How to Double your Electric Unicycle Range!!

Veteran Patton Long Range Test and how far can you go?
This week, I try to make it to Sprain Ridge for some off road action and back; a 60 miles trip on the Veteran Patton which I only gotten 25miles out of previously. Will I be able to stretch out the range to cover the distance or will it be the walk of shame for me?
Episode 129- Patton Long Range Test
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[@whatswheelygood]

Thanks for the video! You are the reason I ended up deciding to get an euc. It's been 18 months since then and i have taught 4 other people how to ride and my two v12s have accumulated 2500 miles between them. Thank you for the awesome content you make and for spreading the love of these wonderful wheels!

[@OWGAC]

Thank you & keep spreading the EUC love!!

[@KostiaBazrov]

so How to Double your Electric Unicycle Range!!?

[@microMobilidade]

Remembermto never charge your pack immediately after a long ride. Let the cells cool down for at least an hour. And yeah slow charge is way better than fast charge

[@heymelon]

Is it actually bad? Would love a source on fast charging harming the batteries bc I usually just hear people say it. Sure if you go crazy high AMPs I can see it but.

[@LS-jk3fk]

i usually charge 6.5 - 8.4 and at very most 9 here and there after waiting a bit for my v13.

[@legyroquoi]

Slow pace and feeling the smell of flowers is my kind of ride 😁. I'm sure you liked it too😂

[@astyn3117]

Ai-Rides Sticker on the front of this wheel added more miles to that Wheel LOL Bet Sam was happy to see that 😆

[@tonymejias8171]

I lived in New York before euc's. So, I'm riding my V12 HS in Puerto Rico 🇵🇷. Even with a back injury that couldn't walk far, with my V12 I go everywhere while exercising my back and legs.

[@patrickmckowen2999]

Good vid 👍 Marty would be proud of you. Chooch, not so much🤣

[@judechopper]

Your the best video maker about EUCs, you can think ride and talk! Love it!

[@santiagovasquez1404]

10 to 15 and sometimes touching 20 is all i ever want to do on a euc ,at my age slowing down is a luxury

[@bigglyguy8429]

Yeah, I love to go off road by truck, dirt bike or bicycle, but hard to find like-minded people who want to go slowly in order to enjoy the scenery etc. Speed is obviously fun but life-long injuries aren't (that's the ghost of my left knee talking, replaced by titanium and plastic). On my last 5 day trip with friends, on the first day one car broke an axle going too fast, on the last day one of the cars went off the road and down a ravine. We spent hours recovering the gear from the wrecked car, and then they still drove fast?

[@raspberrypimilitant2242]

Slow and steady skips the charge breaks more often 😊 I go fast when it's appropriate and I feel safe doing so but on the road I'm usually cruising slower and kind of dillydally type riding. I'm not very old but I'm at that threshold of injury=problems age. I hit 41mph on my v12 a few times at a abandoned airport strip. When I keep it around 20-25 mph as a top cruising speed I am getting the 60-70 mile range on the inmotion v12. I would like more range though

[@mikefranks4528]

Hsiang, it was good riding with you on this trip. Experiencing the range anxiety and seeing how you configured in-progress to stretch out those volts was interesting and educational. The suspense of you getting home was exhilarating. Great B-rolls btw.

[@donscott6431]

I want to say that your camera selection on the early,short, view in the woods REALLY showed the steepness !!!!!! Whatever camera you USED is the best I’ve ever seen on Utube showing angle 😮

[@Richplaceholder]

Ordered my patton a week ago, can't wait to have a suspension wheel.

[@KaizenOz]

Awesome range for the Patton (relative to its performance and pack size)

[@greenwave819]

it is all about riding slow when you want to go long!!

[@mig6220]

I remember watching ur first video. You've really grown as a vlogger. The polish is really evident in the newer videos. I'm looking forward to ur upcoming collabo video with the guy who got me on a wheel-Kuji Rolls.(Both of you guys in the same NY event? Too much of a coincidence..😂😂😂)

[@Timemachine69]

That’s easy, ride at a slow speed and leave early … I was able to travel over 30-miles on Inmotion v8s going about 10-mph; it took about 2 hours and 20 minutes; Ruskin,FL to Tampa, FL (Fowler/Nebraska).

[@oldretireddude]

Thank You for this video. I have a Patton coming in a couple of weeks and this is great information for me. Faster pace heading home...That used to be a problem when riding horses too.

[@sway2127]

Sprain Ridge! Great park. The parking lot is a good place to learn / practice in too

[@dmitrykizyakov9950]

Would be great to meet you and shake your hand whenever I come to ride in NYC! Thanks for all the awesome reviews and topics covered!

