I was WRONG about the PATTON S

[@Tomsflyingcircus]

6282 miles on my Patton from ewheels. eride pedals from your store. still going strong. A great euc, leperkim makes the best. Built like the tank it was named after.

[@OWGAC]

Its really a well built and fun to ride wheel!

[@EclecticWizard6]

I have an OG Batch 1 Patton with over 4000 miles that I love dearly and have had zero issues with other than one flat tire. I upgraded the springs to progressive 70lb to fix my main gripe which was the bottoming out issue and now that the Patton-S has progressive suspension I will likely swap the springs again to get the 66lb progressive suspension I have always wanted when they become available. Its great they refined the wheel however I would have liked to have seen a bit more power and range even if it meant keeping the weight they trimmed off and honestly 90mm of suspension travel. For now I'll stick with my OG Patton. Nothing has come out or is coming out that justifies an upgrade unless they make the "Lynx-S" so to speak.

[@dustinhankins2153]

Why not upgrade to the current Lynx?

[@EclecticWizard6]

@@dustinhankins2153 Not worth the money to upgrade unless I found a good deal on a used one. Happy with what I have for probably another year or so in which time there will be new wheels to consider.

[@OWGAC]

the ride feel for the lynx is really different from the Patton, less agile but a good bit more stability at speed. But no, if you have the original this isn't enough of a change to worth an upgrade

[@freeforester1717]

Happy Christmas Hsiang, many thanks for all you do to spread the good word and for bringing us great EUC content!

[@OWGAC]

thank you and Merry Christmas to you too!!

[@macswanton9622]

I always enjoy the gopher's-eye view, when going off road 'where the rubber meets the dirt'.

[@OWGAC]

LOL yeah its my 2nd favorite view, next to the behind the butt view! LOL

[@patrickmckowen2999]

Great video as usual 👍

[@OWGAC]

Thank you!

[@darioivicek5473]

love my Patton OG, no need for upgrade jet. ❤

[@Tklatti01]

As always. Great editing and info! I run that same tire.. I really like it

[@OWGAC]

Thank you!!

[@manolocomanoloco7451]

Great video review!, i enjoy your experience based reviews coupled with your ride videos from NY, as always, one thing though: i think you missed putting your performance score for the original Patton review, you say here it was 5/5 but i didn´t catch that on that video.

[@MathieuTechMoto]

5:52 why there is a bolt sticking out of the suspension hole ? 😁

[@GenZyannd]

@@MathieuTechMoto was also wondering what that was

[@lenapluhar3485]

Love your videos. I would love to buy some swag from your shop but you don’t ship to Australia. Can I order directly or will you change to international shipping?

[@soupnazi81]

Good review but I notice audio clipping when you're speaking during the ride.

[@OWGAC]

Yeah I tried stuffing the mic in my helmet since I was getting a lot of windnoise but I need to tune it lower.. will have to fix that next time!

[@MurfatlarAII0]

You’re videos are one of the best reviews on the net …. Thanks ! 🫡🎩👏💪🏼

[@MurfatlarAII0]

Hsiang, can you tell me please the name of your pads in the video and maybe a link where can be purchased ? Thanks in advance 🎩

[@OWGAC]

its the North pad noaio.com/en/product/north-pad they are just the right size and harness for me!

[@thatall1145]

Any news on Mr kingsong.( great review on the Patton s btw)

[@CaptainJacksIsland]

I want to know if the Patton S suffers from the same problem as the Sherman L: weight distribution and gyroscopic forces. The size and shape of the L, the pedal height, and motor weight, all lead to it being too easy to lean over at speed. At 20 mph, I have to steer it like I'm only doing 3 mph. There's no body leaning unless going at higher speeds. There are no gyroscopic forces keeping it upright that you have to fight against. If you even think about leaning, it falls over. And since the Lynx has wobble issues, I'm guessing it suffers from the same thing, and I wonder of the new tech in the Patton continues that. It boggles my mind that I haven't heard anyone address that. It's a safety issue since weight distribution and gyroscopic force creates stability.

[@ed_boogie]

I have the Sherman L and I have no idea what you’re talking about lol. If you have the kenda knobby tire it will quickly drop on its edge left and right. My Sherman S had the same tire and to mitigate this I’d drop my psi to 28 or below. I’m not sure if that is what you speak of, but I don’t have that issue you describe. I’ve ridden plenty of wheels and the L is the best.

