Overwatch 2: How to be a PRO Lifeweaver! - Advanced Guide

[@NickPsy]

I really wish Lifeweaver's controls were similar to Kiriko's where healing and damage were bound to left and right click simultaneously rather than switching weapons like torbjorn

[@HydroniteTB]

That’s what I was thinking, I main Kiriko so it’s a little weird having to do that when it’s definitely able to be like Kiriko’s style of controls

[@thompsontom5]

That would be ideal but I think the issue is he has too many keybinds already for things like life grip, the pedal platform and his dash.

[@jaredbradwell5226]

What if they liked dash to something like holding the jump button?

[@lysergicaciddiethylamide6127]

@@jaredbradwell5226 double tap like Hanzo

[@alextheonewarrior]

They gave him too many abilities for that. The man looks like a LoL character, both in character and mechanics

[@jayanimations494]

I really wish his flower platform would descend when a person gets off it, the way it works now just makes it seem like a personal one time use

[@Spook_the_Tineye]

Agreed… who knows? They just might do that someday!

[@armando5994]

i mostly use flower to help my ashe get a better sightline for more headshots but the problem is, sometimes she falls off before even getting fully on, i wish the flower was more stable when first set

[@user-ml9pp8xf4q]

@@Spook_the_Tineye well well well

[@CursedMoistMan690]

Pro tip, make sure to teleport your tank behind your team during a fight, this will help your tank escape easily, also make sure to teleport your Widow into the open so they can hit more shots easily

[@wakilnerd]

Sure!

[@deineutterful]

the trickster

[@shoulderoforion115]

Its actually hilarious how often my tank thanked me when I accidentaly grabbed them

[@yaboymike2274]

Lifeweaver is what early OW1 Symmetra should have been.

[@MaybeFluffeez]

Perhaps that’s the approach they were making for Lifeweaver?

[@xlbthedemigod5662]

But that doesn’t matter anymore because she’ll eventually be reworked in the far future.

[@Henbot]

Nar, even she felt better

[@mkwsoxfan]

If they can now justify utility supports they could honestly give sym shield gen as an ult again, and maybe a passive that grants your team conversion of 50 regular HP to shield health that regens naturally and call her a support 🤷‍♀️

[@ReaveIdono]

​@@Henbot What!?

[@autil7393]

I’m not the best when it comes to game sense, but I feel like this hero really does incentivizes you to think outside the box and think of what your enemy and team does, which then carry’s over to other heroes for better game sense overall.

[@lucasinazumai9873]

Playing Lifeweaver during training, I managed to find the best mouse settings. I swapped right click to switch weapons because I sometimes panic and hit right click to shoot as if I was Kiriko. Life Grip is swapped to scroll down and it feels better since it's like you're actually trying to pull your teammate to you. With mouse with extra buttons, I put petal platform on one of the extra buttons. This works for me, but I'm not sure if it works for everyone.

[@unArthodoxDR]

I know it's an old video, but it's been the most helpful so far. Surprisingly rarely guides provide a detailed mentality of the good [guide subject] player. Not just "Do this and do that", but rather "This is __why__ I'm doing this, and this is __why__ I'm not doing another thing." Despite many changes to LW, not to mention the entirety of Season 9, this video's been a blessing. Thank you for the insightful guide!

[@1sickgsx]

That last bit at the end, for an advanced guide, it would be great if you could give an example of good vs bad comps to utilize them in.

[@nothingworks2966]

Perfect timing as always on your part :) Top notch video!

[@the_lilac_lady8960]

Although lifeweaver’s petal blocks Ramatra’s ult his punching attack will still go through the petal and can damage you so don’t just use it in the middle of his ult and stand on the petal thinking that he can’t damage you.

[@patricktoney5246]

Fire strike and coalesnce also

[@paindepressionandinsanity7108]

BRO THE UPDATW JUST DROPPED 😭

[@soundwavekidd3529]

thats what i was thinking plus they not pro players Lol

[@MrProdigy810]

CCs get to play like a month early

[@BouncyKnight720]

Lmao

[@nailinthefashion]

And yet they've played dozens more matches than any of us sooooo....

