Israel 'Worse Than Apartheid': South African Jewish Former ANC Politician Andrew Feinstein

It's rare that I end an interview on the brink of tears, but this was such a powerful interview with former ANC MP Andrew Feinstein. He tells me his family history of surviving the Holocaust - unlike so many of his relatives - and how this informed his struggle against Apartheid.
But he tells me why Israel's oppression of the Palestinians is worse than Apartheid, why the anti-apartheid movement is an example to now follow, the silencing of pro-Palestinian voices, South Africa's case against Israel alleging genocide - and why history shows we have a responsibility to speak out.
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[@FrankBarat77]

you're interviewing all my friends Owen. Haha. Great job!

[@snarf0596]

Great work Owen you are an amazing person to keep bringing people to talk about this issue. I haven't seen any clips of you on mainstream media lately. Hopefully you get back on there soon to win over the boomers.

[@captainmajed2078]

Owen thanks so much for all you've covered, it's having an impact. And this interview was the best one so far, such a powerful message!

[@meetings3071]

​@@captainmajed2078 Yep. Owen work is superb.

[@thelastaustralian7583]

Since the end of WW2 Australia has been destroyed beyond repair both ecologically and socially . This was due to covert foreign psychopathic controlled . Currently to accelerate the total destruction . Millions of Third World Migrants are flooding in ...

[@MikeL-7]

All South Africans can feel justly proud at being the first nation to step forward and say this must stop.

[@africanhistory]

More will follow, itis a moment for the annals of history..

[@meetings3071]

Indeed. I feel very proud of my country, South Africa. *_South Africa 🇿🇦 will always stand with Palestine! Now and forever!_* 🇵🇸 🇿🇦 ❤️ 🖤 🤍 💚 🇵🇸

[@AS-tu2ml]

Indeed, I feel proud of that when I'm not even south african.

[@halfpakichick]

I have a lot of love and respect for South Africa ❤️

[@pricklypear7497]

Indeed

[@MichaelSmikle-np2dq]

No country or state is better placed to know what apartheid is than South Africa.

[@Myanmartiger921]

agree superpower south africa with 24/7 electricity and private security forces larger than army and police combined.

[@meetings3071]

Indeed, South Africa 🇿🇦 knows will how to dismantle Apartheid from Israel, for the liberation of Palestine 🇵🇸. *_South Africa 🇿🇦 stands with Palestine! Now and forever!_* 🇵🇸

[@user-oblomov]

✌✌✌​@@meetings3071

[@richardduplessis1090]

Of course, but it wasn't genocide as it is in Gaza.

[@glynlewisacoustic5704]

@@Myanmartiger921 exactly

[@jturkmen777]

"Palestine is the most important moral issue of our time." This made me cry.

[@OwenJonesTalks]

Think you could see me holding back the tears there!

[@theliamofella]

@@OwenJonesTalksgod bless your soul

[@cdean2789]

Fact

[@arshadhaque1460]

That resonated with me too

[@NakunaruTenshi]

Totally agree.

[@jochitenden4051]

I remember my parents teaching me about the power of boycotting. They never bought anything that came from S/A until the day apartheid ended, neither have they bought Israeli products for years. The wisdom of the elders in my family has always humbled me, and this wisdom is always being passed on. In a nutshell be a human and never support the oppression of any other...

[@tekis0]

I avoid Israeli products as well.

[@spati0809]

Thank you 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@mikesweetwater3209]

Your parents sound amazing! ❤🇵🇸

[@stephendoherty981]

Thank you, South Africa, for standing up for the children of Gaza.

[@brian33270]

Yes, the children of Gaza, who spit on the corpses of naked women. Show some gratitude!

[@monikahopfer2598]

❤❤❤

[@SubjectiveFunny]

How about we stand up for ourselves? The ANC has NO right to lecture ANYONE on the treatment of people. Disgusting, corrupt and morally bankrupt politicians are all as bad as each other.

[@rfuzzybearx1792]

South Africa is the biggest dump on the planet, Itl have zero effect

[@jacquesdewet2661]

Yes were thousands of South African children are murdered every year and thousands of South African children give birth to children. Oh how wonderful freedom is!

[@SavageIntent]

I am actually German, and while my fellow Germans cannot bring themselves to even think that Israel might be in the wrong, I grew up in Cape Town, and I learned about Apartheid and colonialism in school, and I am glad I did. Very proud of SA.

[@Never_again_against_anyone]

Fellow German here. It is obvious once you know enough and do not only get twisted facts. Which is the decisive point...

