Overwatch Advanced Zenyatta Guide: The Deadly Support

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@cnote7408
@cnote7408 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a Platinum Zenyatta player and would like to add how valuable the right click can be. Fully charged, it can deal up to 200 damage (400 if all are headshots) and can be useful at the beginning of a match to melt a player. Recently I was playing KoTH and ended up eliminating the enemy Reaper just as he came into view at the beginning of the match, resulting in an immediate 5 vs 6 which led to our team winning the fight and initially capturing the first hill. Another use is against Torb turrets or Bastion, where a quick peek and burst will take them out with a much lower chance of being picked off. Also, if the enemy Mei has just hidden in her Ice Heal, if timed right she can be solo taken out by a charged up shot that pings the head once or twice.
@restlessmind8921
@restlessmind8921 8 жыл бұрын
i killed a zaria yesterday like that xD
@cnote7408
@cnote7408 8 жыл бұрын
Restless Mind Nice! Just got to time it right so she doesn't shield it and get supercharged. :)
@restlessmind8921
@restlessmind8921 8 жыл бұрын
yeah but it was kind of random tbh as they were coming out of spawn on hollywood :)
@cnote7408
@cnote7408 8 жыл бұрын
Restless Mind If you can randomly get a pick even 5% of the time it's worth it right? :)
@restlessmind8921
@restlessmind8921 8 жыл бұрын
definitely
@skevoid
@skevoid 8 жыл бұрын
You listed Genji as a good harmony orb target. Anyone that plays healers regularly knows that it's Genji's job to get low on health and call for heals while being absolutely sure to stay out of your line of sight.
@fireblood5177
@fireblood5177 8 жыл бұрын
While being in the middle or behind enemy lines. And on the other side of the map if possible.
@ChrisJones-yt8zp
@ChrisJones-yt8zp 8 жыл бұрын
Need healing. Need healing. Need healing. Need healing. Need healing.
@potato1341
@potato1341 8 жыл бұрын
skevoid I'd always go for tanks or someone who's gunna go upfront and take damage or who'll need health the most, like Reaper, Roadhog and so on. I try not to heal flankers cause they'll disappear out my sights, get the orb removed before it's even useful and if they stay alive, they'll either call out to me to heal them and put myself (usually as the only support, also the entire team) at risk of get trapped and die. So yeah. Heal with the guys who you know will take damage and whose job it is to take damage, like D.Va, Reaper and so on :D
@aduner3645
@aduner3645 8 жыл бұрын
that is so true ha ha :D
@kris220b
@kris220b 8 жыл бұрын
while having 5 support classes as the rest of the team genji-support meta
@lagiacrus1180
@lagiacrus1180 8 жыл бұрын
As a Zen main, this was great.
@0PageAccess
@0PageAccess 8 жыл бұрын
Rein main here! Respect to u dude!
@0PageAccess
@0PageAccess 8 жыл бұрын
Not A Doctor yes
@username6008
@username6008 6 жыл бұрын
No kidding
@PeachIsland418
@PeachIsland418 5 жыл бұрын
Lagiacrus11 same
@AlRoderick
@AlRoderick 8 жыл бұрын
The big projectile hitboxes work in Zenyatta's favor, if the enemy are bunched up you can score a lot of hits just hucking orbs in their direction. Also, discord amps all damage, so your quick melee is way more effective than normal. I've kicked so many Genjis to death I swear. I like to play Zen on defense with Torb, the armor pack makes Zen super tough and since he has shields it's not constantly in need of replacement, and Torb's own weapon and the turret both benefit from the discord if you can toss it on a flanker.
@6kunio8
@6kunio8 8 жыл бұрын
I got to remember that one, I always seem to forget about the melee.
@reichling08
@reichling08 8 жыл бұрын
The amount of times I use the kick to finish a tracer, genji or lucio is insane. SO useful.
@aegyodonkey
@aegyodonkey 8 жыл бұрын
The kick as a final blow is indeed very much fun - and useful. It is also very satisfying to end High Noons with a kick.
