OW1 Grandmasters VS OW2 Grandmasters - WHO WINS?!

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Who wins? Overwatch 1 Grandmasters or Overwatch 2 Grandmasters? Let's find out!
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@rezq9109
@rezq9109 7 ай бұрын
ow1 team: target priority and having fun and giggles ow2 team: "what up team?" * silence *
@downey6666
@downey6666 7 ай бұрын
that shit was honed to perfection during goats and there was so much more scrimming in OW1 --that is like peak goats comms
@ZayxDraft
@ZayxDraft 6 ай бұрын
so true. seeing how everybody can be GM now when most of them clearly dont have the skills or the brain to play at that rank.
@zunexxx
@zunexxx 7 ай бұрын
Ow1 players seemed way more experienced and the comms were so different as well
@Chai_586
@Chai_586 7 ай бұрын
@@aGumballyeh wtf lol. It’s the same game
@RVGuy613
@RVGuy613 7 ай бұрын
That's because OW2 players can't say shit in chat without getting reported.
@mrwatermelo50
@mrwatermelo50 7 ай бұрын
You can hear that we had fun in ow1 :( better times
@Cubeee
@Cubeee 7 ай бұрын
Ow1 gms are like 6 or 7 year vets. Ow2 gms are only about a year in
@pharaoh1361
@pharaoh1361 7 ай бұрын
broooo those ow2 players played ow1! all it is is rank inflation, they're not real gm's in ow1 terms
@presentlee9403
@presentlee9403 7 ай бұрын
Top players in OW1 kept saying that communication is key. This video does show how important it is
@jake9854
@jake9854 7 ай бұрын
but girls think communication is not important tho
@tbtnr9851
@tbtnr9851 7 ай бұрын
@@jake9854to be fair when you only play mercy there isn’t much need for comms
@YOwaz
@YOwaz 7 ай бұрын
@@tbtnr9851 there are so many comms you could do with mercy, if they cant think of any then they're just a horrible player
@tbtnr9851
@tbtnr9851 7 ай бұрын
@@YOwaz ur right actually callouts are needed by everyone but doesn’t make them a horrible play i got to a high rank without talking lol
@Kermsy
@Kermsy 7 ай бұрын
When I mention in chat that I used to be in the top 500, people assume I'm kidding. They look up my account and ignore me since I'm merely trying to improve the OW community, but I've been a pro zen/lucio player and have been hardstuck diamond the entire time.
@TimeOW
@TimeOW 7 ай бұрын
Hey I was one of the OW1 GMs and I just wanted to say it was a blast as always Jay, genuinely a ton of fun to see the difference and have fun with the comms
@randomduck8841
@randomduck8841 7 ай бұрын
bro your tracer is insane. I wish to be as good as you someday
@deery05
@deery05 7 ай бұрын
ur a goated tracer
@stitchperlo9639
@stitchperlo9639 7 ай бұрын
I miss playing with my zarya main friend coms even if people used to insult they were at least talking I reached gm only the last year of ow1 sadly so never really had the real ow1 experience
@TimeOW
@TimeOW 7 ай бұрын
​@@randomduck8841 Ty bro thats wholesome af, I spent a lot of time getting their. I wont do any shameless plugs or any of that but if u keep at it and work on all aspects of ur game u can get there
@TimeOW
@TimeOW 7 ай бұрын
Ty bro I appreciate it a lot :) @@deery05
@MAD02323
@MAD02323 7 ай бұрын
The difference in voice coms is crazy
@DiaNuclear
@DiaNuclear 7 ай бұрын
Yeah 100% 😂😂
@connor.chan.jazzman
@connor.chan.jazzman 7 ай бұрын
It's all the more proof just how much more teamwork and coordination there was in OW1. Everyone is communicating constantly and coming together as one unit, when the OW2 team, although communicating with each other, almost seemed like 5 independent players relaying information about their own observations.
@clxcparallax3791
@clxcparallax3791 7 ай бұрын
Thats cos there was actual voice comms back then
@JohnnyBeGoodz
@JohnnyBeGoodz 7 ай бұрын
This is how all competitive games should be… jumping into OW2 and not playing OW1, I literally cannot believe the lack of comms in the ranked range. I’ve played CS since 2015 and Val since its beta inception; never have I had an issue with comms in any of those games. Are people just socially inept now? And the whole “mute chat and people because toxic” just adds to the issue… it’s infuriating to deal with.
