OVERWATCH IS IN TROUBLE (From Marvel Rivals)

[@numberoneflop]

If I can be honest, I don’t think any of these minor cosmetic improvements would make much of a difference. People are tired of Overwatch, they’re tired of Blizzard, and they’ve found their shiny new replacement. There will still be an Overwatch community, but the casual player is truly dead.

[@luisdavid7718]

@@numberoneflop bingo

[@incinaflaregameing8644]

Exactly i feel to much damage to the casual experience has been done at this point the games gonna need a new overhaul

[@2close2sun]

The biggest thing I think they need to do is to stop balancing the game based on stats and actually listen to the community.

[@radiocat666]

Not the pro players the fucked the game to begin with in ow

[@Ahsoka123]

Idk cause most of the community wants to nerf mercy and she is the worst support of the game or get rid of her Rez like hello her Rez makes her character unique

[@MichaelJones-rz5sw]

@2close2sun the community doesn't know what it anymore. Nitwits like Flats whine when Orisa gets a minor buff her her ult.

[@2close2sun]

@@Ahsoka123 at most rez would get nerfed, there wouldn’t be enough people wanting it gone for them to just get rid of rez.

[@2close2sun]

@@MichaelJones-rz5sw buff cycle, very valid thing to be scared of

[@kendrickvieraramos]

Ever since the pve dilemma overwatch had alienated its entire player base and fandom

[@MRPOPMUSIC2014]

Marvel rivals is making Blizzard thinking and reverting back to everything they've went against lol

[@Tatsumakionlyfans]

Ong bro 😂😂😂

[@kisaragiyamato]

Honestly overwatch has been less toxic in terms of players I’ve run into since Marvel Rivals came out and im so glad for that

[@mmakotal4388]

i got perma ban on there i hatw ow

[@unidentifiedmogwai1321]

Honestly I think the biggest thing is that rivals feels like it’s designed to be a fun game first rather than a super competitive shooter. Each hero is a lot of fun to play and learn, like even the supports. I no longer have to just heal bot the entire time and can actually fight without throwing the match? Tanks can feel strong and powerful without restricting it to only 1 slot? Each hero actually has mechanics with depth and teamups gives possibilities for fun team comps? While overwatch has its polish its gameplay just can’t compare to the really fun skill curve rivals has and when OW cant even get cosmetics right, it’s easy to see why it’s getting destroyed.

[@anubiscorrin7559]

I play both and Rivals is the competition OW needed. Aaron really needs to sit down with the team and start making a game again and not this BS they've been on. Now anything can happen after the Honeymoon phase is over for Rivals. But in the mean time it been a fun time. Something OW lost for a while now.

[@sinisterknows6178]

Even with the new 6v6 game mode Overwatch still cannot compete with Marvel Rivals and that's shocking because Marvel Rivals has been out for 3 weeks and it's already got more players than overwatch which been out for 9 years almost 10 years now

[@re2gie]

The queue times in Overwatch isn't helping either, I tried to play after playing Rivals for a good while because I enjoy OW. However, 5 minutes being the shortest wait time for the 3 roles took all the wind out of my sails to play.

[@incinaflaregameing8644]

Exactly overwatch would need to overhaul again an revert to the way it was even then itd still struggle from the massive damage theyve done to the casual experience. What appeals to me is in rivals theirs not really any bad charectors if your good at the game then youll not have problems usally idk much interms of the competitive side

[@grayghost9837]

Good, now they have to be better as a company and prioritize the right things. Or they’ll fail.

[@TheBlackWitness]

You the only person that thinks 3 characters a year is enough. I completely disagree, with the 2-3 years hiatus, we should have significantly more characters to play with at this point. Slow release the characters makes the game boring.

[@Kat.x3]

Who else uninstalled overwatch after playing marvel rivals?

[@Necrowound]

nah i have an iq over 10 so i play both

[@ononokigaming]

I had to cuz im low on storage 😭

[@Fixer48]

I left after season 9 changes to hitboxes and healthpools

[@MrHdog111]

I’m still going to play competitive for the points to get gold guns in Overwatch. But I already reached the minimum of gold to unlock the free moon knight skin, but there’s no reason for me to play competitive after that since there’s no gold guns or any other incentives to play rank in marvel rivals

[@B4RT3K-OG]

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[@BSLyles]

Im sorry but overwatch has dug their grave so bad that I don’t think their is anyway for them to come back. Their way to money hungry to actually care about their game, its story, and its characters

[@Claire_Ballard]

This is shockingly cringe. Is this what OW players sound like?