[@WilliamPena-n2w]

Have the L and feels so nice! I dont really know what youre saying

[@ed_boogie]

@@CaptainJacksIslandmaybe you have a wonky unit. If so you can try recalibrating.

[@OWGAC]

Leaper kim wheel generally are much better tuned and balanced. But that is partly preferences if you are used to a certain weight distribution and ride feel other wheel will always feel "wrong"

[@RogueTravel]

Skill issue. 69.5mph gps on the GT Pro +, for reference. You need to improve your riding.

[@donj5532]

Thank u

[@EUCXR]

Another great video

[@OWGAC]

thank you!!!

[@itechhen]

The issue i take with subtle changes and again an S is it doesn't warrant another $3-4k investment just for softer lines and a bit better performance. It just goes to show customers the flaws the original has and yet they rushed it market anyway

[@RubiMelange]

Are you ever going to review the Falcon? 😅

[@OWGAC]

May be but I a super back logged right now!! will have to come after the xway and sherman L review

[@GenZyannd]

what is the location of those trail riding footage?

[@OWGAC]

Forest Park! I think I'll run the demo there

[@kingdavid1519]

What pads are those?

[@OWGAC]

North Pads! noaio.com/en/product/north-pad

[@pantherathai9947]

👀👀👀🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷👍🏽

[@GenZyannd]

how many pounds spring this demo unit has?

[@bepriceless]

Seems like you should be wearing bright colors, weaving through that heavy traffic, especially in winter. They can't see you.

[@terradon852]

At least he’s wearing an actual full face helmet now lmao… making progress one step at a time

[@-JohnSmith-]

Number one rule is ride like you're invisible

[@pacochawa2746]

Expecting them to see you is your 1st mistake and last...

[@scratchymaster]

Drivers can't see bicyclists anyway; drivers are trained to look for car shapes.

[@dantemarcos1410]

Stealth mode 😎

[@radboo4384]

makes sense in 20mph Wales 😁

[@WilliamPena-n2w]

SHERMAN L IS KING❤

[@OWGAC]

But it is waaaaaaay larger heavier and rides totally different. they are really on the opposite end of the euc spectrum

[@WilliamPena-n2w]

@OWGAC range is king

[@jaefrmbk2k]

🧢

[@bepriceless]

That screen looks like it came from the 80's.

[@gabinator1177]

I love it

[@MacGyverCanada]

Hah yeah from one of those '80s calculators that still works perfectly fine today

[@bepriceless]

@@MacGyverCanada I just watched MacGiver. I was thinking more like the first digital Casio watches, but the Texas Instruments calculator is even better.

[@philamonhemstreet8632]

It’s great I can change all the settings of the wheel without my phone, while wearing gloves. Way easier to see than an LCD in daylight

[@gabinator1177]

@@philamonhemstreet8632 Exactly.

[@MUKTARKINGLAZY]

wow good Moto c

[@brettyoung4564]

charge port cover is off lol

[@OWGAC]

I know! I didn't noticed until I got home that day and I was like @_@

[@voltangle]

Does it still cut out and/or beep on hard braking with a fully charged battery? If yes, the wheel is still garbage imo Also, please, I beg of you, PLEASE use motorcycle sizing (Patton - 12", Lynx - 14", Falcon - 10", Master Pro - 17", V13 - 16"), old bicycle sizes are literatelly useless with modern wheels

[@darkstar4494]

That one little flaw makes the whole wheel garbage?

[@OWGAC]

EUC braking all regen and with a full battery they all run similar risk. But if you are aware and know not to go nuts in that first 5 min from a full charge then this isn't really a problem.

[@voltangle]

@@OWGAC I've only seen Pattons and Abramses falling on braking. And by braking i mean just going fast and then doing a really hard stop. Patton will not survive it, or at least will cut out. Any other wheel does not have that issue, I bought an ET Max for myself, and it doesn't cut out if I brake, never

[@voltangle]

@@darkstar4494 Yes, it makes it unsafe.

[@darkstar4494]

@ every wheel has features that make it unsafe under certain conditions. Lack of suspension is unsafe. Inner tubes are unsafe. Lack of redundancy in hall sensors is unsafe. The point is that calling the whole thing garbage makes you sound like you’re 12 years old. No offense intended, take it or leave it.