@LockeLamora15
@LockeLamora15 7 ай бұрын
Ignoring everything else, ow1 team much more fun to listen to
@Lgbianchi
@Lgbianchi 7 ай бұрын
The ow1 guys were just having their best time
@realbandito3516
@realbandito3516 7 ай бұрын
i miss the days wher i came home from school and gave 0 F's about homework and played OW 1 the whole day just to get lootboxes and sweat my ass of. those days were the best gaming days of my life .
@connor.chan.jazzman
@connor.chan.jazzman 7 ай бұрын
Me too. I remember when OW first came out and I chose Genji because of the cinematic. It was the most amazing and fun experience ive had in gaming
@Koriiii
@Koriiii 7 ай бұрын
Fr, I would duo with my friend and we would run lobbies with Rein + Zar and have the best time with everyone talking. Now I get on am forced to lock Mauga and shoot the enemy Mauga for 10 mins and hope I win with no reward or lootbox at the end :(
@jasonvrba4644
@jasonvrba4644 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@KoriiiiI’ll take the 3 week mauga meta over another year of goats any day 😂
@BeastMode-bw2ry
@BeastMode-bw2ry 7 ай бұрын
@jasonvrba4644 At least goats had more comms and teamwork than Mauga meta.
@jasonvrba4644
@jasonvrba4644 7 ай бұрын
@@BeastMode-bw2ry that’s ow1 in general. And half the comms during that time were people complaining about goats
@Cyber_p3nguin
@Cyber_p3nguin 7 ай бұрын
24:39 is a classic lucio player. Makes a big play on the enemy backline and then emotes in the open and dies
@kat8275
@kat8275 3 ай бұрын
i really miss the cards. it made you really appreciate the skill of the ppl on and off your team. plus it was always a flex when your team got all 4 slots lol
@frogsters_
@frogsters_ 7 ай бұрын
All it takes to increase OW2's popularity is to add an OW1 mode maybe in arcade whatever where it is only OW1 heroes with OW1 abilities and 6v6
@luciamurray1838
@luciamurray1838 7 ай бұрын
That’s a great idea, not sure how great it would work but if anyone’s gonna make it work the devs are!
@DJ-pb1vr
@DJ-pb1vr 7 ай бұрын
@@luciamurray1838nah it’s definitely the community. They just need to expand the workshop mode for more customization of hero’s and abilities.
@alexthebat-uy5be
@alexthebat-uy5be 7 ай бұрын
I’d rather not deal with ow1 brig, double shield, og torb turret, og sym turret. That shit would only be fun for a week
@SPARDA999
@SPARDA999 7 ай бұрын
Or bring back overwatch 1, when a new call duty release Activision dont close the servers of the old one
@badgeow8538
@badgeow8538 7 ай бұрын
No because I play for the competitive aspect I never play arcade it needs to be a core competitive mode.
@ronipalomaki4395
@ronipalomaki4395 7 ай бұрын
loved ow1, lootboxes, no push, no op healers, the cards at the end of the game, level boarders
@Liiyyaaahh
@Liiyyaaahh 7 ай бұрын
Omg the cards at the end used to remember playing your ass off hoping that you would be on one of the cards 😭😭
@user-ee5kl6oi7t
@user-ee5kl6oi7t 7 ай бұрын
maybe not no op healers
@drakon7197
@drakon7197 7 ай бұрын
Ehh push is fine
@eagerinspirit
@eagerinspirit 7 ай бұрын
no op healers is definitely you being off the nostalgia pill
@pulsar.
@pulsar. 7 ай бұрын
Yes no op healers, they were pretty op in ow1 now way worse, most forgiving role with the worst players results in overturned role​@@user-ee5kl6oi7t
@drewliveryboy
@drewliveryboy 7 ай бұрын
I met a group in Ranked OW1 back in like 2018 at midnight. 6 hours later we were the Big Dick Brigade and continued to grind rank for 6 months. The coms were peak OW
@louiepikmin3184
@louiepikmin3184 Ай бұрын
I miss ow1 so much. Tank duos, cards after games and time to talk after a match, and possibly the biggest reason, lootboxes and leveling up giving an actual reason to keep playing the game
@yall_might
@yall_might 7 ай бұрын
I prefer OW 1 and it’s not even close. I was half of a tank duo and it’ll never be the same without. I lost half of myself.