[@tf6026]

Ball seems like a nice life grip target because u can save him quicker than he can save himself but he can also get back in the fight quickly as well and won’t be too perturbed if he’s not where he wants to be

[@royistheboi2638]

I like how the examples you are giving are things that actually happened in a game and you show them. Really cool and helpful

[@XxBugufanXx]

his damage is not only too low, but swapping between healing and damage slows down his potential quite a bit

[@Dankflamio]

This character seems so awesome to me. Mei's wall was amazing because of its mobility options and vast creative utility and I feel like Lifeweaver is like the support version of that. Amplifying the mobility and life-saving aspect at the cost of fewer attack and enemy manipulation tactics.

[@willwunsche6940]

After some playing of Lifeweaver I find him very fun but don't really strongly like his primaries yet. Think they are more on the weak side (still very fun just not as fun most other hero's primaries to me) Especially compared to someone like Kiriko Zen or Lucio, even Moira. But this is only my initial impression I am sure I will get more used to it over time

[@bryancrose5414]

The first step to being a pro Lifeweaver 1: Grind to unlock him.😂

[@uzzielmeneses7631]

Or pay

[@Uncharted8907]

@@uzzielmeneses7631 nah the battle pass skins aren’t worth it this season

[@nailinthefashion]

​@@Uncharted8907 thank you for sharing your opinion, this is the best pass so far imo

[@marquisepixley684]

​@@Uncharted8907I disagree with you

[@Uncharted8907]

@@marquisepixley684 go ahead I’m just saying I don’t like any of them

[@lucan465]

Loving this hero so far. So much more fun than kiriko in my opinion. At first I was like ‘oh no, a magic, flower man, pretty boy’, but after watching his origin story, I’m digging his aesthetic, and character design and the style of his abilities. Loving that he’s a big-brained hero so far as well, in terms of playing him.

[@slandergames9494]

Kiriko isn't even fun Imo lol

[@jackharmon7532]

Something I found helpful if you are on controller I binded my weapon swap to the Y button and I made the ultimate right on the dpad. Since it’s an ultimate that makes you also hit right trigger to build the tree, it’s pretty easy to get used to. Especially if you play shooting games where Y is weapon swap.

[@Sh0ckWolf]

HEY let everyone know this that when jumping with petal platform you get a jump boost.

[@nightwolf7347]

On console, change previous weapon to L3, and interact button to anything on your d-pad, it will make switching weapons much easier

[@varietyboypsn]

i did that instantly like i did for mercy 😂 so much better

[@Dr.Mango24]

Low healing numbers on any support piss me off.

[@gerharddamm5933]

He got buffed I think

[@eva02ow27]

Im a simple man. I see good content, i hit like. Ty

[@gns942]

Really one of the best new characters that the dev team has introduced, the repositioning capabilities are exactly what was needed to distinguish this support from the others.

[@SquirtMac17]

Highest skill ceiling in the support role to date. The playmaking ability is top tier clutch.

[@custi]

Lifeweaver is soooo hard hero to play properly. Gotta stick to my brig and zen on comp for the next month before I even think about trying him there.

[@slam_dank_jam8356]

Nobody talks about Overwatch the way you do. I’m always learning something new.

[@RANDOMLYPWND]

I’m confused as to why his dash mechanic isn’t like hanzos so you could have an alternate fire instead of swapping weapons

[@Chris-Moore501]

You can also use the pull to bring respawning allies back to the front lines faster!

[@gmanz5]

PRO GUIDE SEASON LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!!!

[@freddyP300]

Who do you think is the best support partner for him? Ana for healing plus repositioning? Or Baptiste for pulling into immortality fields and high ground lanps? I feel Zen and a Lucio would be too slow for heals. Brig protecting him with her buffs? Or Just do Mercy or Moira to make up for his low healing?

[@rustypotatoes]

I think mercy lifeweaver for big dmg but low heals, ana for consistent heals, kiriko i think would be a good pair because of healing and mobility. I'm not sure about bap, maybe bap when you're running rein otherwise id prefer ana but thats just me.