@sunsetzerotwo8551
@sunsetzerotwo8551 7 жыл бұрын
Alexander Roderick i just got back into overwatch, i'm in the silver bracket rn but honestly tanks just like up and i discord one after the other and they all die
@omerlord0
@omerlord0 8 жыл бұрын
Just to add an example on why transcendence is vital: I've had the perfect test yesterday. I was in a solo queue in Nepal and immediately went Zen, since I've mained him since the open beta and he's a pretty much my default, main character. Close to the end of the game, we were playing on the Nepal map with the smallest temple- you know, the one that's not indoors and isn't a fancy dome. It came down to pretty much this: Our team, with me, Zarya, Lucio, Reinheardt, Genji and Mei The enemy, with, as far as I can see, A Zarya player of their own, Roadhog, Pharah, Reaper, Lucio, and someone else, but not a Zen. It was approaching overtime and we held the point. And then, a perfect storm: Their team, with a very coordinated attack, placed a graviton surge, catching most of our team. On the exact same moment, our Zarya fired her own Graviton Surge, so both teams faced eachother, on opposite entrances to the point, almost everyone caught. Naturally, the moment I heard Mother Russia saying she's gonna take me to her black hole gulag, I ulted. No one else ults. Just gunfire. And then, the killfeed exploded. Blue on the left, Red on the right, names popping on the screen like mad. Athena yelling "TEAM KILL!" No one died on our team. I believe this is a great case study since the greater difference between both gravity bound hunks of flesh and gunfire was one ultimate. And it made such a difference. Sadly, I don't have a recording software on my PC, so I didn't catch the event as it happened. I had to take a highlight on my phone without the sound, maybe I'll upload it one day. It's one of my proudest moments as Zen.
@MostafaElSakari
@MostafaElSakari 5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@H20fulman
@H20fulman 8 жыл бұрын
My only problem is when the enemy uses the "Fuck you Zenyatta" team comp, which involves a Tracer, a Genji, and a Reaper. Because Zenyatta has a wider positure because of his position, he is essentially a floating ball, which I feel is in favor of Tracer and Reaper's weapon spread. Genji is usually a persistent bastard that is a nuisance to hit if he is actively dodging me. It is really devastating towards Zenyatta if your team does nothing about it. I was on a team where the McCree could not hit the Tracer at all, and of course she always comes to me. I can usually get her to around 25% health, but then she just recalls and kills me. And you have no idea how many times a Reaper wraith forms, floats toward me (since he has a slightly faster move speed in wraith form), and unloads his shotgun as soon as he can, and my team seemingly doesn't care. I have tried using alt fire, but it doesn't work too often.
@Kooliow12
@Kooliow12 8 жыл бұрын
I swear yo I feel you bro those 3 are a pain as zen
@cleansweepgaming2564
@cleansweepgaming2564 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I always pick Reaper as a Zen counter. In other news, I was playing Zen yesterday and I double-Discord-headshotted a Reaper. He went down to 1 hp and walked over a full heal and killed me >:/ and the worst part was the friendly Zarya standing behind him not shooting him or shielding me >:O
@schitzie
@schitzie 8 жыл бұрын
In that case the enemy team is running three DPS which limits them to either two healers or two tanks, not both. If your team is anything resembling a standard composition, you should ask for a bit of protection from characters like Roadhog, Zarya, or even McCree who can assist you against flankers. Any flanker will pretty quickly melt against a Zen+1 under the effects of Discord. Positioning yourself such that you can more easily spot these flankers AND that your tanks will be the first threat they encounter is key: you can return fire and assist your tanks in countering these flankers, and your would-be assassins have the unenviable job of dealing with a constantly healing 500hp hero that now does 30% more damage to them while a robotic monk hurls magic orbs at them.
@ZeroPointAlpha
@ZeroPointAlpha 7 жыл бұрын
Better add Doomfist to that list. I've been solo-ulted and fist-fucked by Doomfist more times than I care to remember just in the past few days alone. He either gets you in one shot with the right-click, or he ults you, or if you actually manage to dodge his ultimate he just right-click charges you and insta-kills you anyway. :/
@dmar3651
@dmar3651 8 жыл бұрын
I fully agree with this guide. Anyone can spam a discord orb on random targets, but knowing WHO is priority and When to switch the orb to a Newer priority, for both harmony and discord orbs, is what makes or breaks a Zenyatta. You are there to Support your team. Key word here is "Support" and not "Heal". Zenyatta helps his team "Win the fight, by making the enemy weaker and more likely to Lose the fight". People will always appreciate you and what you do if you know how to play a Zenyatta. But be warned. The enemy teams will also Mark YOU if they know you are helping out your team well. McCree, Hanzo, Widowmaker, Winston, Roadhog, Pharah, Soldier and Reinhardt. These heroes will specifically mark you as a priority kill target, even over a mercy, lucio or even ana, if they feel that you are too dangerous to be left alive. All in all, great guide.
@mattnorris7124
@mattnorris7124 5 жыл бұрын
I've had a lot of games recently where I have been wrecked by Zens as Sombra by just not getting to my EMP quick enough or getting melted after copping an Orb of Discord after I've hacked the enemy tank.
@gabrielibarra5551
@gabrielibarra5551 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, too many times ive had a low health reinhart charge torwards me, maybe its for a diffrent reason tho
@Enlil5
@Enlil5 8 жыл бұрын
As a zen main myself (I also play other heroes well but zen is my best) I really like this guide and even when I have played him so much I can still learn new things from the guide. Really well done.