@torduc22
@torduc22 7 ай бұрын
By calling out a hero like Reinreinreinreinrein, I’m convinced the team will just target that hero and get picks - you can just call out any hero and the pick will happen 😭🤣
@mtnmanmike
@mtnmanmike 7 ай бұрын
Real title OW1 Grandmasters VS OW1 Masters (w/ Ow2 GM rank icon) - WHO WINS?!
@williebO4
@williebO4 7 ай бұрын
More like diamonds
@AnikethBandi
@AnikethBandi 7 ай бұрын
More like diamonds man. I was gold in ow1 and got to diamond decently fast have assing it. The metal ranks got easier the more new players came in. Support roles even more boosted compared to ow1.
@connor.chan.jazzman
@connor.chan.jazzman 7 ай бұрын
Man, i miss the old GM and other rank icons
@MK-mm7ui
@MK-mm7ui 7 ай бұрын
I actually wanted them to update the rank icons, but i really dont like how they turned out. The new ones look so dead, just like the rest of the UI
@xRichieeex
@xRichieeex 7 ай бұрын
They were so good and looked cool. I grinded rank every day just to have one. Now the dream is dead and the new icons are so wack
@pulsar.
@pulsar. 7 ай бұрын
I miss seeing and flexing my rank in game against 11 other people
@castamere3368
@castamere3368 7 ай бұрын
so essentially, this video was just absolutely destroying the egos of ow2 gm's. Which imo is a good thing
@sayonfoxx8862
@sayonfoxx8862 7 ай бұрын
As a Lucio main, seeing Lucio emote on point felt very real
@bowii9993
@bowii9993 7 ай бұрын
while watching the last game it honestly made me really miss 2 cp. I was well aware of the issues with it but like jay said I feel like it was worth a shot with some tweaks in the OW 2 setting it would be just fine especially when we have game modes like push and flashpoint taking its place I wish 2 CP was in comp bro
@rezq9109
@rezq9109 7 ай бұрын
it's in arcade almost every day now, I waited to Jay mention it, since ow2 players could have played it there I feel like they could do choke points tweaks and make some spawns further/closer and it would be fine to play
@Chr0n0s38
@Chr0n0s38 7 ай бұрын
@@rezq9109 In all fairness, the version in arcade is open queue. He meant seeing it in role queue (1 tank vs 2 tanks). It would play very differently.
@MotivatedMan
@MotivatedMan 7 ай бұрын
Rank inflation really showing its head here
@davidperezvazquez7856
@davidperezvazquez7856 7 ай бұрын
I’ve only played ow 2 and seeing old clips and videos on ow1 I can already tell I would’ve had much more fun in that game. Much more bare bones. More skill expression. No bs suzu and pay to win. Ye there were rly annoying metas like double shield and triple stun brig. But overall across over 30 seasons, the game looked much much better and healthier.
@dafilthycasual2628
@dafilthycasual2628 7 ай бұрын
God I miss OW1 comms, genuinely one of my fondest memories
@autismcenter201
@autismcenter201 7 ай бұрын
OverWatch 1 was honestly so much better for so many different reasons
@PGFXKiu
@PGFXKiu 7 ай бұрын
Do I prefer OW1 or OW2? Well I'll definitely say I end the night in a much more annoyed mood in OW2 than I ever did in OW1. I miss OW1 so much for all the reasons you mentioned, Jay. So much. 😭
@kyndow7149
@kyndow7149 7 ай бұрын
I quit during goats. When I heard Jay say "Goats lasted 11 months if it lasted 2 months or even a season it would have been fine" I actually fully agree and I hated that meta... I realize I hated it AFTER 6 MONTHS of just being stuck playing Zarya every game as a hitscan main.
@jeremynelson3899
@jeremynelson3899 2 ай бұрын
when the ow1 team shit on the ow2 coms, that was the best
@CStarkGolf
@CStarkGolf 7 ай бұрын
You should do OW1 vs OW2 again BUT this time you have all the abilities for the OW1 team reversed back to how they used to work JUST for the OW1 team and leave the OW2 team as is. Like orissa has the power charger and the shield and pull. Sym has all her stuff back. Torb the same. Roadhog the same etc
@monkeydchunk4920
@monkeydchunk4920 7 ай бұрын
The OW1 players would smoke them lmao
@CStarkGolf
@CStarkGolf 7 ай бұрын
@@knyt0 naw if people can somehow put random abilities on other heroes I’m sure it is
@Apocalypse754
@Apocalypse754 7 ай бұрын
So basically 6v5
@werdfairy4975
@werdfairy4975 7 ай бұрын
I mean playing ow1 was always a fkin good time, like grinding the lvl to open loot boxes, 2cp maps which were the most memorable and just the ranked system even if I was only gold at the time was way funnier
@Dobebavx0r
@Dobebavx0r 7 ай бұрын
6:35 Soj locks on Ana behind the tourist buss I think
@TheJonesiam
@TheJonesiam 7 ай бұрын
Good catch, slowed it down and checked multiple times, the crosshair just flicks instantly to the like with autohotkey. Skippy is bronze coached to top500 I believe so it's even more sus. 😁
@servantes3291
@servantes3291 7 ай бұрын
They saw that ana and shot where the ana was moving towards without thinking about the bus. I do it sometimes it's just a mistake, I see plenty of other people do it too.