[@user-oblomov]

👍👍👍

[@mogamadgreyson143]

Thank you...❤❤❤

[@Jouantiese]

What did you learn - IEB or CED history syllabus, lol - what a joke!

[@soniama5246]

I actually thought it would be Germany doing what south Africa did to take isreal to the un justice court

[@rossbaker9721]

I’ve felt angry, numb and despairing everyday since Israel started destroying Gaza and its people.

[@brian33270]

And you were oblivious to the slaughter of Israelis on the 7th of October? What a lovely sensitive soul!. Your tears started on the 8th of October

[@TVeldhorst]

​​@@brian33270And are you aware that that was a (albeit horrible) response on 75 years of apartheid, occupation, oppression, land grabbing and killing of civilians and children? Where is YOUR understanding here now? And where is YOUR compassion with 30.000 people killed in a few months, 40% children (who definitly were not responsible for 7th of oct). Stop defending genocide. Israel is not the greatest "victim" here. And yes, OP understood what the 7th would provoke and that it would mean immense suffering for civilians in Gaza, bc Israel has been rather clear in their capacity for cruelty for a long time (way before the 7th).

[@rahmed5701]

​@@brian33270and you need to read a history book because it didn't start on Oct 7th. This is what you took from this interview?

[@tekis0]

@@brian33270It’s not about “October 7th,” it is about October 6th!

[@biscuit4259]

@@brian33270comments for the shitbag.

[@dingtonia]

Another riveting interview. As a white South African who lived in South Africa during those awful, horrific years, it is a constant deep sadness for me that I wasn’t more active and more vocal during that time. I had no real platform except as a teacher, and I spent many years teaching both black and white high school students, trying to open minds and support individual struggles. It came to the point where my sense of helplessness overwhelmed me and I left. I’m back in South Africa now and every day I’m almost on my knees with gratitude that this beautiful country is where is it today. My support for Palestine is absolutely unconditional. Keep on keeping on Owen.

[@sibzism]

We South Africans have so much to offer the world ❤❤ I love our country! 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@ritamedina-molina8550]

I also grew up during apartheid as a poor white..stop begging for attention mr Feinstein

[@TD1237]

​@@sibzismOur people are great! 🇿🇦🇵🇸❤

[@felicitynefdt9926]

Why were you poor white? Were your parents not able to make use of the opportunities and privileges made available to all white people? Did they have mental or addiction problems? ​@@ritamedina-molina8550

[@zahedamohameds8359]

Thank you ❤😢🇵🇸

[@raziablanchard2711]

Thank You Andrew for talking about our South African Apartheid system. I am in my 70's, being of color and having grown up in the Apartheid system. My heart is completely with the Palestinians. Their Apartheid is so much worse, its Brutal 💔

[@drugsdelaney2907]

Thank you for sharing! Agreed on all fronts, but I was wondering how SA is these days? I’d love to visit some day.

[@gerryburntwood9617]

✊🏾🇵🇸🇿🇦

[@neatznotso7424]

Thank you for speaking out, I think its so important that people hear from people like you who grew up in that system, no one, other then Palestinians themselves, are better to speak on apartheid in Israel. It seems so crazy to me that there are people out there who still deny that Israel is an apartheid state, considering how much evidence there is it almost feels like people who deny this live in a whole different reality.

[@elle9388]

I’m really sorry for all that you must have experienced in your years.

[@neilfriedman]

Having lived through the worst of apartheid, I have always said what Israel has done for over 70 years has been way, way worse than south african apartheid

[@gabebabe1]

Really?

[@neilfriedman]

@@gabebabe1 really.

[@MustardSkaven]

You understand any claims of apartheid could only ever possibly apply to Israel proper and not Gaza or West Bank, right? You can't have apartheid with an occupied territory. If that were the case, the Western occupation of Germany was also apartheid, so was Soviet occupation of Germany, so was German occupation of European countries, etc. Basically every single military occupation in history would be "apartheid". And then the word has no meaning anymore.

[@arize84]

​@@MustardSkavenPlease educate us on the best way to describe what is happening between Israeli and Palestinians.

[@ceceliacharles4570]

​@MustardSkaven what the hell are you talking about? Let me get Julius Malema to explain it to you. Unless you see anything remotely close to apartheid or living under apartheid or an ancestors of slave.

[@amania9254]

So much respect to your guest and South Africa 🇿🇦 in general in case opposing Apartheid, Genocide and Ethnic cleansing!