[@EryxManaHungry]

I’ll be real, I think it’s too little too late for blizzard. The game will never die but it’s clear people are jumping ship.

[@haileytjarks1017]

I’m sorry but why is it that all of the influencers or gamers playing Marvel Rivals CANNOT pronounce Hela’s name? It’s HELL-UH guys, come on ❤ Love your content Bro, been watching for years

[@TheCuboneSwordsman]

This is the same guy who for the entire video says kuh-ree-ko and not kiriko

[@kaivos]

As someone playing marvel rivals the games fun but at the same time after a few weeks it just gets sorta boring now hopefully with every season they release like 3+ characters. The community of marvel rivals is clearly mostly over watch people and that’s not much of a good thing either because it’s so corny how they call themselves “Rank 0” or “Rank 1” player for said hero when there’s literally other players that are better than them with that said hero. They really exposing their own Ego’s. Uh teammates in comp are just really dumb it’s worse than overwatche’s. Speaking of comp the rewards hopefully do get good in the future like gold and blue coins.

[@LoneJatari]

No most ppl are marvel lovers

[@IzukuTheStoryMaker]

I quit overwatch when season 6 began, and a lot of the stuff I’m seeing for overwatch is honestly shocking and honestly kinda dumb, especially with mythic skin extra pallets and all. Glad I left the game when I did.

[@AlexTheHorrid]

6v6 is peak in OW2

[@Ziluette]

Preach

[@MichaelJones-rz5sw]

no, it isn't Zach. as much as i like Rivals, nothing ground breaking about it. It's a 3rd person Overwatch with the Marvel IP slapped on it. Saying Overwatch is in trouble is like saying Pokémon is in trouble because of Palworld. And while OW needs to fix some things, it isn't because whatever Rivals is doing.

[@lilywong9672]

20,000,000 million active players say otherwise lmao. Overwatch fans are coping.

[@MichaelJones-rz5sw]

@lilywong9672 compared to 100,000,000 Overwatch players. You're the one coping numbnuts.

[@Trident_Gaming03]

An innate advantage Rivals has to Overwatch is that you can see your entire character basically all the time That means every skin you get is naturally more worth the effort and/or price

[@abdulkaderalabasie5821]

Beside the fact that you see the skin when you buy it, you don't actually get banned left and right, and the rank system there is incredible, also really glad overwatch is dying

[@AXL.]

Blizzard better step it up or move aside...

[@xaviergoodwin4806]

Marvel rivals hasnt been out a month yet and hasnt really updated any balance changes for the heroes so i wouldnt say its out of the honeymoon phase. Other battle passes will be longer and therefore more expensive which they said before

[@j_m12341]

Im happy overwatch is having trouble! They need to learn greed isnt a kind way to treat their players.

[@ash30004]

Not interested in Marvel

[@hamsterhamster6492]

just a few things worth noting: SR gain/loss used to be performance based in ow1 but they soon realised some players just locked mercy to heal bot and pad their stats so that their SR became massively inflated The cinematics department was unfortunately gutted when pve was canned so getting more high quality 3D cinematics is a dubious prospect at best

[@Aphrodite-Asui]

Personally, ive never watched marvel, so marvel rivals had the same chance as overwatch, but i found that the third person POV sucks and theres too many characters for the start of a game. Im forever staying with overwatch

[@simonshura9144]

Rivals is overrated 😂 I'm just doing dailys play only max 10 minutes while in overwatch i grind comp points for several hours lol

[@DxXNA]

- Cheaper battlepass seems like a better idea and able to complete it whenever would make people more likely to buy it even when they cannot fully play a season. - Hide damage/healing #'s on UI until end game is solid as well. I haven't ever felt like checking the scoreboard other then to see if i have high elims or how many deaths my team has. - MVP seems like a solid system and tbh it seems like the player you'd think was the mvp/svp was actually the one. Idk how they decide it yet. It does feel easier for a support to get it though. - Ability to spectate comp with a 1 minute delay is amazing and would be awesome to watch your friends in their comp matches when they're not actively streaming and not everyone uses discord or the many live streaming options. You might also have friends you're not close with as well. - The slight modification to SR Gained/Loss based on performance seems solid as well. Obviously we know the leaderboards don't say much but there is definitely small things they could grab from a match to say you contributed something or you caused something.