@Dobebavx0r
@Dobebavx0r 7 ай бұрын
​The Ana never peaked the bus and they didn't stop shooting when they readjusted to the Ana
@gigimmit
@gigimmit 7 ай бұрын
all i can say is benefit of the doubt, might be lag, it happens to me whenever i lag i get those jumpy aim on replay mode
@masterpurplefist6976
@masterpurplefist6976 7 ай бұрын
True true, and spectator bugs are a thing, but kinda crisp insta lock tbf
@str8totehtop
@str8totehtop 7 ай бұрын
you asked during the vid whether we prefer ow1 or ow2. i go with ow1 :) i enjoyed the teamplay between tanks. 5v5 is just a lazy take on solving some balance issues and thats exactly how ow2 feels like atm.
@ridillr
@ridillr 7 ай бұрын
Woulda been hilarious if Jay had them play 6v6 on 2cp
@Talonflamez
@Talonflamez 4 ай бұрын
One thing i missed about ow1 is the community, people actually talked in comms, now everyone is mute, and the people who do talk are just shit talk. Overwatch is so much more fun when people actually talk.
@marc-alexandrevincent3777
@marc-alexandrevincent3777 7 ай бұрын
I feel like ow1 6v6 was actually a team game that why we had to use com when ow2 feels more like a free for all where everyone can do everything by themself
@maturememory
@maturememory 7 ай бұрын
Constantly thinkin' about Sigma's toes
@llllllllllllllllllllllIlIlll
@llllllllllllllllllllllIlIlll 7 ай бұрын
シグマの足はいい匂い
@Naoki_Inari
@Naoki_Inari 7 ай бұрын
I would love to see this for OW1 masters vs OW2 masters, same for diamonds, plats etc...
@Zencep
@Zencep 7 ай бұрын
Hmmm 🤔
@ggolden
@ggolden 7 ай бұрын
thing is most of the ow1 diamonds and masters are gm rn
@AnikethBandi
@AnikethBandi 7 ай бұрын
Would go pretty much the same ngl. From personal experience, I was gold tank, silver support, and silver to bronze dps in OW1. Im not diamond on tank, plat on dps, and masters on support. The average diamond or masters from back then is currently gm, and would smoke most players like me.
@Carikenja
@Carikenja 7 ай бұрын
I don't think healer passive on everyone is a good thing or a bad thing but I think Overwatch might attacking the wrong angle. I feel like the frustrating part of the game is that it's a team game with Jenga like balance. One player falls over your entire team fight could be lost. As a healer it feels frustrating to be forced to play a specific healer or rush to the aid of player only for them to fall over in 1 second. As a tank you either feel invincible or you pop like a balloon. As a DPS you can feel alone and like everything is on you to perform. All of this I think is because damage/healing is too high.
@biantoroy
@biantoroy 7 ай бұрын
Man I missed OW1 comps so much
@Cheseburgerham
@Cheseburgerham 7 ай бұрын
I really miss loot boxes, they were 500% more fun to win skins and to show off them
@faxmine
@faxmine 3 ай бұрын
Yeeaaahhh but the problem with loot boxes in general had always been "it incentivizes gambling." But like, between that, and Battle passes, I don't really know which one I want because battle passes can feel like a chore.