[@4424718]

Somebody must open a case against South Africa because they are ethnically cleansing the white farmers in South Africa

[@ESO529]

You both are people ... no ... human beings with the moral compass intact and pointing straight at what makes us humans. Thank you so much for this deep reaching interview and also insight into SA Apartheid. We took to the streets in my young days in Switzerland in support of Nelson "Madiba" Mandela - may he rest in eternal peace 🙏🙏 - and I feel honoured to have had the privilege to listen to Andrew Feinstein. Thank you and stay safe!!

[@eugeneheeger3284]

Brilliant, brilliant guest and interview!!! As a fellow former South African (Cape Tonian) I salute his honesty, moral integrity and strength of conviction! It's people like Andrew and his family who are the real moral heroes we need to listen to!!!

[@meetings3071]

Indeed. Thank you for this amazing gift. Regard from another Capetonian from South Africa. 🇿🇦

[@user-og2bm6hl4l]

​@@RIETIE761 There is always one clown in the audience. 😅

[@meetings3071]

​@@RIETIE761 Clearly, you did not listen to the same interview that we listened to.

[@MelCollins-uo4zu]

Don't ever forget the victims of racism and apartheid.

[@sarahkhan8383]

I was actually really surprised but so grateful that South Africa has recognised that what is happening to Palestinians is indeed apartheid and oppression. I saw a video today of a sniper having shot a baby and father in Gaza as they were walking, the father as dying puts his hands on his daughter who is already shot dead. I am just truly sickened by Israel 's brutality. What makes me feel better is that there is always an end for the opressers and Israel will see its end, humanity always wins over Evil. 😢

[@suzyqualcast6269]

Thought the newest nation would have known better, with its many constituents grandparents having gone through so much in another place and time, but greed (oil), knows no bounds. Never mind a better view of the Med.

[@mogamadgreyson143]

😢😢😢😢😢

[@napez4126]

Despite all our political despots and short falls…. I am SO proud to be South African

[@user-dr6qh5zo6r]

Maybe when they say never again they really mean it…

[@theonly6359]

😰😰😰😰

[@ZohraFtaiti]

Thank you South Africa for standing for the rule of law for everyone 🙏💚🇵🇸🇿🇦

[@brian33270]

Rule of law. Hysterical

[@TD1237]

And for defending humanity. 🇿🇦 🇵🇸

[@ruthhoud5008]

Brilliant! Thank you. One of the most powerful interviews I've ever listened to. Gives me hope that a fight for justice might prevail for Palestine.

[@FSMDog]

Powerful interview,, as someone who was part of the anti-apartheid movement, this is powerful stuff

[@meetings3071]

It is powerful indeed, and gives _excellent contextual, political and historical colour to Palestine 🇵🇸 and South Africa. 🇿🇦_ 🇿🇦 ❤️ 🖤 🤍 💚 🇵🇸

[@forwadnothing8212]

yes, I agree. It would be much more impactful if only Owen Jones weren't considered an antisemite... for being a whistle blower... Years ago... And not because Israel labels everyone antisemetic...

[@61bullet43]

Punks were anti apartheid and pro Palestine. We still are.

[@kirstymiller9332]

I'd forgotten what I had done, how I had fought. And here I am again, but this is different. These dudes are supported by our politicians. That's where we need to start. I find talking to the person next to me is as rewarding as commenting here. Strength to you 🤗 Peace and freedom for Palestine 💪✌️

[@ssheik004]

Even if there are differences in the apartheid spectrum no one can doubt clear cut persecution, dehumanisation and systematic destruction of human spirit in SA and Palestine. That practice had existed in occupied West Bank and Gaza way before October 8. Many human beings around the world are watching it from the lens of injustice and the western politicians are bent backwards to justify injustice exercised by Israel.

[@aquasal3456]

Happening now: The Israeli Foreign Ministry sends urgent messages to all world leaders through their embassies to condemn South Africa's lawsuit before the International Court of Justice. They are scared to death, as the lawsuit is fat and loaded of crimes.

[@trulyyoursshinchan]

is this really happening? source? if i may ask

[@JOHN-wm2on]

​@@trulyyoursshinchanJust look at the document bruh

[@louischamoun7072]

As should the USA as the convention in section 3 article E states that complicity is also an offence.

[@hashamreyaz2464]

@@Synphthefirst i completely disagree with you but damn that's a weirdly funny comment. XD

[@JOHN-wm2on]

@@Synphthefirst Are you 5 years of age? You certainly talk like one.

