Overwhelmed and Defeated: Mistake Buying This Boat? 😫⛵️

[@RichardPhillips10]

I lived on steel boats for over 20 years - and think you are making One. BIG. Mistake. All that effort to grind, rust kill and paint external rust is wasted effort - rust will break through within a year or two and you will *forever* be chasing rust as it slowly destroys the boat. Instead, remove every single external fitting and grit blast the *entire* external boat - priming with sprayed two part epoxy primer within hours of the blasting (so done in stages) and then built up using multiple coats of high build epoxy (glass flake if you can). This will mostly last decades and you can do other things on the boat other than chase rust. You are massively under estimating how pernicious rust is and massively over estimating the effectiveness of manual rust removal - which is just a temporary fix but simply does not work in the medium term, on big boats with lots of issues. I had a boat that is now over 100 years old and largely rust free because of proper treatment.

[@alexchala7035]

this 100%

[@voornaam3191]

Exactly. One can buy a steel yacht, when you KNOW the wharf that built it, has done a great job. Then a bad spot can be repaired. But when you got to fear for a bad primer? When you see so much rust as this yacht? You can not deny that problem! You KNOW it will go on rusting. If it were alumin(i)um, the oxyde layer would block the rusting. But here? Just wait and you'll see the sharks swimming on the outside of the hull. Why does this young man DO THAT to his family? I don't get it.

[@marie-pascaleleonetti1555]

Entièrement d’accord. C’est la réalité.

[@andersmartensson1851]

Kan zink anoder hjälpa båten att överleva rosten ?

[@john-l3h3i]

I'll be building a boat too, probably steel. I've been welding since age 16. First thing you need to do is learn to weld. Learn to weld steel with Stick and MIG. Second thing you need to do is buy a quality ($3000-4000) LASER rust remover. Screw that media blasting stuff. I'm 62 and have been painting since I was 15. The materials available today are absolutely amazing. I've made the transition from air dry lacquer in the 70's into the beginnings of Lacquer base and 2K clears in the 80's to the full 2 part urethane's and poly's available today. Still I realize that fighting corrosion on a steel boat will be a full time job. I plan on building my boat with Bilge keels. I can run it up on a sand bar, let the tide go out, pressure wash it to get the heavy crud off and continue on with the cleaning with the LASER rust removal and then finish cleaning and painting.

[@highvibe4839]

I was only thinking the other day about this Chanel, and often thought about Mark and how he was fairing after the Wynns episodes, so nice to see the collaboration of all of you, the sailing community at its best, best wishes to all of you, especially Mark who has left the love of his life, the other woman! ❤

[@mikeh720]

Couldn't have worded it better. Glad to see Mark is still on this side of the waterline AND to have Drenched posting again (I've kinda missed Nerea and the rest of the hippy crew!)

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

We're so glad you're enjoying the collaboration. 😊

[@Pocketfarmer1]

If your anchor chain is studded , put stainless wire ties at your marks. It helps in the long run. I make my living working on dark burgundy painted tugboats out of New York. In the summer when we wash the house down the water steams off. We have enough electricity for a small city and powerful air conditioning. Painting your boat black in south east asia is going to make it an oven ,in my professional opinion.good luck with the adventure though!

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

Currently sitting in oven ☄️ I think you may be right 😂

[@nickd698]

Definetely true, no black boats in hot climates!

[@CoryHolliman]

Next project, use a "LASER Cleaning Machine" for all the rust. It will make an 12 hour job only be 15 minutes. I do this for a living for the last 12 years. Not only rust but you can remove any paint or bottom coat without causing any damage to substrate.

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

We keep hearing about this but not sure what to look for? Send a link mate!

[@Dave5843-d9m]

Machines big enough to clean a boat hull would be very expensive. I personally prefer aqua blasting as it’s dust free and with inhibitors in the water, there’s no flash rusting. Have you considered zinc metal spray? Lightly abrade and apply an epoxy primer.