[@Henbot]

Lucio and Ana will work with his low heal

[@willwunsche6940]

I think it depends more on the map and comp you are playing into/against

[@fruitlion8]

I've found he works well with Brig. She can afford to be more aggressive and can conserve packs for major emergencies, since he can burst heal teammates the same way. He can also get her out of danger once Rally enters.

[@jaailynzechariah6289]

​@@HenbotLucio? Lol

[@StoicScape219]

The first thing he needs fixed though is dropping the healing flower on death. Supports have enough of a target on their backs.

[@i-am-mercurial]

We tested in firing range it doesn't let you drag your tm8s over edges, so don't worry about the well

[@davidgabrieltaylor]

Glad you feel confident enough to tell the entire world how to play a hero the BEST that released a few hours ago. Must have been one hell of a test server you played for you feel that good on a hero barely released into the world. Good for you.

[@masterwizardham7655]

Love it man! Glad to hear someone actually see his potential and know that he is a strategic hero. Instead of jumping on the ban wagon that he sucks.

[@ricegod7812]

I've been using his Thorn Volley as a sort of suppression tool on enemies hiding behind cover.

[@lilithius9410]

This is such a wonderful " Know your teammate's capabilities and your enemy's strength " character.

[@bloodangel7731]

After playing a few matches with him I found that lifeweaver is a very team focused hero. He doesn't have alot of damage output or healing but his main strength is his utility which helps him enable his teammates to make plays while keeping them alive. He's going to be really good in teams that communicate with each other and almost useless to players who play solo

[@hoodednoir3235]

You must be playing him wrong. He’s so easy to heal with and his damage close range shreds even some tanks. I average 12k healing a match while dealing 6-7k damage

[@Cthu1hu]

I love all the tactical choices you can make with this character and look forward to playing him. Thank you for making this guide!

[@enyx9638]

Freedo you the best!! Thanks for everything.

[@Dnarte_]

After some calculations in a 60-second period, releasing the heal at 0.5 seconds (37.5 HP) provides 3600 HP of total healing, while waiting for the maximum charge of 1 second (65 HP) results in 3120 HP of total healing. Releasing the heal earlier at 0.5 seconds yields a higher healing output over a minute.This is including the time it takes to deplete his ammo and reload.

[@untapped8776]

I'll preface by saying that I am excited for Lifeweaver and I don't think he'll break the game, but... I think a lot of content creators are missing that the "trolling" aspect of Lifeweaver isn't going to come from people making genuine mistakes or misplays while otherwise trying to play him well. What most people are afraid of is intentional throwing and trolling. If you happen to piss off your Lifeweaver, he can most certainly re-create the example given in this video with Aspen. There's nothing stopping a LW troll from intentionally pulling you into danger, off a ledge, or away from a good spot mid-ult. And on certain maps like Midtown first attack, you can quick-swap heroes to reset the cooldown on Life Grip and repeatedly keep you in spawn. Again, I don't think it's going to kill the game, and ultimately I think Lifeweaver is a good addition to the game, but a lot of takes I see seem to have the assumption that your Lifeweaver is always acting in good faith.

[@untapped8776]

They removed the cooldown reset. Big W from Blizzard.

[@SamWhite-pg7bj]

I actually found him really fluid, but I also play Val and switch my weapons with scrolling all the time, I think the biggest issue with them maybe making his healing and thorns primary and secondary is his weapons auto reload when you swap off, it would mess up that rhythm

[@ewakaflaka6804]

I love him, it’s a bit funky to get his kit comfy but after a few games and maybe a couple remacros I enjoy him

[@marlyxmar]

His heals feels really low and on top of toggling between heals and dmg it feels even worse. Pull and lift are awesome tho! I had to change heals and dmg to right click and the lift is on mb4 now

[@tacojonny]

Super helpful, thanks

[@zachdl1]

Awesome guide! Can't wait to play him tonight!

[@whitecanary1727]

extremely helpful

[@evodannyt]

Please blizzard, left click heal, right click damage. Double jump for dash.