[@RobHel]

Another incredible conversation! Over the last weeks Owen did a phenomenal job, bringing on incredibly interesting guests to have even better conversations. These interviews and reporting in general makes his channel one of the best here on this platform and I'm learning so much by listening to him. I really, really appreciate him and his work. To their points about Germany and the insane stance on Antisemitism. Here in Germany an MP from the social democrats literally said "Free Palestine is Antisemitic and "Anti Israel rhetoric" There are several MP's, politicians, ministers aso from all major political parties, who want to throw immigrants out of the country when they participate in protests against the current genocidal campaign in Gaza and for Palestinian human rights in general... It is actually insane, what is going on here!

[@davidhirsch4851]

Owen Jones demonstrates why demotic speech and gesture such as Cockney is eschewed by people who want to discuss grave issues. Are we all to pretend that his interviews are more authentic because wears his class on his sleeve?

[@RobHel]

I don't really get what you're trying to say, I'm sorry...

[@shelleydavis5231]

Eloquent, articulate and just an absolute pleasure to have listened to! Please could you invite Andrew again and again, he is an absolute gem. Thank you, well done with this interview, it was intriguing, interesting and informative 👏

[@Simon-xc6iy]

Mr Feinstein you have spoken powerfully. Nelson Mandela has physically departed but you are the proof He lives!

[@vivicohen199]

@Simon-xc6iy: This exquisite tribute to Andrew makes me cry. What you say, Simon, is so true. (From Cape Town) 💖

[@brian33270]

Nelson Mandela would not have supported Hamas. He supported the Palestinian right to self-determination. Big difference. He wasn't into Jihadism masked as nationalism

[@Simon-xc6iy]

@@brian33270 thanks for that Brian. Free Palestine

[@Barlos3131]

​And yet Benjamin Netanyahu and Isreal supporterted and help sponsor Hamas to undermine the political efforts of PLO etc.... ​@@brian33270

[@oneiljunior9837]

@@brian33270😂😂

[@nadine9053]

Why do I cry when I listen to this? I'm Palestinian but I live in an European country and I feel that nobody have listen to us before 7 October?

[@mogamadgreyson143]

We have that's why their is such an outcry through the world,I am so sorry for what has been don't to you, we have suffered so much with you,we have been depressed and cried a million tears every day for you and prayed a million prayers for you,and spoken up for you exactly as Andrew Feinstein describes,we have been insulted and suspended and abused for standing with Palistine but we will never give up..❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@suzyqualcast6269]

We were aware but now it's been underlined

[@arimas1977]

We love you ❤

[@khethiwezulu6706]

We’ve been listening. We’ve been crying with you for a long long time in South Africa. We are just so relieved that the world is catching up.

[@cleopatragrafakou7534]

Having spent my life in Greece I have always felt that the greek society has always had feelings of solidarity and understanding for Palestinians. A few years ago our politicians did too. Not now, unfortunately. But many greeks never stopped caring, worrying, getting informed and helping in any way possible. Personally I admire your courage and the love for your motherland. I hope your suffering will soon end up in peace and freedom! ❤️

[@mariannebarnard7048]

Thank you for this Andrew and Owen. Proudly South African.

[@brian33270]

I hope you have your passport in order. Cyril and Jacob can stamp it for you. Didn't Malema promise to shoot the Boer? Proudly South African simian

[@TD1237]

Same here! ❤️ 🇿🇦 🇵🇸

[@sebafranc5089]

Ditto

[@durjoy2k]

Thank you, Owen and Andrew, for restoring my faith in humanity; there is always hope when we have wonderful people like you in this world.

[@user-dy6mc4iw9v]

South African on the right side of history 🇿🇦✊🏿👏🏽

[@khairulhelmihashim2510]

the goal of apartheid in south Africa is to maintain dominance of minority white Afrikaans in politics and economy, while in Israel it is designed to break Palestinians will to continue to live on their land, and facilitate the ethnic cleansing.

[@sereanaduwai8313]

That’s the whole truth.

[@AlfieDoolittle007]

$500 Billion dollars worth of Gas has been discovered off Gazan shores. That plus the value of nearly 20 miles of shoreline are factored into their plans.

[@socialroi2673]

The goal of apartheid in South Africa was to steal the gold and diamonds. Highest exporter in the world during apartheid, the South African rand was stronger than the GBP.

[@obi-wankedogi]

And I'm finding it more and more unacceptable that they've been allowed to do whatever they want - and what they want is to do whatever they please. It's beyond disgusting. But the effing gaslighting about "antisemitism" should come with criminal charges.