@TheWeiEnShorts
@TheWeiEnShorts 7 ай бұрын
I prefer old Overwatch 1 as it was way more fun maybe I am saying it as I played from my uncle's computer but i still prefer old mechanics like mccree's stuns and more. I love the on fire whenever you get a big super like genji zarya and ana ult combo for sixtuple kills and loot boxes. It was also probably more satisfying to get play of the game back then. Doomfist as offense character with uppercut and when bastion could be turret form forever with healing abilities. Torb super with stage 3 turret. Symettra with 6 turrets and everyone in your team played symettra to cheese. The old system with the broze frames and can be gotten to level 100 5 star gold would be so satisfying
@Chrygan
@Chrygan 7 ай бұрын
I was in a semi-league for fun back in OW1 and comms were exactly like that. Target priority and focus was a different experience, nowadays comms are dead and I do believe it's because there's 1 less person to shot-call
@penguingobrrbrr353
@penguingobrrbrr353 7 ай бұрын
OW1 are the ultimate giga chads while OW2 players are somewhat baby players IMO.
@ceris_o
@ceris_o 7 ай бұрын
Time is just popping off on king’s row😭
@TimeOW
@TimeOW 7 ай бұрын
haha ty bro
@upsetti6404
@upsetti6404 7 ай бұрын
Notice how pleasant the OW1 folks were while communicating? I miss those days.
@milkbredAPEX
@milkbredAPEX 7 ай бұрын
i love the ow1 teams' vibe
@nag.i
@nag.i 7 ай бұрын
this brings back so much fucking memories
@philpeters3689
@philpeters3689 3 ай бұрын
OW1 to OW2 GMs: "You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it. Molded by it"
@RawrMeowmix23
@RawrMeowmix23 2 ай бұрын
OW1 was such peak gameplay tbh. I miss it so much. The maps were amazing.
@lIlIlIIllII
@lIlIlIIllII 2 ай бұрын
Theres a reason why it won goty it was the best game in its prime😢
@potgx2
@potgx2 7 ай бұрын
Ow1 > felt like good times thanks for the vid jay3😂
@AnimeVampire234
@AnimeVampire234 7 ай бұрын
i think off tank should actually be a role obv not as tanky, kinda like brawlers in HoTs vs actual tanks. i do miss Ow1 tho and the maps they took away.
@marginis
@marginis 7 ай бұрын
It would be super interesting to see OW1 players with an OW1 setup versus an OW2 team with an OW2 setup. Maybe not 6v5, but let the OW1 team play with open queue hero selection. Find a way to let the OW1 players use OW1 balance heroes and don't let them use any OW2 heroes at all, too. Give Sym her old gun, Bastion his self heal, all the good stuff. Watching that would be insane.
@CarpathiaS
@CarpathiaS 7 ай бұрын
I miss the overwatch 1 ranking system, this stupid "win 5 of lose 15 games" to get a rank is nonsense. I liked it a lot more when you just lost or gained points after a game. The cards were cool at the end of a game. I kind of liked the 6v6 and think they could bring it back somehow, perhaps on certain maptypes. I dont like what they did to support roles, though they kept their word, as the queue time finally balanced out now that all the dps players are quitting. OW2 is better because they actually manage to update the game every now and again, the ingame shop(whatever you think of it) was a smart move because now keeping the servers up isnt a moneysink for them anymore.
@jasonrzqo9874
@jasonrzqo9874 7 ай бұрын
OW1 was just better in every single way. Even competitive is now a charity case
@jasonblessing2951
@jasonblessing2951 7 ай бұрын
No matter what happens via matchup, we can all agree that OW1 was probably 5x as fun.
@therebelfrogy9287
@therebelfrogy9287 7 ай бұрын
When all of OW1 og started moaning "Rein Rein Rein.....Speed Speed Speed Speed", all the memories come back and it warms my heart so much. Thank you Jay3 and OW1 GMs for reminding me why I love the game so much❤
@LordJazz
@LordJazz 7 ай бұрын
before the match even started I laughed at the "where's my off tank?" in the text chat.
@doops8165
@doops8165 7 ай бұрын
I’m curious to know what rank the gm ow2 players were in ow1 as well as if they have any scrim experience
@NoItsFluffy
@NoItsFluffy 7 ай бұрын
I agree. OW2 players might just be soloq warriors
@danielshalin3732
@danielshalin3732 2 ай бұрын
Amazing video especially the old lovely Volskaya. Do more videos with Anubis, Paris, Hanamura and Horizon pls with top players!
@justaguy1304
@justaguy1304 7 ай бұрын
You should do this again but: -ow1 team has another tank but they both have nerfed stats -ow1 team can only play ow1 characters
@LifewishCT
@LifewishCT 7 ай бұрын
I miss OW1 so much. 6v6 was just better.