@YourOverwatch
@YourOverwatch 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks man - E
@arbaks3124
@arbaks3124 8 жыл бұрын
As a Zen main myself, I second that and thank Your Overwatch crew on their great job.
@barretwallace9806
@barretwallace9806 8 жыл бұрын
If you "main" a hero, you're playing Overwatch wrong.
@secondpath5148
@secondpath5148 7 жыл бұрын
Barret Wallace not true, It's not bad to only pick up one or two heroes and learn to play them well.
@plow9719
@plow9719 8 жыл бұрын
I have seen a zen get over 20000 healing in a match...I have personally out healed mercys. his heal may not seem to great but if you stay on top of it you can do a lot.
@willh8870
@willh8870 8 жыл бұрын
My average is 5500ish. ;-;
@plow9719
@plow9719 8 жыл бұрын
agreed, i like my zen to have a little help with healing too.
@Icathiann
@Icathiann 8 жыл бұрын
I main him in comps and I pull 9-10k healing everytime. If you are doing below 7k or so healing in a full comp match then you are slacking. You MUST have your orb with someone at all times. I like to keep mine with the tank if not much is happening, and with a dmg dealer if they are dying or a flanker if they are about to go behind the enemy to kill a bastion or whatever.
@kalebdegroot8869
@kalebdegroot8869 8 жыл бұрын
Lucio isn't a main healer. Ana or mercy are.
@minseokss
@minseokss 7 жыл бұрын
lucio is the support i always get the most heals on though? and i play a lot of support usually. hes an excellent healer wym
@bryanleebmy
@bryanleebmy 8 жыл бұрын
The fucking Winston save at 4:00 literally made me shout out loud in glory, holy crap. Your Winston was amazing :)
@b.055-bot6
@b.055-bot6 8 жыл бұрын
Advanced guide for Reinhardt would be greatly appreciated.
@YourOverwatch
@YourOverwatch 8 жыл бұрын
It's on the list, have no worries - E
@TetrisKing
@TetrisKing 8 жыл бұрын
Right click and stand in front of the payload. Kappa
@mmelesco4305
@mmelesco4305 8 жыл бұрын
The Man Who Only Comments ffc
@CheesyCheeser18
@CheesyCheeser18 8 жыл бұрын
Love these, most 'advanced' guides just explain the abilities for 80% of the video then offer about 5 tips, but these cover the actual advanced stuff. Keep up the good work!
@sleshstamp
@sleshstamp 8 жыл бұрын
I noticed what really helped me in this video is that when you are in team fights with Zenyatta you actually put the discord orb on tanks LAST. I like how you prioritized discording attack characters like Genji and McCree as well as supports, then shifted to focusing down tanks. This made my Zenyatta gameplay MUCH more effective. Quickly killing threats is better than trying to melt those tanks right off the bat, and it's also important to kill people on their own harassing the back line. Thanks!
@xylophobiaa
@xylophobiaa 8 жыл бұрын
this guide not only taught me some things but also confirmed a lot of things i was unsure about how to play him. i can now play zen more confidently.
@andrewfox4467
@andrewfox4467 8 жыл бұрын
Best guide I've seen on Zenyatta so far, and one of the smartest strategy series out there. Looking forward to more characters covered!
@dakgoss2023
@dakgoss2023 8 жыл бұрын
I was just looking up a Zenyatta guide and this was the first video I saw when I opened the app. Talk about good timing 😁
@YourOverwatch
@YourOverwatch 8 жыл бұрын
Here to help :) - E
@stryfes6312
@stryfes6312 8 жыл бұрын
#HarambeSavesLives
@spicywheatbread6769
@spicywheatbread6769 8 жыл бұрын
Papa Harambefu
@gabriel8542
@gabriel8542 8 жыл бұрын
#LivesSavesHarambe
@AdeizaSama
@AdeizaSama 8 жыл бұрын
I'm still in awe! It's how it's just happening in the background like it's not important... THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT CLIP!
@lipidi1542
@lipidi1542 8 жыл бұрын
LOL that made me laugh
@jkdking12
@jkdking12 8 жыл бұрын
Bra someone give that Winston a medal he the real MVP
@MrSpuddyThomas
@MrSpuddyThomas 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this! I have over 100 hours of game play and I still learn things from every one of your videos!
@maxjmh795
@maxjmh795 7 жыл бұрын
3:10 was probably the best thing I've ever seen in my entire life
@graygower7844
@graygower7844 8 жыл бұрын
As a 40 hour Zenyatta main, I gotta say, this isn't a half-bad guide, but, I think that one of the most important things to mention is when you need to get up in people's faces and do work. Sometimes you do need to do that. If a rein is almost down, and you are near him, then get behind his shield and finish him off, because your teammates may be too busy to do it, and it'll come back to bite you in the ass if you don't. Going after enemy supports in team fights isn't a bad idea either, a lot of the time.