[@lenina61]

Wow, well said

[@alexisxavana5757]

"Palestine is the most important moral issue of our time" - Andrew Feinstein

[@stephenglasse2743]

that's clearly false and demonstrates his racism and moral vacuity. firstly, ABORTION is the most important. In uk alone something like 100 000+ lives are snuffed out every year! Just 2-3 years of abortion in uk kills more human lives than entire arab israeli conflict. ever. secondly more lives have been ended in yemen since 2014 than in entire arab israeli conflict! Andrew is morally blind.

[@biscuit4259]

He was quoting Mandela

[@rahmed5701]

An excellent interview. Thank you Andrew Feinstein for your crucial insight and always standing with humanity

[@Altanmarko1]

“You can’t go about your daily life if you could conceive what is happening in Gaza” As an affluent agnostic person living in İstanbul this is what’s happening to me.

[@moemimouni679]

SAME HERE 🇨🇦🎯💯🇵🇸

[@izebellebluereadsoutloud3715]

Me too. I’m in the US, greater-metro NYC. I start my first day of university classes way up north of here in ten days. I still haven’t confirmed my housing assignment so I can pay the first bill in five days. I don’t even have it together enough to go to DC for the protest in a few days.

[@izebellebluereadsoutloud3715]

Mostly because I don’t have a car. It’s a whole thing to travel publicly, and extra time.

[@anarivera8852]

@@izebellebluereadsoutloud3715there are buses for a modique sum

[@Joysings86]

Same here. I can't even enjoy everyday pleasures when I think about the people of Palestine and their daily plight to be free.

[@eltonbezuidenhout9506]

Listening from South Africa 🇿🇦 and can’t be more grateful for this to be in the public domain. Courage in adversity! 🇵🇸Truth to power. Praying this genocide end’s & reflection on our global morality ensues because when one turns one’s eyes on injustice humanity looses! Tomorrow who’s next…

[@batulhashim872]

Wow.. Respect to both these amazing individuals

[@intothevoid6674]

Excellent interview, brilliant journalism. Thank you, Owen

[@shaybritting6019]

Thanks, Owen Jones, for this report, you are amazing + so is your guest, PRAYERS YOU ALL SUCCEED TO FREE PALESTINE N-O-W, TODAY❤ 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸

[@109PokerFace]

I think Americans tend to forget that the US in the days of slavery was a system of apartheid.

[@MariaNI-yf1bz]

Merica= root of fas cism

[@tinaforbes1059]

Yes, without the bombing .

[@Cui-bono987]

No slavery was slavery. Jim Crow was America’s apartheid.

[@Loveandpeace2357]

Our American politicians are owned by Israel lobby aipac 😡

[@siogbeagbideach]

​@@tinaforbes1059my comment vanished, I can't see it anyway, Philadelphia, May 13th 1985

[@jaydef6497]

Andrew: “I wish I knew how Thatcher reacted” Owen: “So would I!” Me alone in my car: “me too!!!!”

[@OwenJonesTalks]

🤣🤣

[@cdean2789]

She probably had a little pee running down her leg.

[@user-xj2im1ep3o]

Nelson Mandela met Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher in 1990. The footage, and discussion about what they said, is on the internet.

[@juliegriffiths4272]

Thank you again, another insightful and interesting interview. Please keep using your voices to speak out and call out the atrocities happening, not only across the globe, but more so in Palistine and for the Palistinians who are being exterminated. Shame on all those who conspire and collude with the Israeli defence.

[@wot4922]

A truly unique point of view that only a South African can give. Thank you Andrew for all you've done for our country and our people and for what you continue to do.✌🇿🇦

[@claudettelewis8808]

Thank you Owen and Andrew. As a South African, thank for giving Andrew the platform to discuss our struggle and relationship with the Palestinian people ❤🇵🇸🇿🇦

[@davidchadd2173]

For the first time after listening to such a profoundly important interview, I can actually feel a little bit of hope that maybe just maybe, justice is on its way to Palestine after75 years of struggle and incomprehensible suffering. ❤

[@Kas-kw4xf]

Another magnificent guest. On a selfish yet embarrassing note, since Oct 7th, I have learnt so much about our world. It has been so depressing with feelings of helplessness. So reassuring to know there are brilliantly powerful people out there who are on the side of humanity, love, and care.

[@sabatalsharif8948]

❤

[@Anonymous1dskjoadi93]

"The Palestinians have the right to hate the people who destroyed their lives" -Norman Finkelstein

[@a.t8097]

Very right

[@yannip2083]

EXACTLY.

[@yisraelwoolf2936]

They destroyed their own lives. Why have they refused every offer of their own state?

[@Wulture]

​@@yisraelwoolf2936palestine has never been offered full statehood with the rights to have a military.