@hizzyhizzles8731
@hizzyhizzles8731 7 ай бұрын
OW 1 is Nostalgic, original and had a much less toxic community and was more challenging and rewarding OW 2 is Free Guess it's a draw
@thearchitectofthehounds9815
@thearchitectofthehounds9815 7 ай бұрын
Less toxic? You're blind LOL. It was just as toxic as it is today
@hizzyhizzles8731
@hizzyhizzles8731 7 ай бұрын
@@thearchitectofthehounds9815 Sorry that was your experience and it has made you so jaded, but that's not my experience.
@invarkul7831
@invarkul7831 7 ай бұрын
@@thearchitectofthehounds9815 I much rather prefer toxic dps player who at least have some semblence of skill to back themselves up rather than toxic supports with overinflater ego (and elo)
@ToshiroKai0W
@ToshiroKai0W 7 ай бұрын
i miss top 500 sprays and like season sprays and icons and the coms so much
@dario_fnatic
@dario_fnatic 6 ай бұрын
Loot boxes had crazy value in comparison to now where the only option to get "cheap" skins is the Battle pass
@WuShoe
@WuShoe 7 ай бұрын
we need the actual “OW1 vs OW2” game to happen. gotta see what ow2 gamers who have never seen some of these maps can keep up
@lil_littledude
@lil_littledude 7 ай бұрын
For sure. I was listening to that explanation and thinking it's not really a OW1 vs OW2 concept but just, "we've been in GM for longer"
@rezq9109
@rezq9109 7 ай бұрын
that wouldn't be fair, since you have rusty players and players who played like every day last year and a half
@jasonvrba4644
@jasonvrba4644 7 ай бұрын
@@rezq9109and skippy vs time is fair ?
@hooni2212
@hooni2212 7 ай бұрын
​@@lil_littledude not necessarily, it's just rank inflation. With OW2 ranked system change many players who really don't deserve their rank (not saying in a insulting way) managed to get to high ranks regardless. A lot of OW2 GMs were either masters or diamonds in Overwatch 1, some were even plat. While the grind to get into GM in ow1 was rough, so that's why Ow1 GMs are actually pretty fucking good, they got there due to their own efforts and didnt get carried to their rank by a poor designed ranked system.
@Htiy
@Htiy 7 ай бұрын
@@hooni2212 yes because like 10,000 people were playing ow1 in s36, now the game has a much bigger playerbase who mostly had to learn the game from scratch The first few seasons of ow1 gm are not any better, but of course 6 years of experience and most non hardcore players dropping the game they figured it out
@Jbillymac
@Jbillymac 7 ай бұрын
They should add 2 cp back because it adds more variety. The addition of flashpoint made the game feel more fresh and added more to both the map pool and gameplay. 2 cp would only increase that.
@johnsonspark171
@johnsonspark171 7 ай бұрын
2 CP is dogshit
@JustKappu
@JustKappu 4 ай бұрын
@@johnsonspark171 2cp was dogshit because never ending ot because of 2 tanks, 5v5 fixes that
@ZayxDraft
@ZayxDraft 6 ай бұрын
12:09 OW1 without hesitation! i miss my portait grind (being happy of gainng xp every game and stacking those stars on my portrait). I miss my gold farm before every events (lootboxs were far better than that shop that we have now on OW2) who allowed me to buy every cosmetics for free every year, that gave me a "goal"! i miss 6v6. i miss the game without new characters who arent played in rank but who are a pain in the ass in QP. i miss cards at the end of the match. i miss 2CP maps (every one of them). i could keep going like forever so i stop here!
@brodan5647
@brodan5647 7 ай бұрын
best takes on overwatch holy shit
@Poroty
@Poroty 7 ай бұрын
They can have a HUGE playerbase boost simply by announcing they're reverting back to OW1. They're gonna have existing old players pick up their old weapons back and current OW2 fans will show them the ropes and vice versa. Balancing can go eatsht, I have literal thousands of hours of scrimms and comp plays in Dive and Goats, unrecorded only because it was prior to rewards being given in premade lobbies. My point is, I'd still have more fun playing the unbalanced game. Comms and player interactions are what makes multiplayer games. We have current Doom and Echo to dismantle Goats anyway. Not that I know since I don't play OW2 cuz my friends no longer play it 😢
@KuroiHoshiV
@KuroiHoshiV 7 ай бұрын
20:55 That is the main problem with OW2. They weren't willing to retain a lot of things from the past game after the substantial changes they did to a lot of things in the game. Like 6v6 Double Shield would be dead with Orisa changes. Or 2CP being viable with one less tank. Small things like this ended up adding up in a desperate attempt to fundamentally change how OW2 is played that trickled down all the way from OW2 early development. (They focusing on it and leaving OW1 to die a slow death, only to be what we have today.)