[@connorberry6377]

Surely we haven’t had enough time with the hero for an advanced guide to really be possible?

[@rosen1t]

right

[@snipingway]

Streamers got the hero way before anyone else.

[@BadAtPickingUsernames]

So far my take is that you can absolutely tell if the person trying out Lifeweaver is a healer main or not.

[@XXIIXIIIXXXIXXXIX]

One additional thing....you will be the MAIN TARGET more then any other player. For some reason people hate this character and will consistently ignore others to just get to you. It's insane 😂😂😂😂

[@videogamefreered]

Life weaver is so busted against Zarya. Petal platform completely negates graviton surge. And if you don’t have your platform, you could always pull out a teammate with life grip

[@Snuggles11223]

Everybody says “I’m a support not a healer” and I think that saying should shape the way future supports are made. We have tons of high healing supports, I think we should have more supports that do very little healing but have tons of utility. Hell if given the right abilities I think it could be possible to have a support with such good utility that he doesn’t need healing. Idk just a thought.

[@SprinterOnline]

Some tips on tuning the controls would be nice. Found defaults a bit clunky.

[@Heropsychodream]

turn right click to switch weapon and flower lift to a mouse button.

[@NSJ90]

This character is the "just make sym a support already!" character.

[@ginpachi1]

I pulled a Soldier to high ground, he looked at me, and then Leeeeeeroy’d right down into 3 people 😂

[@willwunsche6940]

That's hilarious 😂

[@Aaron-ww3ov]

The controls with the weapon swapping feels off, not smooth at all. Breaking the lift with a different buttton is also a bit weird. I think it would be a lot smoother to have the dodge like hanzo, healing and damage like most other healers, left and right buttons and the lift break on the same button, like sigma.

[@kaizerk4321]

To me, the best thing to do is to change the keybinds immediately. holy moly the default binds are so clunky

[@ReaveIdono]

They are absolutely abysmal imo. Alt fire should definitely be dash. Just like Tracer IMO.

[@Anonymous-dx6gg]

Me charing to heal Team: Mr bean waiting meme

[@pokvirus5705]

I'm so glad to see Old man Freedo get excited again

[@exsolutionz9399]

i love the character cause he is my play style all the way. my friends all said it when they saw him. Yup we know who you maining lol. the buffs make him alot better i dont know if he needs a heal buff. if so maybe a 10-15% increase the most.

[@shamardaniel4819]

I never really understood how a advance guide comes out for a character that’s not even a month old lol. But thxs!😆

[@ravenruppie96]

If you do bursts of 40 health you can do more imo instead of a full charge

[@RosebudsASled]

I don’t understand why the dash isn’t a double jump. That would free up a button/key so the needler could actually be a secondary fire.

[@samo2585]

I wish there is a video for Lifeweaver (the console version)

[@Blake_murray16]

I’ve had lifeweaver save me so many times when I’m in a team fight and suddenly everyone else is dead and it’s just me and lifeweaver is able to pull me away so I don’t instantly die as a result, it’s great!

[@judemoss3472]

He still feels very clunky to me, but this video helps a lot. Another issue I have is I wish his flower platform was positionable like his ult or torbs turret. The charge to heal thing is weird, but maybe having more than a 65 output would be nice.

[@FirebyrdXX]

I cant believe nobody has mentioned, to my knowledge, that healing and Needler are a swapable equip, like Mercy's pistol. I thought it'd be like Kiriko with M! as heal and M2 as Kunai. This might break the character for me because so far I cant stop accidentally throwing out elevator flowers when I mean to do damage. It super kills the flow I thought he'd have

[@ReaveIdono]

Just give yourself time to get used to it maybe?

[@snipingway]

You can always rebind your keys in the settings menu. I rebound mine to swap my weapon with m2.