[@samara6041]

@yisraelwoolf2936 Gross victim blaming. And why should they accept foreign forces carving their ancestral homeland like Swiss cheese and then only receiving the crumbs???

[@user-dy6mc4iw9v]

Injustice somewhere is injustice everywhere. Let’s hope for peace and justice to prevail.

[@user-rh9gc3rf3x]

👌

[@ads2903]

An astonishing interview Owen, i was in tears by the end. Thank you for using your voice.

[@Lordram120]

Andrew Feinstein is such a moral human being. It is just such a contrast with the moral depraved people we find in American media. Thanks Owen.

[@hanobeukes3918]

What else do you know about him to make such a statement?

[@brian33270]

@@hanobeukes3918 Exactly. They don't and both Jones and Feinstein know very little about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Look on KZbin for a brilliant journalist called Haviv Rettig Gur. You will understand very quickly how limited these journalists are

[@oneiljunior9837]

@@brian33270😂

[@penyarol83]

@@brian33270🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@ritamedina-molina8550]

😅

[@junaidpeters2615]

Well done Owen 👏 great interview.

[@meetings3071]

Excellent interview. 👍 Thank you, Owen.

[@quentinduplooy9868]

In South Africa, we don't dignify apartheid with a capital A

[@Anarchy-Is-Liberty]

I'm sorry. Need a safe space?

[@meetings3071]

But these days, I give Apartheid a capital "A" so people don't forget, eg Apartheid Israel ☠️ (I am also South African.)

[@chrisreynolds3351]

Grammatically, Apartheid as a single subject is always capitalised. But you have freedom of choice.

[@HansCoche]

Apsrtheid should be written with a capital A as it was the name of a system exclusively to SA. What Israel has is a thousand times worse, so not Apartheid.

[@MichaelVumile-jb3lb]

If you know you know.

[@clarkehinds1558]

Honestly, this was one of the best interviews I've watched in quite some time. Thank you. 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

[@nafeesanaz]

Always love that you bring guests to talk about this! I hope this horror stops soon 💔 💔 💔

[@kfr7867]

Agree wholeheartedly with the last statement, " Palestine is the moral issue of the times!!! " Anyone with principles and morality will be unable to stay away or be blind to what is happening!!!

[@kerrydevlin]

Absolutely brilliant Owen,I could have listened to Andrew for hours. Thank you both.

[@paulkeogh7077]

Wish I could give this interview 10 thumbs up. Well, why not do it 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍

[@ericbruce3123]

Hi there Owen, your interview with Andrew Feinstein, for me growing up in Apartheid era South Africa and having spend over 3 years in Israel really struck a cord with me. Brilliant. Many thanks and solidarity. Eric

[@user-vy8pc8ei6q]

Thank you Owen and Andrew for speaking up with such clarity and humanity.

[@DanielleSimone21]

Powerful interview. Huge respect for your coverage on this genocide against the Palestinians, my heart breaks 🇵🇸

[@jylyhughes5085]

Oh my goodness! This is such an emotional and powerful dialogue. Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 Thank you Owen, thank you Andrew ... You are heroes ✊🇵🇸✊

[@masc2855]

Thank you Andrew. We will continue to amplify the Palestinian voices

[@alexanderschweiger5882]

I still recall the concert in tribute to Mandela‘s 70th birthday in 1988. I was 14 years old and it politicised me. We can do this again🍉🇵🇸

[@Susan-py9qh]

Incredibly moving talk and explanations. This needs to be broadcast far and wide.

[@scrollkeeper5272]

As a young white South African adult (22) I would like to personally thank you Owen and Mr. Feinstein for this fascinating discussion. I've only recently gained an understanding of where I stand in politics and have always found topics like these messy and very complicated, but you both made it easy to understand and expanded my knowledge of my nation's history. Thank you very much and I sincerely hope that there will one day be a time where we can finally say that we have won the struggle for freedom.

[@ashoakwillow]

You're getting some great interviews Owen; intellects like Andrew's really help us to understand the forces driving social and environmental destruction. That in turn helps us to be better advocates and activists, even if it's just in discussions with family and friends.

[@user-dy6mc4iw9v]

If you are South African, be proud of your country. 🇿🇦👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@meetings3071]

I am South African and am indeed proud. *_South Africa 🇿🇦 will always stand with Palestine, now and forever!_* 🇿🇦 ❤️ 🖤 🤍 💚 🇵🇸

[@boy123istacken]

maybe if south africa really cared they would instead be supportive of hostage releases descilation of houthis and the condemning of hamas using hospitals for war if they did they could actually speed up the process of the war that will actually save lives rather then just keep delaying the war by showing off to the world oh apartheid how horrid we should yell at you because that will stop the war

[@nileshmorar8676]

In this case I a really am. This was Madibas wish so we have no choice.