@LinkXCourage94
@LinkXCourage94 8 жыл бұрын
yup i agree. had to do this plenty of times on rein as zen. its pretty satisfying when a support kills a tank lol
@JohnSmith-op9jv
@JohnSmith-op9jv 7 жыл бұрын
K
@SethKolbePrefect
@SethKolbePrefect 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Zen is capable of huge damage and people don't realize it, without discord its about 115dps and with it he does 150dps and headshots arent so difficult to land with a forgiving hitbox so you can output 300dps on tanks pretty easily which is why he's a hard counter to all tanks
@CrysiCrysis
@CrysiCrysis 8 жыл бұрын
This mostly confirms everything I've figured out alone. I've been playing Zenny for ages and have not used a guide before. Gives me some great confidence that I kinda figured out what you had to say already. :)
@BlackAnno3397
@BlackAnno3397 8 жыл бұрын
I started playing zenyatta today. It was love at first sight. I absolutely adore his playstyle, just chilling in the backline right beside a torb and literally commanding my teammates picking off an occasional kill on someone.
@trombone101
@trombone101 8 жыл бұрын
Dude that Winston who saved you from that Rein was crazy!!! I literally almost screamed, "DAMN!!" like the guys from Friday and realized it was 12 o'clock at night. lol.
@officialdeejaysclub
@officialdeejaysclub 8 жыл бұрын
I recently learned to main Zenyatta. He's so fun to play.
@HeyY0uPikachu
@HeyY0uPikachu 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot for bringing out a up to date guide on zen, I've been maining zenyatta alot lately and this really gave me more perspective on how to play him better!! (:
@Handplottedblackhole
@Handplottedblackhole 8 жыл бұрын
4:00 HARAMBE'S REVENGE. HE DIED FOR OUR SINS, AND NOW HE'S BACK.
@rezex2470
@rezex2470 8 жыл бұрын
Actually Jesus, the son of God, died for our sins
@Handplottedblackhole
@Handplottedblackhole 8 жыл бұрын
Rezex God is a sham.
@rezex2470
@rezex2470 8 жыл бұрын
I Kiss Girls Agreed!
@MrCoppertop101
@MrCoppertop101 8 жыл бұрын
I really like these style of videos from you guys can't wait to see the rest. Something I know I would be interested in is more videos about specific strats, maybe map or comp specific and when to use them. Something like different ways around the first chokepoint on volskaya industries or Eichenwalde, or more like your dive comp explanation video
@Julian-rt9qs
@Julian-rt9qs 8 жыл бұрын
Three videos into exploring the channel and I'm subbed. These guides are comprehensive as fuck and very helpful to the person looking to get over the edge between "decent" and "dangerous" player.
@sixstringjakedestinyyoutub9454
@sixstringjakedestinyyoutub9454 7 жыл бұрын
New to the game, got it cause of the sale. I'm liking Junkrat, Reinhardt, and Zenyatta. This was short, clear and cohesive, and extremely helpful. Much thanks, liked and subbed!!
@BeenoR6
@BeenoR6 8 жыл бұрын
Wow this channel is just spectacular! I love the guides and the in depth guides like the pharah jump one. Would love more guides like that! Keep up the great work!
@thegamestreak
@thegamestreak 6 жыл бұрын
Nice guide, I just started and I already know zenyatta is the one for me so this did help in a few areas I was lacking in.
@rlyytinen1985
@rlyytinen1985 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, as always. I really look forward to these every day
@thehoodedhero5452
@thehoodedhero5452 8 жыл бұрын
This video is one of the best I've watched. Totally agree with you on every section of discussion.
@caru93
@caru93 8 жыл бұрын
Played a few games and saw how strong he could be for the team. Glad I picked up on the general gameplay while using him(still need to get better at reading the flow of the game though, and should maybe be more aggressive). quick, simple explanation. very well put together. thank you.
@bottledspace
@bottledspace 8 жыл бұрын
4:02 - One of the best saves I've ever seen in this game.
@p-townhero
@p-townhero 8 жыл бұрын
Tbh the reason why I loved playing Zenyatta since Overwatch came out, is because he can be played as a Strategian. From behind you always have an eye on whatever is going on, and your range even complements this idea.
@jacobduran8997
@jacobduran8997 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a Zen main and this guide really helped me understand how to use him even better. Thanks!
@diegocastaneda9980
@diegocastaneda9980 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video, really putting out there that zen is not only for heals, but is hard for the team to see what intentions zen has on which character to focus. You are in deep trouble if you don't have communication with the team. Great video
@koala9112
@koala9112 8 жыл бұрын
WHAT'S LADY GAGA'S FAVORITE ZENYATTA SKIN? RA-RA-RAAAAAA
@GamingEthos
@GamingEthos 8 жыл бұрын
can u guys give tips on how to counter a reaper mei combo that ive been put against a lot in ranked. due to mei's buff and reaper being...well reaper a lot of the time our team has difficulty beating them when they work together. I've been working on mecree as i feel he may be the only saving grace but just need to see all my options before forcing myself to master him.