[@willwunsche6940]

I have to agree with Blackstorm. Trust me if you just give it more time it'll be fine. For many people Kiriko was brutal to learn at first due to past heroes knowledge interferencing learning from being different. He's only been out for like a couple hours when you made the comment, you give it a few/couple more play sessions you'll be fine and your brain will learn to adapt better at switching between heroes

[@willwunsche6940]

I have mostly stayed away from changing keybinds from default and usually just like to learn the base default unless I really like an idea but changing it too is a perfectly good valid option if you want. I like learning for the most part with only some exceptions. Zen for example I have his heal/damage orbs keybinds on scroll up and down on top of their normal one for situations it's easier to scroll spam them on rare occasions in fights. I considered changing for tank Doomfist but ended up deciding against it

[@snipingway]

@@willwunsche6940 I have small hands and I can't reach all the buttons easily unless I rebind everything, so it's just a fact of life for me, lol.

[@paindepressionandinsanity7108]

Anytime he overjumps just pull him back

[@sharksfish8889]

They can make the dash be a double jump on cooldown like Hanzo and just put the damn right click on the shift so that we can have right click for dmg. Please

[@xlbthedemigod5662]

I’m curious where this goes

[@DefNotHydro]

If u play on Xbox change life grip to LT trust me it works

[@KynaruHelio]

people are going to troll with life grip just like mei's wall... sure there will be times where they will make things worse... but when they save you... it feels so good

[@Hao-hi3yb]

Already getting trolled in some ways by a Lifeweaver (or unintentional, I dunno). Was gonna charge a hog off the map and he pulls me away before I fling hog off the edge

[@kimlipslips1982]

I truly feel bamboozled. I was SOOOOOO hyped to play him. He's so flamboyant and witty and handsome, but that's really all he has going for him is his wonderful interactions. In the preview videos his kit weirdly made sense? But after playing him for over 3-4 hours, not even Buddha himself can be a pro Lifeweaver in his current state. Miss Thing is hands down the FUCKING WORST character in the game; slap some Fs across the whole board. -His weapon/heal swap needs to vanish. They need to be combined into L1/L2, and the slow on his heal needs to be removed. -Shrink his model so he isn't bigger than junker queen -Rework his "dash" or buff the range and remove the heal, or buff the heal, or lower the CD. Or tbh just throw it away and give him a new ability. Something like Sigma's kinetic grasp and Baptiste's aoe heal. As it stands he has very poor combat potential and survivability -His troll ass flower-drop-on-death bs shouldn't even be there; it's going to heal the enemy more than it will heal your teammates because he can't defend himself for SHIT -His ultimate initial heal is nice, but the HoT's intervals feel too long; nerf the healing but buff the intervals? -His weapon... lmfao. T-R-ASH dollar store, bootleg ass Needler minus the homing and 'splosions -The platform is really weird, but maybe if the only thing it had to look forward to once used wasn't crumbling it would feel impactful? -His pull is literally the only thing keeping this elementary school science fair project glued together Overall: -10s across the board

[@hoodednoir3235]

0:53 just no, it’s better to charge up to 35 then 65 sometimes as it’s faster and if you can’t manage to heal with life then play someone else. I average 12k healing a match with life while dealing damage

[@riki2993]

Why do i love playing lifeweaver? 😂 I have 10 hours on him now and im starting to understand how to utilise all of his abilities

[@Michael-pn4xu]

Ok after playing him, I think everyone was over-exaggerating about him.

[@ricniclas]

Yeah, and he is pretty fun!

[@boorchboorch]

the controls/keymappings feels like they're decided by an intern. this feels like the first "half-designed/beta" hero release from blizz.

[@markberanek4739]

Fredo will never miss an opportunity to shit on Moria lol

[@michaelrossitto830]

Don't forget you hide with the flower pad

[@Bysentenial]

Can you lifegrip a dva bomb? or grip a hog while he's hooking?

[@BuyMyBeard]

11:30 big missed opportunity to c9 the Ram by putting a flower under him

[@ihavecrabs56]

move his needler to his alt fire. remove life grip. make his platform his e. give his platform 2 charges. give him a new passive. i just fixed him yw.

[@Wraice619]

I can understand people worried about LW and his griefing potential with his grip. I had wondered how it would be, and literally in my very first game with one today, they yanked me off my high ground perch as Cass on numbani defense. There was no reason for it. Round was just under 10 sec from starting and we were all set up and ready. He just decided at that moment to pull me down, then use his lift to get himself up there.