[@mogamadgreyson143]

We are proud of Madiba and we are proud of our country ,thank you..❤❤❤

[@brian33270]

especially for being one of the few countries to host a Hamas office in Johannesburg and befriend peace loving Iran

[@noxolotshabangu8055]

Comrade Owen, Comrade Andrew well done! Thank you!

[@brian33270]

Comrade. Lol🤣😂🤣😂

[@napez4126]

Amandla 👊🏼

[@salaamadavids-esmael5342]

Definitely one of the most powerful interviews you've ever done! Thank you Owen...I identify with Andrew Feinstein he is a true South African. Thank you Andrew ❤️🇿🇦🇵🇸

[@DebPercy]

Another fantastic interview. Thank you owen for bringing voices of experts like this to a wider audience. Fascinating speaker.

[@user-eo3gb1cq9d]

The truth wil always reveal I live in south Africa ur guests talking the truth iam so happy that south Africa 🇿🇦 taking Israel to the ICJ court other countries needs to follow

[@meetings3071]

Me too. Warm regards from Cape Town, South Africa. 🇿🇦

[@user-dy6mc4iw9v]

Bravo South Africa 🇿🇦

[@truthalltheway6791]

Thank you Owen. I watch each and every video of yours. And i am learning so much about Israel and Palestine through your videos

[@lucyelton7139]

Thank you to Andrew for adding such a moral and inspirational interview. As a human I'm thankful. Keep safe. Lucy from off grid boat.

[@lebogangmokgosi5729]

This interview was amazing✨🇿🇦!!! From a fellow South African🇿🇦❤️.

[@yaseenparker2906]

As a South African and also hailing from Cape Town, I couldn't agree more with Andrew. He makes us proud as a principled man.

[@hahajaz1]

This is one of the most incredible interviews I have heard. Thank you both for the enlightenment.

[@lebogangmokgosi5729]

Thank you❤️🇿🇦 Andrew Feinstein.

[@mariaa.2622]

Owen, your interviews are very informative. Thank you.

[@KalelAr]

Extremely clear, thorough, and powerful interview from someone who stood with Nelson Mandela against injustice and is standing up again now. Thank you Owen and Andrew. Please like this video and increase the reach. Let’s not let those who are dying in Gaza while exposing the horrors that they are witnessing die in vain.

[@ravenblack7052]

I haven't even watch this yet, saw my fellow South African Andrew on the thumb nail and had to express my absolute delight to see him on this channel! ❤🇿🇦

[@hakimej4981]

That was amazing, and so inspiring, I'd love to hear more things like this in the media. Thank you to both of you!

[@nasreenismail1731]

Kuddos to you two Gentlemen. Brilliant giants in our WORLD. from SOUTH AFRICA

[@plaaskop]

well done Owen Jones...an incredibly powerful interview and what a privilege to hear Mr. Feinstein tell his story. Salute to both of you. Many thanks.

[@Saphia-lu1tq]

Hi Owen and your guest Thank you for the immense outstanding Humanity. ❤❤❤❤❤

[@parkerburdette]

Fantastic interview! This needs to be spread far and wide.

[@pennymayphilip9646]

Andrew....thanks for sharing with honesty! You make South African proud ❤

[@kateshane8277]

Thank you Owen for spreading the knowledge of Palestine one interview at a time. Daily, weekly, monthly, you have expanded the minds of so many. Knowledge is a powerful tool.

[@brian33270]

Knowledge according to Owen, who fixates on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, demonises Israel and avoids discussing real genocides like in Syria, where Bashir Al Hassad poisoned his own people. What a hero Owen is

[@moemimouni679]

🎯💯🇵🇸

[@carlo6912]

Wonderful discussion, thank you for sharing. We won't be silenced, they deserve to live to!!

[@michelmlarocque]

Amazing, brilliant interview! I teared up as well in the end. Thank you so much for your work, Owen. The least we can do is inform ourselves and bear witness to injustice. 🙏🏻

[@sharmilahadams-israel2087]

We have a plight as South Africans who have lived an Apartheid Regime to take the brave stand and FIGHT this Genocide. Thank you Andrew.

[@Princess90547]

@sharmilahadams-israel2087 Quite honestly, I think you South Africans need to mind your own business first. You need to take the brave stand and fight the crimes against humanity happening right there, every minute, every hour, every day.