[@henktulp4400]

I have recently watched a vid from ‘Yorkshire Classic Restourations’ on KZbin. Please watch them use this laser machine for cleaning up rusty parts of car bodies in their shop; the result is unbelievable!! To me as a livelong mechanic and old-car-owner I could never dream of removing rust like that!! Ubviously a car doesn’t equal a ship….. but still!! I am pretty sure the guy that runs this channel (BALLABING-BALLABOOM) will be kind enough to give some advise about this tool and what to expect and what not…. I do imagine however that this equipment has a pricetag that will want you to rent one for your project rather than buying one….

[@perstaffanlundgren]

Laser cleaning is for thin metal that cant be sand blasted or shop use on smaller/expensive /sensitive objects Sand blasting or wet sandblasting is or hydro blasting,not to confuse wit were sandblasting. Is the solution for ships ,there is robots that crawl in the hull via magnetic force and clean of paint probably expensive. I tink hydroblasting is used in does.

[@roryhennessey1983]

Its certainly will take longer than 15 minutes. @@ExpeditionDrenched

[@RiverWoods111]

Mark will be so happy to see all the work you put into her, and how you are giving her a new life. Great work team!

[@migueldelaguardia]

Mark is such a good guy.Hope you are doing well Mark and surfing the perfect wave.🤟

[@fisher-y6c]

😂

[@bwfvc7770]

There are industrial Lasers available that would make short work of the hull cleaning and rust. They are very impressive machines. Congrats on the boat purchase and all the best to y'all.

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

We are definitely considering all options to make the process easier.

[@fastinradfordable]

@@ExpeditionDrenchedmaybe next time don’t do it in tropical area so you’re not instantly saturating with high moisture

[@roadboat9216]

So good to see you all back at it. PAYING YOUR DUES FOR SURE! That is a LOT of work. But one of the beauties of steel is that it IS.workable. What a team!

[@carledinger3422]

I had a 46 foot steel staysail schooner. I can tell you rust never sleeps ‼️ Old steel boats rust on the inside and the outside ‼️🤨⚓⚓⚓✅

[@roadboat9216]

@@carledinger3422 Quite true. And Steel isn’t practical until you reach at least 45-50’ feet and preferable longer.

[@MIDTOWNE1]

Yes I remember Mark from the Wynns channel and his story. I'm sad to hear that he has to sell his boat but glad to hear/see that he's still in the land of the living. It's good that the boat will have another chapter and hopefully we can follow yours and hear about Mark's.

[@jodymooney255]

OMGOSH I’m so glad to see this video! Welcome back guys!

[@gyzmopower7599]

The adventure spirit lives on. So happy to see your videos again. The positive energy from the crew doing what looks like hard labour is inspiring. Looking forward to more amazing dive footage and exploration when you get her back on the water and cruise with her sister ship.

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

Thank you! She’s wet again!

[@isuckatguitar6252]

Learned to sail around Langkawi & up into Thailand. Beautiful area, I nearly bought myself a fixer upper in a Langkawi Marina too. One day I'll get out there on the sea again.

[@Patriot1227]

Great seeing you all again, I saw Sylfia’s transformation now millennium, a great job you are doing, Thanks for sharing! Puget sound sailor.

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

We are glad you are enjoying the journey! ⛵️

[@santossomolinosbarbero8577]

Excellent work, congratulations to both of you, it's beautiful, after so many hours of effort it was worth it. Thank you for sharing with us. Greetings from Spain.

[@brika2044]

Woo hoo you guys are back awesome, watching drenched during COVID was a highlight for me , and opened a world of sailing and diving and having fun

[@michelebushnik2874]

Gosh what a surprise! Where have you all been!! Missed this channel so much! What a pretty boat you are restoring! It's going to be gorgeous! Nice to see so many familiar faces! Welcome back!❤🎉yay❤🎉🎉🎉

[@MrAllstar]

Man I hate clickbait titles. 🤬

[@harrylen1688]

Im speechless for the work you have been done it is Immense!! Amazing restoration.

[@teddybearisms2505]

I don't know how you pay for it, but its nice to see somebody saving an old boat of this size. Not a lot of people, even with boats, have the means to do that.

[@Jcozz]

What a treat to find this posted today, yey team looking good!

[@lentongrovetrust5201]

Great to see you back two weeks in a row. Hopefully soon we will get to enjoy your under water highlights again.

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

Thank you, it will happen soon!