[@RokDAWG1]

I wasn’t certain if I wanted to grab one of these but your videos helped me decide that I need one in my life!

[@leeteemtb9587]

Your helmet from the front looks like super Mario's hat , you just need a moustache 😅

[@kazzmack9385]

man your camera footage is clean!! not sure what cam you use but its clear as day ... your editing is also top notch... thanks for covering this topic in depths... I had a lot of questions which you answered

[@delbomb3131]

Instead of "gas in the tank", i think "boost in the brick" would be a fun replacement for remaining go juice

[@CopperSteed]

I second "boost in the brick"

[@stanleyhyde8529]

Steeling that

[@charleskieser9740]

Hi, The Patton is my first EUC, today marks my first week of riding, and in my first 7 days I have been able to manage about 25 miles of riding. The Patton still has its original eWheels charge on it, and is at 75%. Until my last ride, tiltback was set to 15mph, but for my last ride I bumped it up to 25mph. I look forward to seeing more of your adventures on the Patton, and maybe some day after my riding skills develop, we can go ride together.

[@royalsd]

That range will go away soon. Because it’ll be impossible to have enough self control to go that slow for that long

[@charleskieser9740]

@@royalsd , I am already past 25mph tiltlback, still have not experienced 36mph tiltback, and the battery is going quicker.

[@royalsd]

@@charleskieser9740 that’s how it is, I did 20 miles and went down to 65% on my v12. Never got that range again cuz I was never able to go slow enough

[@LaveyZFG]

I get 50-60 miles of 35-40mph on the Sherm S , Babying it 20-30mph get 100Miles , and im 250 Pounds lol

[@cenciende9401]

what are those in real useful units?

[@stanleyhyde8529]

I've got a Patton on the way. I can't wait to see what kind of range I can get out of my first wheel.

[@OWGAC]

if you are just starting out, you'll probably get great range! since you won't be torquing and riding fast, at least you shouldn't at first.. =)

[@stanleyhyde8529]

@OWGAC I figure I just set the tilt back at 20 mph for a while. I just want to go riding

[@dailyrider2975]

On my EV-Bike have same issue, as power goes down you use more juice to go same or even slower speed. So bottom 3 bars of 6 bars is actually 1/4 tank, not half.

[@LaggerSVK]

One of the important factor is also pedal stiffness of the wheel. The stiffer the setting the more it consumes. But we are talking about %s in total range.

[@bluechipeucCanada]

👍as usual great video.. I dig the knee protection..(where u get them)) ✌🏽🇨🇦💂🏽BlueChipEUC

[@OWGAC]

asterisk knee braces, expensive but cheaper than knee surgeries!

[@hugga__tree6153]

I ride the begode exn high speed from the Bronx to Brooklyn and back and still have battery left. I can get around 40 miles total from a full charge. Going from bike lane (10-20mph) to high way (30-50mph). It can totally be exhausting and without suspension. Whoof. Luv your videos !

[@OWGAC]

3600wh gets more than double the range of 2200wh, battery capacity is weird like that.

[@kaze6920]

This is a great experiment and I'm impressed by the range, albeit with a lot of restrictions to fun riding. Interestingly made the exact same trip on the Sherman-S today (also forgot a sandwich and greatly regretted it) and was at a surprising 96v, I left from southern Brooklyn. The range is crazy on the Sherman-S!

[@ThePawel36]

So it consumed only 4.8V? Amazing.

[@kaze6920]

@@ThePawel36 Yeah. I really started my trip with about 100v, not 100.8.

[@OWGAC]

Sherman S is crazy efficient, I can see why Veteran was reluctant to go higher V for so long!

[@TroubleshootGamingMeds]

Nice one hsiang

[@SaiyanEuc]

Awesome video! I can't really ride off-road hard with a back pack maybe it's just my bag but it slaps me in the spine when I hit jumps or bonk off rocks and roots.

[@dnthmn117]

Look into EVOC backpacks, they're designed for mtb bikes and have built-in back protectors, too.

[@SaiyanEuc]

@@dnthmn117 thank you! I'll check them out

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Going slower doesn't always work to extend the range cuz you're using less power but you're also covering less distance. You do have a little bit of a cushion on cruising speed for max range.. You should data log for voltage and try going different speeds for 2 mi to see which speed gives you the furthest distance versus just the most time. Most of the time with my drones I just go for longest flight sometimes I will check what's giving me the most range cruising at what speed

[@PalaNickers]

Great Video! What where those knee pads bro?