[@billcraig5178]

Fantastic interview. I don't think I have ever heard the moral case against Israeli apartheid so brilliantly and movingly articulated.

[@briannec2016]

I would highly suggest watching Two Blue Lines. It's HEARTBREAKING. I watched it a couple years ago, then again today, and cried.

[@alleymed0250]

Fantastic interview, concise and educational, well done Owen.

[@meetings3071]

Absolutely. 💯

[@bassman777]

The fact that South Africa sued Israel over this speaks VOLUMES.

[@lukebranson]

Brilliant work Owen bloke, my heart truly goes out to you and all your guests ❤❤❤

[@Isimud]

Thank you! As a German who is just experiencing how the freedom of speech as guaranteed by our constitution has been restricted by the government and people are frightened to speak out, it is a relief to get thoughtful voices based on the principles of the general human rights. As of now everybody in Germany who gets a funding by the government has to sign an agreement to conform to the IHRA definition of antisemitism, meaning that basically every critique of the Israeli system is deemed antisemitic and will lead to the loss of fundings. The silence and opportunism of the cultural sector and media is the most shocking.

[@ravenblack7052]

The only way to change that, is to fight the system. Perhaps it's easy for me to say as a South African. Perhaps it's in our blood to always stand up to bullies. Question for your German people: why are you so accepting of dictatorships? Let's face it, it's exactly what you've described and of course, we know your history. Is it not time to change this?

[@IngridHurwitz]

Absolutely egregious and Germany will live to regret being on the wrong side of history again

[@lohikarhu734]

And, if some politicians have their way, someone who immigrated to Germany, and became a citizen, would lose their citizenship and face deportation ... for criticizing another country! !

[@suzyqualcast6269]

From 🇬🇧 : F the proportionate grabbing descendents. OK? Okeh.

[@Jouantiese]

Wonderful that you're in the underwhelming minority, and will remain as such.

[@tinaforbes1059]

Thank you Owen , for bringing in Mr .Feinstein as your guest . What an eye opener .

[@dariusfisher438]

Wow Owen. Such a powerful interview. I'm still in tears. Thank you and Andrew sooo much! share this with everyone, everyone!

[@murraymicha]

This interview took place a month before Andrew Feinstein was chosen to stand against Keir Starmer in the forthcoming GE which makes it all the more relevant. Especially to Holborn and St Pancras constituency.

[@yabangeedamat1907]

We need more people like Andrew Feinstein in key government positions in order to affect some change!

[@hanobeukes3918]

He could not get a key possession in South Africa because he is white.

[@nickinman6025]

Very powerful! This interview should be primetime TV so the masses could start to digest the truth. Two wonderful people being epic.

[@Barlos3131]

They wont dare... Its against the agenda they have to follow

[@xudayi]

Andrew brings real experience in the current ongoing apartheid in Palestine. He has seen Apartheid before and knows what he sees is Apartheid.

[@boy123istacken]

it seems to me he is a hammer and sees everything as a nail youtube channels are an apartheid to youtube companys are apartheid to teh government and employees are apartheid to there jobs veiwers are apartheid to youtube channels the point is if you spend your whole life looking for apartheid your gonna find it everywhere and your gonna have arguments for why its an apartheid in a moments notice

[@meetings3071]

I agree 💯. Andrew's experience brings depth of knowledge and insight into the Genocide being perpetrated by Apartheid Israel.

[@canteluna]

Except comparing Israel-Palestine to South African apartheid is completely factless.

[@meetings3071]

​@@canteluna You are incorrect. Israel is a blatant Apartheid state, but don't take my word for it. Go to the *Amnesty International website* and see for yourself that Israel is an Apartheid State. Or even Google *_B'tselem Apartheid_* to see the *Israeli Human Rights organization classify Israel as an Apartheid state.*

[@ABB56.]

@@canteluna Oh does it…please enlighten us?

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

What a fantastic interview. Andrew is an amazing man and Owen is quite frankly one of the finest journalists the UK currently has

[@syahrulh687]

If this interview can be cut into small pieces (each Q&A made into one clip) and posted to Tiktok / Facebook / Instagram /KZbin shorts, they would reach more views for the world to listen to. Great interview.

[@zoyailpatel3608]

Proudly South African here,❤❤❤

[@Mourirpourdesidees]

Brilliant interview. Gave me hope that the Palestinians aren’t alone. Well done, Owen!

[@tsatsanemohale4358]

Andrew, thank you for a powerful and truthful talk.