@Sullivancas
@Sullivancas 8 жыл бұрын
I think that some good pharah play would help here. Reaper can't really touch pharah, and pharah can fly high enough that meis walls and icy spray aren't a problem. However, you will still have to dodge icicles so do be careful of that
@allahbless2278
@allahbless2278 8 жыл бұрын
maybe a roadhog to separate them?
@Sullivancas
@Sullivancas 8 жыл бұрын
Raul Saucedo roadhog v reaper is not a good matchup generally
@dihoxide
@dihoxide 8 жыл бұрын
+Christopher Sullivan true although with good teamplay he would be a good option for nulifying the mei
@Sullivancas
@Sullivancas 8 жыл бұрын
dihoxide most of the time when I play mei if I get hooked I can survive the first shot (since the 250 health) and can just freeze up afterwards, once I am done healing I will have my wall ready and can wall them off as soon as I reappear allowing me to go back to my team. Roadhog may disable or delay a mei for a bit, but hes not that good of a permanent solution
@sheenabiko
@sheenabiko 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this! I enjoyed your tips. I'm new to Overwatch and Zen is one of my favorites.
@lionidas4902
@lionidas4902 8 жыл бұрын
Also having a good notion on the travel time of the projectiles is essencial
@spidey1fan79
@spidey1fan79 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much c: I'm starting to like Zen and this has made me gain even more interest in the hero and I'll see if I can implement this guide into my gameplay as improve with him
@Nat3ski
@Nat3ski 8 жыл бұрын
Nice guide. Perhaps nothing i didn't know at heart but its nice to have it confirmed.
@romanfath
@romanfath 8 жыл бұрын
i gotta say that just gave me that extra knowledge i was searching for to get better at zen thanks
@faithjohnson2024
@faithjohnson2024 8 жыл бұрын
Just got into Zenyetta and I am loving him.
@krypticvoid
@krypticvoid 8 жыл бұрын
Very good guide man, very well done. Zen has been my favorite hero ever since the beta, and it's for the reason, which you so nicely summarized, is that he's the perfect mix of DPS but still there to support your team. I've tended to play characters like the Druid-type characters, good support, decent dps... master of none, but flexible. Additionally I like the awareness and multi-tasking needed to play Zen. My favorite hero by quite a margin. Very well done!
@jhonnycake1
@jhonnycake1 8 жыл бұрын
I'm good about keeping my orbs out and about, but the positioning was the hardest part to learn. I started by playing as far back as possible as Zen has no escapes, but I realized I was too much of a target for flankers. From the video, I got the sense I need to play Zen on the back line of a team fight and help more with pushes rather than only take out the out of position enemies on occasion. Cheers!
@Blackr1ver
@Blackr1ver 8 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this guide! The guides you all provide are fantastic and well explained. Thank you so much for this guide! Any chance you guy's would be doing coaching or creating a group in which other people can play with you to learn team mechanics or teamwork based plays in say a custom match or as a group in a quick-play? Much love.
@RainbowPowerRangerX
@RainbowPowerRangerX 8 жыл бұрын
As someone who likes to do a lot of callouts, I find Zen is perfect for me. His orbs allow me to set the pace of battle, and his position in the backline gives me good view of the battlefield. Plus, it's super easy to focus teammates when you can base your suggestions around reasons rather than just acting like you're ordering them around. "Pull back" or "Don't overextend" becomes "Fall back so I can heal you" or "I can't follow you that far up." "Focus Mercy" becomes "Mercy's discorded." People are so much less likely to go on tilt when you phrase your ideas as you supporting them rather than you telling them what to do. This means that a good Zen can essentially save games by focusing an uncoordinated team on teamplay and being supportive when things seem dire. And because he's in the back, he's got a better view for doing that than Mercy does, and more DPS for covering some of his team's slack than Lucio does. There's less need to shout "protect me" and hope your team follows through when you can protect yourself (though you should still alert your team to threats in your backline). Even in games that go poorly at first, a few FRIENDLY (keyword FRIENDLY) "we got this, we got this" encouragements and "this enemy's here, this enemy's there" announcements can work wonders.
@clayton9874
@clayton9874 8 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, and lots of good info! I've been starting to pick him up in qp so that I have another support option in comp, I will be rolling some of this in to how I play!
@blegend1268
@blegend1268 8 жыл бұрын
4:00 He may be dead, but he's still looking out for a brother in need. #HarambeSavesLives A true hero.
@DSpiritwolf
@DSpiritwolf 8 жыл бұрын
This is the way I see it, Zenyatta is a support pusher not a support healer. There have been support classes in many different kind of games where their focus is to actually help push. Adding a damage amplifier on an enemy team and keeping a team member steadily healed are key items for pushing forward. Hell even his Ult is great for pushing in team fights.