[@someGuy-kl7cb]

overwatch is coming close to fixing itself, it just needs one BIG step, to at least give the community hope things will get better, but theres still that ONE big push they need to make. 5v5 just...has to GO. i was one of the ones giving 5v5 the most chances, thinking it genuinely had some merit, so the fact IM saying it needs to go basically means unless you were a DIE HARD 5v5 supporter, most people just want 6v6 back. i get why they want to alternate between the two, but that just WONT WORK unless they completely streamlined the heros kits. roadhog would need to be reworked back to OG in 5v5, zarya would need both bubbles in 6v6, you CANT make the SAME HERO in two different versions of the game so dramatically different based on which mode your playing, that will alienate everyone moreso then they already do. they need to lower the amount of game modes, get rid of role queue for role lock so queue times increase since those have become BIG problems now, and remove open queue so theres less diversity and thus, more games on the actual game mode. also the new mode(flashpoint i think its called? its 5cp) needs to be fixed. its TOO FAST and too easy to snowball, i think with each cap both teams should be forced into spawn, and begin different "rounds" to cap each point, the closer to their side the cap gets, the faster the team can go to reach that point giving them defenders advantage. basically make it 2cp BUT you only cap 1 point per round. winner is basically first to cap 5 points, or the first to cap the enemys final point.

[@nocontextskits3348]

Personally I think this is good, I enjoy rivals, I enjoyed ow2 sometimes, but what I think rivals needs is what ow1 had The looking for group so you can have heals, have tanks, and people can play open queue if they want

[@Ahsoka123]

They have discord for that but yeah they need to add it in game

[@violetvampy]

also why are u only mentioning mercy and kiri since rein gets everything aswell

[@Legendary3Dgamer]

Why are you not bothering to make a video about the Jade weapons not working because of the bug in overwatch

[@deyeti]

The worst thing that OW can do besides nothing is to try to match Marvel Rivals. At this point, they need to try and not just do better than they have been but do better than Rivals. One of the big problems OW has right now is that Marvel Rivals just does pretty much everything OW needs to do. They have the evergreen battle pass, cheaper (and arguably higher quality cosmetics), a bunch of characters at launch and seemingly adding more every season, and they even have a weekly comic book to expand the lore of the game. I think OW has a few levers they can pull to help them. 1) Evergreen battle passes like Rivals has but also sell old BPs. Let people who missed out on previous seasons pick up old ones so they can unlock those cosmetics too. 2) Lore related seasons. S0 in Rivals is the establishing season but they are already building S1 to be about Doom and we will almost certainly have the story event around that. OW needs to lean into the lore and characters that sold people on the original game and actually start telling a story. Stop with these random fantasy or mythology themed seasons and have each season progress the story. 3) More cinematics. Along with the previous point, every season should have a full blown short lore cinematic that sets up the season and pushes the story forward. 4) Make the shop cosmetics permanent. In the same way that they should move away from FOMO for the BP, they should also make it so that all shop cosmetics are always available (save maybe some licensed stuff that they can't for legal reasons or whatever). 5) Overhaul the currency system in the game. The way that they split the coins and the credits and now the mythic credits or whatever; do away with that. Rivals has a very simple currency system and OW should too. You get one premium currency that you can convert into the normal currency which can be used to buy any cosmetic in the game and the only thing that you need the premium currency for is buying the BP. Overall, just really hope that Rivals being around and such a strong force really puts the pressure on Blizzard and OW to be better. Rivals really might be the best thing that's happened to OW players if the Blizzard/Microsoft leadership actually listens.

[@spence6195]

Blizzard's greed, complacency and broken promises killed Overwatch. I'm glad Marvel Rivals is actually good, so idc if Overwatch dies

[@glurak]

Marvel rivals was more of a successor to ow than ow2 ever was.