[@tarstarkusz]

The ONLY way to double your range without spending money is to slow down and don't accelerate as hard. It takes 4 times the energy to go twice as fast, plus add wind resistance. Rolling resistance is pretty stable and doesn't massively increase with speed. But once you are above about 7mph, the rolling resistance is the lesser drain on your energy.

[@miltonmartins8217]

great video!!!

[@TheZombiewaffles]

I think the only way I'd be able to double the range on any pev is if I lost 100Ib to put me at 120 lol

[@jonislow]

I hear ya!

[@ihuliige6776]

By the way, on trails and other rougher terrain LESS tire pressure is actually MORE efficient, as a hard tyre will "bump" harder into every little rock and root, wasting energy.

[@updlate4756]

Ride and pray to save energy. Literally.... Put your hands together in front of you to maximize aero. Who's gonna be the first to make some pads with air pass throughs?

[@OliGerard]

Nice video and good lesson to teach to the beginners about range. How do you succeed to break the kickstand? I guess it’s the big fall we can see in the video.

[@OWGAC]

yea, the wheel went spinning down the hill and snapped the kick stand somewhere along the way.

[@judechopper]

Missing your great vids

[@KaiSosceles]

Excellent content. Loved all the details you're diving in to on battery optimization. Definitely answers questions I've had about riding style vs. battery that I haven't taken the time and effort out to figure out myse🙏 I'm also really loving the look of this video. Really great colors and the focus + shallow depth of field is so spot on, even when there's no eye to track. Is this mostly the A7C w/ the 14mm? I would be surprised to see that shallow a depth of field using the 14mm 1.8. O.o

[@OWGAC]

I recently upgraded to the ZV-E1! that updated color was a HUGE improvement from the A7C!

[@Tattedeuc]

Great video

[@judechopper]

Legend thankyou I like the Patton

[@patrickrobert9001]

Nice video! Slowing down and sitting can considerably increase range, yes! But what's the basis for saying that fast charging and low-battery mode will harm the battery? 15A charging on the Sherman-S is still way inside the Samsung 50E specs of 2.45A per cell/pack, and low-battery mode allows each cell to go down to 2.9V, something that's always been standard on KingSong wheels (they go down to 3.0V). Many say that but where is the actual data that supports these claims?

[@OWGAC]

I am no electrical engineer but I am all for erring on the side of caution, On the EUC forum fire thread, there had been no veteran wheel fire, maybe this is why.

[@cenciende9401]

That's something we've known about batteries in any sort of battery device for over a decade! A simple Google could answer that for you.

[@VECTOR_Coasters]

i would love to see a video of you riding the master pro at a maximum of 5mph to see how far you get (would take like a week straight of riding but man it would be funny)

[@KevinRedmondWA]

The moon

[@OWGAC]

That's what Marty's channel is for LOL

[@KevinRedmondWA]

@@OWGAC yup

[@Laenthal]

I did 104+ kilometers in winter at about -10C on one charge v11 (1500Wh). Obviously it was at a snail pace.

[@niekonesakyki]

you was probably just pushing it :D

[@ThePawel36]

Wow. I ride one as well but Didn't expect I could get 60 mile range out of it. I bet speed no more than 10mph, right?

[@Laenthal]

@@niekonesakyki actual riding but there was a lot of snow so i just stood as upright as possible in order to not drift it while making my way through pedestrians. i guess on average that was like 15-20kph

[@quentinmlc]

I was wondering if i could get 85km from the Patton riding slowly (25km/h). It looks like i can ! Can't wait to try ! I weight around 200lbs with my gear though :/

[@zogly9469]

I tend to hover around 20-25 usually, though road riding puts the pressure on to keep up with traffic. My longest rides on my v12 HT have ended around 38ish miles, but with less wind and a willingness to entirely drain the battery, I could probably make it to 40-45. What kneepads are you using in this video? They look more heavy-duty than my Leatts and match the Patton well!

[@ihuliige6776]

Looks like Asterisk Ultra Cell 4.0, around $700 knee braces

[@stumpyduby]

I get a little over 50miles per charge on my V12 HS. Everything I've seen shows the high-speed getting way better mileage for some reason (probably motor and software)

[@zogly9469]

@@ihuliige6776 Yep, that looks like it...Sheesh. It's cheaper than a knee injury, but that's still a hefty price tag. I'll probably stick with my Leatts for now. ;) Thanks friend.