[@MerwinARTist]

How did I miss the last video .. glad to see this one .. now for the other! All the best for the crew .. lots of familiar faces .. and love for an old boat.

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

We appreciate you coming back and joining us again!

[@kathyline11]

Great teamwork, what a complete transformation, congratulations! can't for the next episode!

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

It’s a good one! The story of Sylfia ⛵️

[@shannonlowe2412]

Your hard work is paying off, she's starting to look beautiful! ⛵⛵⛵

[@bertieb9510]

I can see that is a heap of work you have under your belt already. A team of ten sure helps. All the same - well done.

[@dandrakenholt5455]

Beautiful ship, beautiful crew, beautiful teamwork and beautiful motivation. Great vid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@merryfergie]

7:26 i love the yt sailing comminity for honoring Mark & giving new life to Millennium.

[@roxannehudson450]

you guys are all rockin it, cant wait for more vids.

[@onlinegames4019]

Yeiks, weeks between primer and paint!? Hope its a really good primer. Amazing project, well filmed and hats off for doing it!

[@jimmarshall5453]

I m really so glad to see you and the crew getting so much necessary work done. Only you could get them together Captain.

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

Teamwork makes the dream work. 💪

[@kristaready8812]

Wow, she's going to be extraordinary when you're done!! Fantastic job guys 🤗💞

[@Tomm9y]

Good to see Mark is able to move to SA, hope it is much better for him and that he is still getting the meds. It seems you just got Millennium before the decay became severe. Good to see a team blitz the work in a short time.

[@SailingYaba]

That was our dream boat for a long time! Stay strong, you've got this!!

[@nickspence6233]

Great to see you back and rejuvenating a legendary boat. Feel your pain on the rust issues as I have a 20m steel boat that I sail in the Philippines. Luckily all made of CORTEN Steel, so has stood up well

[@paull1954]

When I was a plumber in England we replace many many very old heating systems. In the attic galvanised cold water tanks where rather large and impossible to repair and difficult to take out... So what we used to do was use the inside of the tank and line it with fibre glass.... Not sure if that is an option for you for this water tank but something worked well.

[@allykhan8594]

Got 1 of those out before,, was huge in a london terrace house. Heavy!

[@Hiddensecret9]

As you dive into this new chapter, the emotional journey is bound to be a rollercoaster. There will be moments of triumph when things go right, and there will be challenges that may make you question your decision to take on such a monumental project. But that’s where the true adventure lies. By sharing both the victories and setbacks, you create a relatable narrative that can connect with others who might be considering similar journeys or those who just love adventure stories.

[@dudeleboski2692]

Capitán, you are so well spoken and humble. Nice to see. aloha

[@cliffkirk4958]

Looking really good. I can't imagine such an amazing project. Very nice 👍

[@richardboody6709]

So glad to see you all are back, you have been missed by many!!!

[@HILifestyle]

This was the type of boat refurb video I was looking for. Keep up the good work team.

[@sam-dm7ci]

Once u blast the boat it needs a oxide primer applied b4 it starts to rust. Other wise ull have problems down the track.

[@californiakayaker]

I'm sure you've found out by now but Ospho does stop the rust but you still need to seal it to completely stop the chemical reactions. Sealant paint is almost immediately applied. Good luck with this project. Michael from Humboldt Harbor, California

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

So hard to find in this corner of the world but we’ve found other brands. Good stuff! Good seeing you here brother -Nate

[@bgd73]

love the steelies. you know other boats look new all the time..because they don't have chance to get old. steel reels it all in , whenever you are ready. Stuff to look at, change and make even better.

[@gordonagent7037]

Hi guys, new subscriber, small suggestion when cutting into your hull, you should round the corners so that there is no where for cracks to emanate from as they will with 90 degree corners.

[@henktulp4400]

Agreed!! Patching a sheet that is exposed to physical stress should never include a sharp corner….

[@Deebz270]

Corners are points of fatigue

[@stevec-b6214]

@@Deebz270 good point

[@perstaffanlundgren]

I feel like some of the yt steel boat shannels do his glad amture thing, instead of ask pro metal workers how to do stuff.

[@maurolimaok]

Amazing project Amazing boat This will be great.