[@Monsterpoxa]

Honestly I don’t like the fact that you can finish the battle place later. It was a big disappointment when they introduce the new currency for the mythic skins. These skins should be there for these players who took effort and time to grind for these rewards in a certain period of time.

[@Drdollarsign]

To be clear there’s no official announcements of characters coming in season 1. All of those are leaks. And it’s unlikely they’re coming in season 1. The theory is Ultron and some/all of the Fantastic Four are coming in Season 1 and that’s it for now

[@FOF275]

Overwatch 2 would need a full year to catch up to the current version of Rivals and by that point, Rivals would have evolved even further. They're severely outmatched and Rivals also has a strong IP to work with

[@realpurpleguyfour8563]

Something else with the rivals pass is that future seasons will have more rewards (with a higher price of course) this first seasons pass was cut in half to make up for the shorter season run time.

[@red_revenant770]

I'm so unsatisfied with Overwatch so I was playing Paladins and when Marvel Rivals came I stopped those games

[@DNYLNY]

My concern is splitting the playerbase too much. If I was King Blizzard I’d have two modes. 5v5 role and 6v6 open. It would please both Ow1 & OW2 fans. But I don’t wanna see a 5v5 role, 5v5 open, 6v6 role, 6v6 open. I think that will kill the game.

[@CarveronGamer]

My only disagreement with this video is the costs in MR. Some skin bundles are 20$ to 24$, and you can't buy the skin by itself. You can only buy the bundle. At least in OW, i can buy the skin alone for 19$(still a little overprice imo).

[@beehoney753]

Honestly, I’d love for OW to RIP. It will never be what it was envisioned to be because I doubt anyone who started this game is still working on it.

[@yaboifriskygon]

I feel like overwatch will never bring 6v6 back fully. If they do it’ll just be overwatch 1 again, nothing would have changed other than new characters etc.

[@R7RMCF]

If 6 v 6 comes back what was the point of ow2

[@moisalmaraz]

Halo: Infinite is one of if not the first to make Battlepasses stay even after season is over. Tho, Halo infinite still needs some work, the BP being long lasting and can be purchased at anytime even after the season ended is actually so good.

[@ruixinyou7432]

The biggest mistake they make is they didn't give discount for coin(+50%) in holiday season, i'm very unhappy because I decide not buy avatar bundle

[@Kakkisable]

I only play support so if they go back to 6v6 I will not be staying. In 5v5 you actually get to do something other then healing. Also it already is annoying to do "all role - challenges" and nearly always have to play tank. If it's 6v6 it's guaranteed tank every time.

[@donovan_salgado]

I always say the prices of skins don't matter As long as they give the players to atleast earn a way to get one of the legendary skins per season That means earn 1900 coin per season Now that might mean no longer being able to purchase the bp with coins and have to buy it steight up hut I rather be able to pick 1 good skin per season Instead of waiting 3 to 4 seasons of grinding to buy 1 skin

[@CROSSFADE69]

A big thing they could do to get more content in the game and earn some good will back from the community is to add a map maker.

[@hamidrezamohammadi4969]

after playing Marvel Rivals, I Like Overwatch more. and many thing you said is not completely true, Marvel Rivals season 0 battle pass does not worth of buying and the skins are not cheaper. 6v6 is not that good, actually I think if the people that wanted 6v6, play the test this season they will change their minds.

[@nikkopotamus28]

I’d like to lose maybe half the sr I normally would after a loss when your team has a leaver. It’s so frustrating fighting a 4v5 to lose the same sr if they wouldn’t have left and then more people leave so whether you stay or leave it’s -22%. Maybe it should be only 11% ?

[@L1ntL1ck3r]

Could be wrong here but…wasn’t the SR system for ranked performance based in original OW? Almost positive that it was..

[@gorilla7670]

PLEASE APPLY TO THE OVERWATCH TEAM IMMEDIATELY ISTG

[@violetvampy]

ppl really forget that marvel rivals is from netease and they will implement a gacha system there soon too like in all of their games since its chinese and gacha maniacs

[@bloodingly]

I LOVE GAMBLING

[@liquidsnake23]

Not sure if they would, but data miners have found a loot box model and system, unsure if it’s an old idea still left in there or something coming.

