna be ok?

[@jyvids]

Oh yeah. Clean windows install and it's good to go

[@Nintendo3D5]

Nah, just reinstall the RAM boards it'll be fine

[@teresashinkansen9402]

Now I wonder if its possible to make a molecular drag vacuum pump with HDD platters

[@EKUL34]

These were normal 12v pc fans right? could you try PWM fans

[@mattrogers6646]

PWM (4 wire) PC fans are just 12V DC with another wire input to allow for less than 100% voltage. If you run PWM at 100% or above, it is the same as non-PWM or 2 and 3 wire fans, so the result of overvolting/overamping would be the exact same.