[@franksmith3602]

What your missing is this.... Called thin hull. A old boat looks cool. Steel is great. Say it started at x thick steel plates.. 50 years later, after decades of rust. Sand blasting, grinding, patching, forgetting to replace the , zink plates. You do not have the same hull. U have a thin hull. U lost x % of how strong the ship was. That's why, most get scrapped. Insurance firms, wouldn't insure them. But great job. On the work... With two million more dollars she going to look great. And after u sink $2.000.000 in her.... She will be worth $800.000.. great investment.

[@fisher-y6c]

but wait, dose it count he loves the sound of his voice?

[@margarita8442]

a rust bucket

[@fisher-y6c]

@@franksmith3602 the issue is with thus " la vagina; these plebs, delos have all, TOTALLY STARTED BELIEVIN THEIR SHIT DOSNT STINK 🥰😌😉

[@georgewalker03]

@@fisher-y6c I was thinking the same thing. Have met many weirdos like him through the years. They all remind me of cult leaders. Ponces of everyone, and gives nothing back ones he gets what he wants.

[@fisher-y6c]

@ yep, you know the type.....

[@nooneanybodyknows7912]

The dirty dozen! Making Millennium fresh and nearly new. Thanks for sharing.

[@RonaldHawes-sr3cr]

Great job. She’s going to be trustworthy and safe. Cheers from Fenders junction Colorado.

[@itcantbetruebutis7778]

Hope ur "rest" oration goes well always much more to repair or modify than the initial inspection reveals. love seeing old vessels or machinery for that matter be refurbished and repurposed and brought back to life for years to come..

[@Flysimware]

I have been watching Sailing Yaba for years and love watching these old boats get fixed up. Looking forward to watching your journey! ⛵No it's not a mistake buying this boat and this will be a lot less work than what the Sailing Yaba had to do to fix their Schooner.

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

We are excited to have you along for the journey! 😄

[@perthfalcon]

Good stuff mate. Been watching your stuff fair while now, met you on our mate Jessie's boat, movie night at freo yacht club. Did a fair bit of welding on his one. Keep it up mate, safe winds

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

Yes I remember! Great seeing you here brother ⛵️

[@dalewiseman6521]

So Very Glad you are back Hang in there !

[@darrenmarrable2530]

To get rid of the bug. See if you can get fuel doctor from Australia. It will kill any bugs and contamination. Clean the injectors and fuel lines and dissipate condensation.. It's an amazing product.

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

That is an amazing tip, thank you! 🙏

[@darrenmarrable2530]

@ExpeditionDrenched You're welcome. It's great for all fuel applications, especially Marine.. I use it regularly in my 80 series landcruiser. It keeps everything running smoothly.

[@fastinradfordable]

@@ExpeditionDrenchedif you’re not constantly adding additive for moisture you will kill any diesel engine on a boat.

[@jhgross1988]

Sewage just dumped out in the boat yard. Sure everyone there loves you guys.

[@cbrown9555]

Disgusting

[@DavidTangye]

Yeah that was absolutely disgusting, but these people thought it was funny!

[@zulkiflimcgiveranuar863]

Ya.bodoh and stupid guys.I will make report on u official . Cikala punya mat saleh.

[@craiglamprell1024]

it already smells of sewage everywhere in asia .

[@brettfrederickson8060]

Sh!t happens.

[@joeeigo9820]

Nice project, you got a real big job done nicely! Black Ketch reminds me at SV Karaka 😃

[@stephanmckenney306]

Glad You are Back 🇩🇴⛵

[@Gladtobeleaving]

nice vid; nice boat. Nice shout-out to the Wynns, who have their own problems with their new boat these days.

[@OceanSoldiersgreghills]

Great to see she is getting a new lease on life. You had on board my old mainsail that we gave the boat in Fiji. It was from my Catana 521 called O2. I now have an 18 meter steel ketch called Quantum Leap and I did a massive refit on her in Townsville. Still have some work to do. How was the yard?

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

Hey Greg! we heard that about the sail! I'm sure Mark got great use out of her.