[@lilywong9672]

Yes but Marvel Games produced the game and they have final say and what to implement.

[@violetvampy]

@@lilywong9672 so u really think that marvel will decline earning more money from potential whales? that’s naive

[@JuloPawlo]

2:05 fortnite in the half of august changed their passes's cosmetics to return in 18 months

[@c.comics5999]

I've comeback from 2026. What's overwatch???

[@killerxfang6050]

marvel rivals never said that they were adding 8 new hero’s in season 0 you might’ve misheard what they stated😅 typically only 2 characters are released at a time

[@slvrxqt8427]

good. more legendary skins to bribe us to come back

[@wesleytucher6332]

I am not a marvel fan Idk it’s just not for me I’m sticking with overwatch

[@RoanDB]

Saying kiri and mercy and not rein and to push it sigma is crazy

[@ravtex]

How to get easy views with ow with just a title: mention marvel rivals destroying overwatch LoL

[@lilywong9672]

Cope. It is destroying OW2 lmao.

[@incinaflaregameing8644]

I dont think marvel rivals has a lack of tanks an support as alot of charectors cover both would i like to see more in those specific roles definetly but with 33 charectors i really dont ever feel like im on a team thats lacking do to like i said alot of them not being solely one role

[@timeriksson6020]

Yo i feel like they should ad a melee swordfighting woman if they want me back. I only play the melee charakters in rivals and its so much fun, i want that in overwatch

[@Ahsoka123]

I think that what also doesn’t make overwatch fun is the player base so toxic and sorry to say mostly those flop dps players that want to be toxic like bro ur making the game un fun I’ve ran into a few toxic supporters and tanks here and there but those dps players my god there ego is to high like sit down flop

[@LunaOcean-h3d]

I think sojourn needs a uzi skin from muder drones because. Of the gun then N should be reaper because of his negativity an positively then I think v should be mercy because they are both proud and I feel like v wings would go with Mercy's

[@admagic6241]

Disney comparison nowadays is a yikes 9:00 10:00 did you forget the whole netflix thing?

[@Fixer48]

Cheaper and higher quality skins, no wokeness, fun gameplay, battlepasses that never expire this game is a W. Im also a marvel comics fan

[@Kat.x3]

@@Fixer48 marvel rivals also gives you a highlight intro, emote, spray and player icon alongside a skin for a same price. Plus is also in third person so you can actually see your skin

[@Morgana__96]

"No wokeness" Wow, not only outing yourself as a clown but also a fake Marvel fan. 😂 "Wokeness" isn't killing Overwatch. Blizzard's obsession with overpriced monetization instead of healthy balance and actually progressing the story/characters is. And there are many extremely popular queer and diverse characters throughout Marvel's entire lineup. You'd know that if you actually read any comics lol

[@lilywong9672]

"No wokeness" You really gonna say that when the X-Men was made as a metaphor for the civil rights movement?

[@nikolauriello4182]

I need a ps 5 to play it 😭😭😭😭 I want to uninstall it 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Lirodes]

How. The f. BROYOUWACK "forget"to mention S0 is only half duration of future BPs, AND chono tokens (BP currency) do expire at the end of each season.

[@comedial6829]

Shocking?

[@sageyuh1192]

9:40 2015😂

[@Voyeur-i6g]

Yea lets add jetpack cat, another support thatll prob be reliant on movement for their survivability so that sombra van torment them like they do sombra with auto aim cc... yea how about we just remove sombra, im sure youd get more people back than youd lose 😂

[@callumhumphrey6059]

6v6 sucks

[@akazasoyama_x]

they deserve it

[@TheVetoxican]

Kureecko.

[@YurikoCorvera]

Good

[@Tryondaddy]

Ima Luna main ima Luna main ima Luna main FIGHT ME

[@Ahsoka123]

I think that what also doesn’t make overwatch fun is the player base so toxic and sorry to say mostly those flop dps players that want to be toxic like bro ur making the game un fun I’ve ran into a few toxic supporters and tanks here and there but those dps players my god there ego is to high like sit down flop