@SethKolbePrefect
@SethKolbePrefect 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, his ult is best used defensively though since you have no attack while ulting. Which is why its smart to throw out your orbs before ulting
@throwaway-wk9oh
@throwaway-wk9oh 7 жыл бұрын
This helped me out a lot. As I decided to main Zen for season 5
@diaco423
@diaco423 8 жыл бұрын
this whole channel is great, ty for all the info
@inderet4118
@inderet4118 8 жыл бұрын
A good Ana grenade can destroy a zen ult. But it just doesn't have enough range to hit every enemy with it
@delphynenull2136
@delphynenull2136 8 жыл бұрын
This video helped me improve my Zenyatta game so much.
@jungwoochoi3517
@jungwoochoi3517 8 жыл бұрын
Great video! One other target I like to have is Zarya for the orb, since Reinhardt and her tend to be part of the death ball when Winston is not picked. Her own personal shield regeneration after 3 seconds of not taking damage and a harmony orb, a good Zarya will just be a massive wall of effective health. I agree on the ultimate as responsive as well, leaving yourself out of the fight for transcendence is a big dps loss despite it being a good initiator at times. Ideally you discord orb the Genji then pop transcendence though. Finally for the footsies, and distance, I generally try to be behind the last hard cover besides Reinhardt. This means I can peak if need be ahead, yet have a way or two out to real cover unless he gets pinned or shield is down, etc. Or on Koth maps, off to one side hiding and peaking both ingresses is usually good too.
@twilightknight123
@twilightknight123 8 жыл бұрын
After playing Zen enough, I'm come up with a nice reminder for myself every time I get into a stressful situation. I discord orb whoever I would put a harmony orb on and vice versa. Sure it's an easy thing to remember, but it's nice to only think about one thing during a hectic team battle. Basically, who you put orbs on doesn't change. It's just what team they're n that determines what orb they get.
@AdrianGK47
@AdrianGK47 8 жыл бұрын
A tip he didn't mention is that his secondary fire is very underrated. Going behind cover, charging your orbs, and then peaking out of cover to release him is such a huge instant damage dealer! Most people don't expect it either so for me using this gets me huge killstreaks all the time
@BlueFalc0n66
@BlueFalc0n66 8 жыл бұрын
Subbed. Like your analysis. Straight to the point and informative.
@claespetersson1812
@claespetersson1812 8 жыл бұрын
Something i would like to see is a advanced Symmetra guide. I think that is one of the only heroes that i havent tested out really since i am not too sure on what to do or on which map it is useful. Would be nice to see a guide like this on Symmetra.
@KCswiish
@KCswiish 8 жыл бұрын
one thing you didn't mention was switching discord from E to right click. I did this a while back and it is a massive change that helps with your mobility and consistentcy with discording targets.
@sortofcephalopod8972
@sortofcephalopod8972 8 жыл бұрын
you should make a guide about if junkrat is viable in comp
@fiveyenyato6001
@fiveyenyato6001 8 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@RappingRain
@RappingRain 8 жыл бұрын
I use him quite a bit and help win games for my team. He's extremely viable when the enemy team has flankers and divers.
@stof455
@stof455 8 жыл бұрын
+RappingRain I find junkrat good against a rein and team damage.
@RappingRain
@RappingRain 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Blackson , he can disrupt enemy deathballs with his mine. So you are correct.
@clintjensen
@clintjensen 8 жыл бұрын
Is there a choke point on the map? Yes? Junkrat is viable.
@Gerry9000000
@Gerry9000000 8 жыл бұрын
Fantastic guide. Tank/Support main here, but Zen is my weakest - possibly because of the mechanical skill aspect. The tips in this guide should help a lot.
@tinyraptor1239
@tinyraptor1239 8 жыл бұрын
Helped my Zenyatta play a lot keep up the good work
@tombullard6167
@tombullard6167 8 жыл бұрын
it's awesome you got a lot out of the video but how could a video.posted today just watched already increased your Zenyatta play that much? no troll here just curious on the quantification of watching video+couple matches at most=greatly improved Zenyatta play within last 40mins
@TherealKabong
@TherealKabong 8 жыл бұрын
Think he meant just watching someone good play (and explain) cut out a lot of his gaps or leaks in play. You can know you were doing it wrong just by watching someone do it right.
@Chris.Cubias
@Chris.Cubias 8 жыл бұрын
Cyber buddha seems cool
@leocossham
@leocossham 8 жыл бұрын
4:01 #HarambeSavesLives absolute gold haha
@treyrossetti2126
@treyrossetti2126 8 жыл бұрын
As someone who got forced to perma support by their team of friends and getting to know Zen very well; it's great to hear reinforcement for all the things I think make him my favorite character.