[@arnehaieschild343]

So awesome that you're saving this epic girl

[@zzzxxzzz3248]

Merry Christmas 😊

[@Weapon661976]

❤ Don’t miss refits to steel boats but you certainly get the reward at the end. Great work Lads n Ladies

[@newfiescreech7328]

I love watching a good refit on a fiberglass boat because I plan to own one. I appreciate how you've presented months of work quickly and concisely. The mental and physical stress of this large a refit breaks many captains...my hat's off to you and your crew!

[@GrantArdern]

Wow! My boat is a bit more than half the length but a quarter the weight! That’s a lot of boat to maintain! Nice and thorough job though guys!

[@Onyourbiketoo]

you are crazy painting a steel boat black ... unless you're heading for a cold country ... in Langkawi you will heat up like an oven.

[@DavidTangye]

Yes the heat inside a black steel vessel will be absolutely unbearable.

[@BrockAry]

Hey guys, new subscriber here, I used to sail a 43-foot cutter rig. It got knocked down with the stick in the water twice in the Marquesas in a 138 mile an hour hurricane. Sailed it back to San Diego and did a complete makeover. I like what you are doing on your boat. It will be a really nice boat when you are done. If I were to ever get another boat, it would be a multihull boat. I like what I see. Gone with the Wynns have.it is very nice. I do prefer a trimaran, mainly because I have had 4 back surgeries and just don't like standing sideways. The chances of me ever getting on a boat again is pretty slim. The cost alone would be too much for my retirement income. But if one of my ideas ever works, then yes I would consider getting another boat. But it better be a lot of money because I want lots of comfort. Lol ❤

[@Paul-w9r1r]

I'm a v.recent "drop by" but becoming very interested in this boat project. Trying not to be intrusive, but how is it all financed? The crew labour, assuming gratis, excellent.....but all the rest , just $ after $ continuously. All the best in getting it all sorted though!. Had concerns regarding the black paint as per others. from my h/school physics, "black body absorption." Will you be painting over in a different colour?

[@hanssolo4ever]

Good job, I am glad you are able to save the boat.

[@mattdouglas5570]

Dude you are covered in scores ouch! Great team work it's so so good to see you back!

[@diverd2162]

We can measure, we can test it, We can halt it or arrest it. We can gather it and weigh it, We can coat it, we can spray it. We examine and dissect it, We cathodically protect it We can pick it up and drop it. But heaven knows we'll never stop it! So here's to rust, no doubt about it, Most of us would starve without it. Quoted poem

[@billtaylor1261]

Nice to have you back

[@rolandtb3]

Great intro to Millennium, her crew, boat yard ever changing scope of work. What a team! A challenging rebirth retrofit.

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

Yeah she’s a beauty!

[@SamuelKTennis]

Welcome back! I have missed you all.

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

Thanks! It's good to be back

[@maminals2137]

U geaux! Welcome back!!!!

[@Monticello-jq4lz]

I am doing a similar work , on an Italian iron boat build 1982 in Italy. The only difference that I do not have so many people helping me. I am cutting ,welding now for eleven months and there's about 9 m2 still to close and weld in the hull. Not talking about the interior whome has been destroyed to be able to arrive at all the rust and tanks ( One big bag full of shit dried for about 13 years) . All the rust was over stucco and repainted so the boat was beautiful and over more sold with a scan where the hull had between 5,6 and 5,9 mm overall....so a big surprise when I put water into the tanks and the boat was full of blackwater....a nightmare....

[@MsBebe2768]

So happy to see the legend Mark doing well! ❤

[@breakbollocks9164]

Mark, Please investigate I-ver-mec-tin, Me-ben-daz-ole, and Fen-ben-daz-ole and shed your illness fast. Season's Greetings and best of luck and health to you!

[@bengtrobbert9264]

Add ATF to your diesel when filling it. It will quell the algae and absorb any moisture.

[@bengtrobbert9264]

It also will keep the injectors clean on your engine

[@stephenburnage7687]

In the tropics it's not just an option but an absolute necessity. Algae grows real fast in warm, humid environments. And you can't treat it once it's started growing - you have to catch it when the fuel is fresh.

[@mitch3137]

Aitor! You got the best name in the world!

[@leshogg217]

Looking bloody awesome guys.

[@johnmurphy6366]

You know how everything works,and she is looking great.