@alexbui369
@alexbui369 7 ай бұрын
Another victory for the OGs 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️🦅
@oneandonly5031
@oneandonly5031 7 ай бұрын
Jay isn't wrong I watch his twitch and youtube if this dude worked on Overwatch with the new president of blizzard Overwatch would be fun
@ebhaenger8246
@ebhaenger8246 7 ай бұрын
OW1 or OW2? OW1 and i regret not playing OW1 as i could have done. the most ironic part is, i didn't wanted to play OW1 as much solo so i din't, but now with OW2 even less ppl i know play OW.
@Pheminon1
@Pheminon1 4 ай бұрын
OW2 GM players will never EVER be as good as OW1 GM players EVER Not just skill, but mental as well
@tristand9026
@tristand9026 7 ай бұрын
The OW1 players have significantly more experience.
@MooshPaw
@MooshPaw 7 ай бұрын
It would be awesome if overwatch 1 players got to use the ow1 6v6 ruleset and hero patches while ow2 players used their heroes and ruleset (Sure idk if 6v5 would be balanced but still) Very fun to see ow1 players being dominant still
@ethanwood4789
@ethanwood4789 7 ай бұрын
Nah Jeff Kaplan needs to come back fr.
@Cheechqt
@Cheechqt 14 күн бұрын
That ow1 Lucio was too nice with it
@NEURO-v8j
@NEURO-v8j 7 ай бұрын
Should do a video of Overwatch 1 stats with 6. Vs Overwatch 2 stats with 5 to see if 5v5 truly is better. Obviously removing new ow2 hero’s as their stats are based on ow2 not 1
@theallbeard746
@theallbeard746 7 ай бұрын
Jay speaking nothing but fundamental truths about OW all video long.
@Marshallplayz29
@Marshallplayz29 7 ай бұрын
Imo I will love the passive healing and that's only bc in lower elos and sometimes high supports forget to heal there dps or your team gets wiped bc they're being stupid and you lose all supports or in rare scenarios you tell your team you have no supports and they still run it down
@rodcarrisosa9781
@rodcarrisosa9781 7 ай бұрын
I would say OW1 6v6 is where its at honestly thats what made OW so damn different an unique imo. When you have chaos everywhere that is what made it so damn fun watching OW league was fun too cant wait to see how this new pro scene goes I really hope to see big plays nothing bland.
@BigDug-k1i
@BigDug-k1i 7 ай бұрын
Just a massive dps gap lol, and better coms
@Koriiii
@Koriiii 7 ай бұрын
Just a massive everything gap. OW1 GMs were playing with their food
@davidmyers7618
@davidmyers7618 7 ай бұрын
They’re both chaotic in their own ways. But overall I think OW2 is better CURRENTLY because of 5v5 and ult charge passive to make up for counter picking. The passive for all hero’s to gain HP I feel like won’t be healthy for the game. Flankers will be more of a pain but it will put the supports who are dps on roids in some check. But this leaves the door open for a snowball affect into god knows what.
@FL-uj7cs
@FL-uj7cs 7 ай бұрын
It's not hard to make a hero that counters shields. Like, make Symmetra's beam pierce, or whatever. Blizzard went straight for the nuclear option.
@WhalekinMoonGenshin
@WhalekinMoonGenshin 6 ай бұрын
OW1 GM’s are legit GM’s. OW2 has rank inflation since it’s now a free game so OW2 GM aren’t true GM’s in OW1 standards.
@bardydonahue9441
@bardydonahue9441 7 ай бұрын
Hey Jay3! I think a really cool video idea would be to put masters with comms against grandmasters without comms. I’m curious to see how balanced that would be!
@bridinwitu897
@bridinwitu897 7 ай бұрын
Man the OW1 GM players are in a different universe, watching this shows the massive skill gap that exists. Did they lower the requirements to get into that rank? Or did all the best players move on to other games?