@realstorm3681
@realstorm3681 8 жыл бұрын
Very good guide, I guess I should value the ultimate a little bit more. I happen to pop it too early or too late when every one else already died. What I find very important, is that Zen's body can block things. If there are shoots coming in that could surpass the heal, you can try and block them. Widow is an example or high noon or D.Va Ult.
@MarshmalowDragon
@MarshmalowDragon 8 жыл бұрын
I asked and got a zen kick kill on stream but you didn't show it in the video :( Anyway nice video
@YourOverwatch
@YourOverwatch 8 жыл бұрын
I wasn't recording on that stream, I'll try and incorporate THE BOOT into my gameplay for the future :) - E
@CapnArrich
@CapnArrich 8 жыл бұрын
It feels so good to deliver a boot to the head of a Genji or Roadhog. So, so good.
@julienfriedrich9617
@julienfriedrich9617 8 жыл бұрын
So it's recommended to have Ana or Lucio too when playing Zen, right ?
@fiveyenyato6001
@fiveyenyato6001 8 жыл бұрын
Or Mercy, but yea.
@YourOverwatch
@YourOverwatch 8 жыл бұрын
Ana can work but she's another off healer, the most common is Zen/Lucio on offence and Zen/Mercy of defence. That's by no means a hard rule. A Zen-less setup is quite viable - E
@G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s
@G.r.e.g.g.l.e.s 8 жыл бұрын
108 Heals per second is pretty solid healing to me. She just has trouble with sustain.
@kilionduke9010
@kilionduke9010 7 жыл бұрын
huckmart 99 Zen and Ana are much harder than mercy lol ana especially
@SethKolbePrefect
@SethKolbePrefect 7 жыл бұрын
Zen combos well with any support, except sym, if combo'd with lucio you're very defensive since lucios ult counters burst and yours counters suistained damage, if combo'd with mercy you are able to dive really well, if combo'd with ana it can be powerful but just watch your positioning since both of you are immobile and if you die your team will suffer, overall I think mercy zen is the best but if they have a zarya run lucio zen
@randye2710
@randye2710 8 жыл бұрын
That winston ult smash on that rein was clutch af
@trolopoulos
@trolopoulos 8 жыл бұрын
That save at 4:01 was amazing :)
@starf1sh00_2
@starf1sh00_2 7 жыл бұрын
Im a Zen main, and this was extremely helpful. Thanks dude
@SeanOkita
@SeanOkita 8 жыл бұрын
damn eddy congrats on the channel success
@georgikaradzhov8899
@georgikaradzhov8899 7 жыл бұрын
Zenyatta is my favorite character and who I play . This helped a lot thanks!
@pauljang3587
@pauljang3587 8 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot about the nanogrenade. It ruins zen's ult almost completely.
@Gawillamon
@Gawillamon 7 жыл бұрын
As a Zen main (mostly) I pretty much already knew this stuff which makes me feel good about who I main! :D
@Xevitikus
@Xevitikus 8 жыл бұрын
Getting the Rapid Discord achievement + POTG as Zen felt so amazing.
@justinc470
@justinc470 8 жыл бұрын
Im thinking about getting gold for his orbs. I really like playing as zen.
@Praesidium-oq7ii
@Praesidium-oq7ii 8 жыл бұрын
don't do it get it for a character you play whose golden weapon will be noticed, zenyattas are to small and are already gold
@tobben27
@tobben27 8 жыл бұрын
i have 50+ hours on Zen, he's my favourite, but it wouldn't get his golden ballz. No matter the colour of skin (or gold wep), they always fire out as blue so it's not very visible.
@linkno1
@linkno1 8 жыл бұрын
But they're still gold around his neck, right? If you used, like, a black skin, wouldn't you notice then? Mostly black skin + golden balls is both a possible high status symbol with certain tribes *and* the only golden weapon in game I don't think would look tacky.
@tobben27
@tobben27 8 жыл бұрын
lol i actually got the balls and they look smooth af
@aphoriste5067
@aphoriste5067 8 жыл бұрын
Justin Childress I have his gold orbs, I suggest his white metal plating to offset the gold and make it more visible
@gleb5524
@gleb5524 8 жыл бұрын
Like the guide, zen is in my top 3 characters and actually was one of my go to in ranked (I was in late 60s all the time). I almost 100% agree with your opinion, but would like to add that actually one of the most important things for zen is to make his orbs work all the time. I do not agree that he is mainly damage dealer support, he is 50\50 in my books and I usually can even solo heal with him (especially on defence) with getting end game cards for 25% damage heal average. But anyways, nice work, loved it!
@pnvpkenvpn9666
@pnvpkenvpn9666 7 жыл бұрын
Tranquility can also be great for escaping out of a situation in you have low health, and need to regroup with your team very far away. While no the best use of it, it has actually saved more than one putting it into overtime.