[@johnelliott8971]

Awesome edit Nerea!

[@ronkirk5099]

Steel boats can be tricky. I cruised a steel Chatham 33' pilothouse cutter for 7 years and knew it was well built with inorganic zinc primer on the inside with spray foam insulation above the waterline and an inorganic zinc primer under the polyurethane top coat outside and several coats of barrier coat under the anti-fouling below the waterline with enough sacrificial zincs to protect it as well. You really can't beat the strength of steel especially when cruising in the high latitudes like I did.

[@yuccaken]

Where do the money trees grow? Money tree is tropical, native to Central and South America. It typically grows in marshy wetlands where there's plenty of moisture and high humidity. Indoors, you'll see the best results if you can mimic those natural growing conditions.

[@richardcamp8301]

good to see you back :)

[@saltydawg1793]

You can actually run a keel cooled generator of a metal boat while on the hard for quite a while without overheating. The hull will warm up some.

[@Baylessfishes]

Someone will always be painting! ❤❤❤❤

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

It’s true 😅

[@akLeanne]

I can't believe that yard let you sandblast in the yard like that, also allow you to dump your black water like you did. Guess they have no restrictions over there. That's Crazy

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

The yard did the blasting It’s a wet blast. Ahhh yeah the black water we didn’t show it wasn’t supposed to come out like that, hence me laughing. We sanitised and power sprayed allll day Good seeing you here -Nate

[@david78212]

Steel boats are a constant maintenance thrill a minute. You will regret painting that steel boat black. Your AC (if you even have one) will work overtime keeping that black boat cool. Diving boat? I’m assuming you plan on being in warmer places all the time? You’re going to find out just how much of a mistake it was to paint the boat black, that steel will hold the heat like crazy and the heat reflecting off the water will make it even worse. Good luck. I had one dark boat… only one.

[@dennispatrick4999]

Yes, boat work on an old boat = nightmare. You guys do work hard. The pay off will be worth it.

[@CaptainRon1913]

The nice thing about steel and aluminum is you can cut out a section and weld new a new section on. Or modifications much easier than fiberglass

[@brucerhodes8197]

So I'm wondering, since Aitor has rejoined the crew, are he and Nerea still together and will she also be rejoining the crew in the near future? The 2 of them both give off such good energy and really liven things up. Until I hear otherwise, I'll remain hopeful that Nerea will be back as part of the crew sooner than later.

[@Ugloke]

Aturo is a workforce, good for you that have him. %)

[@garyjohnstone6422]

Fibre Glass is maintenance free. I`ve had `em for 50 yrs, no osmosis. Double epoxy if you`re worried.

[@hiddebekaan2396]

Did a few steel hull refit - just be sure of the rust inside eating holes. 😊

[@craiglamprell1024]

you need lots of sacrificial anodes on that ketch to keep the rust dawn . and reaplace them befor they are 100 % perished do this at 50% 75% gon i think thay are made from zinc . look them up on line

[@ExpeditionDrenched]

Good call! 👍

[@maakamakana7007]

just come in from stripping down part of the motor in my 50yrs old tractor, and the rust is a problem too...

[@MrFroglips69]

Groovy episode.

[@thomasnelson8366]

Keep it up,you are doing amazing,my dream is to buy up to a 50 ft power boat and live on it and just travel all around the USA

[@theburnhams2925]

Rust never sleeps!

[@bend3rbot]

The "mungbean free" explaniation of the Oxcalic acid and rust reaction. When oxalic acid comes into contact with rust, a chemical reaction occurs that changes the rust into a water-soluble salt that can be easily rinsed away: Chemical equation: Fe2O3 + 3H2C2O4 = Fe2(C2O4)3 + 3H2O Explanation: The iron in the rust attaches to the oxidized carbon in the oxalic acid to create iron oxalate, while the hydrogen and oxygen combine to form water Oxalic acid is often used to remove rust stains because of its ability to form soluble complexes with iron(III) ions. When working with oxalic acid, it's important to take precautions to ensure safety: Wear gloves, goggles, and a mask Ensure there is enough fresh air in the area Clean the object to be treated so that only rust remains Dispose of oxalic acid safely, especially in large amounts