[@qqnqqpart]

@@zogly9469 which Leatt's are you running if I may ask,, since the Leatt braces are only marginally cheaper, I was considering the Leatt X-frames myself. Just putting the following out there for folks who are unaware of the differences; knee braces and guards are different in that the braces prevent against rotative injuries and vertical impact (like stomping your foot into the ground real hard) as well; I'll be getting them soon, have been holding off cuz it is highly recommended that one go in person to test the fit out, as different makes and models fit differently, and if the fit is no good you are left with a very expensive knee guard!

[@zogly9469]

​@@qqnqqpartThanks for the clarification. I have the dual axis knee and shin guards, which were only $90-$100; significantly cheaper than the braces. Off of what you have said I would like to get braces in the future, but can't really do that right now financially.

[@mattca353]

If not doing trails, when riding 20kmh, I can feel my sanity slowly flow out of my ears.

[@OWGAC]

LOL, it is a test of your patience..

[@cenciende9401]

Ha, try walking lol, that's why I want an EUC!

[@mattca353]

@@cenciende9401 that thing called walking sucks. It's slow, fatiguing and little to no acceptation nor torque 😂

[@greenwave819]

I got 100miles on my EX.N 2700wh and still had around 20% to spare

[@tomnoyb8301]

Need at least 160miles range for long-distance trips. US EV tax-rebate kicks in at 7.2Whr battery, but manufacturer must obtain the tax-break certification for its customers. Will be first on the list when Sherman produces such a wheel. ps. beef-up suspension to 320lbs, while you're at it. Tubeless standard. Seat along lines of 'Mathieu Tech Moto.' Maybe some means to carry charger under seat? Dual, bidirectional USB-c ports for trickle-charging (e.g. Apple has 150W USB-c charger). Thx.

[@raspberrypimilitant2242]

I bin out of commission for the last 5 weeks from surgery. Before surgery I was riding my inmotion v12hs as much as I could 😢. That said I'm 130lbs and I did a 60 mile trip at a average speed of 20 with a spike to 31 a couple times and it was still at 30percent battery I thought that was pretty dam good 👍. I think speed and the difference between rapid acceleration as opposed to gradually increasing speeds while keeping maximums low is the only eco way to ride if you need the range. I have got 35miles on a charge while reaching top speeds most of the time and a lot of fast off the line spanking a old super73 bro who works at the local milk n things and was bragging to much. I'm so undecided about my second wheel choices. Maybe a v11 or go different and get a begode ex.n if I can find one used

[@Bikepacking]

What camera did you use while riding very clear

[@christopherferguson6102]

How much for one of them

[@UniFanatix]

What type of camera you are using for creating your content? Live how clear and 360 it's

[@Baronic]

Question: looking to get my first euc and i think its going to be the v8f, which is kinda old in 2023. Still ok? Also i intend to lock my euc at the train stations in NJ vs carrying it to me into nyc. I’m thinking a strong bike lock through the handle, through the trolley handle too. Thoughts?

[@OWGAC]

I wouldn't leave anything locked up in public, especially on a consistent basis. as to the v8f, its still a great wheel, light and maneuverable, buuut you may out grow it quickly.

[@pacochawa2746]

I equate the range with them amount of force that would happen when the battery explodes.

[@CFlenox]

Damn i really need those knee pads what's the name of those? 9:04

[@TheAnimeist]

12:41 Bye wheel. Yeah, next time eat a sammich before you head out, and put two in your back pack.

[@Onetazien]

I'm 135-140 lbs and somehow my v12 ht shows a 100 mile range at full charge on the lcd display. I average 12-26 mph

[@lukelaming3445]

I’m 6’2 and around 300lbs, I think I could learn to ride one but am I to heavy for the wheel? I’m not worried about range but just more wondering if I’ll break it.

[@DUEL.FATALIS]

Surprised no one seemed to catch this but I noticed you’re measuring the battery capacity in volts, which isn’t exactly right. It should instead be measured in W/h. A higher voltage battery will be able to deliver more power to the motor, enabling you to either go faster or carry more weight (by producing more horsepower or torque), but it won’t increase the range. A higher wattage battery (KWH) won’t allow the motor to go any faster or produce more torque, but it will increase the range. It seems that your UEC has a 2220W/h battery. With the estimated 75 miles range at 25mph you’d be using about 30W per mile. You can increase the voltage, which will allow you to use more power at once, but going higher speeds will drain the battery much faster. You can increase the wattage, but you have to increase the physical size of the battery, increasing weight. Hopefully battery technology gets us to the point where range anxiety isn’t really a common thing lol.