[@TruGmER17]

100% a troll lol but any hero can troll the game. You could have rolled off high ground yourself. Don't blame the hero, blame the player.

[@ESPA333]

I just wish people would use the high ground my petal provides instead of activating and then immediately jumping off. Nothing feels worse than someone activating it on purpose to deny me using it than jumping off and bagging, well maybe throwing a hissy fit cause I pulled em out of a bad situation

[@PublyoRaymundo]

My biggest problem with this grip is, who are "you" to decide that the "other" player is on the "wrong" position? or that he is over-extending? No matter what is said, this is just not OK. For a game that removed CC saying that "things that remove your control over the hero are bad" to implement this hero's skills is showing a lack of vision on where to go now...

[@yoshitheonly]

(Massive Console Problem) For us, Lifeweaver has way too much going on crammed into a controller. Even when remapping, switching between damage and healing isn't intuitive. Speaking from a console perspective, I wish they'd just remove his dash and make him faster. Then you'd be able to remap so he'd damage and heal the way kiriko and moira do. Besides, the hitbox issue would benefit from a flat speed increase tradeoff.

[@redacted8008]

I kept putting our soldier up on a pedestal, and he immediately jumped off. Every time.

[@waverazor]

Maybe cause the character is too new. Player doesn't know how to react

[@jasonmension3979]

I'm finding hes good at healing in dive comps as long as you can prioritize your own safety, because his auto aim heals are amazing at keeping, echos, tracers and genjis up, and junkrat is always a pain In the ass to heal because of how erratically he moves while fighting but with life weaver I can easily heal him even as hes flying upwards off his concussion mine lol

[@paindepressionandinsanity7108]

Imagine winston and lifeweaver

[@nailinthefashion]

Cursed yo yo comp Winton, Sombra, Pharah, Mercy, Weaver 😭

[@Emilio-lz5ux]

I personally enjoy ulting and then switching to full dps unless emergency heals are needed

[@ScootamonCoasters]

Yes, we are Pro-Lifers

[@SeleneDemon]

My only suggestion when it comes to playing Lifeweaver is to NEVER, EVER Life Grip a flank character unless they are in a dire situation, like a sleep or sigma / rein ult, because it screws with how they play, and pulling them could be more detrimental and hindering to them.

[@Snow-io5sb]

If they buff his healing values a bit Im going to love this character.

[@RudeXII]

5:50 is easily the most important tip in this entire video. LEARN that

[@GRtheforbiddenone]

you're so right, im 100% gonna make sure everytime i life grip i pull them straight into oncoming damage

[@kdotbby]

I still don't get how they said he was "A Main Healer"....

[@TruGmER17]

The term "Main Healer" is used to describe a position in the support role typically used in Pro Play. In Pro play there is a "Main Support" and a "Flex Support." The Pros use the Main Support title as a hero who is more focused on Healing and Utility and typically describes heroes that are less mechanically difficult and more focused on "game sense" vs Flex supports which provide healing but also specialize in "flexing" over to doing damage to the other team. In general these are the current break downs of Main vs Flex Supports: Main: Mercy, Lucio, Brig, LifeWeaver Flex: Ana, Bap, Moira, Zen, Kriko. In general Overwatch teams perform better when one of each is selected although not set in stone. For example in the JOATS meta we saw Brig/Lucio dominate the support role so it was a double Main Support meta. At the end of the day its simply a way to categorize the role positions at a higher level. On ladder in the metal ranks, team composition doesn't really matter over individual skill and playmaking so the general population thinks a Main Support is the support that's supposed to have a high healing output. It's confusing and I don't blame you for not knowing since the general player base thinks the same thing.

[@camtho7117]

Joats

[@Bagelking3900]

Ngl being saved by life weaver is suck a good feeling. I mainly play tank and playing yesterday. I almost died so many times and life weaver saved me. But lowkey it’s disorienting cuz idk where I am

[@Yea___]

The first time i got pulled by lifeweaver i thought i got lagged out of the game. the loss of control his ability does to you feels weird