@rezq9109
@rezq9109 7 ай бұрын
gm is way more achievable in ow2, I have no proof, but that's how it feels
@garrison4173
@garrison4173 7 ай бұрын
Ofc the ppl still playing from ow1 would be better than the newer ppl who just started. Doesn’t mean the avg skill of gm then and gm now is different
@noliferetiree1354
@noliferetiree1354 7 ай бұрын
@@garrison4173No it absolutely is that. The knowledge required back then was much higher than now. Notice how the ow1 team would speed out when they lost a teammate? This allows for quicker reengagements. The ow2 team never did that. Notice how the ow1 team had target priority? Or how about how the ow2 team took 4 minutes to use nano blade? That’s because the ow1 team constantly hit them first. Ulting early. There are many many many things that ow1 players had to learn to achieve GM and play with the big boys. GM now is just a time investment. I maintained t500 til I went off to basic training for the army. It was hard as hell. I currently have a 90% win rate in 3 hours solo quing as sombra in GM. I don’t use coms. No one turns around to help their Ana or bap. It is the most free I’ve ever been. It feels like I’m in plat half the time. I don’t even play sombra. I have maybe 10 hours total spanning back to ow1 days. The GMs of old are just better in every possible way when compared to the new ones. It’s because their is a new player base that is populating the rank now because the old players have moved on. It reminds me of the season 2 GMs of ow1. Great, but a lot to learn still. What’s sad is I don’t think they ever will learn. There’s no reason to with the lack of competition nowadays. If the pro scene ever picks back up like it used to be though we might see it.
@selmabrattli
@selmabrattli 7 ай бұрын
Rank in Ow1 was much more rewarding when you won because all the players were better so you knew you deserved your rank and even while loosing, still frustrating as f and happened more frequently, youd at least get levels and hunt for loot boxes. Ow2 is such a tunnel vision since the PVE didnt work out in my opinion. It only wants us to spend money in the game rather than play to be rewarded which kept many of my friends hooked. I wish the devs kept the focus on what it already had, even if their PVE idea at the time before we knew theyd drop it sounded amazingly cool, because then the game would probably be more fun and exciting and they wouldnt have players dropping out left and right. They could likely keep the 2 tank games as well. Such a waste honestly
@xRichieeex
@xRichieeex 7 ай бұрын
the OW2 comes are dead silent tho it's pretty accurate. I commed a lot in plat/diamond in OW1 and I feel like I always got people in voice. In OW2 the comms are dead silent I very rarely get another soul in OW2, until the game ends and someone calls us trash lmao
@JadeRavenn
@JadeRavenn 7 ай бұрын
my people I hit top 500 way back in ow1 s3 and perma quit comp because it was all downhill from there
@badgeow8538
@badgeow8538 7 ай бұрын
I prefer overwatch 1 because of the team work aspects. It was back when comms actually matter and you had to communicate rotations and targets
@gabrielchaney1577
@gabrielchaney1577 7 ай бұрын
Jay's content is the best. His ow1/ow2 takes are either copium or the classic complain-for-content 😂
@kiondagoat
@kiondagoat 7 ай бұрын
look its me LOL
@Chulo102
@Chulo102 7 ай бұрын
is this really how ow1 comms used to be?😂
@snowykitten6860
@snowykitten6860 7 ай бұрын
Yes. And they were entertaining to watch and hear
@AnikethBandi
@AnikethBandi 7 ай бұрын
The difference in comms is clear here and in ranked. Even in gold back in ow1 people commed and shit but now its dead silent. Its a shame too because if you make an effort to make comms and you know what your doing, everyone will kinda just listen to you and your essentially better than the enemy team. Vs. back in the ow1 days even post goats where mfs would be calling out so much stuff and you kinda just learned how to understand everything through the mess.
@jayl1349
@jayl1349 7 ай бұрын
As a dps in OW1, I gotta say that I hate two tanks and two shield sooooooooo much, it makes each kill waste too much time, and 2CP is a dogshit mode.
@Kayleighx420
@Kayleighx420 7 ай бұрын
Man i miss ow1 the way we would coordinate and work together those were the best times happy i was apart of it❤
@anthonyluck3801
@anthonyluck3801 7 ай бұрын
I would’ve loved to be apart of this because I was top 500/grandmaster from season 1 till season 17 and then stopped playing
@azseal2669
@azseal2669 7 ай бұрын
What if they made it so that you can get lootboxes in the prestige tier of the bp as well as cosmetic titles? 🤔 Also Ow1 was king just for Rein+Zarya on King's Row.
@bureboi
@bureboi 7 ай бұрын
another banger from the goat
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