@sb2kgaming669
@sb2kgaming669 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm new to this character didn't know how to use him! Thanks for the tips
@3lit3gn0m3
@3lit3gn0m3 8 жыл бұрын
1:10 It won't save someone who's being focus'd, that's for sure, but if that person can use their own kit to escape, you should absolutely make sure you get an orb on them so that said Reaper or whatnot will have some HP when he leaves Wraith Form. I know you're not saying to ignore low health people, of course...I've simply played Zen since 150 HP and am/was often the only healer; my best game was 20k healing done, so I can't help but feel his heal is underestimated when paired with teammates who know when to retreat. The rest of your commentary was actually quite insightful. I've always tried putting it on allies who are going in for a pick, but never had it as an actual rule for myself; perhaps I can be more conscious of it now.
@DragonbooruKai
@DragonbooruKai 7 жыл бұрын
As a new player to this game. only about two months in i find this character my absolute favorite and have logged the most time on him
@thebowedacious
@thebowedacious 8 жыл бұрын
Hey chump, loving the videos you make. Keep up the good work!
@Gryph30
@Gryph30 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a new Zen main since late season 3. Mainly was a tank player, using Rein, DVa, Zarya. Since I started using him on qp i realized how powerful he is for both DPS and healing. I think I'll be using him for quite sometime and I've been loving it. I call out my discord to my random solo queue team mates. Season 4 has been way more successful for me as I use Zen and my tanks. Best win streaks I've had are with Zen though. Discord is amazing!
@ANewKindOfGamer
@ANewKindOfGamer 8 жыл бұрын
1 thing I like to note with a harmony orb, is that it can make any self sustaining character almost unkillable, as long as they are able to disengage, or otherwise ignore damage, for example, on a roadhog, he can regen half his health at any time on top of constant healing from the orb, if he doesn't get rushed on by 3+ people, he can stick around for ages, and zarya can use her shield to block damage while also healing damage already taken, making her a much stronger tank. Its admittedly not as useful on a hero like rein most of the time.
@jonsparkman935
@jonsparkman935 8 жыл бұрын
Great guide. Too many people are frivolous with their discords, and you make a lot of really good points with prioritizing targets, especially 'assassins' or 'back-line harassers.'
@Esthadingens
@Esthadingens 7 жыл бұрын
One amongst many once referred to Zarya and Zenyatta as "Commanders", heroes who could amplify the value of other heroes and enabling them. Probably the reason why they turned out two of my strongest picks in Season 1 (Zarya not so much anymore).
@CashueaVesbeni
@CashueaVesbeni 8 жыл бұрын
Great guide! Kind of hoping you do one on Lucio too (my fav support character) if he's deserving of it. Regardless keep it up, im learning alot from these videos!
@SilentHotdog28
@SilentHotdog28 8 жыл бұрын
As a Zen main, thank you, I need to sit back a little more, I do try for kills a lot, but up on the front line when I shouldn't. I am good at healing with zen however and I know when to use ult so I'm ok in that regard, I just need to back away from front line a bit haha. Zen is ameizing because of his versatility though, he can step in to heal when mercy or lucio are dead, he can control the battle somewhat with his discord orb and can hold the control point in clutch moments using his ult until his team get there to back him up (which I've done on many occasions) not to mention save a team from certain slaughter when genji, mei or zarya ult.
@CatalystCloud
@CatalystCloud 8 жыл бұрын
May have been mentioned already, but zens charged attack can be fully charged even if the charge exceeds ammo, similar to zarya's secondary fire.
@AVelociraptor
@AVelociraptor 8 жыл бұрын
D.Va always gets designated as a middle line tank who supports Rein but really she is the swiss army knife of Overwatch. She can disrupt the enemies back line, as well as serve as a front line tank who outputs a lot of damage. She is also good at standing in the middle of your team to go where she is needed. She really needs more acknowledgement for what she really does.
@georgemaud8041
@georgemaud8041 7 жыл бұрын
a good tip that i use is that when you discord someone there is the negative sign and 2 arrows, if you aim exactly below the 2nd arrow you will get a headshot
@eoingordon8154
@eoingordon8154 8 жыл бұрын
thanks for making this.i found it really useful
@mannypacbeloud5786
@mannypacbeloud5786 6 жыл бұрын
I'm new to all these Overwatch videos but I almost exclusively use Zenyatta and I agree with everything. I keep a discord on whoever the biggest threat is and heal and help flankers when the defense is busy
@Godzmarine
@Godzmarine 8 жыл бұрын
Advanced guide to environmental kills for all of the characters in one video would be great.
@TraceurArok
@TraceurArok 8 жыл бұрын
I shit you not, that #Harambesaveslives moment caused me to laugh my chicken sandwich all over my keyboard. Thanks yo.
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