[@steveselick887]

I noticed you did the path along the Hudson River. I was going to do that on my V11 last November but there was a big nasty sign at the entrance by the GWB saying absolutely no motorized vehicles of any kind on the path so I turned around and went down Broadway instead. Did you get any nasty looks? Did you see other motorized vehicles there?

[@OWGAC]

nope, lots of ppl ride that path and I never heard any problems.

[@Papanerf17]

I'm out of fl did you already sell your v14

[@steveselick887]

@@Papanerf17 Yes sold it.

[@QSpeedRacer]

Some the euc give the speed they tested the range at.. i think if u cruise like 12mph u can get the max range. At like 16mph average it looks like my v10f isnt going to get the max range. That could also be the music and data bluetooth. And hills. And my weight

[@erichung8087]

Hav u tried the Begode mten5 or Begode A2? Hit new wheel?!

[@Darryl.Harris]

What music service do you use?

[@jansvoboda9778]

20Mph is sweet spot by my tests.

[@BigORider]

Kickstand broke?

[@OWGAC]

right after that shot where it roll down hill..

[@divingfalconfpv4602]

Further than i can ride. My feet hurt.. my back haha.. my chins

[@KevinRedmondWA]

Didn’t watch the video and already thought “I bet he just goes slower”

[@VECTOR_Coasters]

not just going slower but yeah

[@Roskellan]

I'm getting tremendous range out of my Begode Master - I must be a complete pussy 🙂. I get 26miles out of my S18, did 26 mph at one point 🙂 Did 30 miles on the master today, absolutely lovely on a really pretty route mostly single track road with over topping trees, estuaries and the sea. On "The Lizard", Cornwall, in the UK. Sweet spot for me these days is low to mid 20's.

[@fiduanhaider]

What power pads are those

[@timofeishe]

Sherman-S pads supplied by the Ewheels

[@eBoard3R]

⚡👀⚡

[@mikaelhenhammar]

There is a fact that is a bit uncomfortable to talk about an that is weight .... I once lost 25 kg (55 pounds ) and my old Tesla turned in to a new wheel .☺ faster acceleration and longer range .

[@Ingothnia]

Someday removable batteries will end this issue.

[@OWGAC]

I had wanted this, but additional layers of casing would add both to size and weight, prob why we haven't seen them yet.

[@pacochawa2746]

Am I the only person that the cops thought I was wearing a keflar bullet proof vest instead of a motorcycle vest and start tripping and going for their guns? Eventhought even if I did have that vest its not a crime???

[@charleskieser9740]

I loved this video so much I watched it 10 times, which leads me to ask, How hard is it to get a replacement kick stand for the Patton?, I have been having great fun on my Veteran Patton. Today marks the one week point of me being a EUC rider. Learning to ride an EUC for the first time on Leperkim Patton is a doable thing. I am 55 years old and I have had bunch of fun the very first week as I have learned to ride it. This little video chronicles my first week of EUC riding. studio.kzbin.info_FfEQCRYwWg

[@stanleyhyde8529]

I would think you could contact the distributor you got it from to get one. The outer components are pretty modular. It seems to me they wanted them to be easy to swap out when damaged so things like that should be easy enough to get.

[@OWGAC]

very easy to do, just six hex screws and you can swap in a new one.

[@EboyzLondon]

10th time iv watched this lol.

[@princequeen.]

Explore beach,bring with cars,

[@sinanerem]

😂😂😂

[@visiop1]

‌John 3:16 Modern English Version (MEV) ‌ ‌16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. ‌ ‌John 14:6New International Version (NIV) ‌ ‌6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. Acts 16:31 New International Version (NIV) 31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved-you and your household.” ‌ John 3:36 New international version 36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life,(A) but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them. ‌John 20:28King James Version (KJV) 28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Acts 4:12 New International Version (NIV) 12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” 1 John 2:22King James Version (KJV) 22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 2 John 7 New International Version (NIV) 7 I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.

[@themasterofbbq1234]

The easiest way is by losing weight lol

[@pacochawa2746]

Riding 10 mph is like a chicken with only 1 leg crossing in front of a pack of hungry wolves and calling them all pussies! I for one dont want that target on my back.

[@PacoOtis]

Too much irrelevant babble and ten times longer than it needed to be! Best of luck!

[@InsanitiesBrother]

ride slower

[@busybody1474]

Hopefully 2024 is the year they start making these EUCs much lighter, speed and torque is only fun if the wheel is light and nimble.. my opinion 😅

[@tomrulz444]

Haven't been to forest Hills park. Would you say that it had good trails for EUC? I have a V12 HT. Thanks and your content is so top tier!

[@OWGAC]

yes forest park is great, not as challenging but there is a few tough spots.